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hello and welcome you listening to see that UK podcast miss episode 41 44 Friday to 12 to December 2014 we're stepping into virtual reality as the first major VR product hits the market stepping into the past by extracting DNA from ancient manuscripts and into space as we check out a Superman show without Superman I returned my majority our high-tech moments to do this week is handy glue hello you came to me first I did come see I mean I get to say hi before Luke yeah well nothing back you botched it so you're honest i'm luke luke westaway is also a secure you see if you can do any better than that well the good thing about you guys Randy first is it gives me more time you think about what I'm something funny to say and instead of something funny this time I've come up with that searing insights so you're welcome stay tuned for more of this kind of more this kind of podcast gold why don't we kick off with the knees hooray for VR virtual reality tech fans yeah or acronym funds yeah this I mean there's so many people who are going to be excited about this you're in yes so it's Samsung's V our gear VR virtual reality headset that has finally gone on sale but I see you already getting very excited your blankie staring lifeless faces and those dead shark eyes my face is not lifeless not you know it's pallid but it's not actually dead so Andy you tried the gift so well I have tried it but the thing to not the reason not to be excited yet is because it's only going on sale in the US so far and it's only being launched through AT&T to website and some of Samsung's own retailers i believe so it's only on quite limited release but you're right Owens you have to have a samsung galaxy note 4 as well that is the other problem with that seriously are one of those oh yeah so actually addressing this news to a UK centric podcast is kind of like an insult to the listeners but it's interesting to know that it is on sale and maybe it's going to soon come over here and so yeah I have been and I have had to go without other gear VR and actually had this great demo where I'm samsung had filmed just 360 degree video from a camera mounted below a helicopter flying over a glass here so i was i was put the headset on and then as I look around move around I'm seeing the entire view of this glass here and full HD as I'm as I'm looking around which really was actually incredible and genuinely this was impressive i was i was seriously I mean it's almost a bit sickening yes there's a flying right over da sein is quite unnerving that perfectly simulated being tied to the underside of a helicopter yeah which was which is great we will be right you do have to have a note for ya I'm a note for it's about 600 pounds and then the gear VR itself is launching in the US for two hundred dollars mmm that's a hell of a lot of money to spend so this helicopter landed wouldn't it have squashed a camera don't ask questions like that Luke we're going to go into us a rabbit warren of darkness that's the end of the simulation the camera lands you die yeah you get a squad if I envy are you die in real life so this I mean this is significant I guess because I mean there are virtual reality products out there we have had virtually RT for years and years but of the current kind of wave of interest in it this is significant because they've beaten Sony's project Morpheus and they've been oculus as well which was the kind of company that reservation turist in VR and they they've really been taking their time so it's a yes I suppose Santa's got the resources yeah well sounds like there's hasn't been bought by Facebook but after that deal went through we just heard nothing really i mean i don't sure if they're even doing anything with it but yes it's something the first of all though Samsung's is definitely it's a weaker product in terms of what it can do it's just a hat it's a hat it's a pony yeah it's not proper virtuality like that doesn't have it posh hat yeah it doesn't have its own screen doesn't have its own processing it's all done through the phone whereas oculus is a is a complete unit that would effectively doing complete unit you complete unit yes well thank you for ruining the complete package so you came you came close to actually making this a meaningful point Ned so no no I wasn't you think I wasn't even close so this thing costs a two hundred dollars yet you're in America yeah and look how readers think of that ich bin i know'd it's been I nerd in the comment says so you're telling me they expect me to pay two hundred dollars for a glorified smartphone accessory I wouldn't call it glorified that's what this is right a smartphone accessory yeah right so that is what we're telling you you 99 nurture bad news I mean he'll come over here that's that there hopefully working yeah it's a luckily it's diminishing trend stuff that we don't get in the UK like the the Apple watch they've not mentioned a UK release date for that so it seems likely at the moment that maybe we'll have to wait a little bit Andrew I said Andy has a stick of Brighton Rock hidden behind is a zoning for it I sure when who knows the camera is on someone else are in so that you can just have a little bit of rock I like Brighton Rock it's colorful look at all the colors yeah brilliant it's very colorful apart from the end