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2015-02-12
hello and welcome you are listening to see that UK podcast and this is episode 421 for friday the 13th of februari 2015 walls have ears your samsung TV is eavesdropping on your conversation the apple watch will get you off your ass before your laziness literally kills you and the first up onto phone is on sale for a limited time only you lucky people I'm rich trinoma joining me on haight upon us to do this week is and the oil hello you came to me first off nice I know yeah I get to say hello slightly earlier look you can totally scoop him in what you say is well ah alright something ah no I ruin it for it right look I'm try and beat that drives away uh casual I've a late supper perfect let's kick off this and I think you fellows from the 90 where's the beef catch the wave Oh cowabunga that's good news well if you have a samsung smart TV there may well be that that TV is listening in your private conversation your living room and sharing it with the world now good well no and that's you know what we found out a while ago looking at the terms and conditions of samsung things it's a bit frightening really mean what if it's listening to private secrets and then giving out a way to advertisers and what not but before you get too worried to Luke I can tell that you are getting a little bit worried eyebrows are accelerating upwards in line and rightly so but those eyebrows can actually come down to a more standard level yeah regular k so what this actually about what it was something tv's doing so samsung smart tvs they have voice activation voice control so you can you can say things you know like go to BBC or you can tell it to do whatever you want and it will be able to listen to you and listen to those voice commands yeah but what was found out in some of the fine print it says and i quote please be aware that if you're spoken words include personal or other sensitive information that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third-party through use of voice recognition well that sounds pretty terrible right I feel stupid now for making up a song out of my credit card numbers well Andy I mean so they've actually changed their policy so yes so now that policy has been reworded i think in response to because this just came out as a bit of an errand right absolutely yeah but using this is a good idea that you think we actually need this well I do yeah I think this is important tech because the end of a day is not listening to all your conversation feeding all of that back because it would the end of a day you'll be listened to hours and hours and hours of everybody's conversation all the time and what's anybody going to do with that job but the good thing is is that if you have these devices are always listening it means that you can always give them orders you can always say you know k do this and xbox on because the xbox one of course had there's bit of an outcry then when it transpired that would be always listening and always watching really and with with things like voice control you don't want to have to physically go and turn something on and then get a controller to do something and go into settings and activate voice control use voice control the whole point is that you can still walk into rooms a cool Xbox on let's do this samsung on yeah well as you see that's kind of a good thing I only hear that disagree because and I do think this is pretty shaky stuff yeah for like for one thing this is also happening in a post NSA revelations thing well yeah I think we've all realized that actually maybe he's the worst case scenario stuff without personal data is actually happening yeah um so you know if there's a bit of an outcry about Samsung being like oh FYI don't because with this we're collecting it and wisdom of doing a lot of stuff with it don't worry about it but you know just like just try and keep it light in the living room you know don't confess to any crimes anything is fine ok ok hit back you know that that that to me does sound suspicious I don't like the idea and also like I think at the end of the day it's not like it's not like this is a feature that's worth giving up that privacy for either like like voice like Andy said the voice recognition on these TVs on the Xbox non-syrian stuff it's not like something that's always listening for your voice commands it's like someone who's half listening but you're talking to someone well and they sort of zoned out so you're like Xbox on so mum like I do you in all that even now yeah what this late I just I'm sending some tech at present I think the problem is Izzy the brolly map what oh you've run about volume volume up no no problem ah that's called mute there's a super sorry I wasn't listening ah but it's an issue here right it's not so much that it's listening all the time though because obviously this could this conflicting pins Manus yeah good idea it's more that it's sending it to the third party so who are we talking about this third party so it's nuanced okay is the company that does it and they they are a voice recognition yeah they're they're about voice recognition to their about using these two why do they want to hear listening on our private conversations loose lips sink ships and all right what are they worth yeah that's some