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hello and welcome you're listening to the scene at UK podcast this episode 409 for friday the 31st of October 2014 it's Halloween but have no fear we've got all the expressed technology news including LG rising from the grave drones blurring the line between good and evil and what away adopting a new identity like a scooby-doo villain with a sheet on their head I'm rich showing homing in our high-tech London studio this week is spooky luke westaway actually my ghost name is Luke Weston scary also here is Andrew gargoyle ah who's Gary to Riley verifying as always we are filming the podcast so if you really need a fright then that you can see us in this and all our videos on on CETA on cnet or youtube com / like a slasher ruining it but for now let's start with the news not so scary new to start off with at last if your LG because it's got some really good news on the whole profits and sales thing which is what it does all right so yeah it's a smartphone and LCD TV sales are way up which is really cool I'm see for LG 16.8 million devices sold now that's across the it's l series phones and of course the flagship g3 which saw surprising it's really really good found we going with school people seem to like it a lot of a networks have it so good to see that that's helping LG get to its profits and which is a 450 million dollars yeah and record sales for phones as well record sales for five years I think it is yeah also there's been some interesting news on the TV phone right league yes that's right LG sort of hinted that it's next year it's going to start producing TVs with quantum dots on turns like the latest TV buzz word and you want for that you heard it here first um well rich just off the top of my head quantum dots are a semiconductor nanocrystals technology yeah you really pushed me for more information I'd say that it's a tiny they're like tiny pieces of matter with unique properties you're a tiny piece of matter with unique properties yes I am and what do they do they these tiny pieces of matter with unique properties include the ability to emit light at very specific wavelengths sort of like microscopic pieces of glitter that glow green red or blue depending on their size I am cribbing here from cnet's extremely helpful what are quantum dots and how could they help your next TV article right so if you wanna know more about quantum dots and how they will o be cheaper TVs in the long run in the future then yes that article is check it out check it out good just good news any other horror stories for a sandy horror stories well there is some good and bad news in fact and I said coming from the whole world of drones start with some good news so there we have an ambulance drone now that thing now this the idea behind this is that a drone can travel up to 60 miles an hour obviously in a straight line to somebody who calls in a response about a heart attack and the ambulance drone will be able to quickly deliver defibrillators and will also be able to have a live stream so that the doctors at the other end can tell like members of the public how to help this victim because I'm see the drone unless it's particularly powerful can't carry an actual medic to my circle yeah like a lighter air ambulance it is a light air and be there could call it dr. own yeah oh yes yeah yeah yeah that works better written down but okay I know this is an audio thing but there you go um there was pretty exciting right that's very exciting very good news although I'm sort of picturing I don't how reliable Issa do we want how many drones do we want in the air with with electrical different Bellator's what if they just drop it well just like you could just be walking along and what's that shadow and then room defibrillator well that's the wrong person you're walking along you're feeling a little bit little bit little bit poorly maybe Smith the drones coming I think the idea isn't that the driving itself actually delivers the electric shock just drops candy from 30th arrive although the most cities there are lots of public defibrillator points Oh ask you some buddy does collapse have a heart site because with heart attacks it's all about of how quickly they can get this attention and I think even every minute dramatically increases the chance of survival of that man obviously in cities particularly congested ones London Tokyo for example it's very difficult for ambulances to cut through the traffic I don't get arrived on the scene where as this obviously flying in a straight line and Matt high-speed can get there far far quicker than a car could that's good sex on but joins not always good i mean we had a bit of a near miss with a drone this recently yeah so there was a pilot flying in landing in an airport near london actually who claims that a quadrocopter drone was flying directly at the plane and had a bit of a near miss and it's when it got quite close to the engine so that's yi you know whether it's whether that's just a perp we don't know who did this they actually haven't found out so we're not sure whether that maybe someone whose airplane enthusiasts when I feel in the planes and was just a bit steeper whoever it was a kid messing around and didn't really realize the risks but whatever the reason