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hey guys how's it goin how's it goin happy cyber monday guys are on everybody here alright guys so today what we're gonna do for an hour you've come to cnet's cyber monday kind of holiday gift guide recommendations Q&A session with some of the best of the best tier cnet we have miss molly wood in the house that's right that's the best the best the best cream and if you want the creme de la creme you got Donal Bell up here also and if you want this room right now that's why I called you creme de la creme and if you want you know some Asian persuasion I got you that too also Stephen Beecham running the show on the board so what we're gonna do here today is talk about a lot of things we just recently these two lovely folks here recently shot our cnet Holiday Gift Guide show that you'll see on Erin on CBS on local stations so you guys can check that out and during that process we kind of revealed cnet's top 10 gifts for the season will also take all of your questions the show is real all 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brought in and it led to like 15 tablet related questions so if we run out and I don't think we will I got some other ones ready to go but hashtag to see the Twitter ones with seen it live as well because then we'll see them and then I don't know maybe we could beat out liz and dick in the trending their trendy new i know i don't know but i had a google it last night I finally was like what he'll the losing good thing now I know a nigga lohan movie right yeah yeah i'll letcha googled it alright that's awesome yeah oh you know obviously this holiday season we know that some of the big trends here gonna be 7-inch tablets right I mean that's one of the hot products we've seen streaming boxes gaming is always hot and you know you guys went through the top 10 list I guess we can kind of we won't replicate the show but kind of list off a few of them maybe some that stuck out in your guys's mind from the show but in your opinion yeah well what're it doesn't have to be the number one the number one product but what are a few of them that stick out in your mind from the top cnet's top 10 list and we'll we'll talk about the top 10 later but we want to hear what you guys have to say first yeah I mean not you know what one of the things I really liked actually was probably number 10 so I mean you know toward the bottom of the list it starts to get kind of obvious although I think you'll be surprised that the iPhone 5 is actually number five on the list appropriate is strong the right that's how strong go the list of technology is in the end the phone competition finally but for me because I know that you guys are all geeks and you kind of already have this or you know it's all the obvious stuff sure isn't it number 10 the 3m streaming projector like it is coolest nerdiest little thing and like Donald said in the show nobody has this you know you don't even have to worry that they already have this because they don't have it right shit yeah it's a it's a built-in and I think we can throw to it or something about yellow yeah we'll talk about a little bit will throw to it built in Louis a little tiny pico projector with a built-in rechargeable battery built-in speakers and the the real silver lining on this thing is that it has a built-in Roku streaming stick in the back so can get streaming Roku right over the right over Wi-Fi directly to the projector I don't know what you're going to do with it you know but you can take into any room in your house I think if you have kids it's a great way to you know watch Dinosaur Train on the wall in the room or something this case Louie CK I'm yeah you can do that I feel like it's perfect actually for um travel yeah and travel with kids like if you you know you already know you want that kind of uh I could totally see you in some chalet in tahoe like projecting the thing on the wall lateral or if it again yeah i don't know who's gonna use it but it is like that's the one that they haven't thought of yeah so for those you that are wondering the 3m projector it's 299 i think according to you know Arsene reviewers who can play with this all day long the drawback on is that it has one and a half hours of battery life so that's that's going to be a lighted absolutely i mean you're gonna you know if you have it set up in your home you'll probably have it plugged in which is fine but because it's so portable you like the idea of being able to watch it anywhere it's not it it's really you know what the first of its kind really and it's cutting it you know its cutting edge but you know the battery life will get better eventually maybe those add on some huge battery backpack or something right and the pico projector still aren't very bright I mean you they don't have a long throw starting at the room pretty dark but I think it can be it's a neat novelty if you wanted to just watch something yeah like you said maybe like a you know hotel room or something I it sounded pervy when I said it you guys just in my mind it was actually pretty good i just said uh but i think i think four kids do it is a fun way to watch me b cartoons you know in their room geek out and some good accessories on the list i mean i think headphones are kind of one of those perennial favorites around the holiday season they're just a there a good gift and if you're not going to spring for the bose quietcomfort to Luci Baines qc15 so the qc15 there than you then you where it's at that's true um that although let me just be clear that's the gift I think everyone should get because I bought them and I want to live in them traveling to the best however nobody's gonna buy this so for 50 bucks we have the audio technica ath m 30s on the list and they're big over the ear cups like studio style headphones that sound really good and again are fifty dollars and I think those are I mean now we're kind of going down the list in order but i do think that though that was a good one too way to get started with just you know things that people haven't thought of or just a really good price on this also like if your kid is asking for like beats by dre $300 headphones wait anyone i disappoint them but still get them a quality ovaries my audio technica hates my audio technica oh and they at least like they look kind of hardcore even if they don't have the style the super super style they look tough at least really tough anyway we add up each other we have the whole list of 10 tickets you know gets somewhat obvious after that though we do have and i think this is a lot of thing a lot of people ask like what is the best TV we have a best overall TV pick the panasonic TC what is it tcp st50 yeah it's the st50 line which is pretty much it's not their high in line you have the UT 50 line that's up at the top but the st 50 line is a little step down but really what it comes down to the image quality is pretty much almost on par and also the sweet spot is the pricing you're not going to be dropping something like over 2,500 dollars for this TV and the st50 line image quality wise is going to deliver pretty much for most of us when you start talking about black levels you get on the high end high tier TVs and then just the step down you really don't see that much of a difference in if you put them side by side unless you're a real video file that has to the top line okay fine you could say no way UT 50 blows the st 50 way but the st 50 is solid value and you're gonna be happy with it either way and one thing to know is that it's a it's a plasma like our top pick is still a plasma that the LCD still have not caught up in terms of image quality and for the things that most people do watch movies have off angle viewing the plasmas are still delivering the best performance and this one I think is around twelve hundred dollars and probably maybe on a better sale here and there yeah and then do 3d but it doesn't come with glasses so it's not you know I mean it's not a huge bells and whistles TV but it's a really good value it looks really good I think another thing when we're just quickly talked about tvs and you've you guys we see some Twitter questions I'm sure you