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CNET UK Podcast - PlayStation is 20 and Stephen Hawking's robopocalypse - Ep. 413

2014-12-04
hello and welcome you listening to the scene at UK podcast in this episode 413 for friday the 5th of december 2014 the playstation is 20 years old yotaphone is back and Stephen Hawking has voiced his fear of a robot apocalypse with less than 20 shopping days to Christmas let I'm rich run home and joining me a high-tech London studio this week is and the oil hello hello it's just me just you yours gonna do you were going to say another another name I was I wasn't yeah we had to bring you in because that no one else would do it but Sir yeah Lou top doing his Christmas shopping I guess with Jason as well yes he's is in Mexico getting getting us presents anyway kids have you back as always we are filming the podcast so you can see this and all our videos on cnet or youtube.com slash seen it so look out for that but for now let's start with the news I'm gonna start by talking to you about professor Stephen Hawking risk the renowned theoretical physicist legend you do know all about his work in depth as do I'm sure our listeners and I won't go into detail on that but he has been working with intel on a new a new communication system and that is called a cat or assistive context-aware toolkit because apparently twice as fast as his old system which would be as that is the basis of how he communicates our people arts sure speeding up by by by twice is quite a that's that's a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah imagine if you could talk twice as good they've done even a this podcast would be half the length which I'm sure everybody would appreciate but yes well they're coughing about this is that it's actually going to be an open source platform for researchers and developers to use the idea is it's not just being built for stephen hawking to use but can also be used for other people who are step from the same condition that's motor neurone disease as ALS from american yes pls like the ice bucket challenge drooling if people actually knew what that ice bucket thing was for ya so yeah and other people who have similar conditions where they can't communicate nonlin so when so that's pretty cool yes absolutely a good system and what's also quite cool is that it uses am swiftkey which is the same it's the same that keyboard that you're building use for android phones mmm which is a pretty popular absolutely that i use that also british company so something to be proud of yeah yes it is protected I likely i do as well they'll see stephen hawking for we were on the smartest men in the world i was going to have the same auto correct problems as us so he'll be like do you fancy nipping out for a riot yeah and that kind of thing yeah use of suit exactly that kind of thing yet it's that not all great news though is it no it's not all good news in fact because Stephen Hawking has also predicted the end of humanity and courtesy of the computers that were all those using pest lands he says a I would take off on its own and redesign itself at an ever-increasing rate right bad news humans who are limited by slow biological evolution couldn't compete and would be superseded Robopocalypse this is this terrifying is quite the singularity yeah I mean well they do they quite easily finished off good they already well they could ya becomes poison the food when the robots basically make most of our mass produced food they'll build the car so that the wheels just fall off as you're driving along yeah kinda particularly with our automated cars Google Google Drive stuff yeah yeah they could just stop working I mean ready yeah precisely and I'll just Ness can stop making your house warm in the winter smart ovens and it's no longer gonna cook your food everything we already using technology we just stop then human race would crumble we're we're at the mercy of our of our robot overlords bren stir 21 on one of our commenters says isn't this while we have the three laws that's azimuth famous three laws of robotics and he says seriously those laws become as important as the Ten Commandments when the time comes yeah wise alive also says he has a bit more measured approach wiser lives he or she says or possibly a robot we don't know they say AI will continue to improve and cost-effective ways that will threaten have a more human jobs but it will ultimately be humans calling the shots if we destroy the planet through climate change meanwhile then robots might be the only ones after you can live here any robot revolution could be the least of our worries so if it's not the robots it's the ozone layers it's the polar bears yeah yeah I've got it coming from all directions really as the human race when I want trouble on me but is that any way maybe the robots for the most direct for a particular if you've seen the the big dog walking robot by Boston Dynamics who have been bought by google so yeah that is that is