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and good morning on monday march twenty at this time for episode 196 of the 359 podcast and another packed house of the 18 we've got been factored but rather chang and joni salzman good morning everybody how would you be morning morning good morning that did not send intro John has has had a difficult couple of days I have two boys in a couple times I'm sorry I'll give you a break this Wow while on assignment I mean that's like the worst thing i've been i've had food poisoning while on a trade shows when you're not at home that just just a terrible terrible situation being that is yet to happen to me but now I have to go find some wood good well now you have to get her three times because well I've had boys she's edgewise so yeah you got three times in one show actually oh what's that embassy yes for three days and have only happy boys I think this all time Brad you eat the catering that we have pretty religiously then maybe got a high chance to get sick it could happen I do eat the catering it's I'm kidding Peter's fine all right let's get back on topic yeah I'm sorry everyone work so we're not just talking about food poisoning today we will be talking about poisoning tag the galaxy SI and Bixby samsung's new digital assistant is it gonna be you know is it gonna be series it gonna be Alexa I hope it's not serious about ebay there's some news about that that they're gonna do guaranteed shipping and with the five people who buy from ebay right out by the way crappy on ebay i buy on ebay so you have to your your the e-commerce guy and also Jones here to talk about South specified yeah not food points nothing poison on foodborne illness parts of South by wish i'm sure are exciting and not filled with lawmen so yeah sleeplessness well they've got most people there they are filled with it's a very there's a lot of alcohol that's true a lot of right all right i should assume that pass out five all right we're off the rails on we're already off to a great start on Monday all right so as always if you have any questions about in these topics leave them in the comments section Brian will pick out the best and we'll answer them in three minutes 59 seconds I probably a little more you've already given up on our timing constraint all right we try from exactly 3 minutes and 59 seconds we'll be back to answer your questions and comments in the chat go ahead and file them we'll see you in three two welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top text of the day and all the crap you want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon I'm Joanie salzman say hello to big speed samsung it's given scene up the details on its new digital assistant which will show up in the galaxy s eight samsung envisions bixby showing up in all of its products eventually activated with a touch of a button so not not necessarily by a voice then you're you're the digital assistant expert what do you make of this it's there a little late to the game and they're using this button which i think is interesting I mean like the whole concept is voice activation that's supposed to make things a lot easier like if you're washing the dishes or you're holding two babies like you do in my house then the concept of voice activation is really really useful so I'll be interested to see how people use this maybe they said a little bit differently than they would Siri or alexa i don't have real issue with it being on the phone I think it's when you put it on other appliances like washing machines refrigerate button there like that seems to make a little bit lessons to me yeah I it's it's also like how is this going to affect Google assistant and Alexa because LG has made a really big push into saying like hey we're gonna use Amazon Alexa across all of our stuff right um now with bigsby coming out it seems as though samsung wants to gain greater control and they don't want to Alexa to go in there or Google assistant so um yeah I would I would expect that to happen and that seems to be like what Samsung would probably want to do because there's Samsung all right next up you know there's some news from ebay yeah so watch out amazon ebay is guaranteeing 3-day shipping on 20 million items starting this summer this actually highlights something that eBay has already been doing but it took them apparently a couple years to really say hey we we do fast shipping just like Walmart just like Amazon so that mean the 20 million items is that everything that's sold on ebay know there are more than like a billion listings on ebay but for the professional sellers this is a way for them to really show off that they're able to ship you stuff in three days or less and can actually guarantee it and you said most of this stuff actually the vendors that are on the site or actually the same ones who sell em some yeah so if you're buying during the holidays like you might buy from the same vendor whether it's amazon or ebay or best buy or walmart but i think a lot of people do tend to go to Amazon because they think it's faster shipping but at the same time you really are buying from the these same vendors in the back end so this is a way for you betta like maybe just let people know like hey buy from us to like it's the same stuff from the same people all right lastly Jen got back from South by Southwest what were some of the biggest highlights from the show it was uh it lasts up but usually as it was kind of circus Joe Biden showed up and talked about his cancer initiative there's a lot to talk about VR and AI and and kind of the geekiest highlights the game of thrones showrunners we were interviewed by back to the place on sun aria on stage was a lot of fun any any juicy details uh they announced that ed sheeran will be making a cameo in this upcoming season of Game of Thrones which is exciting for Arya's actress she's a business it's really kind of cute like they wanted to get him on the show because she's such a big fan I wanted to do the sweet thing for the actress oh please oh oh yes so hope they killed on the show like from this not that I have anything against him what Aria kills him oh that would be pretty sweet actually that would be I don't know cheap wish be gushing wish me flushing as she like stabs him in the throat or something but I love your music uh anything else interesting a cool from the show you know it's always crazy um one thing that was I'm cool there's a lot of brands there and one of the funny things that one branded was Casper the mattress company they had these sleep pods where people could kind of go and take a nap and escape the chaos so one of the best