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on today's show we deep dive into the toys Mattel announced at the new york toy fair and talk about charging electronics as you walk with your shoe soles we also have a great guest helping a step through the gigantic science news that happened this week about gravitational waves lastly we answer your questions about whether or not title will sink or swim haha was a hilarious pun do a back at her Hackett and also tell you what we're into its to our daily greetings citizens of the internet welcome to tomorrow daily domestique talk show in the known universe I'm Ashley skema and i'm jeff cannata and today's thursday so we're deep diving as some of the headlines we talked about this week where we got first get out your swim caps let's talk about metallica toy fair because i thought this was a really big deal this is a really big deal well toys are very big deals this is like these are new high-tech toy 21st century tech toys uh firstly look we'll discuss Barbie's dream house because Barbie Barbie's dream house I always really thought I had it a little better than Barbie because i was like i have a working smartphone it's not just a plastic no I have uhhh i have like moving legs i got working knees all those great things imagining this this thought happening like about two weeks ago yeah playing on the barbie this is when I was 30 years old little bit not this is very recent uh so now mattel showed off a smart dream house this is the new hello I think it's like hello Barbie Dreamhouse yeah Barbies gots a smart home as any up and coming young urban professional would yes she's connected to the Internet of Things now the smart home is now connected to Skynet and the world will never be the same does this mean that smart home has arrived is this think that kids are playing in a smart home they expect their appliances to be smart right i think so i think this is a really interesting kind of fair weather kind of flag towards mass adoption of smart home technology and Internet for tiny bar be missed she have a tiny Alexa there you go Alexis her actual for it's an actual person though it's like it hasn't and has it has an Amazon echo built into the doll named alexa cool using theirs okay so here's the controversy surrounding there's actually a controversy I was doing some research and apparently before there was a hello Barbie that you could do talk to you talk to it right and this is in the same I believe in the same line as a hello Barbie Dreamhouse okay a lot of parents are really concerned that privacy issues your your kids are going to get bands you're being listened being doctrine ated into a culture of zero privacy we're being listened to it sit there listening your kid the house is listening for command so it is that a privacy issue is that a thing that parents should be concerned about I don't know I don't have kids like we are the worst judges about I think maybe the fact that the dreamhouse says do you tell us your parents also security number yeah yeah good barbie dreamhouse starts asking for your parents personal information or mommy's pin mommy's a maiden name it's like this terrible yeah Regulus things but I think this is a really interesting concept because yes that that is a thing that I think people should especially with the Apple news this week of them saying no to the FBI and protecting their users privacy that's what they say they're doing there this is the fight of the 21st century to me it's is private digital privacy this is a big deal yeah and it's made its way all the way into toys that's it's not insignificant no I I'm not particularly alarmed about the toys but I think you're right that it is representative of a larger discussion that is how much stuff in our house do you want listening to you and who's listening and do we have any kind of control over what's being recorded I have an Alexa I have an xbox one I'm not particularly worried about that stuff but I can understand the idea behind it yeah the idea and the concern behind it does can make sense there are some reasonable argument to be made in that whole thing okay so move let's briefly touch on the thing maker which used to be I really love researching this because this used to actually be a toy in the 60s that I I was not in fact aware of because I was not a child of the 60s I was non-existent um this was a it almost was like remember the creepy crawly ovens do I your own creepy crawlies that was in the 90s I didn't have any ovens when I was for some goop in there and then you would you would put them in a little like you don't have easy bake oven thing and then we pull them out you got these like sort of gel bugs poison you're alone as always a little bugs they look like gummy worms but they were actual like there was yeah you don't want to eat them have been really bad but thing okay so thing maker now is a 3d printer for kids this is I think this is a representative of the idea that three printers are going to be so inexpensive that we're all going to have them and that's awesome yeah it is awesome hey this is what it can be 300 bucks yeah so 300 otters and you'll be able to 3d print things I think you're gonna be able to 3d print food this is not food though this is not food no this is just plastic toys and they actually worked with Autodesk which no