that you've sucked all the color don't put it in your mouth and it's the fruity Wally not no one goes but in is awful that is this is noisy package this is audio gold I just like to use do just like to apologize to everyone knows Rock rising rock is this is a UK podcast that's Giuliana strip and so they go yeah stuff that you can't buy is going in the UK there's also an American Way okay going on in the news okay well black phone and now this is the the smartphone released for ultra security conscious people that can't be hacked and it admit you can make secure phone calls and texts well it has just got its own app store right opening in January yeah you know a lot more about this rich don't you because you wrote about the black phone I believe I did yes so this is yeah like you say it's May it's a kind of collaboration between a company called geeksphone which makes the hardware and a service called silent circle which does this kind of encryption of secure messages and texts so you make a focal and in theory it can't be can't be listened to and so yeah so this phone it's an android-powered phone but up until now we first saw it I think you'd februari at mobile Congress and you'll be able to buy it really I think since summer but um yeah it's android phone but you can't amazon appstore and obviously if you buy this secure phone and then you download apps on tick some of them are going to be quite quite leaky it's going to be over but a bit of a point of something security so I'm and you there's always controversy that we're hearing about that but apps taking charge of your camera and all that kind of yeah the idea is that that the black phone are going to kind of vet these apps they're not going to have games or social network stuff but they're going to vet this stuff like Apple dough social I that work why don't you know why not well I think it because it's too frivolous be frivolous for someone who's security minded exactly yeah you can't be wasting time on games when you should get about who's watching you yeah you don't want to be playing tetris when they the black helicopters kick down your door yeah yeah I helicopter couldn't kick down the door so as I thanked quickly and used its runners that's just what the idea is the one of the one sets of people there selling it to the main probably sir except people are saying to is people are going to be business users so I think the idea is that they're going to have business focused apps so that people can this can become a viable alternative to to say a blackberry or a samsung phone well mr. freeze 574 in the comment says why not just use a blackberry how long have you got yeah its mysteries with her this is a very short podcast so yeah there you go it's the idea with this app store and and all the security stuff that these controlling apps that will sort of frivolously sell your data or use your data in certain ways is up is that part of it they just a variation as various parts of it it's the if they don't want it to be leaky and you know apps I use they don't get malware on there they don't to be leaky than your personal details can be you know that can get can be got access through the apps they don't have mono social networks which is a shame it's like so I mean I don't want a phone that denies me from every onto social networks well that's true that your social no you obviously you aren't taking your privacy and security seriously I think that this year will actually or next year 2015 I think will be a year when security goes mainstream in terms of my phones and mobile device I think that sounds so boring it did crucial and useful but but are we going to any years time gonna rip this was here security when mainstream mr. like review of the year 2050 what it ideas on them what a year it's been for security well actually I'm writing a review of like the year at the moment and looking back it's in that's not enough it's not been a whale of a time it's like remember GCHQ and all supposed to been a boring year someone asked me just a couple of days ago so what what android smartphone you're using a moment because I review our phone so I tend to have like all of the best ones and off well my point is is that I I'm just so not excited about any of them like was there's nothing that's really standing out as making me go that's cool i'm gonna use this one I'm going to talk to you about this phone point but we're talking about teams of the year my theme is that god I'm really bored I'm seriously bored it's time to knock this annoying people get bored yeah yeah tell mama say knock this Andy on the head and Thor out another one okay he's become self-aware another Andy so fresh-faced excited about phones again well if I mean that we did see it my work on wrist so that last year in the year before there was very incremental stuff wasn't there that was the works already excited yeah you knew pause and I mean the black phone was the kind of exciting new product in that was as was like Firefox OS and a bun co bun do you look really cool and that was actually quite exciting as its new different and we're not seen anything of it and so yeah there's more slightly different looking android phones please basically all's yeah so warning off the point but Sir mobile Congress will be in February so we're actually that far off seeing our next year's was it March now