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you guys are experts in the field of audio and fidelity I want to ask you guys some questions about the way we listen to music these days and you guys will hopefully be able to help out some of our viewing audience so how do you guys people who take audio to such a level that most people don't who care about that that phonic sort of feel the phonic feel the phonic feel I just need your podcast ah so simply put how do you guys listen to music like what what is your sort of ritual with that I think we both differ I'm most thing almost completely digital right with a bit of vinyl going in there you consider him like a savage yeah he's a savage Emerson I am from a colonial Country sure you know so we worship backwards a little bit yeah so when you say digital-only explain that most of the stuff it I will probably buy a couple of second-hand CDs but most of the stuff I buy is flac file straight from the net right and flac files / buell don't know that's flac that is the the best encoding or raw it's the raw sort right so it's compressed like a zip file so everything that goes in there comes out again that's where something like an mp3 you pull you pull bits out willy-nilly almost just to get the size down right people don't realize how much audio information is being deleted when you listen to an mp3 Steve's read me the riot act most most streaming is mp3 rightmost streaming is mp3 as well so okay so we have your the digital guy for this conversation and Steve well I don't be lookin guess what side of the fence uniform on I'm in the pure and perfect side but no seriously when you ask that question for me it's like where do I listen Vern listening at home is very different and better in almost every way than listening somewhere else so you're saying you're saying quiet everything people don't take the time to just sit down from the right whatever it is the be take that side of the iphone in your stereo their gramophone whatever you want to call it right there not at one with their music music is they blur do another thing multitasking whatever so you don't think there's enough of just like sitting down and and and appreciating what you're listening to I'm not saying that's the only way right I'm just saying if you love a band sometimes just listen to a tune close your eyes and don't do anything else closing of the eyes I've actually flaps you for multitask yeah I've done that I've closed my eyes and I fell asleep so what band was it uh it was like it was more like a jazzy is an amorous man no one else me they they would put me to bed maybe when I was like a child when talking about recently okay i can't speak for their current style well anyway so well yeah some people doesn't make any difference do some ppl they'll hear things they'll feel differently about the song sure how you feel about music is really the whole whole bowl and you just want people to get something from you so so far connected to the music i mean the artists may have work weeks months or possibly years right to craft a knell of them and if you just have it on as you're doing other stuff you're missing a lot of the one is a respectful say it yeah it's just these kids these kids what do they know well they know a lot about streaming music because that's basically how the planet consumes music these days yeah it makes me sad so what what can people do I know you're not you're in a bit of the minority there but what can people do to get the best sound quality out of streaming services I mean a lot of people use Spotify as far as the best you can click the extreme quality button right that's good is a higher bitrate right then what you get from the free version but is there anything people can actually do to improve the quality can get a good pair of headphones yes I was gonna I was going to let everybody in on a secret what's that whether it's a lossy mp3s or flac files the way to make things sound better is to have better headphones or speakers okay that's way more important so you think whatever think that's the number one tool that our speakers better headphones and something that victor is the latest generation of phones your samsung's or your your iphones actually have a pretty good headphone abdomen not really audiophile quality but they'll drive a good set of header you can spend 600 bucks on a pair of headphones and they'll sync sound great food one of those feels right yeah because I have a decent set of earbuds that I use on my Nexus 6p listening to FLAC files and I I'm super happy without evasion if you listen to an mp3 file it's not gonna burn holes in your gonna die because you know you won't die you might die a little inside but you're not gonna actually drop your phone in your the follicles right the nerve endings they'll die they'll die Cisco they'll be like oh I'm not almond impressed yeah um what about where you listen we talked about this briefly a few minute ago but like where you listen to music has a great deal of an impact of like the actual content that you're consuming right like for me I know if I want to check out the newest you know album from one of my favorite bands I'm probably not gonna listen to it while I'm walking through the street just because like you said like I do maybe you want to have a little bit of a quieter thing I'm not gonna sit in the corner of the room with close my eyes and do it but I'm never gonna like like in a lotus position exactly just like meditate I'm not gonna do that necessarily but I'm gonna find the time to do it where I'm not multitask I think better of you know oh my stock has risen a little bit all right fair enough but I think for me like on the subway is basically the only time I