have some maybe some Google questions but will jump to those in a second but just quickly on the TV tip if you guys a lot of people they don't people still don't care obviously about 3d on their TVs people don't even care if their TV is necessarily network connected and the only reason I say that is because now pretty much someone has either an Xbox a ps3 a Roku maybe an Apple TV and they're they're potentially getting their video services from there and although the connected TV with apps is nice it's not really necessary for everyone yet and Panasonic put out a TV that is a plasma television set that pretty much says you know what we're gonna go different we're gonna strip away all the internet features completely it's there you 50 line okay and no Donald did a top 5 of it about top five TVs under thousand dollars it's around eight hundred forty nine dollars for a 55 inch TV that has none of the internet features but the image quality spot yeah are you gonna turn the call the dumb TV it's like and all hail the dumb TV because like you can buy the smart stuff not to skip ahead you completing smart if I your TV with like a roku box or something like that and get you know streaming options without you know but to be able to save a lot of money and get a really high quality TV and just expect that you're going to smarten up with with technology and like external bax's throughout the next couple years because the TV is going to be something going to have around presumably for like at least a window of like five did it's a pretty slow refresh rate yeah the technology that you're going to want to have you know plugged into your TV is going to change more frequently not everything is going to come up with an over-the-air update this I so many over-the-air updates these boxes can have before they can be forced into buying the next thing do you guys think 3d on TV is dead already no I am back on the 3d trade wow that's serious yes okay here's what happened my brother got this sweet LG 3d TV and it came with a month their passive glasses it's not active shutter glasses which i think is the key right they don't cost hundred dollars you have to charge them they're not having uncomfortable and I watched Prometheus and Avengers on 3d on that TV and I was just like oh my god i'm in i'm in key to their own I mean I I think it agree it looks cool but I mean I buy all my blu-rays with 3d because I have 3d TV and I have the glasses and after a point in time I'm just like I'm taking off these glasses I'm just gonna watch him that's just me that's me yes to me I totally SAT that I mean it's me watch it over and over and over I'm completely practical I understand right cuz i said but it's but i SAT there like upright you know in front of the TV like nod off angle and I laying down and I didn't even care she's like yeah I want that experience now which actually stop this cuz I need to be convinced I suppose like I guess and in the home if you can press pause and whatever's going on and then provide your own buzz however you feel like you know legally you can do that 3d in the home makes more sense than in the theater but I'm not sold on tiny content either so only it's because the 3d content is getting better it's because it was movies of the caliber of love Prometheus and actually Avengers I didn't see in 3d in the theater but in on the on the DVD the 3d was really really well done and I think that makes a huge difference it's like never going to be I'm never gonna sit there and put on that and you know my brother and I've kind of they have a new baby right so they're never leaving the house that's another big selling point for 3ds even if you are never leaving the house but I do you have children you are definitely gonna sit at home and put these glasses on and watch the TV but we're never gonna do that first sports right I'm never gonna switch over to 3d mode and sit there it's it's more like appointment viewing but that was the first time I thought to myself you know what I wasn't that is a nice feature to have I think if they bundle it if they bundle it if the hobbit i'm in i think it's a nice feature to have but i just i literally maybe I got fatigued from it that's all I literally have like you know 89 3d blu-ray dvds and I popped in the Pixar stuff looks hot but there's this a certain point in time room like a cabbage don't wanna wear glasses anymore and especially with like some of these movies the the quality of the image quality of it is already good enough where 3d can add a little to me it adds a little not not enough but you know if you if you dig it you dig it you're having a press all right I don't well but let me be clear I wouldn't shop for a TV just for that feature it's not enough of it because I'm totally with you that it's a it's like a novelty it's like sodastream like everybody got a sodastream we were all excited like and then the carbon monoxide thing ran out and now it's just a really nice paperweight and because I'm never gonna order any one more cartridges of that stuff that was a slight tangent but you see where I'm going with that I'm not gonna shop for a TV because of the 3d however for the first time watching those movies I I understood why you you would want that especially if you were really into owning movies at home and buying them on disc which a lot of people still are it was it's cool and the 3ds gotten really good alright i'm in a man now okay you guys Indian I've been in but I'm out I've been in for like a year and a half and I'm out so texting my brother right now to find out which TV it is because I'm a like I'm so obsessed with this TV that I want to recommend it to all of you I'm gonna buy it all right look so good which that's all we have because yeah I'm not getting any questions here on seen a lot people need to send their questions I have a question a life you know what let's talk about less let's talk about the big debate that everyone's asking about and we haven't covered yet is obviously we talked about tablets but the whole ipad mini vs nexus 7 debate I mean that's the question that a lot of people here asking on Twitter you guys brought in the goodies body mint of that we've all we've all used them at mini because we broke the neck we've all used them and had them and you know prizefight of them and torture test them and tablet review them and let's just go around you know we can add on cuz we're gonna disagree but your overall lets you know one minute take on which one do you prefer and why or who it might be for go Molly Nexus 7 okay I'm done but but you know okay I i do i'm gonna go 7 I think that the experience on I think jellybean is finally baked it's a it's a usable good easy fun operating system I think it's still not probably as dead simple as it needs to be but the Nexus 7 is so much better value than the ipad mini and you know that an ipad mini with retina display is coming in six months to a year mm-hmm but i cannot in good conscience tell anybody to spend that money on that device right now i will accept accept that challenge i accept what she's saying but i would i would take another another angle on it which is that you you kind of rent the ipad mini right cuz you can sell that thing back i think i think this time that's funny i mean when you go to resell that because apple products hold their value so well if you think about the the life cycle of ipads and iphones you could probably get a good return on investment when you go to resell at the upgrade to an ipad mini tuned next year whereas i feel like the Nexus 7 as cool as it is it's going to be like next year's kindle fire where it's it well it will age out there'll be something cool to replace this an extra 7.5 yeah and I don't think that people going to be x x 180 because you can't sell it for as much I don't think you're gonna be able to be solved this thing for its ok kick it down to somebody here they're willing to all right I won't argue yeah well that's his point yeah this is a lightning round guys it's Kylie I mean I've I'm leaning toward not even leaning I mean we did a prize by with it in my mind hands down its Nexus 7 but the only reason why I say that is there's two ways to look at it right if