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hello and welcome you're listening to the scene at UK podcast this is episode 415 for friday the 19th of december 2014 as Noddy Holder famously screamed it's Christmas and we have a ho ho whole lot of exciting stuff lined up including bt's 12 billion pound Christmas gift to itself and a look back at the most exciting events of 2014 some of the coolest gadgets as well now i'm luke westaway filling in for return home joining me in our high-tech London studio this week is me and the oil the one that isn't you or rich that's right the other one that's on the podcast sometimes hello it's me now it is just the two of us this week I'm afraid because rich is already basically decided that is Christmas even though it isn't yet we're still working and we've already had our christmas lunch so we're massively full of turkey and Christmas cheer and as always we're filming the podcast so do tune in on cnet or youtube com / cnet if you don't mind seeing what it would look like if two of the wise men ate the third and all right but for now Andy why don't you start us off with the news so some exciting news this week as BTW has confirmed that it's currently in plans right wait okay to buy ee what I know but it is huge I don't but this they're both so big do you have I know you have so many questions and you're right to be shocked as were we all when this was when this came out so yeah it's Sam we originally thought actually BTW was looking to buy 02 and with a lot talk that it was in discussions to tip i owe to you because it basically want to firm up its mobile app from the top cbt is is the big hitter for home phones and landlines and home internet and stuff but it's mobile offering really got one has got want it basically wants to just instead of developing one from the ground no he just wants to buy one so why not buy the biggest which is EE has the biggest customer database it has the largest network reach i believe and so it's put a price on a year of 12.5 billion pounds that's a lot of my whole lot of cash honestly honestly I ok so is it it is a thing that's really going to happen or is it or is it not really a things guys there there is some debate because right now this is only there is only talks at happening where is this discussion going on and one of the issues is whether or not the industry watchdogs people like Ofcom and so on are actually going to let it go through because really in business it's not good to have one company so big like BTW having such a stranglehold on on everything which it would do it would have it's such a big presence in in home stuff and also in mobile well yeah I mean an EE of course recently trying to get into things like TV and stuff so and BTW already has a TV exactly yeah this would be one mega telco that did your home broadband and your mobile everything and they'll be able to basically so much just destroy everyone else and and so in interpreters of fair play these watchdog it's kind of a bit skeptical right now so i mean is this is this really going good this going to happen is always it not going to happen well lots of things there are there are some discussions like it could be that they just block it right it could be but they said no you can't do it and then BTW may go back to trying to buy 02 as was originally the plan that that that could happen yeah I madrid airport 02 was smaller so maybe it'll have fewer objections there but analysts have said that Sam in fact I couldn't quotes as it combines a UK market leader in fixed line with a number one mobile operator we believe it is unlikely that ofcom would block for deal but the combined entity could be forced to dispose of some spectrum that was an analyst who I were speaking to the beeb yes to the old be there so basically the idea there is that BTW would be allowed to buy EE but it would have to give up some of what it has Z has loads of spectrum right they have to sort of gift some out to try and make things a bit more fair but i think this I've got Finn this all has to go like through European regulator basically it's really early days it is early days yet price may change as well because particularly if if they do have to break up he a little bit in terms of in terms of what BTW is getting out of that deal yeah presumably then it will also say well actually if we're not getting what we feel is 12 and a half billion pounds of value from e.e yeah let's change a price if the price changes and the deal may then change it there are so many things that still could happen and winning swimming in variables yes but that's some look exciting for next year is it yeah all right more importantly more important buyer what if you are any customer is this is something if BTW buys your the company that makes your phone happen yeah is that going to mean a big thing for you mmm yes and no um it is going to be a big deal and this is one of the major unknowns from you know from ops ii most of our listeners and perspective is well what's going to happen and probably the biggest chains are going to see is this a different logo on the bill that arise every month because you are you are tied into a night contract you are when you take up his contracts or 12 or 24 months you know there they are legal contracts and so what BTW won't be able to do as far as we believe in the moment is is take over your contracts because it's buying e and its assets and the contracts in a database of customers it can't come along and turn your 20 panama of contract into a 30 panama contract just because it wants to be in breach of contract what we don't know yet is whether or not changing the owner of the contract would make the contract itself void so whether or not when the deal happens you could say oh well I don't want my contract anymore I'm going to go to three well as you've changed I presumably BTW