can funnily enough get it some alone time sure having a good set of headphones and a decent music player even even if you trade up from a normal phone I've had some pretty you know fun experiences on on a train listening to musics right if you get some decent sort of noise blocking ones and you know then you'll be okay yeah well yeah aside from your freaky deaky like listening ritual where else can people listen and get like an okay experience you mean other than home other than home in possibly gonna be turn a park bench right pose your eyes just got birds tweeting around you huh no life is just a big like fantasy for you big fantasy where you already thought what do you sound like you're closing your eyes in public places you don't alway York City close my eyes fair enough I can't doesn't make a big difference Oh eyes open that's true that's a whole other story that will get to the next time on the show don't forget we're taking your questions and comments anything audio related you got two of the most prolific audio reviewers in the biz right here so knowledgeable too knowledgeable too i think that was implied with largest scientific meant a lot it did not quality nobody hears stuff the way these guys hear stuff so make sure you get those in right now guys what would you say are your favorite speakers and or headphones wait because because if you want to get headphones yeah you do headphones Steve you're the head fun guy what's a good headphone for someone with like a hundred dollar but I am I'm glad you're sitting down cuz i'm going to say something that you're not gonna respect you might think this is april first or something oh my god you're gonna throw this is curveball Guttenberg a what am I yeah hold on just a later and look at your chicken scratch not move it I just falls off the tongue so it's the bose soundtrue ultra in-ear headphones they're not sound buds that rest on your router's they actually get jammed into airs right but the 129 bucks you're super super comfortable and it's the first bows in your head phone or your bud that I like now I don't like it I love it Wow game for that kind of money it's hard to beat traditionally you despise everything by you know impartial journalist of course I treat everybody fairly right I used to you just they just haven't had a great track record with you yeah everything sucks everything's okay now we found it alright this is you know what they say a stopped clock is Right twice a day so every now and then they can squeeze out something good you never go back to make your crappy ones alright alright so tell us how you really feel um yeah this is coming in from YouTube commenters as well like what's what about speakers what's a favorite speaker of yours well speakers is a weird one because you can get passive speakers for about a hundred and thirty dollars a pair of passively I'm up to an amplifier receiver was right bs22 yes spb as 22lr right so a lot the II i guess the future of those selected 720 the future of those speakers is kind of weird because pioneers sold most of its musical assets to onkyo who now continuing the brand and I guess the Americas the only market that carries Andrew Jones all a lot of Andruw Jones products okay so you know some of these speakers go on sale all the time some of the speakers disappeared like they had a sound base which is completely gone now so if you want to get Android giant speakers now that he's moved on as well to elac and produce it some really great stuff so if you want to get Andruw Jones pioneer stuff I'd say don't graduate I mean seriously it's there's nothing comparable for 129 dollars I love seeing audio deeds get excited about oh yes I'm excited to get excited about something that real people can bots yeah it's practical and his neck at all i'd like to get if i can't afford it it's a good 20 min dollars where ya Mac McGill I mean there are other cheaper speakers say from dayton audio but i don't think that had the same hole not even close we talked about onkyo onkyo i remember went back in the day I used to check out some onkyo systems and whatnot those they make like the whole what his companies like onkyo it's like vintages of wine they're good years they're nuts okay so you like my figures so the 2012 was a nice yes there's too much rain in 23rd yeah you could say well before you could hear it you sound it was wetter yeah I all I can say about onkyo is that my one of my favorite experiences and one of the things that clued me into the hifi hobby was listening to dark side of the moon on an onkyo turn I know you're talking 70s onkyo turntable electronics beautiful it's good analog yeah I don't know I feel it say so that didn't happen on a plaque file no it did you get you can still experience that lately you know you can still get good stuff out of flack like yeah I listen to black I feel like I'm getting something you got you are but you're the thing is you literally do not know what you're missing with mp3's right it's like if you only have good rose and orange juice and you never had an actual fresh-squeezed orange your type person I just spine tastes great yeah because you don't know when an actual orange tastes like okay how about this what is the what is the lowest i don't care it's not it's a little unfair all right exaggerated it's like not not the ebon Collins I never called you a snob Steve but you're a bit of a snob no I it's because I care it's because you care and you listen see look I'm cover I could just say to my house and Sarah I don't care about you guys oh yeah I got what I need so screen is because I'm trying to help people spreading the love I am through Sam way I'm spreading everything oh ok height is possible fair enough oh how do