thanks what it is go somewhere birthday they moved it so now I'm gonna be a mobile phone trade show on my birthday you're so think of the party yeah just think of how many phones so many party okay got well that's looking ahead to the future but now let's look back to the past what a good segue nose gets a goy as a futuristic device so let's hop off that segue rich and get on a horse and cart oh yeah you see where I was going okay um so let me first tell you quickly about about what a parchment is yes what is about a parchment Luke and rich unpaid audiences is it's not paper though it's actually made from flattened calf skin and hides of animal yes you're wrong to be disgusted because what we found out you from researchers at University of York and Trinity College in Dublin found that they have been able to find out about British farming practices by studying the DNA of these parchments because they are from living animals have actually been able to use DNA find out what these animals were fed at the time and then be able to learn about farming practices or last clevis office by seven five seven hundred years ago a long time ago and this is possible because obviously animal DNA wouldn't would have sort of disappeared over the years or decayed yeah its own but parchment is looked after very carefully in libraries and archives yes and also the preservation process to make the parchment as well means that it won't erode as quickly as just a dead coward well I think then the next thing the next stage is obvious really i think that that scientists have to create theme park with cloned british horrible animals like we call it term we could call it arable world oh it's arable farming our agricultural world don't know they're both great names husbandry world husbandry park I Sergey me look at how normal this cow looks has not been selectively bred to be like an enormous big cow marshmallow so there's actually I didn't know part was I thought paper parchment was her was just paper that's been had tea spilled on its Bert around the edges anyway cool else's we going on what get can I was like we've lost Andy little Annie regardless of it also can also just point out that in seven hundred years yeah historians aren't going to know anything about our farming hmm conditions from our paper so you know so who's that who's the jerk now oh yeah who's histories fool yeah they will be able to tell quite a lot about farming practices of I'd sort of the fossilized barn full of like 10 million chickens crammed into 2-foot square yeah which is our current way we do it yeah anyway more history stuff and the layout of a medieval city of medieval underground city this is in Old Sarum in Salsbury old sour I don't know if I'm planting sterile ceram Old Sarum oh I don't know I don't know I've never known both somewhere in Salisbury ok good old Salisbury they has been able to reveal there's not the entire layout of it underground city using digital mapping technologies so I was completely non-invasive so we haven't had to go and dig up half of Salisbury to be able to really see underground see what the stuff looks like so he doesn't actually look at using technologies yet island using tech that's good as well cuz it means that no one's unlocked the curse so it doesn't mean Tony Robinson's out of a job but yes yeah yeah it a good run but is going we can see this back to about 5,000 years ago so it's good that we could using all these new tech to find things isn't it farming we're looking at old city's underground that's more little thing to listening to Taylor Swift yep I'll listen excited so yeah but that's the next new story well like smoothly into their be king of taylor swift rich now I knew what you wanted me to say yeah bob has fam is now on iOS and Luke is really tells mom yeah he's probably him you've probably never heard of Baba thing which is completely reasonable status of existence because it's not nearly as popular i think is many of the other streaming services but it's quite interesting because it's platform agnostic so what that means is you go to bobfm yeah and you sort of play a song through their streaming service and what that's doing is it's pulling the music from another platform so you can set up a playlist and some some of them will be sort of like pulling from YouTube with a music video some of them will be pulling from Spotify so the idea is you can make a playlist it has some stuff that's not Spotify some stuff that's not on soundcloud I think it's primarily Spotify SoundCloud and YouTube but it's pretty impressed about you because I think everything is on youtube because most artists have an official mmm channel page so what I believe just rip it and put on YouTube for fun yeah I think it will I don't know exactly how it the it finds it i don't know if it's all searching from some sort of youtube provide a database like video yeah yeah but I used it for a while now is pretty good though some songs I couldn't find any ac/dc or something through and then when I went to youtube but there was like an ac/dc channel or something along those lines but but it is a cool idea and it gets around the problem of taylor swift not being on spotify so the beatles if you had the Beatles or 15 it says it not ACDC it's been around for a for a short while I'm but yeah now it's got an iOS app so you pay for it then or