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hi everyone I'm Jason Jake is the editors seen at UK welcome you to the cnet UK podcast number 321 live from the cnet stage at CES in Las Vegas coming up we're going to take a look at the coolest kit we've seen at the show and some of the rubbish bits as well but before we start reminded if you're listening to the audio version of this podcast make sure you go to the cnet and look for the video vote of it because it's pretty cool moving this week is podcast regular luke westaway hello and plus a very very special guest he's at economists for Reader's Digest and presenter of the amazing answer me this podcast welcome mr. Ollie man hello wow what a yeah I've got four times the pixels of an ordinary podcast that's going to be here thank you very much thank you for inviting me no problem has a show bin for everyone so far it's been alright it's been okay okay yeah well i think it is sort of it's gotta feeling out nothing's blown my mind but nothing's really upset me okay me nothing turn my feelings yeah aventine any technology that's physically harmed me although I did I did see this laser burning thing that was etching something in wood and I got a little wood a Qing from it and that was really cool because it was an extremely precise laser etching that was being done and it looked phenomenal but because it was burned wood it did smell quite bad and I put it in my pocket and then my pocket smell bad and I put in my hotel room when I came back my hotel room smell it's a good story I hope you got more like that and let's crack on with the thieves the show right we always start with themes the show beams of the show yeah surely that was the topic number so I guess the first thing is it's always it's always that TVs isn't it so what's the big TV thing this year yeah there are two big TV things so the first is OLED LED which is a display technology as you may or may not know that is currently most popular in smartphones silos or smartphones use this it looks absolutely gorgeous and when you blow this display take up to property d size it looks mind-blowing Lee gorgeous so you get this this amazing contrast ratio you just get these really really deep bright colors and it just looks fantastic so that's that's when you see this an oled TV I've seen basically everyone's got one but Sony's is the most impressive because it adds in how do you factor that in because they all look the same to me to the naked eye they are all amazing but I cannot differentiate between the samsung one the sony one the Panasonic one the LG one well this is stingray what you do is you look at it and at the bottom there's normally a little word says panasonic or sony or or whatever and that's pretty much it well I I also worry sometimes whether if I was looking at a normal LCD screen as well if they were showing the same images of a leaf so as a leaf isn't it a leave for water for a copyright free leaf I'm not sure with the contrast whacked up high that I'd always be able to tell the difference like you never really know until you watch a film on it do those are you trying to shatter the the myth that there is much difference between most TVs I mean we might have to stop this podcast but there is the wrister between oled TV and the LED tvs that we've seen right because ariad looks a lot better than normal TV plus there are two 4k OLED TVs you wanna explain a bit what 4k is and what those products are so 4k is another very exciting display technology because it just has a phenomenal number of pixels got about four times as much as 1080p full HD so when you're looking at it it's like the first time you load to HD but a little bit more it's just a bit more HD ultra HD is what they're calling it here yes 0 for k is one thing that you see the cinemas and there's also Ultra HD now there is actually a reason for that I know you know you're worried about this the reason is that the 4k you get in cinema is actually a sum like seven percent wider than the 4k get on a TV because the aspect ratio is a bit different so we get the bars the bomb at the top so hence the name Ultra HD so big anyway sorry I interrupted that's fine um yeah but Sony's Sony's done something very cool it's made a 4k OLED TV that's something I i I've seen him and it really really I saw it and was just kind of bored by it it was like a chancing upon the first time for our we moved I was new a new corporate slogan yeah yeah almost it is one thing I did notice is that even from the back of the press conference and Sony where I was it did look very crystal clear in a way that actually at HD or LCD TV wouldn't in the same way you can get very very close up can't you and you don't notice the pixels I mean that is noticeable straight away that even right from the other end of the hall it still looked like a really crystal sharp display yeah exactly it looks beautiful there's another use of out that you've seen as well only the multi vtv from Samsung oh yeah I do kind of think this is sort of end of days this stuff really and I'm a bit of an evangelist for the second screen you know the second screen tweet whilst you're watching TV all that stuff but when you actually literally putting a second screen in the big screen so that you and your partner can be watching different things or playing different games at the same time I just think there's something a little bit depressing about that idea for a family to be honest so it's one TV with and you get what two glasses or