would only want to buy EE if it was keeping all this customers I want to it wouldn't it it probably wouldn't be part of the deal yeah any risk that it would sort of let everyone just sort of move away absolutely and virat there are already in if you read your contract their pages and pages long for are a number of little clauses and small prints in there that basically mean that when things like I price fluctuations because they do happen in fat you know with Hadoop team mota balance over the years yeah they recognize it I like you a couple of pence per minute which you know it's a bit annoying but it is even got leeway having a they're allowed to raise the price by a certain amount yeah and I really believe that revelation yeah and i think the behind the scenes corporate infrastructure is basically something that you can't use as a reason to get out they would have to be an actual change to your contract itself that make sense okay so obviously i'll tell you who else because as you mentioned their work this was strongly rumoured that BTW might be considering buying 02 yes 02 or e yeah so i think this looks is kind of bad news for 02 because now kind of everyone knows that it wants to get bought but it didn't get bored and actually kind of when you think about 02 it doesn't really feel like it's been very competitive in the last sort of year year and a half or something it's not exactly been the most sorta yeah they're with 4g every years or anything like that so i mean is this is is the thing to take away from this maybe that maybe something is going to happen 202 I mean well-lit game puzzle me also but it but it I mean whether we can speculate as long as we want and that sort of thing to the case okay yeah we cuz that's exactly what to do um you know it could have been bought before and I don't think it's going to damage its name or anything because I think the only people who are really going to know about this are the industry analysts like ourselves and our listeners who really know about 02 maybe wanting to be poor and as long as it's not changing its own service but you're right it hasn't been particularly competitive and everyone we've got three offering 4g for free to all its car users and an e like you say getting into things like TV and stuff as well as part of its i'm offering 02 isn't quite isn't quite doing there the same boat stuff so it will see what happens next year okay what else what are the news well we had flight disruptions of quite epic proportion we didn't and we all we did how we did on friday and that was following a technical failure of some of the basically the airplane control systems right in the airports so basically no planes could take off or land in London air space for quite quite a few hours we just had all very concerning it has all been fixed now apparently Luke you know a bit more about what actually went wrong yeah so what happened was this way it was air traffic control at Nats n 80s they said that there was a technical problem relating to basically their computer systems in Sonic which meant that good old swanukken olds well not good old Swan eggs so I'm not letting the side down frankly but they yes wanek um well I mean how long's piece of string I mean this is just one of those questions is literally impossible to answer i take my google c googling worse wanna kids now all right well will you find out where we're on it well you while you're on that let me tell you that they actually they thought that the whole system was going to be offline for a lot longer than it actually was yeah then originally was talked about so they actually fixed it reasonably quickly but when you think about how many planes are in and out of London every day just to give you a sense of perspective in 2013 Heathrow handled an average of one thousand two hundred and eighty six flights per day where say when you think about sort of a couple of hours offline yeah yeah it meant that there was huge disruption as anyone who maybe was trying to fly in or out of an airport that involved London over the weekend will have known like my girlfriend who was flying mere hours after that happened and it was a momentary bit of panic in my head about is that going to be ok Swanna kinsa dently is down on the south coast is near Southampton lovely so there you go if it's the same sonic which I assume it is that's right yes um alright that's good but it did all get fixed so I did look at fixed and things are ok now and yeah things are ok now thanks things it's okay to end on that note Andy yeah I don't need to put in a bit more of a spin just for the sake of it I can just let that sit nicely like a cool comforting bath of cream right let's just let's just leave that in there for a moment what's blackberry bindu hell has it been doing something library has been doing something what is done is today launched a new phone it's called the classic and let me tell you why classic blackberry classic blackberry well is because it is very much a classic blackberry it has gone back to its roots on this in fact that is a headline of the review that you may have just seen on screen I'm looking at a picture of it now it is I mean you use of me right now yeah my lovely visage you look at that beautiful mug you don't need to be looking though to be honest out the video feed for this because if you picture a blackberry that's what they've made it's exactly that it has a three point I believe 3.4 Scott inch square screen physical keyboard below it's got fairly sort of mid-range specs like a dual-core processor 720p display it has the physical keyboard and that is obviously what everybody has always been asking for from blackberry phones like when he tried to do an all touch screen with the z10 yeah nothing did not sell well nobody liked it nobody wanted it wasn't what blackberry users ever asked for so it's really is