is it very complicated software to create a simplified version for kids that's also have an app on iOS and Android will they'll drag and drop and say okay well this is what I want my toy to look like and then BOOM thing maker prints it out I mean there's there's an argument to be made that they are literally creating things that will put themselves out of business you know if you can just create your own toys why do you need Mattel to create them well at some point I think you would you know in the future let's I mean let's think about the possibilities in the future you go on to your Mattel app yeah you find a Barbie that you really like you customize it exactly the way you want in tone eyes hair whatever and you press a button and your 2050 thing maker and in 30-40 years from now much sooner print out a full bar be that is customed what you want or a toy that is exactly what you want and you pay Mattel for those design for the design I am I am a hundred percent in agreement that this is where the future is headed I I'm convinced that in the future the economy will be an economy of ideas that all you're paying for is the design there'll be people that can design chairs that can people that can design toys of people I can design clothes and I will be able to have all the manufacturing done in my own home because I push it with you know but by the puzzle filaments and different types of you know metal and plastics and you know you have a thing that you did puts the hair in for it what do you buy the idea of the thing you might resign in the idea the blueprint of the idea and then you print it out right there I'm convinced that's the way that's the way the economy is going to be soon we think sooner than you think I said I think it'll take a long time for people to jump on that bandwagon but I do think there will be people sort of like the ones who are like oh my car runs on ethanol or foreign oil or trash or whatever it's like that there'll be people like that well we just have to get to the point where 3d printers get to the point where we they indistinguishable for something you'd buy that in the store very not there yet quite area it's how the quality is not there yet um okay so next story let's talk about is them I really love this the shoe sole that can create like generate store like harvest and store energy so yeah kinetic energy right it's kind of so it's um it actually uses what's called a bubbler method and there's a lot of science behind this method but it's non mechanical parts so it's actually taking the energy that you the water is going for that you're creating like as you walk and harvesting it and then storing it into it has a little tiny generator yeah there you go energy generator inside a shoe sole and then and then it's got a little battery it puts all the energy into that here's here's how this is cool first of all everybody hates charging their phone-charging their devices of all kinds everybody thinks it's a pain try to find an outlet try to my phone is low battery at the worst time be it advocates for getting up and doing and going and walking and being active and not sitting around all day trail so you get benefits from actually moving through your life so you combine that with sort of a fitness tracker that you said you need 2,000 steps today but also because you need to charge your phone twenty percent battery that's a pretty grace like tell me on my Fitbit how many steps I need to charge my battery to thank you percent or whatever I need to I need to charge my phone and make a call I'm gonna run down to the down the block real quick take a quick take awake job the Hyrule I really like they talk about a little bit more a University of wisconsin-madison talks a little bit the team that worked on this are I believe they are electrical engineers their engineers who worked on this and they said you know the applications for military would be really amazing because you could have some soldier charging a lot of different devices that they need while they're out in the field not having to find a place to actually plug them in up down and give me twenty percent battery life because I need some battery for my phone and and then the other part that I thought was the most interesting the potential of installing a Wi-Fi hotspot in your shoe and so what would happen is the energy that you create would power this hotspot which means your phone would never be disconnecting and reconnecting to Wi-Fi and cell phone towers there hypothetically extending the life of your battery because that's one of the things that kills your battery the most it's constant connection to those towers uh up to end up to ten times your smartphone's current battery life like you'd be able to just extend it out because you'd have Wi-Fi on you all the time you'd always be connected to one network you never have to switch a lot of towers you know it was a very own issues hypothetical kind of scenario that i thought was really weird and cool we got a lot of feedback on this story actually we'll wrote in and said charger shoes plus backpack battery / dock for drone plus drone plus hololens equals HUD vision with map I like that's a hole he's got a whole set up is that whole set up ready to go the 12-step program that ends in you being completely digitally and completely digitally to that it Ricky