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hello and welcome you're listening to seen at UK podcast in this episode 418 for friday the twenty-third of january 2015 amazon is getting into the movie business but can anyone really challenge netflix plus we meet Apple's latest purchase charge our phones by magic in starbucks and things are getting strange I'm starting to worry could it be a case for Mulder and Scully I'm rich shown home and joining me on a high-tech long studio this week is luke westaway did it earlier did it it it it done dandan do I want to believe I can say that's all that's been away for a bit finicky babies and also with us is Andy oil hello hello that's how you say hello talking about the word from the front speaking bent hang on let me give it another go say hi to me I do didand and keep working on that keep away from that we are back filming this podcast so if you've missed our ugly mug Scalia but only being audio recently you can still enjoy the rest of our videos on sina com or youtube com / seen it we do look good actually he did a girl had a new haircut everything love you yeah it's like the old were a smaller yeah let's start listen I use gonna start by telling you what apple has been up to I hope it up to well what it's done guys yeah it's bought music metric now if the name didn't give the game away just a little bit there music metric is a UK company actually and that basically gives all kinds of analysis I'm on music downloads so download amounts and things like reviews and also actually about piracy like we're in person yeah that's true so it's kind of it so it's very modern phenomenon i guess it's them they not only look at sales and streaming things but sort of things that would have been measured by the charts previously the sort of things I've actually bring in cash bribes of music they also look at a pirate activity if people are torrenting certain songs or artists they look at reviews that have comments look at other social buzz on social networks so which doesn't bring in cash but it seems to have currency in these this day and age so it's been bought by Apple anyway so that could be like a good way of giving like actual proper music charts instead of just on sales it's on everything i miss all-encompassing what is like the UK top 40 we will endow mouth well yeah but you know be including all these things that really mattered about music yeah and maybe that'd be cool I guess which is in the run up cuz Apple's having bought beats and beats what was going to be there streaming service music beats music yeah bitches children run up to upper launching that and I was in ages ago they bought beats I completely forgotten to happen yeah yeah millions and moons dolls are they gonna do spinning with it but their biggest of purchase take well they I think they work together is they're going to fold beach music into itunes in some way and see me music metrics will be a path that but we will find out so yeah well from ingesting the fruit of lovely beans through your ears we're ingesting the fruit of lovely beans through your mouth I'm glad mouth via coffee well specifically starbucks a steel a 50 screenwriters Oh Oscar really earning their money this week yes well that was good great obviously everyone knew what I was doing there basically starbucks is bringing its wireless charging via powermat from San Francisco into London in some of starbucks stores actually Luke you were at the launch with his yes why don't you tell them more yes it was your all caffeined up or i went to a starbucks in London to see how this works it's actually bit so basically what happens is that the the tables in starbucks have these these these glossy pad things about size of coasters but they're embedded in the in the tables and just as ladi Dadi once you're forcing many coasters no rings on mine how do we anyway um yeah and then you say you need it like a wireless charging dongle thing which of these colorful little hoops which have a little connector on them and I let me win new image yeah so you basically go to the till and you borrow one of those you lug it into the bottom of your phone and they just rest it over the pad set the hoops on the pad and it charges your phone wirelessly okay so hang on let me get this straight right yes wireless charging which is supposed to be a technology that does away with the need for wires in charge of sodium UNK your phone down to make years and you have to borrow a charger okay well starbucks nailed it all right well we will get to all the reasons why why you're wrong to be unexcited okay but first i will concede that commenters do agree with you they're not impressed the dud right commented the duck of death is on your side you can always a powerful allies to have says that might be the dumbest invention yet in all the history of registers a wireless charger that you connect to the charger port meanwhile general stuff I carries you messes military record be honest if I can't use my phone comfortably while it is charging which I can't if it has to sit flat against the table I would rather have a wire that's a good point okay right is the reason why it's stupid to criticizes first of all wireless charging only does only promises to do away with the need for wires which this does so I can't accuse it of being misleading secondly it's not like there was an alternative is not that they've taken away all of the wired charges they had in starbucks okay springing out at the tables and now this is all you've got so now instead of like one power point you could have plasma yeah four or five phones doctor table yeah exactly that people don't have their phone charges with them there are only a few wall sockets and everything and these this is something that's like there's loads of them all through that all through the shop kind of loads on the desk and also like there's no fee for borrowing one from starbucks if you if you