going back to go about a classic form of this and it hasn't gone for the high-end carbon weave and metal thing that the q10 occu 30 one of the two and try to do that was phone was really rather expensive so this is a bit more does the job it's for the classic users it basically a new bold and not even that new just the bold re-release for late 2014 I mean this was the phone that didn't work the first time so and so now it's a few years later returned to its root but you think it might work and is that right well I think so it's actually it's now knowing what its audience what I'd apparently what its audience once is quite nice and it's basically what it used to do right because what we've seen interestingly from blackberry recently is of course the passport which is the square blackberry phone completely square with it with the wide keyboard and when we first saw that thing for just ridiculous but actually kind of makes a lot of sense because it is super tanish and super targeted here towards X Excel documents and word word users and stuff because that's exactly what it's designed to do its for business and for basically nothing else I mean a blackberry seems to have given up on the mainstream but you know if it can carve out a niche if it can keep selling phones to whoever the people are who want a perfect square phone for Excel spreadsheets here and and and on and on and on and on then you know survival is victory right in the in the in the difficult world quite a buzz this I mean it's them it's not even them yeah it's absolutely going out for a niche but then is a dedicated core of business users and nice I mean gasps the street saw the big markings definitely enough to keep it and keep it going and if you're in target things it's also directly for that it's also a niche that sort of blackberry is struggling to keep as well because you know more and more offices are like hey brain and I phone you yeah you want your own phone you want all your apps because that's the main problem why blackberry can't go after and like the broad audience of people because he doesn't doesn't have the app support people want that that's why Android doing well in in budget phones well karma underscore guns 21 says haters will hate no matter what BB is the best and here to stay is it the best yep it's the best and it's here to stay outdoor fellow meanwhile says an enemy should know when it has been beaten and surrender rather than continue to send soldiers to their certain deaths blackberry you have been beaten stop sacrificing your soldiers in a pointless effort to try and stay relevant just lie down and die show some on already and that your final few faithful supporters be absorbed into an army with a chance of achieving some level of victory and success that Battlement very next yeah that comment went on as well and I probably the bigger right to stop it there and yeah yeah I don't think a sacrifice nobody's dying is just yeah people people still do on blackberry they also might bring name around unless they want it Liam have it so we like blackberry now it's the underdog nobody gets to be staffed isn't it like blackberries now the underdog we have the same with Nike we wanted them to do well but now it's microsoft name all over the phones like do we want that goodness seriously do we goodness we fickle okay i'm alright so that's the news um and that was looking at this next week but now we're going to be looking back a whole lot further over the last 12 months it's the big picture and we're going to do the Year in Review so brace yourself well what a year it's been we've seen smartphone development finally slowed down letting other exciting gadgets finally get a word in we'll get to those in a moment but we've also been asking ourselves some really big questions about how tech relates to modern life especially here in the UK this has been a year of big questions hasn't handy it has it yes so a feature that I am now renaming to Luke's big questions why don't you tell me one of the one of the conversations has been dominating the tech world okay well one of the big things and everybody will probably know of heard of it's from headlines everything is right to be forgotten the right to be forgotten right to be forgotten now it sounds like a big term and it is because why it's one of Luke's big questions oh that's why cool okay now I understand what you're doing with that article cool so basically what it is is that under new EU regulations it allows a person to request a bit an article about them can be removed from google search results now that has sparked quite a lot of controversy and because like most things of the internet there are arguments on both sides so on the one hand for example if a man had committed say an assault in the 90s which was written about online then that man may have since served his punishment and and right these wrongs and his you know is apologetic for he's done and he wants to put that incident behind him and move on Oh for example if he was wrongly accused one dude they would still be news articles so you know linking him to a crime I didn't commit yeah which could be affecting maybe if it's going for jobs maybe finding this stuff absolutely you know so that is a completely understandable yeah um sorry yeah um yeah the others around on the phone other side and argues that it will allow individuals and also companies to request articles and to be removed about them that a negative peel the show that they can basically control what in the public eye so for example there being a lot of stories particularly in Britain about an MP sex scandals expenses scandal and all this sort of thing and these are important to be in the public eye and to remain in the public eye too so we're informed about what the government's and you know what MPs doing politicians in this stuff and and yet these are also