something and house and you don't get crosstalk that's a new little word that I learned from the Samsung press conference no crosstalk I thought you know how to measure for crosstalk this is alyssa's a little pro tip you put the glasses on and you go like that oh really just slightly out of Center and if you get out there and the people separate that's crosstalk isn't they they go do wrong oh no I'm the only one still doing it I also love the inherent sexism as well of all of those presentations where they're like you want to watch one thing but say my wife wants to watch something else it is that ok you'll make you a lot of assumptions there firstly everyone here at the press conference is male secondly they're all straight thirdly they've all got a wife and forth me that the wife would have completely different taste of them because they're a woman so come on takes for everyone people yeah you gotta remember that press conferences existing this week fantasy land where people like watching leaves least our it leaves a little clouds over the mountains like watching leaves my most special for that okay phone what else has there been all NFC that's something I'm quite excited about maybe it's just me but it is exciting so on the Sony stand they've got some really interesting uses for NFC and it's a it's the technology's been on phones for ages and has been loaded NFC phones and it's supposed to I thought was just for paying for things and that's kind of taking a while to work out but actually what it does is it helps one thing talk to another thing that what otherwise it wouldn't talk to each other so they had a TV and a phone and if they both got something called mirror cast on it stay with me you pick up your phone and you tap it on the remote and then what's on the phone is projected onto the TV and you can swivel around and do that that's the NFC kind of establish the pair between those two things and then Bluetooth takes over and so does the file transfer also they've got a little file transfer system like a box and you put your phone on top of it uses NFC to pee and then the box sucks off any pictures or you know video whatever you've got on your phone and backs it up onto its own hard disk but the thing you probably use it for is play music so you play musically phone you tap the phone onto boom box and a boom box and it was like this big it was insane and music comes out of there you don't need to like you know we bluetooth even we have to like press pair and then you've got other cones and it gets rid of all that so thumbs up NFC I think if NFC becomes really popular in the future do you think there's a chance that we'll lose the dexterity to handle cables and sockets and we'll just childishly push one piece of technology into another I think there's every chance I'm mashing my computer into a television like kids who don't know how to read books cuz they've grown up with tablet computers so they do that on pages I'll be that but just yeah speak to me slaps slaps forehead i should say for the audio people but there's only one that they are all there one touch stuff yeah am i right or wrong in saying that that only works with sony products ah you may or may not be no one really knows including Sony it should to be honest work with most it should work ice cream that's cool isn't it no one really knows because obviously there's an almost infinite number of products so until you test them all who knows really the the TV thing only works if the both things got miracast which is a sony technology that they are licensing it but they're kinda just music stuff that should just that should work maybe what it'll take for NFC to take off is for it to be in in everything really it should be in in taxis in chairs airports restaurants every room of your house every surface the sofa the cat everything should have an NFC chip in it NFC cat yeah because because otherwise it's just not going to be more convenient than reaching for the remote or something yes yes you are right well done and I think that often when you're walking around CES and you see these manufacturers who have developed technologies that really only work if everything in your house is made by that one developer it can be very frustrating and the most ridiculous example I saw of this was on the toshiba stand where they were talking about every member of the family can different account on the television so they can recommend programs that you might want to watch because that's easier than choosing your own program I think what kind of mad parallel universes this where everyone has a toshiba TV and they genuinely think it's easier to recommend to their dad what to watch using the social interface on their TV then it just for example accessing Twitter and so I do just maybe a phone call yes no need to talk to me son use your toshiba tablet to swipe it or the Radio Times dare I say a TV Guide for Americans sorry yeah okay what the I guess one of the big areas for us is always phones so has its been a phony show or a show phony no no they've been motor show no yeah there's been a sony phone there's been a phony sony phone nice don't know yeah probably yes so there's been basically one or two phones of notes but they're more notable by their absence so Samsung's got no new phones really sorry I don't think it anything in fact yeah and so lots of manufactures are basically said oh yeah we are still making phones but we're not going to show them off here so not foresee yes they get away for mobile