wrote in and said kinetic charging please smiley face um and there is actually a kinetic charging device that came out was a Kickstarter while ago called ampe move I don't know if you guys have seen this this is it right here it's a little device though that you actually wear on your body and then as you run and stuff it's it's an external battery pack that charges based on motion so their watches for decades that do this yeah because watches need so little you know just regular analog watches need so little emotion it's like it stores that and then uses it to watch it never needs a battery those like citizen eco-drive of course of course and then Dustin Rodin said forget the fancy back to the future two shoes of Power laces this is 2016 we need shoes to power our phones that's right and our laces and our Power laces because we need Power laces um okay so that is it for our headlines yeah we do have a very interesting asked ed we will we will keep it keep it short kept it real what but I thought this was a really good question and actually I'd like to expand at hey TD to include any questions you guys might have we might make it a little segment like everyone segments answer your questions on the show so use that hashtag hey TD and then ask us something like like blowing Ronnie wrote in to us and said do you think title will be a success even Kanye can't convince me to convert from Spotify it's it's a tough space right now the streaming music space it it feels very crowded and it's only getting more crowded so it's hard to get people people are creatures of habit but I think ultimately doesn't everything come down to price features and ease of use I think so but also I think that there is there is an intangible that is very difficult for companies like title to grasp these are all artists that have kind of come together and created this streaming service and that's all well and good and I appreciate their kind of efforts there but if people aren't using your service in the first place you're not making it compelling enough to use in the first place what's the value at what's the thing you're doing that no one else can get and creativity it's the exclusivity so Kanye is like life of Pablo only going to be on title I'm never never never putting it on Apple laughs laughs so he went crazy this weekend which is decided to one day one of the reasons they say that his album is one of the most bootleg over half a million pirated the life of Pablo in less than a week so that's not necessarily a good thing guys like exclusivity not necessarily great maybe a week of exclusivity two weeks you say for the first month and then it'll come out on other streaming platforms yeah that's a toilet it's a tough sell to try to force people into it by saying the only place you can get it is here yeah I think the way that people want to accept those things is you go well you can get it anywhere but here is lower price or its value add what value what's the thing we're offering that no one else is doing here's here's my advice to you title if you're watching which JZ huge fan of the show I know you are um here's my suggestion you Apple music is a mess I left our do and I had to go to apple music I i am trying out Spotify right now and I'm not really sure how I feel about it yeah I'm trying out Apple music because it's native to the iphone experience and it's terrible it's so counterintuitive it's so unlike a lot of software Apple like Apple oh it's so frustrating because Apple sometimes ships this like really half-baked software like iTunes you mean like iTunes on the piece of garbage like Apple maps like Siri when they launched all these products that they have not traditionally done a great job of good software at launch and the thing is is Apple music is so counterintuitive and so unlike apples design ethos which is it just works it just it doesn't just work you have to really look for certain things there it's not easy to use it's very confusing you have to go into the itunes store to buy stuff you have to leave Apple music it's very weird and so my suggestion is title if you want to survive you have to make a great you have to make a product that's better than everybody else you can't make it just as good right it can't be just as good it has to be heads and shoulders better than everyone else and you can't just have two or three artists releasing exclusive albums you've got to get so many artists on board to say I'm only going to release it on title because this is the place where my artistry is appreciated and the artists will be paid so the short answer your question is no we don't think it's yeah I don't think it's going to survive so on that note we're going to take a quick break we want you to watch this amazing video I guess it took up more than a year or two design and get done it's called star cart I don't know if you didn't yeah combo of star wars and programs amazing stuff and then when we come back we will have Josh Smith the director of a gravitational wave physics and astronomy Center at cal state university fullerton to talk about gravitational waves in the discovery that science has made last week so stick around its tomorrow daily some huge science news this week some of Einstein's oldest unproven theories have been proven true but it's pretty dense stuff so we got an awesome guest