want to save time on repeat visits you can pay a tenner and then it's yours to keep like why don't just walk out with it definitely don't just walk out with it I mean who would do that's awful you did mention yolk and you know they're not doing away with all the wires coming at a table themselves yes why is this better than having wires Graham tables I'll tell you could put it in and actually keep using your phone you don't have to leave you but then there's only a limited number of sockets and that's basically going to a starbucks is always one person who's turned up and bought like arguing it's a half a green tea and is saying there for 75 hours working also like things like cables punking out of the marriage table is kind of ugly no I think yeah exactly okay no you taught yeah I taught me around actually and also we have the endorsement from mark our producer you will never see you just come back from San Francisco yes in actual incidence they're already rolling us out to 2000 San Francisco starbucks i believe it's gonna be in every starbucks in britain doing um no it's only 10 starbucks in London but it's like the first wave so they started in the US and it's like it's now spreading pretty rapidly okay so that it seems to have worked over there and if people take to it in these tens topics in London for the record I think this is completely the most stupid way of doing this that I've possibly ever heard let me give you one whole reason why it why it isn't so wireless charging is fraught with drama at the moment you wouldn't believe it because it's so uninteresting but there's all these different standards there's like the Qi standard Qi yes spell and then there's the PMA and then there's a there's another one I think these use the PM a standard who isn't that the rubbish one that no one uses but it doesn't matter what they use because you plug in this sort of day again gotcha yeah and then and then everything works with it so so it doesn't matter what kind of you don't have to like iPhones work which don't have any sort of wireless charging capability and let's face it at the ones probably loads of people in starbucks want to charges for that's true so it's a really quick is there a phone that can you thought up you can think many phones that do have wireless charging you can use with this um no I can think is charging they have they use they use cheaper the ACP yeah yes others LG's yeah cheers bees by far the most popular one could have gone with Starbucks any of it and actually had it done properly but neither kuna don't like no one no one who has a wireless charging phone uses their phone what like uses that capability or like I don't I think almost but that's because they have to buy separate wireless but if y'all started building it into tables and things which is what they need to do in order to make wireless charging a thing as does that you have a few theorists well I think yeah I think that um that sometimes we always always complaining about battery life being so poor on phones but I think wireless charging is actually going to make that the arguments a bit a bit null really because you won't if you have wireless charging built into everywhere you go so when you go to starbucks if your phone number table automatically charges you'll buy desks or the office so that's already built in and for library and schools and whatever so wherever you go you put your phone down it will discharge constantly in small bursts throughout the day so you don't need your battery to last more than a day or even more than half a day because it will always be charging all right so you don't ever have to do like one big charge overnight and it's fun to yeah you're getting other day yeah okay what that's quite enough about Wireless John no i think i have to say i don't care don't let them time there's like stub on a practical level no one currently uses wireless charging even though it's a very cool technology it has been around for years nobody uses it yeah starbucks sort of basically made Wi-Fi in cafes a thing and that was that was something that i believe they pioneered okay so they are mr. Starbucks yeahhh mister mister starbucks himself can come with his big big uncle sam top oxygen tension score seven years ago we invented Wi-Fi in coffee shops that's i'm saying they've got the clout to sort of make something right then okay okay so what I to be fair actually it was good that someone's kind of getting out getting ahead of the curve and doing anything really making a mess of it but he go good on your stomach alright how many score and seven years ago was it actually Oh some some anyway since this podcast following out control already Andy what is happening in the world of google glass well bad news in the world of google glass as Google is going to stop selling it oh dear yes so is it dead no it's not dead what it's doing is just not having it for sale anymore is not dead is just not the same it's not the sale it will be continuing working on it and working developers and hopefully this will be for future editions of or using the technology for other things well this is it so you're kind of a fan of the concept of kind of the principle behind glass if not necessarily teton to hardware so I am yes I think that Google glass as it as an idea the idea of having this sort of weird futuristic concept and giving out to all these developers try and crowdsources ideas and crowdsource the development is a really good idea if you have public beta test exactly yeah and it means that they can filter down some of the cool ideas with and the technology and voice control and voice recognition into things like Android wear which is on sale but I do think that charging 1,500 pounds per glass is a bad idea and I don't think people should buy that I think it should have been used for testing only absolutely and I think readers agree with you on the bad idea yes they do Jane's underscore garden