I pivot out of that i'm not sure what about soundbars you go back to my shirt soundbars soundbars get a lot of they catch a lot of heat because some people say they're crap some people swear by them would it what's a crazy to swear at them yeah now I think there's a number every now and then that I I admire like they've come a really long way you're happy I am especially for movies I'm generally less happy with their sound for music okay for movies is there one you recommend for under a hundred dollars not know okay that's good to know you want a sound bar you got to spend a little more money to spend at least two hundred bucks okay what a name a brand real quick that you just got some really good stuff at the moment pioneer if you can still get pioneer stuff is good yamaha stuff is good that's pretty much I'm learning a lot I actually have to take some notes because people are asking me about sound bars I believe we have questions from the live audience let's check in with Mike hi guys so we have a few comments from our about sound from people Melissa says I do think a bit is Las via phones for sure mostly her own hearing Jackson says she just wishes Apple music and the music app were separated pizzas that he misses the attention given to album packaging some people are still trying he lists to ol Beyonce etc as examples and Paul is the question he says he has so no speakers he's deezer flac high-end service he used wondering if you guys think more music services are coming on the horizon probably not I mean the big one or the big rumor this week was that Apple is supposedly in talks to buy a title so i think that that what's going to happen is you're going to see consolidation of your music services because there's a lot particularly in Europe there's people like deezer and wimp became time title and it was its own brand for a while so it's going to get smaller rather than bigger I can see people being really boutique II and collating and and being like that but they're not gonna make much money idle began you missed your big opportunity what's up just went right past it what the whole room thing Oh rune I look I love ruin works room room is a very TWiki hifi system which integrates meteor on your hard drive with title that makes them into one library oh ah ah great service amazing interface plus five hundred dollars but oh so this is this that's for the lifetime okay I mean yani Bugsy that's actually not every years all right i love the service yeah i'm still trying to convince steve of it okay I like bose headphones and right get anything's possible yeah oh do you guys ever think some like a spotify would switch would turn the flack switch on sure yeah yeah cuz that's I feel like I i would pay more money he runs oh I don't make more I'd pay five dollars usually double I pay five right now with Spotify 10 bucks okay look I pay with your page one I paid 15 I don't think I'd pay 20 I pay twenty fifth title and I love it ya got rid of Spotify this is a regular the stigma associated with title is is understandable for sure stench what's that stench yeah the stench emanating right but at the same time like the service is great the service is really good it's just because the oil rig little molecules around right yeah um yeah I feel like I would definitely pay 15 a month for Spotify titles 20 again yeah see that's like me that's kind of like the threshold for me right um I just think like I think streaming flak is like such a rad idea right i was super psyched when title came along say they were doing that but then all that other stuff happened there I on the left but on your spot price you put stuff on your phone do you download it to your phone I don't why should I I do I mean I've never really found myself in a situation where I mean I also do have the flack stuff that I bought loaded onto my run so that's kind of work I i balance it there you go buy and download itunes not often but I do yeah I kind of guilt out of guilt and yeah I you know good self-pity good that kind of thing I prefer the kilt alright heard enough anything gets you to support living bands right make them say hey guys you know it's okay make more records before somebody well yeah well actually buy it's true and you know to that point someone in the chatroom brought up the idea of like the lost art of you know packaging and and that kind of experienced of opening the record opening the Sienna you know I struggle with that because I used to love that growing up by buying the new you know no effect CD like flip them through the thing fine whatever like seeing oh what are they saying in that song what is this Oh what are these awful photos they decided to include in the booklet that's interesting oh it's a weird stamp they have on the CD that's weird yeah I missed that but just like a book cover I've kind of just learned to let it go you might come if you love it set it free that's what I say but something is lost it is lost I think you know what I think's lost I think a band or a group or whoever an artist has a tougher time communicating their personality right I think like that's kind of lost in the whole thing music videos I guess are still a thing on YouTube they're nowhere near as prevalent as they were in the 80s and 90s I feel like that communication is kind of lost oh oh well uh thank you so much for being here Steve you have to say goodbye to you we're gonna take a break when we come back someone different is going to be sitting where you were at all right we're gonna fill my shoes definitely not because you have such huge feet 13 why where can people follow you on twitter audio philly ack man at audio feely ack man reach out to Steve on Twitter if you want any more audio questioning