you live in the apple ecosystem it makes sense to get an ipad mini if you're willing to spend the money now if i was someone who had no tablet experience whatsoever and i was said this cost X amount of dollars and this cost X amount of dollars I would push them towards the Nexus 7 and more than the ecosystem and the ease of use is what the ipad has going for it when you talk about the features that you're gonna actually use and function properly when we're talking out maps I mean that's something the maps actually works the voice recognition actually works now you may not use these all the time with their features that actually work well and work right you know you can navigate the Nexus 7 it might have a slightly bigger learning curve but like Molly said is still simple enough and you know we've gone back and forth I think whoever's to buy an ipad mini that wants one is going to buy one no matter what that's it that's just how I feel about that kind of specific customer yeah or someone who loves the ecosystem so much that you're gonna stick with the iPad me that's fine but for those you who think that the Nexus 7 is not even a viable option it's absolutely viable it it's on equal footing if not higher in a lot of regard so and I really think I mean there been so many stories about people who are saying that they're gonna spend less this holiday season that they're nervous about price like it's a price conscious time and obviously Apple has managed to transcend price consciousness but they've done it by promising a better product the iPad Mini is lovely it's nice to hold actually this is interesting though my parents were in town um my dad and his wife are in town and both of them told me independently of the other that they felt like it was hard to hold that they felt like the size was so weird because there's not a way there's not very much bezel on the side and so they felt like there was no good way to hold it without making something happen on the screen or putting a huge you know sort of thumb print on it it's a little bit awkwardly designed because it's wider than the nexus 7 and I actually really like that the thinner kind of 7 inch size I would also say you know fall in love with it but it's too much money for not enough stuff if I'm getting the 7-inch tablet is probably something that going to handle my kid a lot and i would i would rather hand them hadn't hand him the 199th our tablet and there he through yeah but in you know everyone then taught us about the other thing that we didn't talk about is apps ABS absolutely there are more apps on an iPad Mini then a nexus 7 but it's a pen segen if you have kids you're probably and you already have iPads you're probably gonna get an ipad mini honestly yeah i mean if you're already in the ecosystem you probably are i think that you know we are definitely talking to those of you who are willing to branch out who are interested in shopping for a different kind of tablet but i would tell my parents that 100 99 bucks they could have a perfectly good and i would recommend the nexus 7 probably over the kindle fire HD 7-inch yep because for me like that the Nexus 7 is is the the best value to be had for 200 bucks or 230 I think the neck that 32 gig was on sale today yeah 230 dollars um you get the entire Android ecosystem which is as many apps as the iphone it may not be all the same one or iOS brother may not be all the same apps but it's the same number of apps you have all the power you have the kindle stuff on there and it's pretty tahsil yeah except i don't mean like usable in the throwaway way you need drop one once and it just exploded to a couple different pictures been yeah so you you want to be a little careful when I was disappointed in the durability I mean that is how you get but that was the first generation maybe it's better maybe they use a little more reinforced plastic maybe you should when you give it to your kids make sure they're on the carpet yeah from even for me like i'm looking to get install a 7-inch tablet in my car my console and then I mean when i'm looking at ipad mini vs nexus 7 i'm going to Nexus 7 for that functionality for that use with that use case just wait for the second one really I mean I know you want an ipad mini I know you do because it's small and it's light and it's a really nice size and or whatever too gracious wait like this is the processor of an ipad 2 with a screen that if you already have like an iphone you're just going to look at the single what the hell is going on with that screen just wait when the retina one comes out for the exact same price and you know it will I'll be okay if you want to buy that one this one to me just feels like a little bit of a money grab right now okay guys so we talked about uh iPads yeah let's take a quick little breather we have a cool video um from Donald the man and he today is cyber monday guess what cyber monday is not even over yet you guys can still find some great deals so he has a few tips and tricks to show you how to get the best out of it and then we'll be back and a continued tweet us with hashtag Cena live call us at one eight eight eight nine hundred cnet and we'll be back in a few minutes all right hey I'm Donald Bell this is a crash course in finding the best shopping deals online for cyber monday these tools you can say some serious money maybe you can score some free shipping now the best deals out there requires some patience here a lot of talk about black friday and cyber monday but the truth is there's deals to be had year round if you know what to look for and that's really the first step know what you're looking for there are plenty of sites out there the Opera bargains on things you never knew you needed scratch your like this one if there's a good chance you'll end up blowing your budget on juicers and snuggies to name some products you if it's something generic like a new TV or a new video game having a list will help you stay focused next do some research looking for a new TV or a tablet or a camera but you don't know where to start use a site like cnet to check reviews and roundups try to become an instant expert on the product category that you're shopping for once you've done your homework it's time to get specific and zero in on the products that you'd be happy with let's say that I'm in love with this cannon sx260 point and shoot it's got great reviews from the critics and users but it's a little pricey at three hundred forty nine dollars retail so the next thing I'll do is get a basic idea of what the street price is sites like google com / shopping or pricegrabber well let me plug in the product name and show me all the different prices from around the web but to take things to the next level you can install a browser extension that will show you price comparisons for anything you're shopping for on the web two great options for this are invisible hand and price blink I've got price blink installed here on my computer and it picked up an ebay buy it now offer on that camera for 222 dollars plus free shipping assuming it's new and the sellers legit that sounds like a great deal but what if you want an amazing deal well if you've got more time than money you can set up a price alert on any product that will automatically email you when the price drops below a set amount sites like dealnews price Pink's or decide will do exactly that once you've tracked on a price you're happy with there's a good chance you can still nickel and iron that price down a little bit more there's a place to enter a coupon code go to a site like current codes ebates or retail me not to see if there's a valid code that you can use another way to save some money is to tracked on a site that will offer you the best price with free shipping amazon in particular offers free two-day shipping on many items if you enroll in there amazon prime program but it costs seventy nine dollars a year unless you know a few tricks there's a free one month trial that can get from amazon.com / Prime but if you're a parent Ana's on.com slash mom will give you a three month trial and if you're a college student amazon.com / student will give you a one-year trial but the best way to get on