would you if you were no sorry premium Spotify subscriber with that my body i link my account or well what I do know is that if you have an iOS device you have to have the Spotify app installed in order for it to work so i think yes in that case you would need to be a premium subscriber to use it on your phone so it's a bit kind of it's not like seamless or that smooth to be honest all that good mmm well i mean it's sort of like it it it's kind of if I rat if I couldn't find something on Spotify it might be where I would go instead of straight to YouTube for example it seems like the sort of thing that's going to be around until everybody sorts their head out about streaming service isn't it yeah disappear but for the meantime you know if you want to tell the Beatles or whatever then it's just one way of doing it on your phone okay cool and what's going on well that is a new Superman TV show oh yes well before there is no sign of Superman in it Desiree okay how that sounds great well you can tell them I will tell you what are you probably if those you're watching the video you'll see Russell Crowe on the on there on the screen there in Man of Steel by CNN's dad see anything to do with it he well he's not well let me tell you Luke let me know so he in malice till he plays Sigma's dad and this new TV show is called Krypton and it's set on Superman's home planet of Krypton and it's all about his family specifically his grandfather okay and so it's coming about history in the past of Krypton it so it's a it's so Superman isn't even in it or kal-el as he was known as I'm not Carl as you Carl yep who's friends with the piece of spider-man cut spoke john-john spider-man yeah I'm so yeah I mean it's it's a it's it's I don't know it's kind of an interesting idea but some i don't know i read an obstacle that's what a realistic well Peter de Silva says so we're planet of aliens with no powers and no Superman till its last day okay that would be the incredible climax of this show if you stick with it for all eight seasons or whatever in the lines everybody died yeah in the last episode everyone will die and this sort of super human being will with with immense power yeah will emerge and then it'll be 10 minutes again David Whitehead says Kryptonian teen angst I'll pass win soul says don't forget they are also the network that brought us the rebooted Battlestar Galactica there is hope as to cusan sci-fi yeah because when I saw this I thought like oh so they've DC has seen the incredibly good response to Gotham and decided to make that again but with characters unless well like I said I mean so the problem the problem that I have with this is it's it's produced well written and developed by a couple people including David Goyer who is the guy who wrote man of steel and there is a lot of Krypton stuff in in Man of Steel so yep he's presumably recycling that he's wilbert building on the mythology that he's kind of developed there which was kind of interesting but the thing is man of steel was terrible and David Goyer is literally the worst I mean he's like the go-to guy for these geek properties because he wrote The Dark Knight movie we worked and don't like movies he'd be previously worked on blade and all this kind of thing and he's currently he's just written as Batman vs Superman but he's for I mean Man of Steel absolute template I don't know if this is going to be any good but if you had Michael Shannon in it my BS appointments about this my big disappointment is that you wrote in your headline grin of Steel which I thought was genuinely what it was called which I thought sounds brilliant grin of Steel that's to know this definitely should reboot super ground that's what they should do get cydia and forget Gotham bring back super ground then the super grand banana man crossover if a 2020 absolutely yeah i can ask a geeky question yeah good um are all of the people on Krypton also Superman's or are they only Superman's because on earth the gravity is different and his son is it's another ground seriously it's the sun's rays yes so there would be Superman's if they went to if they went to it in fact I say not Superman's then a normal man's and von havoc on Krypton yeah their claims yet I regular everyday right working folk like you and me okay I thought maybe everyone was a Superman so ever so like it would be sort of like level the playing field everyone was really strong though just living together yeah in a world of the supermen who is the Superman the one-eyed man actually no he would be he'd be flattened absolutely luxury you witless thanks very much and finally one last story yes GTA 5 we all know about the controversy around GTA 5 and it's woman beating and wine why is this particularly flared up again now so there is little to the wider view yes so there has been a what's the word looking for here update no expansion pack no rerelease people giving signatures to ban some competition I / thank you petition was let go this what's to change in the game that's that's oh so recently there's a first-person view in Grand Theft Auto 5 now which allows you this is the HD green HD remake based upon and against one yet allows you not your character you're seeing through the eyes of your character so you are going out and theoretically stabbing women in the face or beating people up or having sex with prostitutes