this is a really really bad thing to do dangerous stuff absolutely but also in a slightly lighter note as well we also saw a fantastic video shot with that dragon Sweden yeah ok go's a new video and I won't let you down mmm what it's called yeah is yeah it's absolutely fantastic and I haven't seen this before you put this infant for the podcast and it's it's amazing why I have not been watching this time and time again it's all filmed on drone until follows them on ground level as well as the the ghazal coming along they're also on these electric unicycles Dean was amazingly choreographed they seem exams and then the drone takes off in the air and looks down on a what turns out to be ended up hundreds of people opening and closing colored umbrellas in this amazing choreograph sequence to make it almost look like an like an LCD display you know if I can when yep when words would panic absolutely so it's looking at at the moment you can check it out the full length video on now on seeing it as well it's what's amazing about this is that it starts off me know okay go they're known for their intricate well caught you know integrally car yet one take videos music videos and this starts off with in there riding the honda uni cub which is a little sore like self bouncing unicycle thing we can see there and so it starts off and you think it's just a Steadicam following them around you think that the gimmick of the video is going to be that they're they're kind of doing this choreographed dance on the unicycle and then suddenly the camera just shoots up in the air and it's a it's fantastic sripad it turns it was a custom created drone filmed films whole thing's too catchy song too yeah i'll be great to see you know drones filming movies as tough as well yeah well they're use loads I mean it's brilliant and BBC users users load as well for this natural history that's Jake got to look out for planes though I mean yes got yes you do hmm I mean you've got some strong feelings on this so you yeah I mean I says here yeah hang on I'm just checking the script yes strong feelings to follow um yeah well I wonder if we don't need licenses for drones it right I hate to be the sort of light that the fuddy-duddy the licensing Laura over there the killjoy to be licensing Luke anyway it doesn't matter but um licensing law is better nice is it but the point is you know sorry to be a nag but maybe not everyone should be allowed to drive because sure they're great first sort of movies and stuff but it's not like it's pretty dangerous nearly hit a plane I could have been terrible should everyone be allowed to have her join lyst sort of flying around so a lot of people listening will be like rights we go do we have to do we have the right to fly whatever we like we've got to start thinking about who owns the rights to the air above our heads just because we can just because we could we should have stopped to ask ourselves with exactly should with high-powered drones comes high-powered responsibility absolutely I'm sure I mean it seems been loads new Jones toys every weeks I'm sure we'll be hearing some more very soon I do have one thing yet to say gone we're talking about drones flying into aircraft and airports but you could just as easily fling a frisbee at it I don't think that's true this the aerobie the red one is 30,000 feet appear as if we're talking like flying in when it's coming in to land website there's like 50 feet yeah yeah it's just funny but you have to get quite close to an airport if you have not if you got a Nairobi those things right what the hell then they go for a bit I don't believe that there I believe that the aerobie could be the best frisbee around and I believe there are strong people you can throw it a long way we can they throw it the length of the runway other other freebies are available i point that out um so yes be filia or what we license their Obie's license there is a good thing i like about Arabia is that the company that makes them make sue products the arrow b and the Aeropress coffee machines bloom what's really yeah I so you guys do my Aeropress that I love he also does the mmm the frisbee the aeropress coffee machine is really aerodynamic sorry can you get it in the play yeah you play I really use down you could just you know if you get angry anyway speaking of things like looking up in the air and saying is it a bird is it a drone no it's it's it's a superhero and that's what other thing that's happened this week wow we're not first thing with that was amazing i know off the top and everything yeah okay i don't get it because i don't have any idea basically about anything i'm about to say but mrs. long words has been has given fans a first look that's Black Panther all plus we have dates for sequels to Captain America Thor Avengers and guardians of galaxies more silly heroes all of those are films they are films faced on come yes sir Marvel has basically announced the next like a million films they can be putting out so we're talking about three films a year for the next four years guardians galaxy sequels were talking about Captain Marvel we're talking about Doctor Strange and civil war which is quite exciting that's a big comics event a few years ago where everybody had to change size do you think about Civil