laughs inner they're trying to sink the ship step well knew what nuance is a voice recognition company so companies that like Samsung that use voice recognition in their products that voice data gets sent off to a third party I believe Cirie users and you want although that hasn't been officially like a firm and that that company sort of crunches all the noises yeah and spits out the words it's like a rough approximation not volume or whatever and and then sends it back okay so you know and what do it wouldn't that sense it is a third phone well something i will say that samsung has updated it so its policy on this to say that isn't that it's not the wording is different i will i will i'll read this app to you it says samsung will collect your interactive voice commands only when you make a specific search request of a smart TV by clicking the activation by the toilers to you can also turn this setting off so if you go onto on to see that you'll find and ask what's ethical cool it's called how to turn off Samsung's voice activation fee you look at look from just shatter your laptop then it'll be like I was listening the whole time and I've already opened it yeah what are we to say about this one really quickly well broadly speaking and tried to find a few balanced comments on this but there aren't any really am because paranoia is rampant among our commenters apparently yes but is it paranoia Justin are they actually how to get you it's not paranoia if they're actually oh that's good cer 99 says the possibilities for misuse of conversations far outweigh the advantages of this feature I would not pay extra for this feature I'm doing air quotes with my voice there okay because I sure as heck wouldn't trust or use it as is meanwhile candied ape says note to self don't buy anything from Samsung damning and jg hangin says for one thing that's really disturbing however what doesn't anymore with all this smart home stuff out there pretty much everything you say and do is tracked i'll stick with old-school appliances thanks oh well alright then grandad I don't stick with old-school appliances because we had this rubbish computer in my first school and all it could do was make this turtle move around it sounds like he couldn't even do that very well you have to give it loads of instructions it was a coding game though the point was that you give it a stir like a step down from a regular turtle which only move one space left we also had like a rumba that you could that you could code you could sort of put all the instructions in the Rumba and you could be like okay from it wasn't remember but like I know you had a house cleaner lame at the kitchen clean the kick oh it was more like move it was like you could make the robot go say eight feet forward and then rotate a certain number of degrees and then go back it wasn't cleaning I was just just wandering around making Lauren s if anything she teased makes on the side to grab cables and every 50 feet it would cough out a big like a chocolate dislike little glitter yeah LEGO pieces and take the back off your hole punch so all the open polls will just be scattered all over the room and special sensors for like white leather remember this it's red wine has some treatable anyway I'm going to move on to the apple watch now if I may because Tim Cook has been talking about the Apple watch which is due to come out sometime in April and tim has a war on sitting and in fact he says sitting is the new cancer or you know some pretty much means being big big words there his point being is was watching to do about it if you're sitting down to them well the watch is going to vibrate and tell you basically to get moving get up off your ass and go and do some things I'm seeing in this chair wait so like it sort of buzzes every now and again to be like you sat down for a bit so did you mean to it looks like you're having a sit-down you got something really important going on in that chair is that why yeah that sounds like quite a nagging to me that it's gonna you know if you sit for a while that this watch is gonna tell you although having said that though we looked into this studies have linked excessive sitting with being overweight and obese type 2 diabetes some types of cancer and premature death so there you go is thought to slow the metabolism and yet there's a piece of research that was published that we found with from the NHS involved almost 800,000 people found that there was a ninety percent increase in death caused by cardiovascular events with among people who sit but much less I lose that is why we do our podcast standing up exactly that Lance is that question otherwise we look so damn healthy all its keepers there is also a hundred and twelve percent increase in risk in bit of diabetes I don't quite know how you can have a hundred and twelve percent increase means some people get diabetes twice sitting is soap is that that looked terrible isn't like Elvis if attentive there is also 40mm percent increase in death from any cause so there you go but I mean you know well I like some downright not from any cause not from like jogging ninja being over yeah for me out of a plane and yet so so I mean you you quite like seeing down deserve a good sitting down I don't I mean who doesn't enjoy a good citizens where I remember burns I just sat