terrible to that this is there any any cool stuff we can just any trinkets we can distract us also in doing this in the meantime whilst we're waiting for our inevitable demise yeah why don't I tell you about the yotaphone 20 this is yes right here for one thing in my hand so yeah viewers of our of our video podcast scale is evolving it for listeners we this is the kind of gold that you get when you watch the video right and is currently holding a phone it is no man tacular yeah we're both pretty handsome yeah now this phone 55 inch android phone you ever ignore all that nonsense yet all the usual Android circuits on the back well as an e-ink display that's the same flip the survey technology as it has gripped Tyndall's is pretty cool so super and good battery life if you use the earring screen all the time sounds really cool sounds nice idea there is a problem there is a problem there is a problem there's always a catch 550 pounds which is all ludicrously expensive for a completely unknown brand where and admittedly good but it's a gimmick is what it is and people need to really know what this and selling at 550 pounds no one's got a reason to buy that particularly when you can get phones like the LG g3 is a sale right now on amazon for only 300 pounds i found that today actually 300-pound embrace yeah like a top-end flagship with a laser in its camera and a 2k screen and here's a hitter yotaphone this is 550 verena and as an aside we've also got another a new manufacturer that we just popped into the office and exhaustion this has last time we've seen this as premier today in fact so good that we can take off the everyone loves taking off the screen protector in the first but if i do it and close enough to the mic you can hear that oh oh oh that's a good sound podcast gold that is brilliant again when you if you if you're viewing you be able to see how thin this is because is astonishing it's only five millimeters thin a 5.1 i think i'm chiseled which is called the chasm something over I put the Box down it literally has just arrived hey the fact is the jiffy bag that it has literally just arrived in so and it's called snow profession because I'm tornado 348 and that only costs about 250 pounds so look forward to the review of that one for an alternative from a European new manufacturer absolutely okay cool enter so speaking of phones but this time landlines fixed lines yes bad news bears for BT customers and in fact actually lots of landline people because landline prices are not going to be one pound more expensive Wow I know that horehound that's 100 fewer penny suites you can buy every month now I don't even know if any sweets up any idiot anymore because it's not all but they were the first casualty with a bit like sure because they've doubled immediately yeah if not more so when you guys get freddos for tempe anymore no and Joe how much 10 pence crisps costs now is it 30 i don't know but then it's not 10 parents bit that way I'm its face Raiders for dirt cheap but he's terribly so Russell's yeah anyway yes it's BTW talk talk sky and next year will be virgin as well putting up their line rental fees everyone's doing this and just to remind us what we pay for BTW this week has had a bit of an outage where people who are on bt broadband couldn't access the web including me i was trying to watch the wire on on now TV in the day I couldn't and I was very angry maybe it was it way of saying you should watch something better yes that's the worst thing in the world like men in black because really why wouldn't you always watch funny bike well moving on from that bad news and to some good news nostalgia button ostalgie yes so it's it's the 20th anniversary of the PlayStation the sony playstation the first PlayStation and celebrate sony has released a classic grey version of the ps4 as in the same classic great colors of the original model well thats super ugly grey they got rid of yes master oh yeah there's almost a throwback of like the beige IBM pcs again in the nineties i knows why they made it grey that's so strange baby i want one because it's super-limited Edition rich so limited yeah are in fact only twelve thousand three hundred units being made is that all is that yeah that is so you know act now if you want to get your hands on any of those two and a half thousand that without that to be fair thats that's in reference to the date because yes it was so low it was launched on the third of december 1984 so 12-3 brilliant yeah i mean they could have done 3 12 no they couldn't anyway you know i mean and if i hit 3120 so yeah and and that's gonna be a 400 pounds for the pound if you want one so yeah there you go and did you have them one of these i haven't one of these but i did have the original playstation test it Oscar I I was I've always been a PlayStation boy right up until the xbox 360 okay I'm which one had both of course good as them um a bit of a nerd um yeah the PlayStation 1 was fantastic and I had my favorites of course