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welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Joanie salesman apple helots worldwide developer conference on Monday and while we saw a lot of new features nothing really blew our minds I was definitely year when Apple was applying polish on its software as opposed to anything really jaw dropping right so one of the most interesting things we wanted to talk about was this initiative to Kachina use your iPhone les seems a little counterintuitive there are new options for its do not disturb app as well as a new screen time app that gives you a weekly report on your usage and most interesting way it actually allows you to set allowances for your kids and we're both parents Joan I know we're both parents of younger kids but I mean what do you think about this is this something that you see yourself using absolutely I'm gonna use it for yourself for myself and when Anna's make kids become old enough to become like destabilized by their phone that's definitely going to happen oh yeah I'm interesting also being very grateful for some of these features yeah I'm interested to see how disciplined I will be on screen time especially when you set a limit it's kind of interesting leo a warning will pop up if you've got five minutes left of your a lot of time on say Instagram I wonder if I just click like the ignore warning just keep going and it's something that people that are Apple investors yeah the public has been really demanding of the company to do yep they finally got around to it and it's just going to know that this fall is what Google's introduced they had a digital well-being app that's coming out for Android P does a very similar thing offers you sort of a status report on your usage all right so will Apple merge its Mac OS and iOS platforms well yes Apple answered right they said no but no no in a giant giant screen you'd be more unequivocal no but they kind of are it kind of yeah so they decided to bring their they're announcing that they're gonna bring iOS apps to Mac next year it's really kind of first hint that yeah these two platforms might be bridging right why do you think that they cuz ultimately these are gonna be they are I mean ultimately they will merge down the line don't you do you think it seems inevitable right at some point it may be further down the line then they'd like to admit but you know windows tried it didn't work out so well the first time around they're still kind of working on it but the idea that they all kind of work off the same architecture the issue here is you know iPhones and iPads run on a slightly different processor than Macs and so bridging the two has been complicated but they kind of have to write that's just sort of the having one solitary one one single consistent system seems like it's just so Apple right it's more it's simpler it's just easier for them to push one product all right so remember and emojis after the first month or so I stopped using them but there's a new feature in iOS 12 to turn yourself into a MIMO G or an an emoji a cartoon version of yourself so forget about talking poop or being a fox you can be a cartoon version of yourself to set this is very similar to what Samsung introduced a are emoji which Brian if they don't have you pick up there's a there's a nice took one of my kid that's a little weird but what the boy will have to wait until fall see how that you stack up but they were a highlight of the fall announcement last year what do you think of I'm disengaged with all these things but I know that you tried them out a lot more you yes yeah you've got a finger on the pulse of oh yeah although I'm an emoji Pro I mean use them religiously for about a month and my wife found them hilarious for a while but then after a while just became too much trouble that's the thing about they're all they're just novelty I think most of those things are just novelty and the point of novelty is it doesn't last yep all right more of these stories check us out and see that our motor change I'm Joanie Saltzman thanks for listening you want to try that one again real quick alright for more of these stories I'm Roger Cheng I'm Joanie Salzmann why did I just blank out there thanks for listening thanks for listening one more one more time for the recording we're more the stories check us out and seen it I'm Roger Chang I'm Joanie Salzmann thanks for listening know know that the countdown clock went was going no I can tell if I had Brad alright I'll cut you slack on that one we are out of practice sorry guys it's been it's been uh you know it's been a long couple weeks it has but it's nice to be back with everyone here how you guys doing for serious like I haven't caught up with you and literally almost two weeks us we're okay yes we're we're exhausted I mean WWDC was you know it took a lot out we'd be cranked out a huge amount of stories eight four pieces of pizza you a pizza I had well you ate four pieces of it that's that's actually kind of impressive in itself but yeah it's uh we're good I think we're good yeah I have to make the obligatory crack that you guys said what you mentioned something about a fox with the ant emojis and I can't help but notice that what's his name Craig in the in the keynote is it Craig something that that's exactly what I was singing is like he was a total silver fox there were a lot of yeah I mean the hair jokes they there were plenty of hair jokes yesterday it's a consistent theme throughout all Apple events you got to have Craig federighi hair jokes so uh while we wait for the chat to filter in and go ahead and submit