down and they talk about all the virtues of sitting of which there are many rights I mean I don't like the I'm not arguing I'm not disputing this bad for me and that that is very distressing news yo get it gave me today when we were discussing the podcast and you said you're gonna go diabetes twice as you know that you're dying just sat down mmm I would row but I don't like what the Apple which is doing I would rather die sitting live on my legs that's fair enough what about what about readers desert does anyone have any interesting insights into this subject those guys yes they do amira me says my question is what other than the heartbeat can the Apple watch do that the health app on my iPhone can't okay do I really need a separate watch I know wearables are supposed to be the next big thing but so far none of the watches I've seen particularly impress me harsh words resin yeah well as a thing like with what we up a watch there's quite a lot of it's still very much unknown and particularly salwar apples been doing with third-party developers which historically is what Apple's done really well but you're getting all the apps into the iphone and stuff so there's a lot of things that we just don't know when that's why we're so excited to actually get it in our hands since I light it in April and yes we will miss 200 says apples business model is rather brilliant let other manufacturers do all the innovation grunt work spending and stumbling through initial product releases while it tweaks away at perfecting safe to say Apple didn't invent the computer telephone or watch but they sure are good at making them really thin and what I like about that comment as I can't tell if it's sarcastic it's like obviously innovate or if it's like well done that really needs a sarcasm tag around it doesn't it to find out well Joe actuary says I think an hourly reminder is actually a really good idea this way you'll know it's time to recharge the Apple watch hey I boobs are with a girl injection I would actually like to try to watch that sort of vibrates on my wrist to tell me to get up and move around yeah interesting experiment so it is like yeah electric shock I think would be more at a massive at once so large that you can't stand up but it delivers it until you do get right on that I'd like to have one that makes this podcast easier because i had whiplash last week and we having to stand facing forwards but looking at you it's really hurting my neck so i'm going to move on to spider-man okay that's why when he said when he's an ad whiplash last week I was trying to think what happened on the podcast yeah you weren't on the potholes on the bus goes on you're away or something with and that's when I got whiplash anyway I'm going to talk about spider-man specifically I'm going to say the word spider-man and then say rich something's happening with spider excellent research yeah that's a great news for spider for hands spider-man man spider-man sorry that's a common mistake rich man is the name got it got it spider-man mr. spider John spider-man so yeah so spider-man is gonna be in the Marvel Cinematic Universe oh you know how all the mobile movies lately like the Avengers Iron Man Thor all those kind of things they're all linked together they're all in the same shared universe they hear of this crossover and spider-man hasn't previously been a part of that because even though he's a marvel comics character the film rights have been owned by Sony which is a different film studio and they've made their own series well now Sony and Marvel have got together and they've agreed a deal so that search by the man will still be in the Marvel movies and yes that's a great news it means we can have her I mean sets up other such stories like civil war which is comic story that will be adapted into a movie in a few years and spider-man is a big part of that so it's excellent news in that exciting regard yeah absolutely and they've come to deal with the money as well so the in spider-man's solo movies that have made by sony Marvel doesn't get any money but when spider-man appears in a crossover movie like The Avengers so he doesn't get any money so it's a kind of you know it's a nice way of sharing their playing nice together it's a deal interestingly it's slotting in an extra spider-man movie means that the the Marvel movies are being moved back so Captain Marvel and black panther and like that can think I've been delayed a little bit longer okay but there you go okay it's spider-man good yes spider yes bye bye spider-man man spider-man and a bit with a little bit but spider-man is the best superhero yeah now that's not to say that I enjoy the spider-man movies more than I enjoy other superhero movies but I think they're rubbish lots lots of them are some of them are good and some of them are bad okay but I i think if you if you listed all of the superheroes and you you sort of you talk to a child who hadn't seen any films or read any comics or anything and you just described them spider-man is the one with the most potential he's the coolest he swings around on Webb's from his hands and he's got the strength of a spider so he can throw cars like not like a spider can but proportionally to what was fighting did and he can walk up walls and he can do all sorts of lovely stuff and he's cool he's