to come help us unpack this news today we do from cal state university fullerton we have the director of gravitational wave physics and astronomy center joshua smith hello thank you can we call you can we tell you Joshy prefer Josh please call me Josh awesome Josh this is as Jeff said very dense stuff but again proving some theories Einstein had about ripples in space-time that are over a hundred years old this is the theory of relativity right the theory we know of general relativity and that's right so a hundred years ago a hundred years ago Einstein told us that gravity works differently than Newton said so Newton said that you would have a force between two objects based on their masses and Einstein said gravity works by curving space and time right but with a curved space-time he said that if you had masses that accelerated kind of moved around like this they should also make ripples in space and time that would carry the information out they showed out yeah we've never seen them before that's right he said theoretically it should happen we've never seen them before and the reason we'd never seen them before is because they're so small right absolutely so in Einstein's original paper he said if you put in the equation and you calculate what the amplitude is it's practically vanishing for any numbers that you put in but at the time 100 years ago Einstein didn't think about two black holes going around each other in space he was he was you know hundred years ago that wasn't a known system so basically the idea is that there's stuff that has mass in the universe that mass causes ripples in in gravity yep and because black holes have so much mass we're actually able to measure their waves their gravitational a very tiny tiny movement yeah so actually the black holes have so much mass and they're going around each other so fast so they're going around each other so fast it's a fraction of the speed of light the black holes that we saw were a billion light years away so if you were there the waves would be really really strong surf um yeah they would get on a surfboard which answers one of our viewer questions they said can you in fact surf on gray if you were there a billion years ago I think being a billion years ago being close enough to surf on the on the gravitational waves from the black holes would be very bad for your health oh okay you could do it on it but you could do it and then die kind of like pixel surfing here we go yeah sure so what a gravitational wave is actually space-time changing so you're you're actually things are actually moving closer to you or farther away from you yes that's amazing the space and time between objects changes as the gravitation wave passes and that's how we measure it so we build a giant it's called interferometer the laser interferometer gravitational-wave Observatory that looks at the difference between distances and mirrors with laser beams so it makes a very accurate measurement of that distance and the distance changes as a wave passes by but the change is so tiny on earth that it took a hundred years to develop the technology to be able to make that attacked that I'm talking like the size of what I like oh it's like the diameter of a hydrogen atom right about a thousandth of the diameter of a proton more like it so Wow so we're talking about 10 to the minus 19 meters which seems like an impossible number it does but we've played we've we've worked on lots of areas of technology to make that possible and it is possible and that's where how do we measure that small of a distance it a billion light years away so using the lasers and the mirrors we make that accurate measurement and there are a lot of things you have to overcome one of them is just the mirrors themselves have atoms in them that jiggle around atoms and molecules yeah it turns out if you try to make a measurement with a very small amount of laser light in a very small area the atoms will jiggle too much so you have to make a measurement with a big laser spot to average over the statistical jiggling of them so they averaged 20 so you can measure the true see I have atoms that jiggle too I can relate yeah we all we all do um so one of the things that I thought was really interesting was uh one of the videos online they sort of talked about how they actually attempted to measure for this back in the 60s and 70s and did not have the technology at and also built small like you were saying it didn't quite work so right LIGO now is two different locations and the actual length of each because it's a perpendicular series of tunnels right exactly and so the this perpendicular series of tunnels are five kilometers long four kilometers two and a half miles two and a half miles long so we're looking at a two and a half mile long tube for each of these lasers two lasers / Lego a / observatory and that's for like redundancy redken shrimp yeah well so the the two observatories is for redundancy to check each other because you wouldn't want a local disturbance to be measured at one and then not have a way to tell that it was local right so by having two widely separated detectors and by the way we want to build more we want to build one in India there's one coming online in Italy and there's one in Germany oh wow with multiple detections on widely separated fronts you can tell that it