War was it about it wasn't really like good versus evil goodies and baddies and superior's and supervillains it's not superior is having to take sides but kind of moral question this idea it's what licensing things yes like doing licensing well I would be siding I believe with iron man who apparently is who is the one that the government shill that's right who thinks that's me licensing or licensing law hey thanks who thinks that superhero should have to register no identities no iron man yeah hmm I know he's one with the metal suit yes you actually iron as the name would suggest because that's like the worst metal to pick two to crack like that from heavy yeah it's so affordable yeah it'll rust and all the possible Caesar he'll be you can just use a big magnet as well even in the early days I think it might have been but nowadays it's nanotechnology and you actually it for a while II actually add the suit stored inside him as nanotechnology particles store insider stored inside him he was ugly when it erupted out yeah it was pretty much it was the end of it not on I mean this is quite good which thing quite a range of range of he returned yes that's right um it's good there are sort of more diverse superhero so this should bring in the sort of first black and female character hello yeah movies yeah headlining man thor and captain mob and kept long yeah I mean lots of these films aren't out for ages so I'm not sure in 2019 that kind of thing I'm not sure sort of how much we should be exactly praising Disney in 2016 or something is doing it's like it's not the most progressive idea in the world like basically this should have happened already just around a long time ago it's a superhero movies especially like the Avengers could definitely stand to be more sort of inclusive sorvall super films could be yeah but as well as good good Stefano graduation okay well I'm gonna have I'm gonna have superior fatigued by 2018 2019 but I already have you guys are being very same already and I've never heard of any of these ones they're just scraping a bottle of bottom of the barrel they haven't they haven't scraped the bottom of the barrel until they do the eel who was a supervillain who I think used to fight daredevil and his super villain power was he would grease up his body so that when the police grabbed him he would slide out of their grip and run away that's like she's bridge am also fished it does that am an eel hahahaha I'm stilt man I don't not done stilt man well we'll wait until you get to the quiz because the quiz is going to have more on this kind of silly see well on this quiz now that's great peaking of things that are a bit silly what else is speaking of small things that it's maybe technology that said yeah oping segways just falling apart the next or so how would you feel about a small phone yeah that connects to your big phone I won't say like phones so yes maybe I got another phone to my phone so this if I need to call my phone Taiwanese company why me yeah why me I think that I think as wireless me is what it our getting something with is that is that basically as a meanie phone if you're watching the video version you can sit on screen now looks a bit like like a little pocket calculator it does you actually I that is that it's basically just the phone better you can send and receive calls on this the idea being that phones some phones like the note for the Lumia 1520 when they're like six inches in the verb there's two big and cumbersome to get out your pocket but you can just have like in this little little tiny phone in like your shirt pocket for example and you can just if that rings you can quickly get that on hand yeah answer your call I have it in you in your trouser pocket because that takes ages to get from there there yeah get a getting shirt or get them sake bow bow yeah or i can see maybe if you've got your your phones and a docked on charge it without a room that sort of thing and but you want to be able to have a little thing to carry around if you take your calls yeah i can kind of see the idea i can see it being too efficient because when you call someone on the phone you don't expect them to answer straight away and often if they do yeah it's quite alarming if your saw like ring ring or normally while it's ringing you're kind of looking around thinking about what you're going to say in about 20 seconds time and if they're like ring hello ah you must have a why me so what do our readers think about this I mean this is something I've imagined divided opinion it has divided opinions Oh time o day in the comments says call me old-fashioned but a SmartWatch still seems like the more suitable solution to more or less the same problem is something that this must be so crazy that the SmartWatch seems old-fashioned yeah good old-fashioned smart what should be they don't make them like they used to Jim 1348 says I also am an avid horseback rider I usually listen to something on my Nexus 4 while I'm on the trail yeah I keep my phone in a jacket pocket or the chest pocket of a vest I usually wear the pockets are big enough to hold the nexus 4 in the ballistic case but if I move up to a larger smartphone in the future I might be inclined to keep my smartphone in a different pocket and possibly use the tort case which