says if a stranger walked up to you photographed filmed you then walked away how would you like it how about doing the same to your children I'm glad Google glass is gone and the idiot who invented them just start looking for more worthwhile ways to spend his time coming from Jones Gardner Empire says I'm a technophile in love all things technological but google group but google glass crosses a line that shouldn't be crossed I'm glad when we won't have to say the words google glass because it is quite difficult your glass is good i mean you know even if I was sober right now I would probably struggle with it frankly yeah I mean I can't say it's over um J FCP says Google already owns all yours of look at these days he's fine he's angry Google already owns all your personal files if you use that email with Google glass they don't every minute of your day and every move you made big brother and Skynet rolled into one that's absolutely not overstating it if you visit and well even the people who like Google glass have their reservations so shy a night says I love the idea of google glass and would definitely use it however no one wants a Borg sitting opposite them so it needs to be made much more discreet right well the good news is it's not going to be very much more discreet or indeed made a torso well they're gonna keep working at it so well I don't think the city and I gently wasn't acidic really you think well Google can't say like we're scrapping it because actually it turns out so you know like not selling it anymore and longer definitely no technology definitely it's a today we'll see something similar and I certainly think the technology will and if they be filtered down into we do have Android wear watches I have one right now and that's using a lot of the voice recognition technology that Google's been developing and glasses part of that because it obviously relies on voice control and stuff so yeah well let's move on to a bit technology that is a bit more popular yes we're going to talk about space probe news bass pro if I'm rich actually you have some good space proteins absolutely well it's kind of is good news and bad news in a way to understand so the good news is that the the beagle to probe has been found and not only did it make it to Mars just like it was planned it is bang on target so it had this cert disturb it's a space probe that was built by the European Space Agency backed by it was a british news team and their target area was 500 kilometers by 100 kilometers and they were a mere five kilometers away from the center so that's a lot of space terms that's a proper bullseye he's a bad news obviously is that um they lost touch with it about 10 years ago when he actually landed and it's basically nakid and there's no way they learn that in exactly the right place but term but it looks like it's mostly intact but they basically the antenna doesn't it didn't unfold properly so the space antenna hasn't popped out which seems like a little bit of a design flaw counter no rocket scientists trying to send out eagle 3 the repair beagle absolutely whatever thorough room there is 30 tokyo's Reese agency people 3 the Klumps eagle 3 beagle harder beagle three cruise control loaded so yeah so there is going to be another probe sent out in i believe 2019 by the european space agency and there are a couple of other progs already wandering around the surface of Mars so there's also the european space agency that did the whole comet london as well so did what a year for Space Exploration it has guys who has been speaking of space exploration in a very tan gentle way but my mom her mom or flaker than my alien the x-files let's talk i expelled because that is digitally it may be going to be hitting our TVs again in 2015 yes it is apparently Fox executives have been in conversations with Chris Carter the producer and writer to to bring it back such good news right absolutely and stars Gillian Anderson David Duchovny alive okay yeah yeah if you like yeah which is which is pretty cool i'll actually cuz it was weird because gillian anderson was on the Nerdist podcast yeah last week so before work sr before this came out i think actually this other news and she was saying that should be really keen on doing it and thinks that David dick off news would be so yeah I think that's really really cool knee like to see the story continue winning I would love to Steve story continue our big fan of x-files is a great show and yeah I like the movies as well where because they progress the story line a bit in the movie during the last one and it turned out that Mulder and Scully or actually got married and so it wasn't in there in two series so be good to see what position they are whether they're still in the FBI and whether they're like maybe mold is in charge of it or something who knows and I miss ya Luke I'm not not sure I think the first thing to say is that the x-files is finished but but its spirit definitely lives on like there are there are shows like a warehouse 13 or fringe springs to mind which do feel like sorts of modern reimagining of of the x-files I kind of deal with similar themes but it's a muck them more modern fresher TV shows and actually i think that the x-files was very much of its time and if you tried to do it in a sort of modern modern way like it it just wouldn't work I mean I do remember watching I'd recently watched the first season against I only watched a couple them at the time when it was all I know actually seen the whole thing so I thought I'll go back to netflix and i'll watch it and i was watching a few of the early episodes i was thinking to know what this show would be over if Mulder just had a mobile phone yeah digital camera well every time he breaks into some sort of see top secret government base it ends with someone stamping on his camera it's like oh well never mind next time we'll get the proof this I'd just be snapchatting it but