like half spider half man he's brilliant you know it's way better than wait a minute what about Batman Batman is rubbish okay no even I know Batman's rubbish because like I think I think the thing about Batman is I'm tired of him he doesn't have any doesn't have any superpowers which come on for a superhero that's a bit of a bunch of failures ever miss been made fazia superhero there was just a hero point he's a rich hero well this is the thing he's the exception that completely ruins the rule when it comes to what superhero yeah I think the thing with Batman is and even don't get me wrong i really enjoy a lot of batman stuff but that man is that euphemism when the bedroom yeah in the week or the Batcave em but the thing about Batman is that like he is benefited from loads of really really talented incredible people on TV and in film sort of taking up his I ideas ok so like loads of the Batman stuff is amazing way better than the spider-man movies so I'm not debating that I'm just saying that on if you bullet pointed everything about spider-man everything about Batman spider-man is half spider and you can shoot Webster his hands and also like that man's just like a bat which is a bit on the nose spider-man's not dressed like a spider please dress it's got like a pipe cleaner legs enemy guy the guy with the arms yeah he's looks like more of a spider because he's got this several arms yeah also gonna have to say the obvious here but the other day I had a shower and I saw a big spider on my bathroom floor and it could barely walk because of the steam on the floor spiders are terrible I read that that's a that's strongly the film's must suck lots of spiders can do all sorts so that answers that yeah and we'll do what the readers and listeners think about this particular piece of spider news are they agree with me um very broadly one commenter here says Luke's right um Batman it couldn't joke on isn't there is blue cancer said another one says quite another one says Batman needs to get over it my parents died years ago yep doing a support group no I feel me I know that's what I said earlier all the podcast but I feel mean about it now I think not yeah that is me in the comments Crytek says oh great time for another reboot which is the second comment this week that I can't tell if it sarcastic Mike underscore failing meanwhile says that is a pretty wise business decision a straight business decision I wonder will Fox also follow suit with the x-men franchise when they're ready to reboot well that's it i mean the x-men franchise is kind of chugging along nicely there they're making loads of money out that they've got a bunch of other films plan so yeah I think they're gonna be training too it's interesting though because the thing about the spider-man deal is is it I didn't think it would ever happen because I don't think so need not making money with this spider-man those movies must have made I think yeah but only if they tell the story of his origin apparently that's what songs only knows attitude but what's what's kind of interesting about i think is that obviously marvel world disney and and sony you've come to an agreement which is basically everyone benefits when we all use spider-man yeah so i think i don't see why they couldn't do the same thing works by the man's all around it's fun yeah but spider-man in everything but spider-man in temecula next James Bond spider yep it's time and I today I could have got like who's there yeah nope jurassic world isn't out yet there's still time to add spider-man today is that's a good idea if it turns out that the dinosaur that they created I was kind of prac me like is it technically a dinosaur and then spider-man will eat him well you know where else spider-man could pop up he could pop up in Westeros I'll be good runner game spiderman and gave me my drones yeah incredible yeah segue into I'll tell you what you get up the wall quickly sorry well anyway but with with that nice segue into Game of Thrones luke and I went to visit the game of thrones exhibition this week which is happening where we saw up close all of the the props and weapons and the clothing and some of the jewelry and whatnot actually used in the filming of Game of Thrones so realistic in fact they actually do some of them still have the merge and things on from the films I've work from when they are actually on locate some of them still have like the severed heads and arms deal yeah yeah yeah so this is on where is this on this is at Theotis and it's yeah it's on the sky atlantic studios it's guy backstage there it's skies event space in the o2 for venting o2 arena when you walk in as a big bit on the left that sort of sky is planted it's a culture we have loads a picture this as well that we on the on the site so good yeah as well taken by someone great was Andy well there are okay and there is a bitten by me who knows a lot about Game of Thrones and had to google surprisingly little of the Spelling's nicely done there there is a bit of a catch to this though isn't it you do have to be there Luke in action there you go if you're watching the video version I'm not going to describe it so if you listen to audio version you're compelled to see what Luke in action me mr. Luke doing some Batman stuff yeah so there's a bit of catch to this there is in the small