things about South I was a way to pretend you weren't there that sounds perfect all right more of these stories check us out on cnet I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin I'm Jonas Olsson thanks for listening and we're back in the chat scoping through yahoo our new Oh a-one a-two and then for joining us as always where they getting the data for Bixby CIA NSA partnership anything else uh you know what it's unclear they weren't really that forthcoming with details initially I think we're going to hear a lot more about Bixby once the s8 gets formally announced which is next week in New York but for now we're not really sure where that where that day is coming from it well they do experience with doing like a worst voice assistant with s voice yes so they are one would assume that they're building off of that I hope not cuz that was terrible mm-hmm ok didn't really work well it just wasn't doesn't look great we do know it should be fairly limited I'd launch you know they announced they had bought a couple of startups did was notable one which was founded by one of the cofounders of Siri that isn't going to get integrated into Bixby right away I think that's going to come in later versions of the voice assistant okay here's a good question from regenerated Flavio right why does samsung use the Snapdragon processor here in the US but their own in-house uh eggs i knows it's an excellent exceptional check funny I we're just having this conversation I have a general answer to this do it they just lay us some wisdom on on-chip nerdiness okay so so generally with chips as with any type of supplier like Samsung gets it has I think like three different suppliers for its batteries hmm it's the same thing with 22 different suppliers for its batteries is the same thing with chips you don't want any one supplier to get too greedy and basically monopolize and that's why they probably wouldn't want to use Snapdragon across the board in one hundred percent of their devices so this is a way of keeping Qualcomm honest and also just making sure that they're getting the best price and staying competitive there's an element of branding to it I mean the fact that Samsung is the first one to get the snap set Snapdragon 835 which is the newest chip like the hardcore geeks are really going to get into that I mean it's not a matter to most people but like peoples there are certain segment the market that looks and go though it's got the news chip it's gotta be the fastest phone and make the purchasing decision based on that yeah yeah I mean like do people really make their purchase decision on getting certain areas some of re exactly like some of our readers to like the most hardcore pawn right people right also the most loyal customers yeah right so speaking of loyalty they want to know more about the samsung galaxy SI what can you say about the fingerprint sensor placement from what i understand i mean the rumors have it that it won't be in the home button like he used to be able being a bad back but not like not what do you think where the you know the pixel has haha thanks al has the pixel has a basic be in the center of the back i think this one is supposed to be a little bit higher up that's the rumor like closer to the camera lens which seems to make less sense to me because it'd be like awkwardly reaching for it or you can be hitting your camera lens by accident plus i think that's what the rumors say i'm not it's not confirmed we're not really sure yet we'll get more of the details next week but that's what i'm hearing the rumor is the new iphone in September is supposed to have it integrated into the screen right so it's gonna be in the front there's not going to be like an actual physical home button yeah the rumors for samsung was they tried to do this but like ran out of time figured out which actually kind of makes sense right that they're launching like six months early right other than the iphone so maybe a they couldn't figure it out in time mmm let's go ahead and from our early impressions about Bigsby Quincy wants to know if it's going to be equivalent to Google assistant where does it line up in the pecking order against Syria against Alexa against sorry to anybody who has an echo in the room right now no I would like hey I would say it's a probably premature to rank Bixby at the flicks we haven't really got a good chance to play with the butt in terms of those other assistants like what would you kind of rank them I think a lot of it really has to do with marketing right like they Apple oversold Siri they had all those like flashy commercials with celebrities that were basically like you can have a conversation with serious your can answer all your questions and the truth is is that like a generalized AI voice assistant just isn't quite there yet and that's why Syria is still very maddening to deal with because it's trying to answer what everybody gets the worse the bunch now right it is still really bad but the echo probably or Alexa doesn't answer a lot of your questions either right it's just they started from a much lower point like lower expectations and then built up from there so well now that I've started using an echo the only thing I ask really is play kids music right you play kids music unless the weather the weather yes timers yeah yeah but when I was in South by in a hotel for a week um every morning I wanted to be I wanted to say alexa i would say me like that one thing that i would have to pick up my phone and interrupt the emails that i was reading to look if i could just be like alexa what's the weather today Oh instead of like having to swipe yeah there's boring mundane things become the things that you really start to rely on true rather than you know having a conversation with Siri yeah nobody ever does no I mean I tried it she's all vertices so so to me what will be interesting with bigsby is how are they gonna sell it to people right you know and and at least my interpretation of it is if they at least set expectations reasonably low then maybe people will be you know like positive about about their experience with it they like a little bit more surprise that hey it does more than you know samsung sold it as have either of you guys were right to have you used google assistant at all yeah i have it i haven't used it what's your reaction to it uh it's definitely better in terms of mimicking the idea that treadmill a conversation i think it has been more conversational but i don't know i've only ever used it typing questions i've never actually like doing right yeah cuz it's on the pixel and I'd rather just type because I don't want people hearing my