there'll be no point snapchatting it because like the NSA would be an intercepting that and it's like the x-files what that was like was this fun kind of all imagine if there was like a government behind the government and now we know that there is and they're not doing fun things like hiding aliens and stuff like that and like like dirt like downing crazy submarines full of weird space diseases and stuff like that they're just like looking at your snapchats they're spying on us and torturing people yeah exactly nice pretty grim yeah so keep it in the 90s I say I mean we look back fondly absolutely yeah yeah okay well I mean other things go to Twin Peaks coming back in a year so and that feels up to me unlike another show that kind of belongs with its time and I think belong in the modern age but who knows maybe I don't think Twin Peaks belongs in any ages so weird it could be you know it could be set in like 60 it could canonically be set in the 16th century and everything happens exactly the same and you'd be like this isn't any weirder than Twin Peaks is a new fan theory I like that in life and here it all happens in a medieval monitor well yeah I mean speaking of TV has been kind of a big week for original programming on on various different services like Netflix Amazon that kind of thing what you're going to talk about their more about right now lights camera amazon amazon is getting into the movie business amazon instant video service has already started funding and showing TV shows to tempt viewers away from netflix and next it's planning as many as 12 movies a year that will appear in cinemas first then go online as little as a month later now 2015 is going to be a bumper year for original content produced by amazon netflix and the like netflix has hits with house of cards and orange is the new black it's also launching its most ambitious project yet four interconnected series and a mini series featuring marvel superheroes amazon just one load of awards are transparent and even playstation network is getting in on the action with a show called powers is this an exciting new frontier in the golden age of television or is TV as we know it fracturing into a million pieces denying us access to our new favorite shows before they even start it's certainly an interesting time to get square eyes now Luke are you a fan of original content I am a fan of original content what's horrible word your TV shows is what we miss ya content um yeah yeah I mean I am I think it's really cool i really enjoy loads of them especially house of cards which and things been fantastic how much orange is the new black but i know that everyone it's universally adored so you know i haven't seen it but Bojack horseman is another netflix one which i know much pretty good and and just it's you know it's cool after years of these streaming service sort of services sorts of being a place where really really old rubbish movies go to die you know it feels like now there's a proper reason to get involved and there are some other advantages too so for example if you are Netflix and you put out a TV show this way you get loads more data on who's watching and when they're watching how much they're watching which episodes they stop watching and stucture way more than traditional TV or movie makers make it sound so sexy yes I do so much sexy data and there's also like the potential for more interesting stuff so like networks might not have taken a risk on something my house of cards that's true they didn't originate a pilot episode but Netflix just said no yeah no it was all shot yeah netflix was crazy enough to feel like no we have all the money in the world have all the given Spacey's you need the netflix came down with this job back well how many Kevin Spacey's will it take to get this off the ground and they said only one and he said only one have him immediately so that's what happened to end and things like the Marvel collaboration like that's unprecedented you just can't imagine you still can't imagine that happening on traditional TV yeah that's it Ford well that's four different series of 13 episodes plus a miniseries combining them all together so it's a huge huge undertaking it's cool it's got not all of this sort of specially made for streaming services stuff is good and also it like it slightly annoying if you've got an Amazon subscription and all you want to watch all the stuff is on netflix but that's an engine time absolutely i mean there are some some drawbacks writers yeah it's not yeah something great I mean it's talking great time in asaba noisy sums out the last five years of television yeah it's been great well yeah it's get over there it's great seats on netflix and so doing this but even even microsoft because it launch Microsoft Studios which which is going to create orbits original content for the Xbox one stepping you think someone as big and as Microsoft could really sort of climbers behind but then Microsoft Studios did they just canned it last year so you know it's kind of a big blow that you'd think so yeah why can't it be done like what what is the formula it needs to happen that's changing and also i mean there's these other new end get on netflix kind of paving the way and they're very big on binge watching and because that will they do is they they put the news the new shows i am on it's available right at the same time so yeah every episode of the new series of house of cards is there on the same day so you can binge watch the whole thing and it that's really kind of like the kind of gold standard i guess and some of the other people that they haven't really some of the other entrance into this kind of market they haven't quite figured that out so PSN for examples which is fun that its own show for the first time called powers superior show and they are bringing their own march but they're only showing 1 episode a week like as if it's on Nelly I mean coming through