cool boarders which every year still me and my brother we play through the entirety of cool voice at Christmas time and we'll be doing so this Christmas so you got to get all the special attractors special there's extra you can get the Snowman you can get the Alpine Boyd freestyle board brilliant game that was good fan 27 of course crash bandicoot tomb raider these were all the PSone classics yep I mean I wasn't a huge game I did own one I won mine in a pub quiz as she would say it was a pub cause that was sponsored by Sony so we won a Playstation each and we also won a woolly hat each with PlayStation logos on it and a bag with the PlayStation name on it and a bottle of vodka that's I'm gonna say you so you were in a you're in a pub when you got this so yeah howdy I was eighteen 18 yeah this isn't it's a couple years after it came out with no offense when I got mine I was six when it came well your northern so you were probably already in the pub then anyways bothering my yeah I had that and we didn't play many classic games I've used from like driver a lot remember I used to play a die hard trilogy and then we'd go out to at the pub to the pub in the evening and then are nocturnal flatmate would come out and play Resident Evil in the dark all night which was terrifying when you went downstairs to get glass of water in the night but there you go I also the ps2 which my girlfriend bought for me which made up for the Christmas where I bought her a set of hair straighteners really expensive ones and she found them before Christmas and having not bought me anything she ran out to the shop and got me a DVD an apple and that's her BD and a nap a deviant enough for ya but then therefore my birthday's you got my ps2 I think she wrote a little bit guilty the transporter it was ones interested in why the abbey walls that was just all they had in the shop there was actually that's rubbish they had this DVDs and apples it shop is she going to themselves both these things Jed's the quarter shop they say the place there's opened just before Christmas did anyway me that week he's trying to guess I should you either play I'm sorry to interrupt and you to play a die-hard with the light gun yes I did I had time crisis to with the lion crisis yes I used to rent them from Apollo video in name wickersley no i didn't i was in buxton by then I from wherever it was good as amazing as I couldn't ever afford to buy a Lycan but I did rent them from the sharpen oh yeah I know I did time crisis to as immortalized in the zombie episode 4 is it zombie ups it's one of the episodes of spaced anyway I've pretty sure they play time Christ in that so there you go anyway maybe not more memory search shoe yay 35 one of our commented says I remember using that original PlayStation 1 play Resident Evil with my dad that's very nice memory that was in like nineteen ninety-seven such a memorable experience Mark Jackson talking about the new limited edition grey ps4 says I keep throwing my wallet at the screen but nothing is happening which is talking about Tracy too fast for you oh aight says for a collectors were pretty neat i like my white on too much to trade in tho long and Navi HC 78 says four hundred ninety nine dollars thanks but no thanks I like mr Jackson's commentary pro my wallet at the screen but nothing's happening is that we are we laughed at that sounds ridiculous but really if you've got contactless payment on your in your chest then you could just do that and just hurl your money at it and it'll like set the pay for the future of online shopping and just get you all it out and just bang fit on the screen and done Bulls Matthew TV some as well buy a new one too well speaking of retro competing in retro gaming yes the sinclair ZX spectrum is back and well in a in a form anyway it's called the spectrum vega and it's actually currently being crowdfunded on indiegogo now it's looking for a hundred thousand pounds yeah of a target which has two lofty amounts of money you guys think but it's already reached it and it has 59 days left to go Wow so who knows what sorts of amazing heights of money they are going to be rolling in can you actually get one then how much did it cost no well so it did cost a hundred pounds for the full of air for the consult service like a little micro console kind of imagined by the originals that expect to him or more recently if you imagine like a Raspberry Pi in a case that sort of thing okay and and it comes with a thousand games built in and they're going to be about 14,000 more available to download so without the original spectrum games are available and made for it it cost us alone the games cost a hundred pounds which in very much but sadly they have all sold out there are various other ways you can contribute to web to their campaign but the original the thousand consoles have all gone and as far as I've seen there's no word on whether going to be doing more runs of these yeah they're certainly well if it's that popular it seems