world congress which is a mobile phone centric trade show in in February what have we see what have we seen we've seen the Sony Xperia Z that's probably one of those show highlights so this is a Sony's stayed away from the making screens enormous fat which samsung is embraced wholeheartedly with things like the galaxy note and note 2 but it's decided at last that it's of phones aren't doing very well so maybe it should try something that is working for other companies so the Sony Xperia said is it's a 5 inch quad core 13 megapixel camera smartphone it's basically every every Bell and whistle yay the thing is like a 5-inch phone is not really very exciting quad cores not very exciting because these things happened before I mean it might be perfectly good but it's not really pushing anything forward the 13-megapixel camera though Sony makes nice it's nice cameras there is one other feature it has right which is its water proof that is actually quite useful and properly waterproof if the demonstrations are to be believed there's a thing which actually ducks it into water on their staff i'm pretty sure i was reading a press release that said like feel free to use your phone in in air quotes water or something or which I think suggested that possibly ID like water one of the use case scenarios that Sony mentioned at their press conference was and I quote blogging in the bathtub please what kind of blogger you writing if you're doing a food blog was your in the bathtub you've got it wrong I can do my job in the bath as well and good I thought I was in you know in I thought it was all gravy doing my job in my pants from bed I didn't read now you can consider I could be in the bath as well accidentally access the 13-megapixel camera that's the first thing issue yeah there's another massive phone as well that I mean massive in terms of its screen size the high i assent mate what make you got 6.1 inches jelly bean and you called core is naked you're gonna need a new one yeah this is an enormous phone obviously 6.1 inches is way too big or maybe not if you really like it phone as well no I are I saw the first galaxy note which was five something point seven or so I can remember and i thought was ridiculous product ever I still think it's most ridiculous product ever but they're selling right so what do I know so with that in mind maybe this is the best thing ever but it's a six interesting it's like you have to stretch your hand to get it around it well it is but then it's very easy to say that when we've all got two netbooks and two laptops and two tablets but actually if you're just choosing one device and you're upgrading from maybe even a dumb phone to your first smartphone and you just want one that does stuff but you know everyone else might be using a tablet for he's a bit more gadgets entry I can kind of see that you want one with a bigger screen actually okay only man voice of the people I like that I like that yes mate yeah okay so maybe the hours of power as well they claim 48 hours yes no chance yeah that just doesn't that doesn't I'm not your house are being turned off by me exactly yeah yeah alright as long as you like yeah it literally can be a brick result like okay right there's the main themes the show what other cool stuff have we seen I've seen the year we should probably talk about the Nvidia shield issue the shield an odd gaming concepts remember last year razor kind of stole the show with its bizarre tablet with handles on the side that's here again actually make this time the handles are detachable it's actually anyway it's very complicated and it's like fifteen hundred dollars or something we'll talk about of dollars anyway it's too complicated but the Nvidia shield it's a it's a small gaming handheld it looks a bit like the nintendo dscc it's got this this 5-inch I think screen on the top it plays android games that's fine but it can also do which is really interesting is stream PC games so the idea is you're playing games on the pc and you're like this screen is too big and this is too comfortable i would like to go in the other room and play on my nvidia shield well possibly I don't want to sound too cynical though it could be useful maybe if say for example someone maybe your wife wants to watch something on television so you have to stop playing your game so you can you can transfer the game on to a different screen it's it's an interesting idea it's an interesting idea okay what have you seen ollie can I talk about view 6 please do I'm big fan of musics I've been following them for years they've got quite a big presence in the UK and if you're interested in the sort of wearable technology space they're kind of a leader really and but they don't have the budget of epson or Sony who have been getting a lot of press coverage for their kind of wearable cinema screens and all the rest of it which are worse like definitely our worst I've tried them all the eps and ones are really heavy on your nose thus only one I think you have to plug into the wall which defeats the whole purpose of being on a plane with it and musics all along have been doing interesting wearable technology derived for a military stuff and this thing that they brought out for CES the m100 they have an announcement is actually going to be available and I wonder if indeed it ever will whether they just want to steal a march on google glasses and you do feel a bit like the Terminator wearing it you just want to walk around saying I'm looking for Sarah Connor