prime is to find someone in your family who is already paying for it amazon allows up to four family members to share one prime membership of course they bury this feature under the account settings but it's there if you look hard enough finally counter to what I said at the beginning of this video if it's the holidays and the pressure is on and you're stumped for ideas try a daily deal site these are clearing houses for random stuff but the deals are legit and it can be great when you're at a loss for what to buy someone so it's like woot cyber monday got a deal slickdeals and fat wallet they're all worth a shot if you're in a pinch so there you go those are my best online shopping tips for the holidays or year round for cnet com I'm Tamil Bell go spend some money record i will take a juicer or a snuggie as a present from anyone it's like still in man gave me a snuggie that's fine have you seen the cheetah print one so you seen the cheetah print once camel oh I have the leopard camel yeah yeah there's there's a camo one I saw in Oregon last Christmas and I was like that's actually functional but yeah it's awesome like at all right I have a little I this is a snuggie liss home that I live in fix that what type of cold world is do you live now I know yourself I don't want to live a little but the the advice that I gave you right there in that video about getting on amazon prime account getting was it for members on one account find your old your uh your long-lost grandpa uncle or something yeah within four families absolutely also though you might run in an awkward situation where someone you added on amazon prime you're no longer seen so you have to take them off that can feel good that i can you take it happens guys get over the break-up hi happens guys sucks for her family I on time uh yeah sucks / because you know you actually allocate how they're related to you so you can choose like sister parrot significant other did it it it a haha interesting little trivia today so far just since it's cyber monday IBM's digital analytics benchmark showing a 25 point six percent jump in online sales day from the same time last year and iphone mobile shopping is driving most of that sales increase in fact the iphone is driving more retail shopping than any other device there you go 8.3 percent as for that report it was helpful I've got a question here from google plus actually is I've seen it twice now for two different people wanna know about the Chromebook is a Chromebook a worthy gift to give a receive I suppose the gift must leave uh samsung chromebook new generation is it is the Chromebook finally become a giftable item you better explain exactly what it does before you give it to someone cuz they're gonna be like no it one goes on the internet that's all it does super easy goes on the internet actually i have i well okay the one person I know is thinking of giving Chromebooks as a gift does work for you of course they do all right all right in case you aren't familiar with the Chromebook i'm sure you are because you're watching this stream right now but just in case that's the google OS operating system it's a google OS laptop so it it just runs an OS that is essentially a browser and I actually do think that the Chromebook is a really good gift idea for that person in your life who only gets online for four oddly enough for parents or somebody like anybody who you would give a tablet but the problem is then why wouldn't you give them a tablet exactly the Chromebook cost way more than a tablet way more but more yeah yeah i think the Chromebook is isn't as a good gift if you maybe for a student or for you know a parent but it's not doesn't scream fun you know what are you talking about least in the sense that tablets being less expensive and also being more optimized for games and kind of just mobile entertainment 100 cells fun I think you need a better battery life of a tab with annual yeah yo yo you will you will you will I'm just messing with you I wouldn't want to Chrome if someone gave me a Chromebook for Christmas I'd say thanks and that re-gift it oh I'm keeping it real no I know even the coil I would do even though even the Chromebook that we say is the one that we've been waiting for as in like oh it's finally here it's good and it's you know it's lightweight its thin it's inexpensive it starts at two hundred fifty dollars which is cheaper than a tablet starts it's a good extra computer for people who are who in the cloud already who have all those google services I mean there are definitely people who can really benefit from a Chromebook it's just sort of hard to understand why it's where is it where does it fit now where does it fit especially if you're okay with it fits for someone who really needs to have a keyboard right like they would love to have a tablet but that touchscreen keyboard thing is just super annoying yeah I'll buy them a case with a keyboard for like 50 bucks it's a tough one and it feels cheap they feel cheap that's our biggest complaint is like it's two hundred fifty dollars and you can tell well yeah you know here's the nexus 10 399 doesn't feel that cheap although one of our reviews that it did yeah it's pretty it's pretty sorry though I mean it may feel platt haven't we're dreaming about the finish on the back of it yea the fez a rubbery the rubbery yeah you're Erik loves it man but it feels like a weird yeah like uh I was me taking the sticker off by the way we got it stick the leather and some like you know the unwrapping oh my god we unboxed it a little tiny bit just now so you got another another Google question a lot of people asking about video game stuff people asking about the ps3 vs xbox which is going to be a better purchase which one we go with well it depends on what you want to do it always it always cut right doesn't always come down to that there's never a clear answer but they to put it in the you know three bullet points if you want better online gaming and you want a better motion gaming experience with the Kinect get an xbox if you want free online gaming that's not as good but you want a blu-ray player and arguably some overall better exclusive games that are on the ps3 get a ps3 that's I mean they're both great machines you're gonna all the third party tiles are gonna be on both but uh that when i when my buddy says I want to play online games the most then you want to get an xbox even though you have to pay for the service it's just better than sony's a free online service from a stability standpoint from the way that you connect with people it's just a lot cleaner better but if you don't care about online gaming get the ps3 you get a blu-ray player a player I really want the best rated blu-ray players even to this day because it's completely firmware updateable uh it's it there are no made there have never been any glaring issues with it it's a top top notch blu-ray player actually into space not the question which is my dad wants a 3d blu-ray player which one's the best the pissed is he yeah I mean yeah well I think there's two answers either the ps3 or the cheapest one that you can find because really I mean n you know not like a $29 off Brad the cheapest name-brand blu-ray player that you can find between now and next week is probably the best one to get if it's not going to be a ps3 because they're all pretty good now I mean there's some sort of different years because it's probably it's probably passing through the same 3d signal digital signal to your television when your television to do the decoding right like there's probably I can't imagine as much of a difference in 3d blu-ray and technology at the player level correct correct to the coating for the TV's probably be different from her yeah the way the way the TV displays it that's depending on you know how much contrast ratio it has you know some some of that technology the anti-glare blah blah blah mom that's good that's gonna do you know showcase that the best but the signal you're right is gonna be the same to be fair are our highest to be give you a more specific answer are our top rated blu-ray player still is the sony playstation 3 super slim but that's two hundred and sixty bucks so if