wasn't a local disturbance right that it wasn't an anomaly or something that was like you can confirm that this actually is a definable measurement that happened in two different places and it's okay go ahead and another thing we can do is we can match what we measure to the predictions using Einstein's equations so you can use Einstein's equations to solve what you think the system should look like into this case two black holes that are 30 times the mass of the Sun going around each other and that gives a waveform prediction for what you should expect and you can match that against what you really see to gain confidence that what you saw came in fact from that type of cyst I see okay so what does this mean this means I was right and this is sort of the last bit of his theory that hadn't been observationally proven proven right so there are it is challenging to test at different aspects of Einstein's theory and I'm not sure that you can say that this is the last bit that's been proven because what we'll do is we'll continue to test the theory with more and more accuracy and look for any small deviations that we see between his theory of gravity and what we actually observe for scientists it's exciting if you see deviations because that means something is wrong and maybe we can we can get a deeper understanding by figuring that out everybody wants a sign to be wrong no know what that guys always right 100 year he was right I mean that's crazy yeah it's very it's so unbelievable it's an amazing thing does this have practical application going forward for scientists so one thing one thing that I think is pretty interesting is that this opens up a new way to observe the universe everything that we've seen about the universe so far the majority of it has been through light and light has different different forms so you can have radio and x-rays and visible light and gamma rays this is an entirely different spectrum than that this is measuring gravity from gravity not from electrons jiggling around but from mass is moving so this opens up a totally new way to look at the universe and we expect to see not only black holes but things like neutron stars or exploding stars or possibly some remnants of the Big Bang so that that's one thing that it gives us but another is technology so in order to solve a lot of the problems like quantum mechanics and things like that that we needed to overcome we had to build technology that's going to push forward in areas of technology that aren't related to gravitational waves back and and that's a you know that's a give and take because we also use the technology that's developed in other areas to refine our instruments right ok so you compensate for my jiggling atoms yes well that's really the goal for Jeff jiggling atoms um so one of the we have a couple of questions from viewers and also I just really quickly want to thank John Strickland from forward-thinking yeah he sent us a really nice primer on gravitational waves he's working on a two-part episode about gravitational waves i highly recommend you check that out when it's released and thank you again John for for helping us learn a little bit more before we got to talk to Josh okay so Stefan asked what unit of measurement or medium do we measure gravitational waves with so gravitational waves have an amplitude like the amplitude of the wave okay something that's called strain and strain is the amount of stretch that you get for a given length so the reason that the arms of Lago are so long is because that that means the longer you make the arm the longer the motion happens because of the strain it's a it's a fractional change so if you make the arms really long you get a bigger change okay so the amplitude of gravitational waves is in strain and then I guess you can say we measure it in in the dimensions of meters and our instrument another to the negative 11 10 to the minus 19 or 19 you could also say that we measure it as light because the instrument is set up so that it's kind of a trap for gravitational waves they come in and if they move the arms back and forth it causes a little bit of light to come out of what we call the dark port that's normally dark and that little bit of light encodes the gravitation wave signal as photons and that's what we measure an admiral ackbar of gravitational waves to yell it's a trap in gravitational waves as they come in I like it here Arnold also asked us one of our viewers is it possible to harness the waves for energy FTL propulsion or time travel esque application so let's talk a little bit with that being said asked let's talk a little bit about the fact that I like as I understand it and correct me if I'm wrong this is sort of like getting a new sense so we let's say like we have these five senses and all of a sudden we get a new sense and we say okay I don't really necessarily know exactly what this is going to be used for but I know that my that I'll never be the same again is that sort of kind of the you put that so beautifully I don't know how to improve on it okay well okay good okay I'm glad so I so time trouble can we do it that's the question so that being said like there was no specific application that you were looking for just specifically to confirm gravitational waves and from here go forward to find potential uses for the knowledge of