is this is the Y me feel is that right yeah in that pocket to hear the audio there you go good at yo the horseback riding crumpled says create named crumpled says this is absurd / engineering in my design opinion also if you upgrade one you have to upgrade both our world is becoming a consumerist fever dream and moving swiftly on from that frightening comments cloud matt says law it's a little silly but with all these new phablet phones it kind of makes sense kinda makes sense if you've got a tablet where it's also when maybe like what some of like the eight and nine inch tablets where they also are your phone and then you know maybe you wouldn't need to buy a small phone and a tablet you could just have the tablet been stead of looking ridiculous holding a big tablet to your face you even have this and that would be your only device you wouldn't need the phone part so I can succumb see that it sounds a bit daft but it has actually it's on Kickstarter and it's reached sixty seven thousand dollars of its 60,000 goal with 22 days to go so that's why they be funded so it's gonna be a real thing it's gonna be to know what it really needs though joking that we really put over the top little curly cord so yeah some zactly pocket so yeah right hello on your little curly cool hello and you can spin around and get humorously tangled up in it and then the dog can run around around your legs with it that's all oh but what about like a cord like you have a new Hoover where you still stretch it out and then you can Tony's press a button it goes I'm here it's the best bit Rach you in the gentleman zone when it when it's exciting quickly be careful with that and very quickly a last story this is a nostalgic 1 this is 1 for an old-fashioned speaking of old-fashioned stuff this 1414 classic gamers well over next news BCBS yes sir I keep ruining all these segues just like a surreal Segway riders mmm there we go we'll eventually ruin a Segway ruin all the time due to normal wear and classic game classic game yes Star War Khattak Star Wars games to be specific and was loving the which ones were they expecting a fighter yes those games you can now play on Good Old Games that's gog.com as a wave teamed with disney interactive and there are some lucasarts games on there that you can play on your window right so you can see this on the screen now if you watching on the video that takes me back that does see the little shield things and the flying around you basically fly towards a Star Destroyer for half an hour and then you overshoot it you have to turn around and fly towards it again for half an hour it takes me right back that azz I don't like every flight simulator ever fly in real time over France and then crash by accident overshoot the thing you a a mile to land I ways to play that my and my brother used to play he was the pilot he did the flying around the shitty needed the fun stuff and I had to like manage the shields and oh I was the r2 unit that's actually like pressing the profession a number when he spoke to you did you I did at the crucial moment did he did he disabled you see like I don't turn off the shields and they'll be like Rick rich red riches brother you've turned off your targeting unit if you like shut up rich I'm feeling the force and I'm doing it I'm going for it flowing through me actually also on there is secret Monkey Island Indiana Jones the fate of Atlantis and Star Wars much the older public what do you guys think well we haven't said it's how much it costs which is six pounds 19 per game which is I think vastly too much money for these L games actually most of the games on gog.com and for really all games are super expensive I agree it's also expensive just us would take us I mean should Beatles records be be free should Hemingway novels be free yesterday old doesn't mean it will be awesome if they were i should be free they shouldn't be a statute of limitations on on on some of these things of when you can stop charging because people have bought and paid for whatever fact they're so long that now they kind of they've done their job of making value they should then become like public property I think I don't matter I don't mind paying I just think that this is too expensive so I was having a look through there's beyond good and evil which is one of my favorite games ever is fantastic and you can get that for six pounds 20 which is not that far off what I saw paid for it the first time around I think I got in the pre-owned bid at game station or something when that was still a thing well like three pound six pounds and 20 shillings yeah yeah yeah exactly with enough left for a halfpenny of toffee and and something for the cobbler um and like three pounds 74 roller coaster tycoon that's roller coaster tycoon that's that's an old old game fair another old old old k it's a few quid for theme hospital as well I member i think maybe in Morrison's you could get like a pack of them by four or five of the theme games and they were only about three or four quid yeah fair enough but then again you can't put a price on memories right well I can and it's slightly over three pound seven auto Anderson in the comment says great now Disney needs to spend a fraction of their billion-dollar Empire to port these two android we need quality