you are looking at something that's a little bit cheaper the sony bdp s 590 is has built in 3d and then actually the LG BP 620 does 3d the best if that's really what you're looking for both of those have built-in Wi-Fi although the LG doesn't have an amazon instant or some of the video server some of the video services so if you really want it all in one box sony the BB ps5 90s probably way to go i would say though I just personally that's how I want to spend my retirement is just getting addicted to games you know I just wanna be plugged into because I've been putting it off right now I'm trying to like not get involved in game addiction but i think my retirement years that's gonna be the perfect time to really go call of duty i can tell you that he or whatever it is gonna do that ecology sometimes i wish i was where you are because it's like sad when it's 1230 and you should probably go to sleep but you're itching to finish that game yeah like Assassin's Creed 3 right now man and you go and you play that game til 230 right and then you realize what did I just do and you come into work around ten o'clock and then and then you need to get scolded by then you take a little nap ski in your office there are there actually power naps that are very effective studies of Priya a 15 minute power nap is a good recharger which I do often here's a here's one that's near and dear to my heart a question from google plus Alton writes in and says guys retina 13 or 15 for portable use for a photographer or should I wait for an air update instead I know several photographers who were super bummed that the macbook pro update was not a 17 inch that's actually what as a pro photographer you probably want so then but then if you want something portable 13-inch I would I mean add a photographer friend who went for the the most recent version of the ipad the ipad 4th generation just to show it off because like for showing off like wedding photos to like a client yep that's kind of a better way to go because they can see if they can kind of run through the slideshow physically and it it's kind of a better presentation device but if you're actually doing editing you know you're really using it for the software yeah that's not i think the other thing to consider is if this person who's writing us in is actually asking about not only for displaying pictures but actually using it the big difference between the 13-inch macbook pro retina and the 15-inch is that the 15-inch has the discrete graphics card that'll allow you if you're using high-end media apps to be able to take advantage of that have more juice and horsepower behind that to aid you where the 13 doesn't yeah now there's a big cost difference between a 13 and a 15 retina but if you're looking at for not only displaying your pictures on a Retina display but also using the machine to its best capabilities in your multimedia person I would depending on how much cheddar you got on that Bank I would push towards the 15 a little bit for those reasons I would absolutely recommend the 15 over the 13 because i don't think the 13 is I think the 13 for one thing is way too much money for what you're getting way too much money like it's basically a six-hundred-dollar premium over a standard macbook pro just for the screen and that to me is not a good value especially because like you said it doesn't have the horsepower to be a truly professional grade processing machine machine I think that if you're looking for a portable donalds absolutely right the ipad is the best way to show off your portfolio and then invest in a really good editing machine at home that doesn't have to travel with you Donald bells writes all I heard I didn't say that I think mom I to you if you really do but if you do intend to be affordable I think its tongue is right you got it you got to spend the extra money for the 15 because if you if it's your craft it's a better machine for the record she said tongue was right she just said Donald mission oh right I did now you're both right I like you both equally you're both adorable you're both super cute and the 13-inch macbook pro with retina is a ripoff it's the I mean if I was actually it was it was one of those things they didn't mention in the keynote when they revealed it that it didn't have the same graphics processing power and they're trying to push the retina as their new Pro high on machine but this 13-inch really isn't necessarily a pro high on machine so nope it's a ripoff is what it is okay um Tech Talk 3494 twitter asks us what's your favorite bluetooth speaker favorite bluetooth speaker come on jambox the jayhawks is nice and small don't want a box oh yeah it's actually not I do I'd actually the logitech boombox the less expensive one bigger I think you better audio performance uh yeah I really like that I like to both I like to even before when I have the dock connection then I went bluetooth logitech boombox that's it what a you know one of the up-and-comers that some people know about some people don't we've talked about this sonus has their bluetooth speakers now they're not completely wireless because you have to for at least the main unit you have to physically plug it in but on what do you think about sonos is the sonos three line do we have it your ex got the song I got it right here Oh though what a look at that that it that is on our list that's on our top 10 list yeah then one of the cool things about this speaker setup is that using an iPhone or an Android phone it enables you to get access to rate audio radio streaming services like Pandora that you can control directly through your phone so not only is it a Bluetooth speaker connection with your phone's library but also these other third-party apps that really give it a lot of extra power and you know capabilities and functionality and it's obviously pricier than well I don't know even if it's pricier than the jambox actually the boombox the logitech boombox you mentions about a hundred bucks this is the sonos is 300 but like brian says you can get a lot more functionality out of it and it looks pretty the sonos is they've always they don't have a single product that sounds bad like they out there they really maintain the sound quality throughout the entire line now technically I don't know if they work over Bluetooth at all like I think the entire system is is like a Wi-Fi like a mesh network Wi-Fi thing there's an ecosystem is there speak the speaker and talk to speaker to speaker right right yeah that that one's Wi-Fi it's really is the whole the whole thing is like if you want to just take yourself out of the proprietary like each of the Apple you know airplay chase which is probably going to keep changing even though you got airplane now it's still expensive and you never know what they're going to do down the road there's gonna be here play to worse give up on airplane go back to bluetooth that something that's like this is one way to just like take yourself out of that and just know that it's going to work over Wi-Fi with whatever kind of phone that you have your spouse may have it all is going to work with this system and it sounds great yeah and what Donald was referencing when he talked about the mesh network if you're not familiar with what sonos does is you can have multiple speakers in your home that are connected via Wi-Fi and then through your phone say play this on my bedroom speaker but I don't want it on this living room size you move around your house you're able to direct which speaker in that room with the right appropriate label plays from your phone so that's pretty cool and there's some advanced stuff you can do to like if you had if you had two of these you can set them up as like a stereo pairs right if you have multi you can you can and from the app you can say you know I want you know this playing in the upstairs bedroom and I want his playing downstairs in the kitchen yeah you did wanta I'm on these idea to like a stereo pair I want these so uh Hugh caught all kinds of different products well he's turning red guises she's mad she should matching her little purple because in my mind I made the worst but yeah they're the stuff you can do with these speakers that