gravitational time yeah so I think just really want for the time I mean can you blame me no I can't I think the initial application is just that we can see the universe in this new way and we can do astronomy there is the technological benefits for building something like this but I think having opened up a new sense for Humanity is a is a nice application on its own so I don't know about time travel Jeff not sure if we're going to not sure if we're gonna get you there from this okay but i do think as Kip Thorne said this allows us to understand Einstein's theory a little bit better and Einstein's theory is probably a good place for to start in your in your garage as you build your your time well the reason that I know that this isn't gonna be the thing that gets us there is because future me didn't just show up to give me a high five or did he maybe you our future you and you're just putting up a front I gotta say if so I've aged well you have um well okay so last I think I think let me see if I have any other I've we had so we had a lot of questions come in I well it's a very dense topic I understand is you know I was all excited as a fan of science you know I read all the articles that come out you see the big headline we did it we discovered them and you go okay well but what does that mean and how does that you know how is that accomplished so John asked specifically how is this different from the data we first thought the bicep2 telescope uncovered back in 2014 and could gravitational astronomy tell us more about the origins of the universe which you did mention you did potentially maybe yeah I said he's a smart guy that's a great question so the original bicep2 results were looking at we're looking at twisting that was imparted in space-time from the birth of the universe in the Big Bang and so the idea was that there were gravitational waves at the Big Bang and they imparted some twisting on space-time and as that space-time grew it stretched out and we could look for that with our telescopes at the South Pole I'm not involved in that project but that's my understanding our project measured directly gravitational waves coming from a source of two black holes and we expect that we're going to measure other things like exploding stars or neutron stars so I think the the difference is that we're kind of for one thing we're in a different frequency range so we're in a frequency range where things are moving around quite fast and what we hope that we've done is opened up a field of gravitational wave astronomy where other projects will join including ones like something called pulse our timing where they look at spinning pulsars a type of stars and they look at those and they use those as the timing to measure the gravitational waves that pass between them and that's a much lower frequency and so all of those frequencies together bicep2 and related projects and pulsar timing and interferometers in space for example called Lisa and LIGO will span the whole spectrum like we do with with light so we can we can see a lot of really see a lot of different things how do you know where to look how did you guys know where to find the two to two black holes so our instruments act a little bit more like a microphone than they a telescope they they're arranged on the earth and the waves kind of bathed them the earth doesn't block wave so they come through both instruments and from the from the timing and a little bit more information we can tell roughly where they came from about so this came from the southern sky but we didn't have to point at it we could tell by reconstructing the waves as they hit them oh wow so it's a little bit like a microphone so different about gravitational waves right is that they don't impact things they just move through things right well it's a it's a there's a duality there's this wave particle duality as well so so we measure them clearly as a wave but there is an Associated particle we think called the graviton yeah so we don't know so similar to light a super awesome Banda that I'm stramit on rock by the way out of time say my new band um let's lastly talk a little bit about cal state fullerton's role in this you guys did some very interesting things to be able to help everybody visualize exactly what this discovery is yes so I'm really proud of cal state fullerton's role we have undergraduate students who are learning relativity at the same time that they're doing some of this work and we have graduate students and three professors and we yes so our students created visualizations simulations of the two black holes we were among the first actually the first to look at the exact parameters of the black holes that we detected on super computers at Cal State Fullerton ran simulations to see the black hole's merge and then created visualizations along with collaborators in the simulating extreme space x collaboration another yeah just anything that I could be a part of the temple is that I would be into and we had the we had the privilege also to be very closely involved with writing the paper that announced the discovery you were one of the lead editors on is one of the six editors on the paper right right and so that was a that was a great privilege because a thousand people were authors on the paper and there was a lot of input and a lot of the words and the