and then killing them and it's now all first person that's not my first person instead of you seeing a character do it which a lot people argue that is a bit big difference because no disconnect between Yoona character anymore yeah it is you doing his thing and yeah a petition was started unchanged at all which reach over 50,000 signatures and was successful in getting copies of GTA 5 pulled from Kmart and target in Australia right in response to that almost quite comically because they did it's a bit of a parody and never changed her petition came up which actually got more signatures to get the Bible banned from those supermarkets for the same reasons they they they quoted the violence against women and how it's okay to burn a man should be able to burn his daughter if she is a whore I'm it their words not mine and and how it's okay to stone them to death and stuff so they argue that the Bible is promoting similar violence against women I quite bad it's not arresting interesting point yeah yeah yeah actually then turned out of the target then pointed out that they don't actually sell the Bible so it should have done a little bit more research on their own campaign air before beginning really well this is I mean Australia is is quite tight on games aren't they they're cut they're quite they write down knots or violent games yeah they do they a little little more heavy-handed than other countries with some banning and censorship but this game is not banned in australia it's just it's just the shops have decided not to sell not to tell it yeah but it could be given their size it could be that more more shops do yeah well I mean there's loads of shops that sort of don't sell things like we were talking about this earlier it's like W there's there's some like magazines some extreme shall we say magazines that like wh smiths doesn't sell its not going on oh yeah okay yes I thank you you know it's not an it's not because those sort of magazines are necessarily sort of band or outlawed or anything it's just a gasm if you know where to look yeah on the rail railway so yeah pinned by the massive pressures so it's going to go completely over the head of everyone born after nineteen eighty-four lame i think really exactly what's a railway ill say um god I just tweaked my way to Birmingham but yeah yeah so I personally don't really see this as as like a extreme sort of active sure like censorship or anything like that I think that it was very much a bit of a parody bit of China just trying to prove a point with this with this second petition yeah and you know there's so many arguments you can have about when we're not going to try and decide here whether or not GTA 5 is right or wrong in what it does and so but there's obviously the argument that well the shop should be much more concerned about making sure that they're not selling to underage because it's an addled game it's all rated an 18 rated and is only it's designed for adults and for adults to buy but so many game shops they just do not they are not strict at all about selling it to a parents need to understand as well just because something's a video game doesn't it's not necessarily for you know they can't just don't buy a game and then just hand it straight so that's definitely not for kids this mark absolutely not gonna fight a final note on this I think if you are interested in the topic I would absolutely suggest you do a Google search on google.com for our gamespot colleague Danny O'Dwyer's excellent video on the subject which which is kind of a just video discussion piece around sort of this he says that this this kind of first-person mode in GTA 5 while he's a lot like long term gamer a big fan of the series he did make him feel guilt right and so like it is there is some stuffing than that's troubling yes I do a search for things like that gamespot found a games then they do all the games i actually don't like first person view I think it's too difficult anyway some point that's that's very nice I'll show you what what a reader saying about this actually we're not going to do it to you just if you want to have an argument between gamers and people who really love the Bible then yeah games if you will literally feel years taking off your life then go to read the comments on this story but that's entirely up to alright cool speaking of comments and stuff let's see what you guys been saying this week's feedback okay first of all we have a bit of correspondence from X of this parish Nate Langston thanks on it Andy that's your brother it is my brother good old mate like long-term podcast listeners will remember Nate and he's written to us yeah he says I know I wasn't on the podcast last week's this does make any sense to me but this is so we're having a little discussion about inflation and the humble space really crisp and you later Nate says the story there I listened intently to your discussion about the space rated crisp I to mourned the day these pocketable sacks of extraterrestrial nutrition crumbled under a blow delivered by the hands of economics like the mouth of a warrior pulverizing the crisp in question betwixt tongue and palate that is until the arrival of a messiah known singularly as tesco so what what happened was that space where the prices went up by 5p and death threats were sent up like this we had to trim this for length