you can't do with airplay at least not yet or Bluetooth and they always sound you know the thing you're talking about a airplay to point o or whatever it ends up being you know Google's working on their own open standard for to kind of because Apple has this whole airplay thing locked down right there trying to do within their own ecosystem but Google's trying to build you know their own Center that's open there's there's one that already exists is like DeAndre yeah the deal it DLNA but they have another one that they're integrating into jelly bean which allows you to throw to any TV that's gonna be able to have this so they're trying to work on their own standard you know we'll see who wins I don't want anybody to have their own damn standard I just want either Bluetooth or Wi-Fi to win like why is this so why is this so hard why does wireless streaming have to be a standard and I almost one day like you almost want to back away from Bluetooth even because Bluetooth gets so complicated and even that is something that should be way easier it is and so I think the fact that sonus is Wi-Fi has a lot that suggests sore read that that is a big check in the plus column for so knows but i still i heart i don't care i love the jawbone jambox i think it's totally pretty little one is 130 dollars it's super portable like you can take it you can travel I mean it depends on what you want the speaker for i'll also say on my list of best in the section on seeing this list of best gift ideas under fifty dollars which is on the scene at Holiday Gift Guide uh that you can buy bluetooth adapters for your stereo your existing stereo or maybe even like your old iphone dock that no longer works with your iphone 5 lightning connection you want to do something with it thirty dollars you can buy the little bluetooth adapter it looks like a little miniature you know Apple TV and you can just have it hanging out in the back of your stereo and then you can use as a wireless Bluetooth speaker with whatever you already got well you know what I like I like where you're going with this because we have the a few lists here that you know we're probably winding down a little bit that we want to talk about just because we're always timeout big-ticket 300-plus dollar items but what about some of those other cool things that are under fifty dollars under $100 somewhere around there because that's I mean that's that's good enough for a lot of people if you like someone a little bit but not three hundred dollars get on one of these all right I think almost nobody likes anybody three hundred dollars this year so so hack it I love that idea so I will just take kind of take a look at this M if we have once you're able to pull up the under 50 under fifty dollars list and one of the ones that Donald just mention the first one on the top list the belkin bluetooth music receiver yeah like you said little mini apple TV looking guy yeah Logitech's got 12 they're not telling me to not pay me to say that but you can find a couple different versions of that same kind of they also have next I should get on the grift and I could get skinny you should ipod shuffles next one on the list we all know about that yay sansa clip sit sit the senses better way to let their still kid there's still kicking best my that's my burn after reading mp3 player right there like you can get it for audio recording is on that too I yeah I mean it's the onion is the UH Nile you can get a lot of features on there seriously it may not be the sexiest thing I think it's kind of cool but getting a universal remote we have the logitech harmony 300 under 50 bucks yeah the fact that that's now under 50 bucks i think is key because it's a eight this is the only one that's even remotely easy to use and i'm not gonna say it's easy yeah yeah yes i have still although they tout it as being super simple with the web setup i have definitely seen people cursing on Christmas morning and there's a version of that like another fifty dollars it has a little built-in LED screen yeah so yeah yeah this model starts at thirty dollars it only controls for devices which is plenty for most people a TV cable box xbox and then like a streaming box of some sort you're pretty much good yeah or a DVD player so you guys kind of take a look at those under fifty dollars gifts um let's go check out should we check out like little under one hundred dollars yeah it was under 100 let's assume you're gonna spend just a teeny bit more because maybe this is someone that you didn't get into a beef with or something like that maybe you guys are actually cool for the whole year I just I like the I like the dramatic back stories that come along with all the times my decisions well one girl that I broke up with that caveat i was on primary water she's getting out under 50 but like my mom I've never met her so like we're still friends right where we we left on civil you know on civil terms maybe I'll kick her like a thirty-dollar logic logitech harmony Ramon this is awesome use it somehow get out of here alright so under a hundred dollars this is now this is definitely mom territory right yeah yeah talk cuz I see let's be real like unless you're awesome and you by your parents a huge TV I don't know who would do that some people will I'm sure my mom would like a neat would use an e-reader a lot more and enjoy the flexibility of it so come on guy don't know if my mom would use if she'd feel fancy though she like I haven't even eater you need to get your mom fancy that's all right I do think if you have not gotten your parents an e-reader yet it's the easiest yeah its best possible gift in the world like go get we done and done I know Lee boom kindle 2012 69 bucks now this is not the one with the paperwhite technology on it this is just a standard ereader still I would say that the paperweight came up on our list of the top 10 sure because that is a really good gift if you've heard a category that's been kind of like an for a while that the whole backlit screen thing is the only reason I think that's a big selling point for people and that's not that much more hundred nineteen dollars not a bad price the only reason I'm against the paperwhite is because I had a glow light that I love and then the paperwhite punk'd it the paperwhite you know the contrast is good is better the clarity of the text is better and I'm sorry I just hate that don't you hate it when you get one of those I don't you hate it when you get one upped I don't understand her okay well c'mon soon I am I am but I'm just saying like you know i love my glow light barnes and noble holla at me you know showing his stuff but the glow light on the glow light was the first on the barnes and noble a simple touch and I was like oh my gosh this is amazing and at the time I remember Amazon CEO said we dropped the ball we were behind on that and then they started pushing are they they figured out the whole paper I and then I saw a paper on I'm like animals you're basically mad because it's so good it is it's really good so you know take that in into account as you hear how many bad about it I'm saying it's a great really know it's a great product but you know 120 bucks is almost double what you can get what you pay for the entry level which is now $69 I mean that is a freaking remarkable price and i gotta say there are still the parents out there who don't have my dad just i gave him one last year just last year and he was he still talks about how awesome it is like the thing you know that Kendall yeah me and if you just trying to date someone that that's a good gift too it's not too aggressive unless you preloaded with other category of gift we don't have to have that category on the scene a holiday gift guide tonight can I great BTW zzz holiday gift guide lady right here please i recive gets to buy your potential new girlfriend alyssa i like you but I don't love you I like you but I don't love you ding communities not that much pretty neutral Apple to this is a big commitment here apple TV ninety nine dollars and the reason why is if you're buying an apple TV you're telling someone that I want to spend time with you on a couch that's a big commitment guys yeah so I will