thoughts and the measurements came from people across the collaboration and we tried to work to make a you know a legible compelling cohesive story out of a hell of an email chain it was right exactly you're absolutely right there this is awesome thank you so much I think it's shed some light no in any form the light wants to take ya on this shed light and waves yeah on this very dense a topic I it it's so big and so important important that it's hard for us sometimes i think is as people just kind of you know reading the news to wrap our brains around it's sort of that thing where you really start thinking about the universe and then your head hurts after a while uh i really love that you came down here and talk to us a little bit about it thank you so much uh if if anybody wanted to learn more about the project what would they searched for on google well gravitational waves will get you a lot of the way you can go to like org or a lot of our scientific calc i geo lig o jogo was its name and a lot of our scientific results are posted there and we work hard to make science summaries of all of our scientific papers so that people can access them at the pub you know the public can access them and if people still have questions after that we work really hard to answer any emails that we get about them and we have kind of a whole troop of people that are answering emails right now ah i was awesome awesome yeah Josh thank you so much for being here we got more tomorrow daily coming at us we do we have a we have a delightful video as we go to break of boiling an iphone and cran wax so check this out and we'll be right back equally important to what we just been talking about and I love the smell of fresh brand new crayons let's go ahead and do this is the brightness all the way up yet okay whoa whoa welcome back to the show that was amazing informative so rad all the best things I can't even have enough adjectives to describe how great that was uh are you ready to talk about some crowdfunding let's do it back in her hack it here's a question for you an answer for you sat on your couch while playing say I don't know rise of the Tomb Raider you thought yourself I wish my couch was moving along with the game heck yeah okay so Emerson by that I mean not really yeah hey I mean it yeah maybe okay so let's talk about Emerson so I saw this it's got 26 days to go on Kickstarter they wanted ninety-five thousand dollars they've they've passed that they got immerse it immerse it in version but your assist like you're sitting on a couch so this is the idea it is a oh look at them go it is a plug-and-play a device that you put underneath your couch it will move and vibrate I can have very sudden moves they can have subtle moves it can pitch roll heave there's apparently intelligent vibrations adjustable intensity and they're saying this is the ultimate movie and gaming experience and it's actually gotten some really good it's d-box it's at home d by it is it's like it's just like going to a 4-d theater there's amazing so I kind of love this are you well I I love the idea behind it I know so few people are gonna be happy they gave money to this Eileen my producer I'm usually not the cynical one but my goodness does this look like it's going to be a disappointment to everyone people are gonna get it be like this is super it's gonna be yeah it's gonna vibrate a little bit probably it's gonna be like what you know what's it on your phone and I'll call you when the exciting parts happen supposedly they're saying like this is what they're saying on the actual website they're like software translates move emotions into perfect movements of vibrations get you immersed in the most appropriate manner yeah it's for your body what VR is for your brain that's also quote from their Kickstarter I'd love that to be true I so skeptical so super skeptic I'd love to try it if you're listening and you want us to try it I'll give it a shot we I mean tribe we did try it at CES not specifically cnet tried it out really do you like it if you go over to our if you look up immerse it mi mmer SI t on cnet com you can check out our video a little first line now I have to find out if if if we as a company liked it because I'm very skeptical there are there are many ya sera sera test the serious how much is it okay let's talk about price if you want just vibration if you don't want already have it on your phone to shake around yeah and you don't want to play your iPad or your surface underneath your couch cushion and sit on it um you can get immerse it vibration for about to hire bucks wow that's the vibration Wow okay it does have to does it require support from the the thing you're watching does it have to how does it know when to vibrate you based on what you're watching I think it's saying that like basically it's compatible with the game consoles they said it was compatible with our like all of them right now like all of the you know xbox 360 xbox one like their it's compatible if you want an actual motion an inverse it motion which is the whole kit and caboodle pack I can you around on your couch the the cheapest early bird available currently is 700 know what 700 and no seven hundred and no dollars 700 000 I'm not bad you know yes okay um you know for 700 on't think I go away for 300 I'd be gonna come with the dang couch well