your comments and questions and what your takeaway from WDC was and what your takeaway wasn't let's go ahead and pontificate if we will maybe we can editorialize just just a touch the one thing that I actually did think was kind of cool was the a our measurement app but that's because I'm in here doing the sets and working on all of our different layouts for the shows so to have this virtual augmented reality measurement system that I can kind of catalog would be incredibly helpful to my workflow what did you guys think was kind of cool and don't say n emojis are on might kick you off the show yeah the the Lego AR game was what seemed pretty awesome like yeah I think I'd quit I can't wait for my kid to play with it of course he's way too young to understand or appreciate that's true that's true though yeah this is just an easy way to get my kid even more addicted to my phone but now Apple has all these features to help you with that it's not gonna stop and move from going nuclear once like that that warning goes off like you've got five minutes left it's like no more Legos train well there's that too no I could actually click through the button I'll just override the warning I'm like yeah just keep on going I personally am very intrigued by the AR stuff I thought the Lego demo worked out really well they could I had a nice like I was actually I really appreciated the background music is very like disney-esque very kind of whimsical is kind of a nice break from all the the kind of highly technical stuff that kind of bookended it so I like the AR self the measurement thing you know I mentioned this to you before the show Brian that's been around for a while Google tango showed that off the implementation was decent but I always wondered if like how accurate really was because you you are kind of fully relying on just this your phone detecting it and and kind of spitting out some number I was always a little like is that the right number what if they like it glitched out somewhere and you were like an inch off on your measurements like that would screw up especially for you if you were building these sets I would screw you up if you were just like a centimeter off right true but sometimes just having that little bit of estimate would be very helpful because I mean I have a tape measure around a write stuff down like if I'm on the fly just trying to eyeball something to have an eyeball with a unit of measurement attached to it even if it is flawed would still be helpful but this is a very specific instance and I get that but I'm excited to see a are actually do something helpful because I just put Pokemon in my yeah let's go ahead and jump into the chat we got a good question from the vet Kumar do you think Siri can now compete with Google assistant I guess we're all on the same kind of topic here and we did actually see a little sea reaction in there she continues to underwhelm there very little very little sea reaction I would say like the shortcuts seem like it's kind of nice to have I just don't think it really puts it on par with Google's sister Alexa it seemed like that was kind of the they they were able to kind of build routine like shortcuts but it seemed like a lot of the shortcuts were just Siri offering you suggestions or you it seemed clunky it didn't seem quite as and within the case of Apple watch you don't even they're kind of they're not cutting out Siri but they're cutting out your acknowledgment of her if you raise your watch who are you really talking to oh good existential question getting deep here guys you should take breaks more often here's a question for Roger from Kaye do you think that Apple is focusing on stabilizing iOS I hope so the the Craig's comment about you know iOS 12 being more about performance in the fact that it was less about big features and more about performance I think that's sort of code word for fixing all the crazy bugs that have shown up on iOS 11 I have an iPhone 10 as well as as well as an iPhone 7 both are on the latest version both are super buggy apps to pop up or iconic yeah or icons that just sort of like gray out some reason so it's it's been a buggy experience so I'm hoping when they say performance they're not just talking about things running faster that their batteries that are battery but also things running smoother and actually not glitching out yes hopefully I liked in the presentation how everyone got really excited that Apple finally figured out how to change the color change the colors on Mojave that's all things like to go dark night mode dark mode dark mode and sorry I'm probably being too critical but it's just like oh yeah it's a nice to have but again it's yeah now there's nothing nothing from yesterday's presentation really impresses that much they're sort of a collection so they're like oh that's cool I guess and they continued to disappoint the audience as they made no mention of any kind of Rio for the iPad air as fun asus fen asus is asking if iOS 12 will become available for the iPad air I would imagine I thought well for that pet well which iPad air the original iPad air doesn't specify but I know we don't really see hardware implementations at WWDC but every time Apple does an event somebody in the chats asking if the iPad air is ever gonna make a comeback I would say that pet error is is done they've kind of moved to this low-cost model for the entry-level iPad and then there's the iPad pros that iPad air which I have I'm a fan of - why's that iPad air 2 it's it's a it's a good model but I think they've kind of moved away from that earlier models that are getting after on