the demands they're absolutely I mean I ascetic spectrum i had a Commodore 64 did ye yeah it was beige okay what else is the same happened to Beijing computer hey that was that was that was the color to blue alkali flashing blue lights ice computing yeah okay yes I'm gonna move on to some Star Wars news that's right I'm gonna hand it's over to you rich mean cars as we all know I am not very good on films well this did kind of happen last week with so we thought we'd mention anyway because we're all very excited about it I mean obviously you don't think it's as good as you know a classic well yeah so if any Star Wars trailer i did watch it it looks really cool and i have i have to be fair seen the original style I've seen all the Star Wars but obviously even I know that the original ones are better we don't have Jar Jar Binks in yeah well that's a bonus but Sam it's no men in black is no man in violet shit well we're very excited bout see I mean I imagine you've probably seen them by now a foam all 6 20 says Wow one incredible teaser trailer I can't wait hopefully we'll be as good as the prequels in terms of visual impact and as good as the originals in terms of quality directing so for a second there we thought foam ol was was making up some nonsense but pulled out the bag their phone while 620 and gadget 70 is also said fantastic trade which recapture the conferral original trilogy love the x-wings Millennium Falcon and the soccer ball droid the new lightsaber however with the laser guards is utterly useless if it's meant as a hand guard and other lightsaber would simply slide down your blade cut off the guards from the handle and continue to slice off your arm now this is a bizarrely enough is a debate that's been raging online extensively about how useful via the the made-up space sword might actually be in a fight and how safe it might be so if you've got any thoughts on that then that let us know gee whiz two cases watching this made me feel like a giddy ten-year-old again awesome had to watch it seven times in a row can't wait a whole year to see it so they go so that Star Wars isn't going to be out until next December so a year from now we're going to see other trainers in the meantime probably around may the fourth on the star wars day star wars day possibly with the Avengers age of Ultron sequel because they're both made by disney but we'll see I'm not trying to think about how a crossover of Star Wars men in black would go the only thing I can think is a man came in here earlier a dead man that's not the dead man you're looking for that's I like you I like if I could remember anything from any but that would be they'll be amazing I can take you through the entire script will forward rings if you like possibly we'll do that next week battalion here's a film that you don't have to wait to see and this is the hobbits the new Hobbit film yes I have just taken over the reins of talking about this before passing it immediately back to you because you were at the world premiere yesterday I was yes I want the green carpet with Benedict Cumberbatch and people yeah they'd never read copper that a green carpet I guess it meant it was meant to be like middle earth or something it's just cheaper so that's the UCAN you can tumble dry a green card I think that they put it in with something green and it came out the red car became a great he's going to bounce so this is the the hobbit the Battle of the five armies which is the final film in the trilogy of what's final film in the trilogy of prequels blitz also the final film in the Peter Jackson lord the rings series unless he gets given a load of money to make some more it's a pretty much more the same if you like Lord of the Rings you will like this if you don't and all of the Rings there's nothing particularly new the gas I load more just songs for no reason yeah there's three musical numbers yeah there's a rap battle between Gandalf and Saruman which is which is it's pretty fun yeah yeah there's no but I mean basically it is it's alright i'll totally deadly yeah ceremony gandalf layer laying down some rhymes great great middle-earth flow there's not enough Bilbo and no decent villains but apart from that it's pretty good Gandalf speared one of our reader says I wish Peter Jackson could do more work based in middle-earth I hate to see it end can thus be it sounds like an exclamation Gandalf gay that's all he also sounds a little bit like you know Gandalf wife who has to go along to party to pretend the Gandalf anyway so yeah reader in Houston says so glad it's over Jackson did such a great job on the lord of the rings the hobbit was a flop didn't like at all it should have been no more than two movies which i think is a fairly fairly popular sentiment but you know if you like Lord of the Rings then the same as the only no one really shouldn't have to be anyway if any I mean you didn't have to be a film at all right let's be honest that's true that's true anyway so yeah we check it out