TV you might want to be careful what you do with all right just do the whole restless though stay with Roku I assume Roku has the same caveats same caveats I mean you know the thing about the Roku's like pretty much if you're already in an Apple ecosystem and you're like I'm gonna get your Roku think you're kind of like being chief but if you're not in the educational ecosystem you're saying let's snuggle on the couch watch movies together but Roku awesome videos more video services than the apple TV could even know spit out barnes & noble nook simple touch i think says i don't want to be your tech support take it to the store the good one for mom then yeah like i like the interface though on the simple touch the most their physical and touch is awesome it is really really good true but I'm invested in a lot of kibble all right Molly if someone gave you the logitech wireless solar keyboard k760 that says we're not dating that says like you know I like you in really practical way but I don't like you like that it could be is a good dad gift though cuz that's kind of neat that's it's got the solar both in power so that you can you know it's super cool but it's definitely for family or friends there's no this is not you will not get any by giving anyway this is not the gift that will give back if you know what I'm saying oh sorry ah highly inappropriate on the other hand the logitech ue mobile boombox the one that you mentioned that's on her under hundred dollars left list and I think that's a good one cuz that says like baby I know how you love your bubble bath are you gonna put that in the bubble bath while i scrub your back okay we go to the bathroom so we can have some bubble bath using down with that mm-hmm nothing says I love you more than the seagate backup plus it's a one terabyte hard drive that looks sleek and smooth it says keep your dirty pictures offline don't want them in the cloud I will I don't know why I mean like the voice of squeaky clean over here by would sit there is like we are off the rails there is a good thing that thing that's actually a great gift for a new parent because uh oh it does automatic uploading of all the photos on your hard drive up into flickr and facebook it like it takes care of the archiving of your photos and like a want just like plugging it in at the end of the night um and you know especially for new parents who are worried about like how do i backup my photos that is a great gift to get working ok my brother uh mr. Beecham i actually have an update because while we were doing the show i asked our editor extraordinaire matthew miskovic directly what was his pick for the best stand-alone blu-ray player because you know we should get sometimes you can't get access to experts um Steve and I put it right under our top 10 list you can go to that link and according to mr. Matthew miskovic as of April twelfth editor's choice he calls it the panasonic DMP BDT 220 really this is right now pricing wise around one hundred dollars he said I could find you said I'm a note real quick and tell him to update the best blu-ray player the good built-in Wi-Fi 3d compatible issue it's right there you know why I didn't oh and 3d compatibility I didn't see that about the 3d compatible get admission we're just throwing something on the list though it's he already updated the list really we can do whatever we want on the show you're fed i still want to get him in trouble no you're not you you almost did but you he's fine I saved it the viera connect all their other streaming media services Netflix Hulu Amazon Instant I mean come on in speaking and or a human the TV by the way my brother's TV that I was going on and on about that has me like sitting on his couch all the time is the LG LM six seven hundred LG LM 6700 all right that TV is so good-looking that it makes me hate my TV which is a really nice TV but it has like no bezel is so pretty yeah when there's a little s bezel the better I did not I brought on a lot of tablets I did not bring in a mini violin for Miss Molly wits probably amazing TV 8999 that Sears I know my teeth there's nothing wrong okay you know what I think you know we're wrapping up and in the show I think that take a moment to think about it but if you had to get a gift a tech gift and it could be anything from someone this holiday season think about it what would you guys want like really like seriously wait well if what we want to get yeah yeah what would you give no no what was okay fine you want to do a one and I just wanted clarification I want to be selfish yeah what so Beach I'm you're in this too right you think about it what would be a gift that you would love to receive for this holiday season that's a 10 gift by the way we don't mean I've always on TV and then to it I know by the way my brother's TV has a terrible review by the way it's only like uh huh it's like the worst 3d on the market what you buy for an enemy with ghosting effect so blah blah that is the private good see that's what but here's the thing right okay think about what you said most people mhm and it's not even that you're blind cuz you're not know but that's you can't really I mean you can't tell those eslam p is the one that's in your time like once you get it out of the store away from all the other TV yeah then it's gonna look fantastic definitely okay where's the best Tekkit it could be any oh say how about this under 500 bucks don't send these to us by the way no no no honestly I'm trying to get some out of this okay for an hour you didn't even call us today I know hemel they're all busy shop I was looking to make a new friend it did I I know what I want ok be chimer you've been thinking about this yeah I've been thinking about it ok i wanna i would like to hear your gift ok i would be a gift that keeps on giving for you this holiday season mr. Beecham I've been I want a big-ass TV that 13 DTI let me to the 3d thing so I mean that would be something cool under under five hundred dollars what wait wait a bigger be like wet under 40 inches or so for three TV under 40 inches under 500 bucks that's not possible not possible ok I mean that that's a fantasy it doesn't need to be 3d just ok good size well you know um 700 might get you there I'm gonna say if you want a good size most people will say like if they get a 45-42 they wish they got a 55 I'm just saying for the long run I really feel like it I'm not even being like snobby guy here but I think really a 50 55 is like for the long run because you're gonna have this TV 5 to 10 years ideally right yeah i think i've had my current one is like 32 or some man you have a seen the world yet the skills gentleness ya know i'd recently just went even only 246 smells like you I don't want to talk about the size time yeah I got cuz people just think I mature I thought you good huh I thought it was a refrigerator I mean your refrigerator God delivers the Stevie was delivered during an episode of bol he couldn't because he was he skyped in but he didn't want anyone to know that he was getting like a huge as ourselves like I'm waiting for delivery of my refrigerator and I remember watching it when sky police unlike scamper to the Dory like skip to the door when the guy came oh cuz it was still rolling yeah yeah yeah and then he was like nobody like nobody like it's a fridge it was a huge one and he still hasn't shared with us exactly how big that whether we don't even know this big secret no sony made refrigerator panasonic that's an amazing plasma rumerator no but I mean seriously though i would say 50 to 55 i think the long run no you like with probably like seven eight hundred dollars you could find well if you want a 3d one honestly is probably gonna be more like a thousand twelve hundred but if you don't care about 3d i'm trying to convince you to not get about 3 D CIR see all he had me sold molly was going off about the Avengers amazing fun 3ds fun but it's not for everyone so uh oh my god I miss you so much i miss you guys day that's that's more because i like i like how the show degenerates to literally no one watching guys what do you want is room right yeah what do you want is like forget you forget answering your questions on Twitter