honestly no yeah once he gets going on the subject of crisps yeah you listen to about a tenth of this message it was really impressive one of the things you can get particularly passionate about right yeah so you're the poster the price went up five feet and then there was a huge outcry against this and the price winter was taking about down but there was a temporary and the place has since crept back up again of there no longer 10-3 crisps that is until until until Tesco arrived space Raiders were once again Nate write effectively a ten pence purchase the multi by was the saving grace of the 10p space Raider that's right which is best Nate thank you very much night thank you always good to it was good tip and again I cannot stress how much we have had to truncate that for a sort of time time constraints absolutely it really was the language really know yet he might now the gutter yeah cool and well snapping mike batt says why do birds suddenly appear when I'm near to you well he's got the title wrong there for a start yeah is close to you also Mike bats the well-known songwriter uh you wrote the the wombles song you think you think he'd you know pay more attention to the unit of the carpenters so thank you for your comment much thank you Mike check that you're not covered in grain Jeff Lucan says I'm still waiting for android lollipop for my nexus 7 2013 Wi-Fi I'm in the UK Sam we what a coincident yeah um yeah Oh Jeff Jeff lovely Jeff how much longer do I need to wait or am I just unlucky and so we lollipop is supposed to be coming to the nexus 7 2013 and 2012 i think ok um so the only of those we can really give is be patient and sort of check for updates because even when it's you'll getting this direct from google they do sort of roll it out in stages yeah so bruster's of updates i think it shouldn't be shouldn't be too long but then you know you may also be unlucky we just don't know it is annoying to have to wait though yes it is dan pointer says does small portable amps make any noticeable difference to mp3 files Andy uh no no if you are listening to low quality mp3 files if you've got really high quality ones or lossless files then yes and if you're playing through like a cheap phone but you probably aren't putting lossless files and cheap phone because they're massive files he probably got a high res audio player and it really has its own amp built in so you don't need it and some can upscale your music is certain amount but again only if you starting with a good file to begin with cool alright and one last question Phillip Thompson says hi after what has happened with the release plan for street fighter 5 do you think that something should be done about console exclusive games so anybody should do something something should be done bad mystic ville so a bit of background to this so street fighter 5 isn't coming to xbox one it's only going to be on ps4 and that is because Capcom insisted on open cross-platform plates listen this is the rumor anyway that's obvious and Microsoft isn't isn't interested in having games that are compatible it can be you can cross-platform play on web games flagged as rumor and that's something that Microsoft won't budge on Microsoft has snapped up a similar exclusive deal with rise of the Tomb Raider so understandably maybe a lot of gamers are annoyed that this much-anticipated title may not be coming out for things that they've paid hundreds of pounds for and so back to Philips question should something be done about console exclusive ok so I'm going to be annoyed I can absolutely understand why you'd be annoyed um I wouldn't say though that something particularly should be done because this isn't sort of i mean not like i've always got the back of kind of normal people instead of sort of like big montrose companies but these sort of deals do kind of keep the whole entertainment industry going like you see this every it's not it's not just games on consoles like with music we've already talked about like Taylor Swift is kind of not on Spotify yeah because you know that's just sort of something a record company has decided in movies you know certain movies only come out and certain like branches of cinema and you know stuff like that all those kind of distribution deals like everything like everything is kind of like since the netflix yeah netflix has exclusive well that's the guy sleeping you can hear is mega time are cutting us off so oh boy we're gonna have to decide it there that is it earning if i'm ever shuts up thank you for all your questions everybody marks mark nearly just dropped mega timer which would have killed us in our producer Mark II will never see just heroically threw himself a Collins duty behind the scene in many ways what's happening over there is much more interesting that's what's happening if only we could turn the cameras around we do actually have one that sort of rotates but it doesn't rotate that far I don't think I knew even if it did there's another camera in the way so maybe maybe in future weeks all right well thank you actually feedback everybody keep coming yes please keep contacting us emailing us at our email addresses on the bottle to look at it seen it UK podcast at CBS I comm coll right thank you very muchly thanks thank you and thank you heroic producer Mark who you will never see right roses you Christmas shopping by