caps you do have to be a sky customer yes right wow you can apply for tickets for free yeah when you're asked our customer don't temporarily as well so it's only it's on from the 15 to over 17th and it's in London so you know it is pretty specific but the great thing is as a weave bean I have taken all these eggs to show you don't even need to get down we get out of your house we've got many many photos it's very comprehensive and and yeah it's just really really cool there's loads of little details on on the props that that are about a pixel big on the TV show when you watch it I imagine but and you would never notice them but they're really cool like a for example Stannis's scabbard where a keeps his sword it's a it's covered in little golden stags and burning hearts which is anyone who's familiar with the show will know is a remix of his familial heritage and adopted religion those electr sounds a bit emo frankly he's drawing burning hearts on his clothes yeah but you know he's he's basically started hanging out with like an emo a burning car crowd okay and Dave persuaded him we're getting a little bit worried about him but it's perfectly harmless it is a face ok Toph well there you go so yeah we're going things so you don't have to anyway why don't we move on to the big picture we love iOS and Android but they have been around a while and you can't blame us if our eyes start to wonder every now and again so what are the alternatives a couple of years ago a few new contenders through their hats in the mobile OS ring and these upstart OSS are finally available this week I got my hands on the first phone to run on a bun to the BQ aquaris a 4.5 Ubuntu edition which swaps apps for scopes and does things a little differently Mozilla's Firefox has had a good year while Tizen has Samsung's considerable resources behind it but why would anyone want an alternative when Android has been good for everyone upstart OSS are a good deal for phone manufacturers and networks because they wrest control and money back from google and give you a better chance differentiating their kit from all the other Android devices out there so where are they all up to Luke why don't you tell us about Firefox well Firefox is an order one Firefox OS because I I would say this is the operating system of all of the those alternatives that isn't really grabbing the headlines sure but arguably has actually made some real progress so it's running on I think 15 low-end phone that's our phones yeah and these are things that are actually on sale um you know in parts of the world yeah that's deal of thing though isn't it they're not quite then exactly in shocked or anything on him no and also that tend to be aimed at developing markets so you know not the kind of thing that will probably see in the UK or the US or anything con in a really big way but like 15 phones us a lot of phones and we're talking about manufacturers like alcatel Zed t yes I think alcatel is probably the biggest name name one um but yeah there were different manufacturers on LG as well that's just where the biggest one thing really well gee algae I think they do one yeah that's cool but yeah i mean i've used firefox OS and i think it's i think it's fine um yeah the big question with all of these things really is is it better than android which is extremely cheap also i mean i can see why it's better for manufacturers but sort of for customers either head off with android fine roads in those of apps but firefox OS doing well yeah that's in here endeth my report that's the takeaway the bottom line yeah okay and Andy what about Tizen well tysons actually quite an interesting one because it's it was originally sort of started up by various companies also working together on to this one platform but we have in the past year or so seen like Samsung his heavily got involved in in Tizen where she saw Tizen on on a galaxy s4 last year at MWC and it was showing us or how far it's got with Tizen on this and and there was a lot of discussion at the time about whether Samsung itself would want to move away from Google's Android and have and be able to have an operating system it's a bit more but it can keep a bit closer to control over sure but more excitingly is it ties in is actually we've seen it on on a far greater number of devices including sit in watches in cameras there's been taught about going into cars and fridges and things which is more difficult to do with Android certainly in its in as Android as you see it on the phone mean Google itself we've had is how to develop its own Android wear for watches and chromecast for TVs so I very different versions of the software but ties them could be a bit easier to put onto everything to maybe have everything communicate together so look at sort of you know it is an Internet of Things they're smart home Tizen may well have quite a big place in that ties in nicely to the smart home ah this guy I think that's why they pay you the big bucks what okay you guys get paid by him who knocks and then ascending I mean yeah I think that's actually really good point because the i think the gut reaction with lots of these are praising system is why they even trying the race is run landing on what Android one but yeah when we think about the next step which is things like smart home and things like that that's