uh mr. Jason math or what's the best car tech wise howdy BMW Audi a8 oh yeah that's the best part for tech okay 370 are not okay or or rider Allen hangouts are pretty cool thanks for tweeting the link thanks for not writing us a quick a criterion fun don't tease that listen run I should you want for christmas BTW oh I'm sorry I got to go die why I don't want to make mention cuz I don't know if we actually said this or not and I feel like in in Google's you know promotion here we should know the user should know that the number one gift that we did on the top 10 was be Nexus 7 yes oh yeah we never even talked about that right yeah re one of the stone the top ten just looks really so we mentioned the 3m streaming projectors just like for the person who has everything number nine those audio technica fifty-dollar headphones number eight was the panasonic lumix dmc s7 sz7 camera which is basically just top just super it's a super know and it had the leica lens has really good wide angle lens really echoed in a resume it's probably the best optical zoom you're gonna find its 20x only one appointed she I don't wanna shoot is remarkable sona's play three comes in at number seven the panasonic tc-p st50 is our best overall TV pick iphone 5 at number five roku LT at number four the fifty-dollar model by the way right over there chill roku LT Drey perennial favorite thank you then comes the kindle paperwhite then comes the samsung galaxy s3 beats out the iphone because this is read it does more I'm sorry what did not read and then at number one with so the runner up to number one was the ipad mini making our number one gift pick this holiday the Nexus step yeah it's kind of anticlimactic when the screens i am the screens it could be any of good oh is it one wait this one wait is it this one which tablet mean I was what goblet was that I don't even raining tablets this year have no idea what you're doing is the amazing one okay my gift for this holiday season that I really want I want a nexus 7 32 gig with cellular connection so I can throw it into my car looking to get it customized into the dash and Google should just jump on doing like their own like like connected GPS they shouldn't apps like just if you could buy google maps for your car that's what that's what I wanna should just make a really sweet velcro mouth for the nexus 7 because there are those like if you get in some of those rigs and you'd start to use the navigator like a nice tape my phone here Yeah Yeah right but it's cool just have an in-car that's a good call yeah like that I feel like paperwhite I would go that is both a gift I would like to get and also a gift I think would be good to give Amazon but that means i more than like you gentle paperweight look that's a commitment I don't mind more things you have to get it for me a four way I was gonna be generous this holiday season but you're kind of a jerk today so oh oh I did turn on the screen on the Nexus 7 yeah uh you know what I would like to get for Christmas this year actually is a samsung galaxy note 2 oh you know what I'm not even read on that I'm not even hang on that i weirdly fell in love with that phone i loved it i'm so sad that it broke because i loved it no you know what I'm gonna tell you we just did a prize fight with it that phone like from a Productivity standpoint sure there is a learning curve involved but once you learn that thing it's amazing I know you can do so the split screen feature on it that you could split screen a skype call while taking notes like that's that was what blew my mind a little bit yeah yeah or Google call sorry is a google video call right we'll video call the top half and take notes or you know surf the web so you could be like hey talking to someone looking up some information about like directions or restaurants that's crazy yeah i mean i really do think hey you know I've really realized a friend of mine said perfectly the other day she was like I don't want a smaller tablet I want a bigger phone and I was like yes they make that's exactly what I want the bigger full she wants like a six neck she's like I would like a six and a half inch with a built-in this is actually really smart she's like I want a six or seven inch phone that has a built-in bluetooth headset that charges all the time so you never have to charge it like it's always charge and you just pop it out and you put anyway samsung galaxy note 2 I can't stop thinking about that phone we had this little brief love affair and that I dropped it out of a car and broke it on purpose which was I know a bad way for us to break up but you're abusive come back to me note 2 I loved you you're BN you know what this size for you know I'm not being I'm not gonna this is not sexist but you have a person first you carry a purse I don't know how big it is them no no no no the note fits quite five also you know what I wanted them I want those I want the chief asked lightning connectors to come out someday soon yeah i can buy myself a car charger just ordered one for five dollars on amazon Derek one yeah I was otherwise all the reviews said that it works with a lightning connector lightning like a cable yeah yeah what's the cable pardon my use USB I feel like a loser I bought one of those $29 caves example I got one for 550 three I do I do um I must admit though that they charge really fast yeah my phone charges like in less than an hour I swear I look at that thing I'm like whoa I was not like discharge really fast not a serious totally no I was out like 10 and then I put it in for like maybe 45 minutes also about like 70 I'm like what the hell happened I'm definitely never I'm I refuse I refuse to buy them from Apple so I've been waiting for the third party knockoffs to come out so I'm thrilled that you told me that because I was like I'm not doing it but all I want is a longer freakin cable because really you guys the way that you're going to squeeze more money out of me is to make a 4-inch bring a lightning cable connect without that was where the things in the review demo storage cable what do you timeout I don't know the one that comes with the phone is like this long like it's just so well that was then they charge more for the longer one that was a thing in the reviews is that the cables not as long as when you get with the phone it's not oh I want a clarisonic well anyways but oh yeah since we're on the talking about cables don't buy a thirty fifty or sixty or a hundred dollar hdmi cable this year don't do it if you are oh yeah if you fuck her you are I do do your dumb you're like your doodoo and your dumb like Amazon is there they actually are started making their own hdmi and digital optical audio games on basic live 50 what are you gonna do mm-hmm monster yeah get out of here please don't well that's adrenaline one who'd be impressed by that depending on how much you want to impress them hey baby I got a monster gold-plated cape go play they were plated Kate weaved cable you know those videos we watch gold plate on the roku that's hot plate that says you want her to be a kept woman tune in next year for more relationship and gift buying it back I think I think make sure we're gonna go all out and kind of build a relationship slashed gift rating system what's just okay guys do you have anything else no no good i have a meeting yeah I gotta go to ok guys thanks for hanging out with us at this Google hangout for our holiday gift guide if you guys feel like tweeting us Molly's at Mollywood Donald's at Donald Brian's at brian Tong Stevens at Stephen Beecham yeah avid dis also say be sure to check out the scene at Holiday Gift Guide over at cnet com for best under 100 best under 50 best overall gifts for everybody holiday dot cnet com is that a dress and then watch your local listings for the cnet special tongue is in there Bridget's in there everybody gets a little cameo in the cnet holiday shopping special that I believe some people already saw this thanksgiving weekend because it's not some tweets about it but will be area it'll be airing all leading up to christmas though alright guys that's gonna do it that's gonna do it all right so you guys have a great holiday happy cyber monday member you