that that doesn't take advantage of the medium that's the cool thing about about it being online exactly they're trying to sort of mimic broadcast so maybe it's been more collaborated you'll watch it is it is it that if we put it on just any time of the day or is it is the idea that they actually do like an actual she so it's not as a looking once a week and then you can watch whatever you like so they could put it could put on any time and they could bench what he'll thing which would make more sense you think and the other thing is like so Amazon does something similar a.m. they have something called pilot season where they basically make a bunch of pilots which is very old TV kind of model and make a bunch of kind of first episodes of new shows and then they put them online and you get to vote on the ones you like which is you know a great idea in theory it's kind of democratic and it takes advantage of the fact that you're that is the internet and you can have that feedback in that interaction yeah the problem is because their pilots if you like one you then gotta wait four months or it made and I the fact that the netflix goes well we've got this data that says people like Kevin Spacey and David Fincher if you put them together people are going to watch this show and it gives it this kind of like a conviction like an authorial conviction to say okay here's this show and we know it's good and so here it is a block and that has a bit more weight to it than then kind of the sort like pop idol kind of method of doing of getting your like one episode of a shower and going here jus like it how you like it I'm not sure that will work based on netflix is current a logarithm to this cuz i go on it said like oh because you watch planet earth maybe you're like RuPaul's Drag Race like well I really SME like this is the Alan do great lover is impossible well tonight RuPaul's Drag Race I'm sure I see the jeans but I mean did you first record yeah so yeah I mean yeah I it is interesting but there is a lot of a lot of data behind it i mean this om we've got some reader feedback about this is yes we have so sip sippin ricordo CIP n RK o our vos these 90 sipping our covo you decide how it's pronounced this is awesome it's nice to see movies come from elsewhere than Hollywood Mario c3 says amazon seems to be bringing out some good original stuff but i already have netflix i just can't see myself subscribing to another company taking eight dollars or so out of my account every week it's getting crazy with all these streaming sites satellite radio and now even programs like adobe it all adds up that's true I do kind of want to watch transparent but I don't want to sign up to Anderson because I'm already watching house of cards and all the other stuff yes I'm you know it's an all side you've do you feel like you cuz I I actually have an account with both nod he does and if it when I sent home with my feet up on a coaster but i do feel weirdly loyal to Netflix because it was the one I got into first yes I'm always a little suspicious if farmers ends up dude well I think that's why it's transparent has been such a big deal of them they want a couple of golden globes for that they won best yes own band best active Josh was a huge huge Eon se um guitar day I should up speaking their pilot season when dropping the man in the high castle might mention this lest we be the man in the high castle very very good okay so hopefully i'll get series like a year guitar kid 55 says i might be the only one but i still really enjoy going to the theater to see a movie i have a nice big TV and surround sound but it still isn't the same I don't really care how much it costs either i live in a smaller town and have very rarely had a bad experience at a theater yeah well that's always good to know that singer is still alive kicking alright well let us know what you think about the new kind of golden age of television whether it is moving online and for now we're going to move on and talk a bit more about TV in this week's quiz yes the quiz is back and the leaderboard stands Andy has five yeah you can Jason are tied for the number one spot on six yeah a leaderboard breaker Oh Luke sound like this of course topical absolutely and Andy sounds like this Andy sounds like this is there we go that's what I understand i was like okay so fingers on the buzzers fastest thing at first what i want you to do is I'm going to describe to you some new TV shows that are coming along some sci-fi fantasy geek for any TV shows that are starting in 2015 you don't know anything about the show all you need to know is that you need to be able to tell me from this description is it based on a comic is it a remake is it based on a true story it was it rescued from another network is it a spin off or was it that rare beast was an original idea so what was it based on basically can't remake spin-off true story what it was a based on okay all right so here's question number one a girl solves crime by eating brains Luke sounds like a comic book to me it was a comic that's iZombie coming to the CW and that was based on a comic by Michael red among other people okay question 2 and these fingers on the buzzers oh yeah two teenagers take shelter from nuclear war then emerge 10 years later with a child in tow and II want my options again what's it based on cremation comic novel spin-off idea true story it could be at rooster novel it's based on the novel it's not the right answer ralink yes what was it it's just how I say was it something that another network didn't want and they're doing it is not the right answer dashing original story that's cockroaches on ITV yesterday go before that's called cockroaches cockroaches oh it's a post-apocalyptic british comedy apparently it's all right my dead set another most of knock elliptic british comedy dead set wasn't a zombie thing post-apocalyptic zombie zombie isn't apocalypse oh yeah that's right