games like this and not clash of Clan clones designed to microtransaction molest me so yes that's a good no more contact lens I suppose yet you only paid once roller coaster tycoon then you get the whole thing no microtransactions to pay for extra bits of roller coaster stream I just like the brakes well hospital came to android it was very easy particularly I did it to absolutely ruin all the fun with oh you want to bind more space you can either pay 299 now or wait for like three weeks just like the real like building system yeah absolutely well it tell us what you think were you a big fan of an Indiana Jones Atlantis or tie fighter or x-wing back in the day which classic games would you like to see brought back to life and would you pay for them or do you think they should be free these days anyway that's enough for that why don't we move on to the big picture yes so it's not every day a new smartphone brand comes along but there's something familiar about the first phone from new brand honor it looks a lot like the Huawei honor 6 which is fair enough because it's the same phone as honor is a new brand from huawei itself which is increasingly popular chinese manufacturer but why has the chinese manufacturer decided to disguise itself behind a new name especially when it's already spent so much time and money establishing the huawei name lately could it be why we wants to play down the negative connotations connecting its name with the Chinese government and concerns over privacy and surveillance or could it be as one expert we spoke to things because while we is worried about our perceptions of cheap Chinese products or maybe they're just trolling us by spelling on or wrong it's got to you in it guys anyway so and that you've actually spent some time with the honor 6 what do you think about it I have already spent time with Ghana sakes and in fact here it is oh my there right here this isn't go cry or listen to me hold it if you're only listening yeah I I have got it and I think it's um it's really good actually because it in the price ok yeah so this thing has this the spec should expect to find on like a high-end phone Full HD screen octa-core processor it looks ok it's got cats 6lt es su fast 13-megapixel kill 2 megapixel camera but this you can pick up sim free on Amazon UK for 250 pounds and there's very little else that you can get that even comes close to that at that price ok and what a realist thing like we had rethinking about this well star brown and 3 says hmm this phone has a lot of promise on paper the specs and price are insane great design too I think there should be an honorable contender in the smartphone world that's worth taking a look at nice early what you've done this time I'm yes loreen depo PA so if I've mispronounced that says a brand that's not afraid to do things differently but we will start by doing the same as everybody else because we need another cheap iPhone knock off as so you can see the pictures on screen right now and it little especially like from the side see sort of as soon as I held it there is an iphone alike I'm dealing with this black glass front and back hmm it's it's gone it's got some of the iphone stuff going on it does feel a bit cheap though I thought because it's it sort of enlightened plasticky yeah it is cheap i should say yeah and once and he's so tell us quickly about cat6 so cat6 is basically it's a different wavelength of using of getting onto 4G LTE really i mean i won't go into a technical side of that and we do we have it here can we enjoy it in this country yes and no it's kind of being steadily worked on roll that x ee i believe but it's a combination of using different frequencies as i understand it so it's kind of it's a bit of it right now a bit of a gray area know if you're on 3 or giffgaff or something one of the cheaper networks on you're hoping to get a phone and finds that you can get up to 300 megabytes per second which is what cats 6lt offers no that isn't the case and phones like iphone 6 don't have cat6 radios they have cat for yeah i mean there is is there a reason to buy this phone for the cat 6 meters ways wellness right now you wouldn't buy this phone in England fill the cat 6 LTE but it is at least kind of future proofing yourself if you aren't gonna buy one phone to the next two or three years and by that time yes your one Kasich's phone i think i think probably the phone would be pretty out of date by the time Kasich's comes a locker but a good cuz you happy I aegis but you know it's like 4g is 4g s 4g is great it's really fast it's one better than treaty yeah you know like I've been on 4g for it from since like the stuff the year i think it's great i love it i could never go back to 3g so you know so we're pretty impressively honestly other they might guess I'm pretty brush with the phone itself yep I think it's I think it's a good idea it's it's it's the branding that's weird the corner the whole the law nation alright was a bit hard yeah well tell us what you think about honor and huawei and yeah let us know do you think it's an iphone rip off or do you think it's 250 quid it's it's about solid gold bargain anyway well that's enough of that let's move on to this week's quiz yes so it's Halloween edition of the quiz the leaderboard count