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good afternoon for the first in a long time it's time for another episode of the 359 episode 116 with Roger Cheng and Joan souls Minh good afternoon good afternoon Wow I think it's 117 by the way huh is it a 117 00 episode yeah I don't know that's your job you gotta try fess up well I think it's 17 teen mom I don't shortchange us but one episode but what Ben would prefer it this is a way Ben wanted it um thank you all for joining us we've got a lot to talk about Google just finished up it's it's big hardware event lots of products phones chromecast ohm speaker we are still talking sex very exciting kind of I don't knows what is a very excite it's kind of a sleepy it's kind of a sleepy event I felt like they had a lot of products they have a lot to be excited about but I felt like it guy kind of bogged down with a lot of right now only Google would kick off its presentation with like a three-point example of how its deep learning has evolved hahaha two or three days way this is the hard work okay like where the actual products but where's the aluminium like like the Shaffer daddy where are those give me the shiny stuff like it like a look at not not this kind of esoteric deep thinking AI that's gonna take over our world whatever don't tell me how to get creeped out by you Skynet show me pretty sure exactly alright so as always if you have any questions leave in the comment section Brian will pick out the best and will we will try to answer them all and so let's get started with the podcast so right now we're gonna record the podcast will be back in three minutes and 59 seconds from 32 welcome to the 259 where we talk about the top tech news of the day oh crap we want to throw in a writer Jane and I'm Joanie salzman so Google is ready to turn over a new leaf the company has introduced the pixel and pixel x el sol to high-end superphones designed specifically to combat the iphone 7 and Galaxy s7 and is a break from the Nexus line of phones the more interesting thing though is that the fact they spend so much time not only time of the but talking about the Google assistant talk about the the AI that would power this phone I mean was it the smart move to kind of like go the hardware event in the lead with talking about algorithms well Google is definitely a hardware software marriage company they have their hardware so that you use their software so it does make sense that they focus a lot on all the things you can do with their phones because that's what they exist to do right now is this a phone that would be interesting to you I noticed when they had a big like pop up bubble of all the things you could ask the assistant in the phone yeah some of them are things I can't even imagine myself ever asking like help me pack for a trip to New Orleans can you ever ask huh think of asking your phone no but that now has me interested in good New York ones do you think are you going to be tempted none really I mean it's it seems like a decent phone a couple things only holding it back is it's an exclusive for verizon I mean get it unlocked through google but if you want to get through carrier you hit by two verizon and it's actually there's this probably bloatware they're gonna be like the usual verizon stuff I don't know it's you know I'm an iphone user and a samsung user I don't know if this is enough to kind of get me to change my ways I'm curious what you think of the much-touted camera do you think it's really differentiator yes sir oh stephen Shankland had the exclusive deep dive on that camera the software that they use to kind of stabilize images make the the camera shutter work faster image processing better it's definitely impressive the they touted EXO scores it's it's I guess rated now is the best camera ever but not on a phone on the phone on the phone sorry but they didn't that the results haven't come in yet for the iphone 7 plus so we're not sure yet if it's the very very best it's the best rated right now for now they did they omitted that fact right they just said it's the best ever but i don't it's interesting enough but i like a lot of people like a camera isn't enough they gave me the switch phones right away there were a couple subtle jabs at the Jack presents yes yeah they still have the headphone jack which makes a lot of people happy no I you know I thought for second they're gonna just make the jump to us bc but fortunately they kept a jack alright so today wasn't all about google reuters reported that yahoo had built-in tools to in its mail client to allow the NSA to sniff all incoming emails that's hundreds of millions of messages which could make it the largest effort to bulk collect web data in history so that's you know for Yahoo that's they just came off the hack they've got this revelation now that mean it seems like just one hit after another right it does and it makes you wonder what verizon's yeah yeah right like I mean they're already kind of reports that Verizon was a little nervous after the hack came out and now now this it's just sort of more bad news in it I don't know how this reflects upon Marissa Mayer's tenure SEO there yeah it's getting rough in her final days that's for sure yeah so I don't know it's uh we'll see if there's any other revelations from yahoo I feel like it the last couple month it's become sort of a dumping ground for for bad news but which do you think is more