basically a whole new battlefield let's train so yeah and a bun to as well they mean they finally got their first phone they would look kind of a couple years ago when first like seeing these upstart OS is when we saw the mobile world congress in 2013 on the one place Tizen was unusable it was just an absolute mess oh it was absolute terrible it wasn't just ready wasn't ready basically Firefox was kind of there but but was you know wasn't most Henry hadn't read a very much and I bunty really seemed to work it was the most developed than the most the most elegant and it kind of worked really well and in terms of the software not much has changed they kind of they haven't really evolved much because it was already up that finished product what they've all taken them a long time is obviously building a relationship with manufacturers and networks and that kind of thing and they're still only selling in a flash sale in European limited limited numbers but um yeah but but they but you know like you say that so bun to is much more open to other devices so it's already well known for being on PCs and it could potentially run on other devices well they've just announced something called a bun to core which is all about smart devices and even drones so you can use a bun to to power your drone and have an app store for your drone I guess yeah yeah which is pretty cool so yeah it's all still wide open which is good it's good that we're actually finally see some devices we can buy Selia I was quite excited about it Bunty when I first saw it and it was yeah we have been about two years ago I think when they first showed off his device because that was one of the first times where they'd really talked about instead of having I'll gay should you'll buy your phone you buy a tablet and you buy this it was really about the phone is is the core for everything and yes i'll plug it into a monitor it'll act as your desktop and i thought i was really exciting and that's really what you what you want i've talked about that so many times at well why are we still pushing towards multiple devices we need to be pushing towards a brain and yeah and now on convergence yeah and that was that was great and it's a shame that it kind of we haven't had a big update on that and had a bit more of an excitement stool right there with lock we're there with this particular one to phone the the BQ aquaris which we have got a hands-on video and photos and first look review kind of preview on the site so have a look for that if you're interested it's on sale in various different flash sales over the next few weeks there you go so one of our readers been saying what are those guys well your ipod boy says excellent an alternative to android is a comments on the bun to the history yeah and if you want to true open OS this is the way to go at least this open source OS won't spy on you like android does it yeah it definitely well exactly in the same way all the other ones do as soon as you start using any app services or anything else of course it will so don't know well yeah that's so just get used to it you've been told Rosco tsc says if you want a truly customizable phone I think you just found it this should be very interesting i hope they make and sell tons of them sitive while osman underscore shez says pretty novel i love all this competition in phones i can't wait till most phones cost as much as the ones on contract and then everyone will start going off contract whoo take that cell phone company take that yeah it's like while evil pink lolita says that's too bad the phone won't be released in the US I'd love to get to my hands on one well there you go maybe if they do actually have plans for the US and they're going to be announcing something very soon so will that will keep you posted when that actually happens we can also give a little honorable mention to sail fish no I just remembered that yeah well yeah well get was with giallo rajala phone still is selling is selling quite well apparently oh well in but it's in in finland in china but they have because they they did their kickstarter campaign not she was IndieGoGo campaign for the jolla tablet and that did phenomenally well and within a few hours at his target and it massively exceeded it over the week it was actually online and they're actually showing that physical unit of that at mwc so really looking forward to actually going getting hands-on with that and seeing what sailfish is like I'm an OS cuz on a phone it was it looked really neat and it was fancy Hughes actually it really was quite quite exciting so I didn't have dive the app support but it did use like html5 app so a lot of web-based stuff will work quite well so you know we'll definitely on them go stuff right and their bare mind all this stuff we're talking about we're going to be coming from mobile world congress will be seeing all these things there'll be loads and ideas and videos and new phones when is Mobile World Congress it soon it's very soon it's not anything sooner than you want yeah yeah well we're going over there in for so we'll bring you all the cool stuff from there all right then let's finally as we want to think back Gary McAnally says why is the sky blue but because it reflects the sea obviously I don't think that's true ladies term in fact if I google it I don't