stands at jason is in the lead with five Andy and Luke are both tying with force this exciting one of you might be able to pull ahead sent in terms of buzzers Luke sounds like this terrifying she late lately chilling stuff and speaking of buzzes Andy sounds like this Oh will it be a chainsaw massacre for Andy okay so it's actually a halloween-themed but going back to what we talked about at the superheroes and supervillains and I want you to tell me how these superheroes or supervillains got their powers okay question number one the original flash was a college kid who got super speed from an experiment that went wrong there's no smoke without fire but why did the experiment go wrong Andy how did he throw me go wrong Sam's gonna say that I know nothing about any superheroes so I'm not gonna win this quiz so let's just stop some fun I think yep I was a question the original flash for the college kid he got super speed from the experiment gone wrong I did his frame ago rod there's no smoke without fire but how did the experiment go wrong there was a fire in the testing chamber no I'm afraid that's not the correct answer Luke you'll never crack this 10 ft ceilings chillin um I feel like I should probably know this cuz I by feeling of a person I've gone for fairly obscure ones I'm gonna say that something fell into the magimix set on fire like someone put a spoon in the micro thats that's not the correct answer what happened was the original flash he stopped for a cigarette break what and knocked the experiment over he studied got three thirty he stopped for a smoke and he knocked his experiment over and the next thing you know he had superpowers there so no one got that one correct but they go well I mean there's the moral of the story no smoking kids don't smoke especially in a lab environment why did they pick him to be the flash exactly he was a terrible flash question number two ultra boy has a whale of a time electro boy he has a whale of a time with powers similar to Superman but how did he get his powers and by the way his name is Jonah he's a space character and for Jonah Luke I think universe now did he find them inside a space whale he did behind the milk amazing who asserts play even Superman remarked on the coincidence well your name is Jonah and you were swallowed by space well so there you can Superman suit man's not like the sharpest knife in the drawer there is he so when one of his powers math is stating the obvious yes so you can lead one point there so I last last question this is this could be the one that tied up for a local my band he can come back question 3 the Whizzer great gain super speed after a brush with death are these real but what animal and what what animal bit him and what happened after that to give him super speed Andy I think it was yeah um was a fast animal an animal that's known for go fast not especially as dc-based I think a scorpion that's that's a long the wrong the right lines but now I'm afraid that's not the correct answer that's that's not too bad Luke you another crack at this one what's his name the wizard the Whizzer whether cryptic clues in the in the question I've forgotten not he was pretty was bitten by an animal ok just for just buzzing in there's a formality um was it the humble and swallow it was it was not that would have known for fighting well i'm young smearing their powers to yeah it's what i said quick know what actually happened was he was bitten by a cobra and his father that that wasn't what given the powers I mean I'm you don't guess I was just because you get bitten by a cobra unfortunately don't us but what happened was his dad same time to make some calls yeah thinking quickly his his dad then injected him with mongoose blood but I shall see mongooses and cobras they may forget sure and that added up to the pass their blood doesn't fight each other that is quick thinking but it is but it's but ridiculous thinking I mean why didn't he suck the poison out that's what you're supposed to do in a quick thinking poisons to H no idea no idea but look you at one point so you win so that yeah it is salt well that's good that's a solid victory I know I say swales Luke and Jason are both on five points so it'll be awhile before Jason comes back in podcast I'm going to address quest because it plays to deliver of my strength was there a tiebreaker question or even if I was a tiger / question it was about the toughest superhero in the Marvel Universe who is of course Squirrel Girl that way as we all know squirrel girl squirrel girl see I get point so yeah sure a nice try but man rich has already changed the scores in the running audio which we can all edit incidentally so there you go that was this week's quiz come back next week who's gonna go black I don't know all about my new black yeah sure why not not gonna do that let's go on to this week's feedback Andy good wind on email says hi chaps keep up the good work I really enjoy listening to the podcast exam dating sandy kind I just wanted to share an odd story so I may potentially help other tech fans okay um this week I was flying out of a small private UK airport terminal for work fancy hmm and my hand luggage was randomly checked no bother I thought happens all the time but when my ipad mini and magnetic cover was swapped