damaging to company's reputation at something like a hack mr. massive hack or cooperation with uh with the US government monitoring that's a really great question i mean it i think there's a lot of equal weight between the two of them but i would say the cooperation just because you're complicit in giving away that customer information this cup is a couple apples sort of state the grounds take their position and defending our data and so what company ID yahoo does that kind of looks terrible it looks bad yeah alright for more all these stories check us out at cnet Roger Cheng and I'm Joanie salzman thanks for listening the important question yeah which color pixel did you like I think the important west's which color home speaker do you like there's more option I saw well you know I was a little overwhelmed by the sheer combination of colors and materials I wasn't sure where to go with much blue much is over by the way but I can't remember what is it much blue it's really blue really would like much blue better so it's dog it's the Doge meme come to life by those marketing people are on point with this must mean fodder it's interesting to note the really blue sold-out like seconds God was gone the limited it don't bother making it your favorite cuz you can't have it yep I was wondering if Verizon was gonna sell the blue phone since their their big red their big red how could they sell blue phone there's no blue well 1818 t would have been the natural partner yeah it actually cares because ATT always locks up these exclusives so it's interesting the verizons the main partner yeah yeah I don't know it feels so retro to have an exclusive carrier I agree it is very kind of like this weird throwback and it I don't think it's really effective throwback at this point like right you know the arguments always if you get an exclusive deal you get marketing support you get you know Marky position in the stores but I mean as the last couple years have shown like anyone who struck an exclusive deal is really just sort of a like the fire phone was exclusive phone HTC first the facebook phone obviously you don't remember all these phones that only I remember because I matters be our phones at all failed and they're all exclusive so we'll see I mean Google is definitely there selling these through their own site but I get the sense that only the hardcore Android folks are going to want to get that phone through the site most people still buy their phones at carrier stores will Google assistant be available on Nexus phones oh that's good question your phones in the future yes yeah I don't think I don't know if next is gonna that's a really good question they didn't really address that they've kind of the kind of stopped talking about nexus actually like I believe they've already kind of commented saying that they're they're not they don't have any plans to build a future Nexus devices and they didn't mention Nexus at all today so I mean I don't know if it's actually mean go back to it do you think it with a forthcoming firmware update it's possible possible yeah I don't know if there's like special computing power or something in the phone itself that's required to run Google assistant but yeah I don't know yeah ah micro SD card no right nope no um let's see what about the same questions every day but alone well some of us didn't sit at their desk and watch the event the entire time we were paid to do true front-facing speakers that was that mentioned do I think they're just rear spelling bottom splatters because that's what I think I saw we've got a photo gallery on cnet if you want to full like detailed close-up pirates look I said I didn't think I saw did we figure out what those the yesterday on the show they're talking about the little dots were those stereo microphones I think they might be directional Mike's the pick up pick up your sound not not speakers but actually yeah pick oh but would that even work in favor of like noise cancelling I don't know I think it's more intended to make Google assistant more okay pick up your voice a lot easier that's a thought water resistance we kind of went over this again a lot of resistance nope Shh fall behind then uh still scanning still scanning ah we got good comments thanks everybody for jumping in I what you think of the VR though yeah yeah yeah it's not all just about the phone I just wish I know of a phone geek so of course I'm gonna focus on that I'd oh I thought daydream view was really interesting it's cheaper than the galaxy view nice gear VR sorry the Samsung gear VR it looks more comfortable looks more a littler like plugging in the gear has a fabric material ya see ya like that seems like I wouldn't want to share it I'd be less I'm triple share true can't really wipe that down as easily yeah yeah you know what I that's true the main reason i have my gear vr is to share it with other people like so they can check out this computer this is what we are is exactly and then i put it back in the closet i never use it again that's that's the extent of VR for me i'm curious good like they've talked about VR for a little while now do you think that Google getting into VR in a real way like this is actually going to change things are we still kind of a slow trajectory to people you know binding and jumping in a VR um I think that though it's the lowest price point I assume high quality VR yeah if it beats Samsung by the way