those days of sick joke you reflect to see what else is happy Gary that's a question I'm true it's something to do with particles we're going to do with molecules in the air there's got a blue light from the Sun more than they scatter red light yeah that doesn't sound right i think it's 30 i'm collecting the sea thing yes the sea Whitaker says when is the new google era coming out as it obviously isn't January 2015 anymore um good point yeah no probably not January after a 10-15 now a project ara for those who may have forgotten is Google's concept slopped together modular phones anything looks really cool doesn't it does look cool you can just swap out the screen when it gets cracked it looks really cool but I'm refusing to get excited about it because Saudi google glass and all the other Google's don't they do aggressor ever looked cool but I all right I didn't look cool but it was like wow um so yeah but you eat the idea is that you've got like a phone you can slot different cameras and different screens under the screen smashes you can just pull the screen but out and slotting a new one and stuff it is really cool but where is it is it ever going to be real and Google's actually said that it is going on sale with Puerto Rico one of the first places it goes on way also Puerto Rico well good well so keep were tariq ins yeah definitely um that's a bit random I've never heard if someone is saying like someone launching a product in in Puerto Rico and I'm not sure about this by I definitely read something about like they're gonna be selling it out to sort of food fan style that's such a google thing to do isn't it that's so Google as Google right there well we've got this amazing new thing which might transform technology in the industry and that kind of thing what should we do with it let's a little food vans Irial in Latin America um which you know we'd love to get hands on one and yeah good for them when start happening sometime this year yeah like in 2015 is although that is indeed is it so I mean fingers crossed yeah it looks like it's sort of still happening slowly but surely yeah meanwhile I know I Rin wave I pronounce right and you're in pile says I got older all the marin poem cool how's it going I'm sitting for ages well let's find a still owes me a tenor I have a question for your amazing podcast oh alright you can give it 10 if you had to choose one household item to become smart in 2015 what would it be and the ad nan and I the end we're not rigid of what that means but we love the fit can I just say that after last week we're due to some quirk of like the planets aligning not in our favor we had absolutely no feedback well we did get three likes so we've been doing likes on the facebook status but like going to say that loads of people have written in this week would look with feedback thank you it's really nice that it's very heartening I don't know how much we appreciate that outpouring of support it does Khloe's we just feel like we shouting into the void and then I know it can seem like we are big stars in up on So You Know unattainable yes I'm a pile of money yeah honoring on a pedestal like they're probably get loads of feedback they're never going to read out mine but in fact no we really appreciate we do we do appreciate its most here for me a lot of see how does giving some and feedback well you didn't come easy go don't yeah and you lost a question that it was what do you want if you one household item to become smart in 2015 Andy what do you think Oh for me it's a better system for remotely shutting off your household plugs because yeah every single day without fail I will get to my friend or my house and I think have I left my hair straighteners on and even though I always like how there it is always have to get back and check and often i will walk halfway to the tube station and then double back and go home just because as soon as you start thinking how i left it on that thought is not going to leave i'll drive you mad so and go back and check and I've never left them on but let me go or smart chairs really comforting you know those American lounge chairs lazy lazy boys yeah fridges and phones and whatnot put into the arm rests why none of those cool over here I want those think it's because our living rooms aren't big enough Oh bigger than those chairs that's Jennifer also the good thing about that is that when you spend too much of your time sitting and slowly contracting diabetes and having a hot yeah your check every light every half-hour your tie you in like the ceiling bit you hell yeah yeah bang yeah just like fire you out and send you jogging absolutely yeah um I would like a smart floor and I would like the floor to be connected up with like millions of little stickers bear with me yeah and those little stickers you can put on all of the things that you own and that way whenever something's lost you can be like where did it go and you look on your phone and your floor has been like ooh searching for that sticker be like oh here are the key they could light up the floor might look good like yeah do you that with RFID tags and NFC tags prada group of players also missing probably everything an RFID texture if you have any part for you when you definitely want to lie to dance for yeah definitely ideally many more questions when that