yeah it returned a strong hit for a prohibited chemical gasp I was shocked to say the least and had no idea why until the security guard asked if I'd done anything to it recently and I remembered cleaning the cover with antibacterial spray oh she said that will explain it after multiple retesting and filling out the form i was told never to attempt to fly with the contaminated ipad cover again and warned that at a busy major terminal it could have been confiscated and the police could have been called chatting to a colleague it turns out they have also seen a laptop being confiscated after someone had given it a once-over with an antibacterial cleaning wipe moral of the story be careful how you spruce up your tech if you plan on taking it abroad or you can end up losing your gadgets or even missing your flight I'll be sticking with good old soapy water from now I'm never washing again just in case I get swapped down and yet refused to use the flight well let's walk down is a sort of wash hmm anyway don't i do i'm going to just get a wet wipe your nose it over the danger zones or something to bear in mind if your if your fly yes thank you Andy that was a good and frightening tech story because of those antibacterial things you get them everywhere you'll probably buy them in airports all right what else we got um what do you have Monsieur Adi saying this week avnish arani says what are the 10 top budget smartphones out there which have the same sound capabilities as bows or sennheiser so I'm not really sure what's going on with this question maybe avnish means top 10 budget headphones which have the same sound capabilities bows as bosal sennheiser well I I thought maybe the point of the question was wanting a smartphone that has like speaker quality for playing music allowed that will rival like a set of bose or sennheiser speakers in which case none of them because their phones not speakers but the closest you'll get would be the HTC One m8 because their front facing speakers out that's quite powerful actually okay um he's talking about head fairies pricing though then both bows and sennheiser do do some quite good budget headphones around yeah 34 a big mark with you actually really good my sennheiser pretty good yeah you can also google CNET's best budget headphones and we have best cheap headphones of 2014 we have best earbuds in ear headphones of 2014 it's all going on they have all the cheap stuff you can't want to written know about Nathan King says how on earth do one plus one offer the specs they do for two hundred and ninety-nine dollars sweatshops oh that's not check out those that's probably libelous up um yeah we don't know well I cost components first yeah I mean it's I don't think it's that surprising when you look at so we were talking about the Huawei honor we've got like the Moto G it's it doesn't it seems it doesn't really cost that much to build and really cheap smartphone and even be very thin profit margins as well yeah so they'll be hoping to sell very familiar mean tech always gets much cheaper which is why it's amazing the apple store charges as much for the iphone and we still do I guess more expensive they're sore margin is unbelievable anyway um Andrew temple he says which set of fanboys has the biggest set of trolls we be asking for trouble if we answer this we would either all as bad as it is each other so as good at lovelyz as they're all as wonderful as each other uh yeah i mean i don't sort of i'm like this kind of trolling sort of family welcoming robusta is a healthy discourse you know a conversation yeah but you know like we're all sort of we all like phones which is itself a pretty niche thing to like why must we device out further you know like it's already a kind of glee key sort of nerdy nerd income I think in real life if you went to a developer who wants to introduce yourself to a load of strangers and over there in one corner you've got all the people talking about banking regulations over the other side all people shouting at their football on TV you only find a bunch of people talking about phones whatever your allegiance you're gonna go and fit in with these guys and chat so just get on my eyes as a message of peace yeah and of tolerant I'm why can't we split line because of just watch bands get along and that is a much yeah a lovely message to end on please get feedback coming yes by emailing us at our email address which is seen at UK podcast at CBS i.com that's right now there isn't gonna be a podcast next week we wash in a couple of weeks you have afraid so I am off in Dublin interviewing famous people not really I'm in Dublin for web summit and I producer Mark people never see is also not here apparently he's even harder to go on holiday I don't know what that's about that's in my other baby anyway thanks tomorrow he doesn't know who doesn't get let out the building you just are technically on holiday with in the middle to go to the second floor yeah those guys they've got a blow-up palm tree maybe that's what it's got in mind gathers dust off the balcony yet so easily misused must be what it is alright well thank you ND look who's face thank you obviously you'll never say especially not next inked and we are now off to see what that noise is in the cellar see you next week bye Oh