that's out very soon in the UK and then it's out the week after very soon in the US so we've already seen it because you're cool yeah yes anyway cool let's cert move on and here we go to be saying in this week's feedback feedback time so what you guys were saying on facebook and the like PS Khokar I hope I'm saying that right apologies for not is it the right time to buy a laptop or should i wait for processor m's this is intel core m processor yeah i can wait if it's if it's going to be a major change so well yeah there will be some changes it's more about the size so I'm going to have like really thin tablets ops ii is designed for mobile not for like desktop pcs so really really skinny tablets and as with all new Intel processors it's all about more power and taking up less battery so potentially less than nine millimeters thick heard the thickness of pcs from 2010 so if you do have a bitter but pieces bit older you can get a new on a tablets like a third of the failures but you would have to like to wait because it's it's out it's available now for manufacturers and we're going to be seeing laptops and tablets in the first few months of 2015 so yeah but too long to wait to find out but if lightness bothers you if you want to really like that top then I would say it's very worth and keeping your eye on the january sales for computing there because obviously they have sales anyway but knowing that they're going to get a whole load of new pcs coming in show a gun want to shift this stock that's a good time to do it and that some bargains on my pc with some great deals good tip money saving andy the only saving an today's Christmas yet again so Martin Leo David Robertson says I've had the runs for three days should i go see a doctor also burns when i pee that can't be good can it's now this isn't so much a tech question but we feel that you know as a public service we should probably answer it the answer that is yes yeah i mean we obviously we're not medical professional so don't take that i would not know we just play one TV but yes so there you go Matthew Dawson Jones has sent in a review of the 2013 google nexus 7 which was written by his daughter i presume his daughter Martha who is nine months old and she says it tastes nice and it sounds great when you hit it with a small plastic giraffe which sounds like a four-star review to me well sounds like exactly what I wrote in my review that's it that's up on your new benchmark at the giraffe test tick camel more sense good question what's going to be the hot new tech of 2015 and why well same big trends we've been saving for while we're going to see a lot more wearables obviously we got the apple watch coming yes see more Android wear stuff we'll probably see new stuff Google glass whether you should be excited about wearables yet I mean I'm not yeah I'm so waiting fest that that big product can I think this i think this Christmas might be a big big thing because I heard some people talking some analysts and some retail analyst talking about how we're wearables might be big this Christmas with smart bands and then smart which is being bought as present to people yeah lots of sales but I still don't think there's a particular reason to be excited about what they do they aren't the revolution that smartphones were to feature phones they're not bringing in this whole knee thing yet yes yes rich another one that might come back I think become big this this year is smart home so we might see things like the nest thermostat becoming a lot more mainstream quietly mainstream I think it's not really thing that a flashy thing really quite let me come along I have not no I rent my places yeah let's problem I think just like Russell Brand yeah yeah he rents yeah yeah how much he is I don't know what unites actually and the other thing I think might be a big thing I actually tried this out the other day I tried knocking some oculus virtual reality stuff at the hobbit premiere they've made a sort of virtual reality movie in midler they've gone to New Zealand and they've done this thing where you saw you look around in middle-earth you you're into a bag end in Hobbiton you look around and you can kind of see Gandalf walks past you and fireworks go off and you look up in the sky and you can see the fireworks so occupied may actually release a project but they set their product but there's Sony Morpheus the Samsung gear VR so there's all this when we over there did you look down and we're terrified by your huge hairy feet my name is had gone down which you haven't put it on yet that is that is a manned every single morning that's true all right thank you very much for the feedback please keep feedback coming it by emailing us at cnet UK podcast at CBS i.com that's it for this week thank you Andy thank you rich it's been a pleasure thanks to our producer Mark who you will never see right we're off to play resident evil in the dark see you next week
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