new updates hmm there's the like how many thousands of dollars original gold watch oh right the $15,000 Apple watch original Apple watch which will not get the new Apple watch or watch OS 5 yeah so sorry for all you went as who's 17 grand fortune on yeah on a watch it's now let's take another look at this an emoji because it's it's adorable but also kind of creepy Roger what was your experience like developing I'm sorry MIMO gee sorry this is Samsung AR emoji they introduced this earlier this year with the Galaxy S 9 they're probably a little bit annoyed right now that Apple decided to come out with MIMO G stealing its thunder a little bit I don't know the the AR emoji just I don't know my kid doesn't my kid does not look like this at all although he makes that small sometimes which is hilarious but we thought it was a little creepy a little it didn't really work as well it gave me a man bun my AR moji had a man but I don't know how that even works he didn't look at the back of my head and just scan the front of my head and just decided this guy needs a man button i think it's cuz it's odd to your soul and saw your deepest darkest my deepest darkest desire is Taraka man bun oh yeah clearly I know I know so I guess Samsung knows me more than I know myself but it it's sort of a good example of what they look like you know we tried the the facial or the facial recognition on gs-9 for AR emojis it kind of worked okay it wasn't quite as accurate as an emojis which definitely matched the movement of multiple parts of your face to the actual an emoji image so we'll see how many emojis work on but I imagine they're they don't work pretty well I don't know when I saw them on stage with Mike oh that's that's cool I guess it's again it's gonna be one of those features were probably gonna be using it for about a month I'll just get tired how would you compare from what you know about Samsung's product versus what they showed it w see the ability to customize is there a big difference in between the two in terms of customizing the look of the Moto G it's hard to tell because we didn't see that much from WWDC it seemed like there were a decent amount of custom options samsung also offers the ability to customize things but it's mostly clothes and I think you know one of things we knocked it on was it couldn't do like curly hair so there were different aspects of features that hopefully Apple will remedy but Samsung was kind of missing the first time around we have a similar question coming in as we're getting towards the end of the show here from Bill harried do the changes to Siri bring in anywhere near Google assistant and Alexa we kind of edging down this path time and time again kind of maybe man I think it's still it's still well behind yeah and that's that's a shame cuz you know the home pods out there I mean it really relies on Siri - how are your smart home it just it just isn't quite as responsive as here's a good one from Josh boy - what's up Josh good to see you again since apple carplay is getting Google Maps support does that mean you can set Google Maps as the default on the iPhone that's a good question I hope so I don't know it's kind of annoying I I tend to use like a universe of Google apps on my phone which keeps me from switching to Apple Maps so like my Gmail will link to my Google Maps I would love it if Google Maps was your default because Apple maps I so and it is a hassle and what is it usually in like a text message if you're in yeah if you're definitely in one of those iOS core apps it'll just default you kicks over to Apple map you like no no I've gotta escape back to homes but that means that Apple would have to open up its garden last time my recall right where there's a walled garden and an apple and like a snake and it didn't go too well for everybody come on come on I'm not trying to get proselytizing just funny residence I thought it was clever yeah yes Brian is the best six lowest points out the iOS 12 may have been disappointing for some but at least it's coming to the iPhone 5s can't say the same for Android when Android P hits yeah no I mean I give Apple props for extending it to the 5s and that is one generation more than last year's version so they're definitely offering more support and hopefully that is an indicator that they're talking about performance and making this run a bit more efficiently works because if we could work in a 5s as well as an iPhone 10 that's pretty impressive agreed I'll give them that much for now one more from bill Harry before we let everyone go for the day does Microsoft now own the rights to projects on github I'm not sure that's a good question Microsoft just bought github I don't think they own the rights to the projects themselves right and we didn't think Facebook owned her photos either yeah yeah yeah I think it's as similar they own the hub for it but I don't think they actually owned a specific projects although don't sure but I think that's that's kind of how it would work yeah kind of makes sense doesn't make sense all right we are just about out of time for the day but it's so good to be back thank you guys Roger Joan it's nice to be back in the captain's chair here I needed it I missed it and yeah let's finally get back up on this horse all right if you liked anything you saw her here check us out on CNET our podcast is available on iTunes TuneIn stitcher SoundCloud feedburner Google Play and the Amazon Alexa echo sorry Amazon echo I almost got it all sorry I will do better tomorrow will do will do there tomorrow promise it'll take some time alright take care everybody see you tomorrow