but the downside is you need to have their phone right to work well right pixel is gonna be the first one compatible with it but they said any any phone that's daydream compatible which I believe yeah I think it's phones that run on probably newer phones that run on Android 7.1 and have a certain come display i think it's an AMOLED display that's I think crisp enough to handle the VR imagery I think that'll make a big difference how much device support how much yes most empowered element you know how many different kinda smart I know I agree cuz right now if you buy gear VR you'd buy samsung phone alcatel has one as a super cheap headset our VR headset but again only works with that phone so to have to have a VR headset that you can use any phone with be definitely helpful yeah this Christmas season or holiday season is gonna provide a lot more sort of transparency you're not transferring but give a give a good picture of where we stand with ya normal people I'm still I'm still skeptical about people actually buying this for just because if it's really at least this year if it's really just pixel I don't really know if people are going to want to buy this thing will Google be like some carriers and allow bootloader unlocking without voiding the warranty I think I've been told that I'm not it's not confirmed but i believe the unlocked version that you can buy from google will have that possibly i'm pretty sure the verizon one does not right i'm just throwing out speculation this yeah well certain the verizon one will not have that yeah how do we feel about the appearance of the phone some of the people are being critical about how it doesn't resemble the previous pixel products like the chrome be and how it just looks like another iphone yeah i mean from the front it looks like an iphone without a physical button but back has that weird glass thing what do you think about that that kind of two-tone look it's like glass and metal I don't think about it really yeah yeah I like that they called the edge of it a wedge they called it a wedge they called they said I've had a wedge or better hand holding oh oh really oh yeah I like that's never I've never heard of a definitely heard the word wedge well I was paying attention Betties not seem that doesn't seem like a word you'd want to use to describe a sexy looking to buy a wedge it's no aluminium know him at all I'm sure this also has aluminium arik air was an air airplane grow aircraft grade aluminum aluminium that's what they always say no that's like the default doesn't matter how cheap the phone is or how expensive component aircraft aircraft grade had a mini uh they demonstrate how fast the fingerprint scanner worked no they didn't begin to see that no but you know what last last year's was pretty snappy I mean and they're all like it doesn't matter what manufacturers I think they all kind of use the same fingerprint tech from a specific company so I mean it's the fast enough last year I'm sure to be fine this year and your daddy wants to know do we have to press the home button to bring up Google assistant oh no you ok Google Google yeah and what I figure that's got to be at least a setting that you can toggle on and off kind of thing right yeah hello imagine just saying okay Google constantly for stuff I mean I say Alexa when I talked to echo hey what's okay that doesn't feel cumbersome but it's also two syllables to four syllables so I don't know is that is that more it's also a little more natural just say someone's name say something I'm right ok Google yeah like saying okay girls bit more stilted to me yeah I don't know I never ok Google with anything same here then again I don't I don't say hey Siri other so I don't either I'm not a big fan of the you know what I'm hey Siri work for me was during the Apple presentation well I think Tim Cook said hey Siri my phone actually responded oh my gosh Timms talking my phone dialing device video ok say it knows tfboys except bosses in the room I need to pay attention I mean to be honest we all kind of perk up a little bit when we know their bosses well that's that's true theory has just become more human that's what that's what yeah that's good that's the goal right visual intelligence is fear of your boss oh this is a total tangible danwon watch westworld I haven't seen it yet no I want to but I hate waiting but in between weeks and so oh yeah I just I just saw it the premiere episode last night it's about AI so it's often but yeah it's about soiree I evolving to the point where it's human-like and then it started to break down sorry I'm a little have a little loop sorry I know I know I don't even know how i found the time to watch it but anyway in between keynotes and on that note yeah we should probably could've wrapped it any other last points or questions not on good comments and questions thanks everybody it's been fun joining you in the aftermath of the google i don't have a kindle now for this the hash tag made by googling yeah there was a lot of stuff made by google although actually was made by HTC so was it really made by them very keynote much phones hahahaha much blue he not over much tired much tired yeah pixel alright if you like anything you saw her here check us out on cnet our podcast is also available on itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud fili and Google Play that's it right yeah alright thanks everyone will see y'all tomorrow