rations I want to know what it is our oh yeah ok Google what's this rat we have a good question from Jacob in the chat given how much Samsung is pushing big speed do you think we could see a push for Tizen OS messing around oh my god oh man isin so glad you asked that question because it's a chance for us to monetize a good more no no sorry question is not dead though is it it's not dead it said it's being used on their smart watch yeah like you don't worry it's no air balls I think it's in the TV's as well um but no in terms of you know phone OS I think that ship has sailed everyone's sort of sitting on Android it was a time when there was like a ton of firefox a boon to there's bunch of these OS is that kind of came out and tried to be the third viable option there are there is no third viable option at this point like it's all blackberry you know like Windows Phone they're all pretty much irrelevant just a note and sharp tip constr she did talk to in John Reeves the head of R&D he mentioned that he envisions bixby at least initially to be a bright psychic quote bright side kick I don't know that means to control your phone so it's it's really more about as less about search like Google assistant is and more about like activating apps on your phone or turning on the flashlight or something like I think it's more basic early on i think that the other stuff will come later but i can almost see Bixby and google assistant coexisting you just largely answered asad's question and said why is Bigsby needed when they already had google right so i think right now at least initially don't know where it's going to go the two can kind of coexist okay cool has also been a little bit more controlling over google assistant they brought google assistant to the pixel first right and what other phones well actually it was basically i got many every know every phone that's got the latest version of android now can download google assistant Oh g6 is the first one that has google system pre-loaded but if you've got the if you've got a early modern fos herbs are wasted enough OS usually now you have google as soon as opposed to like whatever okay yeah exactly the predecessor I think the thing is though is that that at least shows that like Google is going to keep google assistant at least early on for itself and that gives Samsung a very good reason to create something like bigsby because then they have control over that process and they can bring it out to their customers when they're ready to do it I mean the the skeptic in me is basically like Samsung has rolled out s versions of different services like ass voice in the past and they've all been pretty terrible so I mean they kind of have you know a tough job ahead of them to actually make this worth using let's try to get to a couple more questions before we wrap it up for the day sure Yaffe was asking is bigsby coming to other Samsung products like TV or as exclusive the essay there they say eventually it'll go to more products if enemies refrigerators may be anywhere that has an internet connection and a microphone washing machine yeah if there's if it's a smart washing machine yea big speaking uh can live there with the Bixby button gotta walk over your washing machine push that bun got to fix me right hello actually have a conversation with your watch I only makes me keep me company I have a question um this kind of breaks the mold I know Joan you were there you were sick you were working but did you get a chance to see an equal stage shows at South by this year um none of the stations but I went to so Spotify did these it's kind of cool spot if I did these super fans private recording sessions where people that are really big fans of certain artists as the you know info that they drew from there listening data they invited them to these secret recording sessions and so I went to one of those it was a band called the lemon twigs and they were super super super killer they were really great performers I'd never heard them before and they put on a really great show they also are one of those leg bands it's a super hard working artist that had like eight shows at South by um but yeah I didn't get to fit in a lot of music while i was there i did get to interview Grandmaster Flash which were just like oh yeah which is doing it's very doe does not whack at all these are terms that Grandmaster Flash would you like as everybody in the challenges while we say doped up and whack yes in this room it was great it was really cool back one let's get one more in on topic before we call today asad's asking will Bixby to the Java voice to typing kind of assistant because if we can do that then Bixby is going to win it all what you guys say about that hmm I don't know voice to typing basically a decision yeah education I mean like Shira does that to her start next time it was alright rate no it's not they're all they're all not that great with dictation actually Google assistant is better I wish I oh yeah in general Google listen I've never tried never tried to patient with without any of them actually well Syria did and didn't work and I just stopped using voice recognition obviously very difficult and comment or is right that if they nail that then people will be more likely to use bigsby because you know well yeah nothing's more annoying she saying his name Frank to Alexa a million times until she actually understands what you're saying if it's in a loud room then that happens a lot in my head and which do you find is no Sakura for you like in terms of all the assistant to use Google assess like the Google in the google app on my iPhone okay is the most useful but I don't use it in my house so there aren't my kids yelling and screaming around so Alexa has a high error rate in my house but it's also really loud there to claim their kids as usual yeah I just want to provide all the necessary contact and do you use Cortana lungs no I don't export I've had some experience with Cortana but um you know it's it's more like pc-based these days yes like Alexa and Siri and Google assistant are in a variety of different types of products yep alright so Assad we're we're waiting for your report on my desk as soon as the galaxy SI comes out nice looking forward to commentary before we wrap it up let's get one more plug in oh yeah upon episode 200 Roger to talk about no no it's my day we had a snow day yeah we lost ur day we lost our count so this coming Monday a week from today's episode 200 somehow of the 359 podcast and one of our favorite commenters will give you the brief version because we plugged us a couple of 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