but basically it's a little monocle that sits there it is but yeah it's pretty yeah and you're welcome and you say I say I've got an SMS something very surprising will it pop off your face but the idea is you sort of you can look up words and it will send you through bluetooth text messages or whatever from your phone pairs with your phone using bluetooth and I was skeptical about the whole concept of they say you can drive with it and as you're driving glance upwards and get a message i'm like that sounds like a recipe for a car accident yeah but I tried it and I can sort of imagine that it's no more distracting than actually if you were looking at a sign going purse hey there's one right here genuinely did not blame them can we borrow that age can we see know what you should have this just chuck it up here we're getting on with the Bluetooth monocle so yo can I hold it I don't know what that's actually paired with now but can you see anything through it's a video on it so now say I'm looking for Sarah corner some people sell coffee that was good it's like he's really here that I did it and it's really interesting to see where they're going with next with this because realistically I don't think people are going to be buying these but I do think that's very scary but I do think it looks like I in fact I think what they're going towards this sort of Google Glasses type idea we've got a camera may be embedded in the specs that basically like Ray Bans with with I guess a phone on board and not a bluetooth paired device it's quite exciting stuff ok found this is going to be on the next big it's gonna be on a panel that's coming up anyway so what else do we see I'm sorry well yeah something that I've seen I really like is it's called a happy fork now this thing is are you going like most about you I like they're fearful it's all about the happy for me back we've just passed that back down this is a fork that's got that communicates with your smartphone and if you eat too quickly it buzzes the idea being that it helps you lose weight how do we yeah this fork would set it and it will send all that data to a smartphone and you get a little graph and you can see how like quickly leaden and does what stuff for sure No and is it a bit too heavy yes and am i a child no I don't want to be told when ten seconds has gone by I'm an independent person living in a free country with my hands I don't have before no I like what it is that you know have a nice i like where it's going i like the idea of connected devices that used to be not smart but i just think a fork that tells me when to eat can cutlery off should give you fun stuff to do and not tell you what to stop doing special acting isn't of Wales to be seen then I can I just know on the happy fork I do you think for kids it would be good I think the kids learning how not to eat too quickly then it's a game isn't because you don't want it to buzz ok I just wanted to get it is all about the happy for concert yeah yeah um I've seen a blue tie ok if you don't like the happy fork maybe you're like the parrot bluetooth thingy prong thing I come on it's cool now but it's called like plant detective iconic it's like it's a little fork and you put it in the soil of your plant and uses bluetooth to communicate with an iPad or some such yeah you tell the ipad what your plan is and it shows you when the happy perhap fault what hat for i've been told in my ear like my Sarah Connor and it says you gotta walk you gotta water in two days you move it to better light that sort of thing it's pretty cool I like it it should give it a voice if you give the plant a voice it's like I'm thirsty what would your plans say it would most to say I'm thirsty I'm dying yeah I'm dead I died many years ago please throw me away I think it's a first-generation idea it's good I wouldn't buy one now but when you get to the stage where that kind of technologies built into a plant pot that you buy at home base then I can imagine that working you know if it's actually free or it cost one pound more to get your bluetooth-enabled plant that tells you when to water it then you can imagine it working on you and I guess that sort of thing has to come out so they can filter the technology down but the idea of buying something that costs anything upwards of three quid to put in your blonde pot and tell you when to water it just comes out very good wow we're coming to the end unfortunately so let's just let's just round up by saying what our favorite products of the show all about you Luke I'm gonna go with Sony's 4k OLED it blew my mind blue minor to I have to say what about you Olly this is something that we haven't talked about was just very briefly emulsion as a new company of smartwatches and I'm well into the Dick Tracy idea that one day we're going to properly do this and it's never quite happened i know there's pebble and stuff and it hasn't got a digital display it's got an analog one so it looks like a fun analog watch bright straps but you can sync it with your phone and see messages and stuff it's great it's all about the happy for for me I'm sorry no one is going to give in to me I want the happy thought all right well on that bombshell thanks so much for joining us next up at the top of the hour at some very very cool and cutting-edge tech brian cooley war hoax our next interfaces you pounds so make sure you don't miss it that's it for almost thanks for thanks to everyone for coming down here and that's it for this year see you next time