he's like so many big brother wasn't like bigger Dibley yeah post buckle yeah well it didn't come up with actually set in the year 5,000 that was the Christmas elimination of reference in it yeah it was when she falls in a puddle that's like a puddle of future time travel gook let's just go through a portal there's the Christmas episode where she has to go and eat to rotting corpses it's yeah Christian please owasso looked on one and that's that's that's it that's it button that's all we've managed I guess we are slick carnival it is a good now these you both got chances because there are two possible answers this remember comment remake not all original idea risk from the network and the question is what was this show about two cops investigate crimes rated superheroes what's that based on Andy the two cops do what investigate crimes related superhero later two superheroes that is a one-take advance to come on a trick question it is a comic yes yay and there is another option as well drew I got that it's also pastor and buy another network oh very good ah do I get to buy you think it too funny I'll take that one Dwayne Sam it is like not them ah no that's powers which is that's what I've done the PSI yeah exactly yeah so I did mention earlier which can be a bit of a clue but they didn't finish my plaintiff buzzing oh yeah that's not how it works okay line so that means it's six all that's exciting and yr a question would have been too honestly on the subject of online streaming and that kind of thing to the nearest million how much has the controversial movie the interview made online any ideas how much money i mean bothers i think it may lead us I thought it made something like 15 or 20 million dollars which everyone held as a massive success but I don't think actually is i think that's way less by think it was 440 it was exactly 14 million I there was a little help from my co-produced even know he definitely is not mine 42 miles 40 miles between 9 40 mark just do it again I'm not mad I'm just curious actually I was a really good mind for 40 well there's a camera on me he held up his first life is like this shows age yes or no 0 with his hands I mean so what else would it turn I just I was a thought I was elegant so they interview is Phil it was rented or purchased online more than 5.8 million times it made 14 million dollars but that is obviously a special case because of you know the year controversy around it and all that kind of thing okay so yeah let's move on now on to the feedback a beautifully concise edition of the feedback this week Sylvia Ortega El Faro says hola buenas tardes hola when I stutter Sylvia um that's nice does the end of the end of the message no recibo porfavor that's just that's getting special now I do apologize don't serve a sus um Phillip Thompson says bourbon or custard creams hmm I got for Custer kindling I've got screams also i think custard creams are underrated i think they're let down by a really really horrible name cast custer cream uh yeah no notice of that custody and they both are good but no there are as good as a party ring yeah that's true one coming to the tap room or Phillip Thompson also says supermarket brand TVs IE technica and polaroid this is a prop question okay right is a proper place in the attention Kevin focus up guys are they worth it or a waste of money good question is a really good question she so and unfortunately doesn't really have a very easy answer so it depends on the TV so in years past we've reviewed technica TVs some are ok yeah some are less so so obviously this lightly depends on the actual but the model it's easy to say go for a bigger brand like Samsung or LG but but that's okay that is if that's really easy today that but I'm put like that it's not I don't think it's that much more expensive to go for a recognized brand and their eyes women with your coasters and yeah exactly my guys over shall i watch Netflix or Amazon Prime drinking golden tee out the doily yeah but Dooley yeah just fine I don't know what you play people to adjoin me to put one over my mouth and have it poured through a doily would be a useless filter with its big holes I can't really see properly when my nose is pressed up against the glass 60 he's back get rid of every step out yeah yeah so but there are some good reasons to go for a bigger brand because actually you can get you can get a really good TV for not very much money these days you don't have to there's certainly a lot of Smart TV features that come yes that's the other thing so like there's it's Samsung or LG would be kind of that if I was buying a TV that's a decision I would be making and I'd be weighing up what the Smart TV features are of each so and I think I'm not hundred percent familiar with the Smart TV features of Polaroid tactical I'm willing to bet that they are not as that you don't get as much so as if you care about smart features which of course I don't yes but but but I think people do do though I didn't when I I didn't when I got my smart TV right now like i'll use the netflix up everything that's ever done did for you you've already probably gone xbox plug a or bugs 360 is gotten anything yet like but the TV has it and that's quicker okay so sorry my conclusion we've come to is the term if you can afford this you know a sort of be a brand that's definitely worth it but as you were saying earlier like is a TVs and investment you'll have it for years and years and years it's worth as well sort of shopping around dutch twinkle constrictor alright great thanks everybody no worries please keep the feedback coming everybody out there in radioland by emailing us at our email address which is seen at UK podcast CBS I com it's on screen right now if you excellent well that's it for this week thanks very much out thank you thank you thanks thanks to our producer Mark you will never see right we're off to binge watch rupaul's drag race scenic see you