that's see that's the thing i have a sectional couch i can't even use this cuz my couch is too big it's like a giant 10-seat sectional so there's no way i could ever actually use this I'd have to buy a separate couch specifically made for this particular application this is bad idea jeans you think so emerson immerse it I'm sorry thumbs down from the old Jeff Meister oh I thumbs down bummer all right uh I say I say don't might say dome go to a 40 movie theater yeah or you know your tricks in watch the movie it's fine do it for scare tactics I don't know it's or somebody with it that would be I don't know if that's worth 7 1st century whoopee cushion okay so now that we've talked about back in Hackett are you ready to talk about what we're into let's do it right into it i'm into Helldivers i just want to get right in it was free this month on PSN right yeah PlayStation Plus had it for free crossplay I believe its playstation 3 playstation 4 and Vita I didn't get this on PC it is so much fun it is a combination of Starship Troopers uh-huh Diablo it's a kind of that combo so it's a town game and you can all play together and there's Friendly Fires you can accidentally kill your friends twin stick shooter right happens a lot yeah twin stick shooter you can you choose your loadout right before you go into each mission you can play you can fight against cyborgs bugs or illuminate and it is so fun you go into these missions and it'll say okay here's your objective you got to go oh yeah that's the other thing the ship that comes to get you the dropship that games to take you out of the mission if you are under it when it lands it will kill you like that'll make your couch shake ya little boy if you play this game with the immerse it you'd be having a great time yeah this is so much fun and it's a blast to meet other people because you can play multiplayer either locally or online so me and my husband have been playing with other like my friend Mike and then you know my brother from a different place agent it's so fun i got to get in on this i just downloaded it so i got to get on up in it yes on Helldivers it's great okay what are you into my into it is a movie and it might at first glance seem like a real political movie but I urge anybody watching this regardless of what your political stance is to give it a shot imageshack it's the new film from Michael Moore so he's a polarizing figure but this one is called where to invade next I think it's actually not a very good title it's a it's a clever idea he's quote-unquote invading countries by himself but I think it conjures sort of a dialogue about the military-industrial complex which is not what the movie is about at all he's just going to different countries some European countries in North African countries and just seeing how they a pro some of the problems that we have here in America and it's fascinating some of the solutions that other countries have come up with some of the ideas they've taken from us and expanded upon the things that he just sort of shows in practice all around the world are really inspiring and really interesting it's not a polemic it's not preachy it's not doesn't feel like a Michael Marmot Michael more money I mean I think a lot of people are turned off by that I really urge anybody watching this if you have this movie playing near you go see it it will open your mind it reminded me of when I was 17 it was the first time I ever went overseas I never traveled that far away from home and it just opens your mind it opens your mind you realize that the whole world isn't like your little part of a little space right and this movie is the filmic equivalent of that and I really if you have ever heard anything I've said on the show and taken my advice and been happy do this I guarantee you'll laugh you'll enjoy even if you think you hate Michael Moore is it on Netflix it is not yet but it's in it's in theaters right now okay so you can go see it in theaters I'm sure it'll be on netflix at some point where to invade next by michael moore if it it's an amazing movie and it's so funny and fun and we'll get you talking my wife and I've been talking about it ever since because it just has such interesting ideas I will watch it on your recommendation please do I trust you yeah I trust you um okay that's we've done everything except our favorite part of the show which is photographer all about you yes then you took this photo with your iphone 6 plus and honestly just it's a little rainy today and I missing I want to go to there I would like to go to there uh which is easily photo it's really how joyous they are fully like Logan will move it to the full screen producer Logan will give us the full screen it is so crisp and clear i love it too yes or else and say i took this picture back in August when I was in California photo was taken with my iphone 6 plus in the photo it's monica on the right and destiny to the left you have my full permission to use it this is a photo if you take it with your iphone it's a little dangerous cuz that wave hits a little hard your phone goes tumbling into the ocean I was having no phone great maybe she had a yea yea smita the bold phone tog refer bonus or something maybe ok I mean really lovely photo if you want to be our phone tog refer of 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