resort of articles that could be in line to be removed upon request by the people and which a lot of people have argued that shouldn't happen that's basically an abuse of the system what I think is really interesting about this has been Google's reaction because you you very very fairly put across both sides of the argument that so yeah I can sort of see both sides of it i mean i guess like on a on a personal level I guess I falls somewhere in the middle like I mean no one wants sort of like excessive censorship or anything like that but on the other hand it seems reasonable to me that if you know if there's information about you online that sort of isn't representative of who you are what you've done then you should be able to ask Google to take that down but google has not reacted well to this so they called the verdict disappointing when it came I think it was in May May was the original EU decision and then a few months later google revealed which countries made the most requests for result changes and 12,000 came from the UK which were which is a collection of requests that referred to about 44,000 URLs thought overall requests made across europe google said that fifty three percent were delisted as asked which sort of suggests that there are a lot of people asking for things that Google would like are no well that's the other word thing about like Google's using its best judgement yeah exactly and that's like what you do but there's a lot of things it's quite cagey about the systems and about as the process that goes through to remove this so you can put into submission but we don't really know exactly how the conversation then goes about removing this and who's on this panel because I would think this if it's an EU thing this should really go to a third-party panel but perhaps somebody to do with like libel law and the courts like it could be a court matter rather than google itself making this decision because we have to basically trust at google's doing the right thing and is it removing it for the right reasons well trusting that google's doing the right thing is basically what the whole world is spent the last decade sorceress well yes right i hope the other word think about this eh it seems to be part of a trend of American or at least very very sort of like it in international kind of non-european countries kind of coming up against these sort of roadblocks in Europe or kind of in the UK like it another example this year has been attacks we've been talking a lot about Google and Apple and Amazon just day make some of the tech companies who sort of operates you know through Island taking advantage of a like a text loophole that means that they operate in the UK a lot but don't pay very much tax went on oh yeah and you know it's like is that is that they're I mean they're sort of I suppose they're obeying they're obeying the law yeah it's as it is written it's very much a gray area that isn't it because technically technically they're not breaking any laws but morally of course they're breaking a whole number of moral issues and and that's you know is this is this right but then even that there are which we discussed at length or there are both sides to that if Apple and Amazon and whoever completely pulled out of Ireland because of changes in tax codes and whatnot then that's a big member of business and jobs so that a UK yeah I'm sorry maybe I'm well I mean what day though who knows what price you don't know but the I mean the argument that sort of made in favor of this is like we need to encourage businesses to sort of operate in the UK yeah but you know like if they're not paying any tax do we really well ya see ya all right so although interestingly on that subject this in the last few months we have seen one of those tax loopholes which is brilliantly called the double Irish and has been has been closed yeah so you know more exciting change yeah I'm all right that's a pointing part of of the years trends I think that's kind of a negative side it's not all it's not all bad it's not all bad what else is happening ND well any is there any glimmer of light glimmer of light let's just pin the last year please that's something actually when I put my head back there was a nice clean Reviver comes down to my face then so they were which I think illustrates into my next point quite well and is of course about 4G and the 4g basically has really really taken off this year means been around since I think 2012 when II first launched 4g only in london in couple of the places i yeah yeah but it says this year we've really seen it spread out all of the major networks now have a 4g offering that have either rolled into their existing plans so three for example has just roll it in it doesn't try to anymore that's been great and we've seen it arrived in so many more cities believe how many z and now and i always liked all of them we get a press release and they're really sort of Yoos tiny town of those little towns that sort of yeah yeah don't no one even knew was there even people who lived there what we have 4g and we live in a town what's happening who you um well in april one analyst firm said that 4g is being adopted globally faster than any previous telecommunications technology yes nice and in that same month in fact ee which we've already discussed boasted it had loads 2.9 million customers to Expedia services that was in April and that figure hit 5.9 million in October's so those figures are really surprising because when you think about what 4G actually brings what better internet connection brings like it's not just a service its access to all your over services having 4G may mean that you can skype your family in different country whereas on 3g maybe had to deport connection we really want this you know it's so it's accessing so many other things i think also what's been really cool is that