smart house goes mad that's what that's what they do um yes lots more questions David B says hey guys two questions no questions isn't one here I know you guys don't watch the Premier League much her you were forced by gunpoint to choose a team which would it be and then David puts arsenal brackets which presumably hinnies a correct answer and is right with our thoughts on this thing well yeah I mean I I manchester city would be my physically closest team when I was growing up so I supported them also cities home kit was a delightful baby blue which I always really liked I don't if they refer to it is baby blue well it wasn't a my baby blue whatever it was the others are like their baby poo actually call it duck egg and I definitely the city not United because it annoys me that their team is called Manchester United yet clearly they're not United when there's a Manchester City there's two teams in there you can be called Majesty United when there's only one Manchester team they are united okay well i can't swear any allegiance to anyone other than the mighty tranmere rovers so pride of Merseyside so right there amelie any more questions oh yes David also says coming to London from the USA is there a must go to pub in central London Oh many many yeah now that is an excellent question there are low actually like in really really central London there is a bright there are lots and lots of good pups they tend to get busy yeah but check out the Admiralty on Trafalgar Square which despite being on Trafalgar Square is actually quite a nice problem there are no debris no verte themes and it's kind of yes got it seemed like I think it seemed like the HMS Victory in being on by Nelson's column in Trafalgar Square and Nelson's ship and the boats they did there are some really really good historic pubs like the black friar in plat friars right um and ye oldie cheshire cheese which was rebuilt after the great fire in 1666 that's great really hard got the toilet in there though because got very low ceilings on the generally but also in the in the stairs down to the toilet certainly we're giving proper consumer has never happened before so I suggest buy a bottle of cider and sit in Hyde Park but there's also the viaduct tavern is worth checking out that's a Victorian gin Palace yes all the lovely reason windows system that's where I hired for a 30th birthday which went down very well hmm and also our local is the Lord Nelson which is fantastic pub and does great burgers but you do have to go to Southwark though which is yes I century it's by water though I would know that was your excuse for not coming to my birth I wouldn't go out of your way David um producer Mark oboe and David also says keep up the hilarity so ah thanks right producer mark you'll never see for some reason thinks that it's appropriate for him to leave feedback and said why go out for burger when you have steak at home my god that's that's a good point make of that is you it's part of a breakdown long extended break down here playing out in the pages of our feedback section mm-hmm you'll do that great and one more question and Joe has been in touch to say hi guys not many questions recently so i'll throw you a bone why would i want pity questions we do we do want bitty questions we my ideal what above this bone he speaks up there was Joe question one of the main reasons google glass failed yes because it was considerably to imposing right so don't AR devices like microsoft hololens which is arguably even more noticeable so from the same shortcomings or do you think because hollow lens is so much cooler people won't mind being seemed dead wearing one well people even wear a our headsets out and about great podcast also says keep up the good thank you thank you thank you so much appreciate that yeah I think that's trad I thing anyone's gonna wear them outside are they no I think that you definitely they need to become a lot smaller all the ones that their proper headsets like Samsung's VR an oculus rift Nova stuff they're not they're designed for home use at the moment there needs to be a lot of change before that becomes even remotely user bowing out and about yeah basically want them implanted into your eyes thing that's ideally yeah or just replace your eyes yeah yeah yeah I'd be fine sorry let any of those great all great ideas keep up the good work cheers thanks a good kisser all right cool um all right yes thank you and keep the feedback coming please by emailing us at our email address which is seen at UK podcast at CVS I calm and just to reiterate to her we really do like getting your feedback guys so any I'd anything you want to say big or small we know we love hearing your thoughts it's amazing it is love is hear from you because you are why we do this you have you complete us that means we have to talk to each other you play it was a gorgeous jokes lyrics thoughts of the day write a diary and centers that week by week these are just ideas you can cook your own yeah absolutely nice judgment all right there you know well that's it for this week absolutely sorry thank you Andy thank you thank you thank you thank you to our producer mark you will never see right we're off to start writing a diary and sending it to a be on a weekly basis see you next week
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