we're now seeing the budget networks and like a giffgaff yeah and staff you offer just super basic cheap sim only plans also getting on board with 4g because when 4g first arrived on we were quite negative about it particularly towards EE sorry always sorry yeah because it was so expensive are you satisfied with cuz ii because you're right last year e launched its 4g network it was really really expensive as a luxury it was a luxury ride sharing that thing and it was they had a mega premium strapped onto it because you're the only network that was selling it are you content now Andrew oil in December 2014 do you think that AE is more reasonable are you disappointed with the competition I do think it is more reasonable i'm not completely satisfied okay not completely alright but i am almost there yeah okay not specifically for me but from everyone else because they were three with what they've done with 4G is gray e still is the pricier of the bunch but it does have the scope to offer I signed up to Vodafone when it was offering various deals with like extra data and Spotify subscriptions which I actually sure if it's still doing so that basically they sought my net my contract price down quite a lot i'm steve spotty files I was paying 10 pounds a month anyway so by getting that for free basically made my contract 10 quid cheaper so this is now TV as an option as well though yes it is anything at Sky Sports 2 so um yeah I love 4g I mean I can download an episode of sons of anarchy between 22 points on my on my commute to train stations Wow yeah in like in minutes isn't that underground though using Virgin Media's underground London Wi-Fi network no it's not and that's terrible because the login screen pops up all the time but we're not going to talk about that and easy don't bring it up again oh no that's over ground on three actually although yeah I've got an unlimited data thing I wouldn't be down yeah sure stuff like do you find how do you find three and since it's got afford your screen two and four ah I quit you quit I quit quit you quit he's wandered off um what was I what you actually asked him who knows I was knocked off by how about showing yeah how do you find cuz I I had capacity problems with three before with 3g only yeah how do you fight now people are moving on to 4G do you find that it's a bit more stable yeah actually I've found it pretty good this year but you know we sort of live and working in central London which yeah means we sort of are in the place that has priority of coverage only of course really excited me what I thought was great which I am doing this your hands are going all excited when I went to see Lincoln Park at the o2 a couple of weeks ago 02 sold out and it was massive huge everyone was there and i still had full 4g signal on vodafone and it worked hmm in a 50,000 seat stadium and as never happened to me before even on 02 and at the o2 it like i can try and send a tweet or something saying this is fun and it won't satna just wait just people tell me people trying to do it I love amazing not brilliant I love how deep in your like body tissues and bone marrow your geekiness is you come home and it's like oh how was a Lincoln part giggling well Ollie it was it was absolutely incredible i had 4g signal by the time and it was consistently working i was watching homes under the hammer on iplayer and is that BBC heaven henrich off for no yeah well you know what you could have found only watch cooking shows you have found that out downloaded it and watched it in the time it took for milk in park to play the songs that made your childhood come alive the do permit hybrid fear is brilliant yep alright so those are Luke's big questions or but what our Luke's big products what are the biggest products of the year Andy tell me some of them well that's actual gadgets that happened I mean obviously it's been a year as every year as a year of amazing products and flagships you had a new iPhones from Apple we've had new iPad have had a whole host of things galaxy s fine yes fine of course le Algieri we've had the reviews like Sony I'll train who cheeky dad look that's that's one too many at least um although i am actually using one of them so i shouldn't argue too much but what I want to talk my particular yeah first of all it is the year of Android wear and other wearables like that's we had it we've had it launched I've had it coming to our hands and let me leave again quite quickly welcome into our hands that showed your wrist saturation okay all right what's your favorite and favorite is the LG G watch our because that to me is really what Android wear should be it is it looks like a watch it looks nice it's round with taught like this it's great Sultan do a lot but it's only the beginning for Android wear next year i think is gonna be very exciting yeah for wearables we have of course seen the Apple watch be announced but not out but yes on set so I which might include it because that is not a 2014 product as a 2015 products all right or maybe 2016 if it goes you know we'll wait for that in the back or maybe even the worst next 2015 although certainly the best um next up galaxy note edge Frank samsung cool reason being because finally we're seeing a bit of experimenting in phone this is why i liked the blackberry passport it's not just I ok finally there the fight well you know the s5 Samsung's had all four sales of that and it's had drops in profit and market share and all this stuff because people were just a bit bored that it's the same thing but again and the edge comes along edges of it I know we're not I know it's about the nice edge i mean the edges of the galaxy is plastic like chrome fit plus if it chips off it's not a great phone it does everything you want it's just it needs a lot of refinement they actually the galaxy alpha with the metal body really to them really really nice phone that hope would see more of that from Samsung so yeah the edge the edge is cool we've you've played the world we've had a retarded we've had a play we've had a go our reviewers online what did we give it did we like give it four stars we've said it's not really good it was an interesting idea I think it needs some more software to work with this edge thing but it's just good to see something a bit different see Samsung actually trying to innovate slightly even if it's something that doesn't work because it's try things like putting a projector and its phone before and something has always been one to basically if there's a product that can exist it will make it and throw everything at the wall because it's got the budget to make it in five different sizes exactly and see what happens and the edge actually you know it's just it is different and it's quite cool and it's a you know you take mine out in the purple people ask you about it's unusual a bit different alright so that's watches and fines yeah else drones Luke drones is what else throw no yes roan mg um yes particularly i'm going to talk about the DJI inspire 1 sorry so I was CEO me we've seen these brilliant flying machines coming together before so previously drones for filming and things and to do like these really amazing aerial shots well well even if they were dreadful you had to basically rent a helicopter and have a massive budget to get a pilot yeah or BBC started using like there's really big six or eight rotor things that cost about forty thousand pounds and they've got cinema level cameras strapping Eve but now we're seeing from companies like DJ I with their and phantom vision to drone which is about seven eight hundred pounds i think easy to fly little quadricopter with a camera and you can fly flew it over Chatsworth MO and over Chatsworth has got this amazing footage she doesn't know where you could have could have got before and the inspire one is their latest one that we've just announced and they brought it into our office in fact some flit around very cool and this thing shoots in for Kane it's got stabilization on it and it's easy to fly easy to use and it's bringing this really cool filming techniques and stuff that you normally ultra pro level fit for making blockbuster films into the hands of me and you like to only be given that for Christmas and it's already yeah yeah hasn't all been good news of drones we have also had stories about people flying those same drones on to like Heathrow Airport and getting in the way of planes which of course causes national military panic which is bad which is bad things to do so don't do that oye yeah anyway so dr john jones home and we've also there's one more thing on the list is one more thing of a list and that is oled tvs because for me one of the things i'm very happy about is a twist and stop seeing new innovations in 3d and other dodgy gimmicks that I don't think had anything to viewing experience stop trying to see both sides of the 3d thing now we can all admit that it was just well yeah that it was a bit stupid and OLED is actually all about image quality is about having vibrant colors it's bright black levels are black so you get high contrast good-looking panels and you've seen plenty and efferent CES yeah you really like them I'm a huge lead fine actually so is David Katz me who is a sort of TV review head honcho in the u.s. I'm here reviewed a an LG I think OLED TV this year and the the headline in the review was best picture ever so actually I mean we're hearing the sort of not everyone is getting that into our LED that may be sort of Samsung's not as interested as it once was no but yeah I like other TV want to watch so you know it's nice that things are sort of maybe sort finally moving in the old TV well okay so but I asked them I actually also asked on Twitter what a bunch of people's favorite products of the area to get a bit feedback what is this so we had Chris well it's chris with the k hi krista the cake was excited about the Microsoft band the iphone 6 and the samsung galaxy note 4 okay actually been out for so I had this metal edge so that's quite cool Christopher Finn actually agreed sever DJ inspire one is the thing he's most excited about this year okay ben says is still loving the pebble that's the eating smart watch the galaxy owner Galaxy Note edges novel all right we agree with that Eunice says Apple watch and the innumerable upgrade to 3d printing they're actually really printing is a good point I've seen loads of cool things coming out they've been 3d printed and jack says the spork game changer not really 2014 products hashtag game changer no yeah well at 14 was the year where this book really came into its own into it yeah yeah this is this isn't into sports yeah Andrew Marsh has been Nexus 6 6 yeah we have a new yeah okay all right big phone Freddie says android wear as a whole so all right yeah yeah okay it's cool the mid-70s that's not a name that's this but it is it's a time period is the best to handle this person is chosen yeah is the Roku streaming stick alright and Vidya nan says the blackberry passport is the best announced phone this year alright so yeah here we go and that's loads of cool gadgets and if we've forgotten any if there's anything particularly exciting that you think has happened this year do let us know I email address is cnet UK podcast at CBS I com or you can find us on Twitter or Facebook and we love hearing from you yes all right that's enough looking back now let's do a Christmas quiz all right now I know what you're thinking how are we gonna do quiz with just two people but I thought those things it's Christmas can we really do no quiz can we leave the listening with no quiz at all and the answer of course was yes my Christmas present actually from you as well was I want a guaranteed win on the quiz yeah and I'm the only one here and you want to get that guaranteed win by default although your you won't you are not playing for a point on the leaderboards oh you are playing for a mystery Christmas gift that I'll give to you if I'm happy with your answers okay so here's what's going to happen i'm going to give you quickfire questions about Christmas and about the technology of this year a new sense of them as quickly as you can okay you ready the modern figure of Santa Claus is derived from the Dutch figure what's his name it's a sin to class oh yeah of course that's all right the difference in inches between the iphone 6 and the 6 plus is point eight yes very very good good Matt in 1993 mr. blobby had a Christmas number one hit what was the song called um I bought that single I had a video of me singing along to that we all bought the single Andy what was the singles name this is really just mr. Bobby yes it was congratulations well done very good the Amazon fire phone ringing we reviewed it this year how many stars did we give it oh dear three correct very good and fine I would've given her in November of this year elves met in Bangkok to break the record for the most elves in one place how many elves were there a million yes there were a million know that I'm sorry it's not that i really get satisfied the answer was 1792 that's the most they could do according to Reuters I mean that's that's a reasonable amount of El it's not you can just go to if you like did elf live with at the own to you'd get more people dressing up as elves there who would go to Elsa it doesn't matter it doesn't you did very well Andy I thank you I thought I did um what do I win is it mr. Bobby what you win is this elf hat oh you can wear when we do the feedback so please it's on I hope everyone is feeling suitably festive all right you are listening to the audio version make sure you saw find the feed on YouTube here because my goodness is pretty happy about this it's just della okay right it's time to move on that's enough Christmas now let's find out what you guys have been saying in the old feedback okay Dave Lester says where does not come from like right out the gate there Dave with a really really great question um I don't know that comes in your nose I don't think anyone really understands it no I think the important thing is just not to panic and not to ask any questions yeah leave it be yep exactly mer at chabad AG says best uses for an old computer from 2001 2 2004 era back when XP was the bee's knees best uses for an old computer potentially use it as a just a media server actually you could maybe hook it up to your TV and just use it to play and play video files to do to do heavy lifting know all things locally yeah you'll be glad to know that in fact Cena has written exactly this article 5 great uses for your old windows computer was that one of them suddenly wrote in 2011 it was actually means the nervous center of a media center you could also think about using it as a network media storage or a home security monitor maybe or just something as simple as a backup storage all good and suggestion also whoa Chris Roebuck addresses Murat and says a try keep odd or Ubuntu of our mod what is keep odd well then fact Chris Roebuck follows that comment up with actually that's my question have you used keep odd or similar I've just bought one for an old computer but not really used it yet seems to work pretty well for basic stuff I'm not sure about more demanding apps so keep odd is this IndieGoGo project that raised more than forty thousand dollars which is very impressive and it's kind of like a little operating system on a stick it's supposed to call something just seven dollars I think and the idea is you'll be able to take an old discarded or potentially non-functional pc and revive it and kind of make it usable and i think the idea as well as it people will be able to sort of share one old computer but because they sort of maybe we'll have their own sticks they can get their own okay experience through it Jonica yesyes good actually Chris after saying Ivan I haven't used one no but I do we should have interested too what else have we got Mike bat says why do birds suddenly appear when you're near I actually keep birdseed in my pocket so they can smell it yeah well that's that answer then very concise Andrew well done Andrew Rimmer says no questions to ask except to say a big thank you for all the insight and reviews throughout the year happy Christmas and a great new year all right I think there's a lovely feedback point to end on and of course the Christmas to you too Andrew yes happy Christmas Andrew and to all of our listeners unto all of our viewers and to all a good night but wait that's not actually the end if you want to send us to a bit as seen at UK podcast as CBS icom can see the email address on screen now um okay that is it for this week and in fact for this year o sino the podcast will be returning in 2015 I mean 2015 sounds very futuristic that's the year when back the future gets its hoverboards yeah we'll probably next time you see us we'll be sliding slowly out of shot as a hoverboard tilt unwieldly dia we fail to control them actually beginning of the year you'll be in CES as well seeing some of the best tech launchers for the year because rail in vegas right the juicer mark and I who you will never see are going transatlantic to find all of the coolest new technology Sookie stay tuned to seen it in early January to see what's happening at CES because it's going to be really cool and I'm sure that's gonna be the first thing we talk about when we come back all right thank you very much Andy thank you Luke and thank you to myself I think I did an adequate job and thank you to our producer Mark who you will never see a right we're off to do some really really last-minute Christmas shopping goodbye you