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this Netflix have too many freaking programs and which Hollywood Chris rules them all well hey what's going on everybody welcome to nope sorry the debate show where I Jeff Bakalar debate my friends and colleagues over three rounds of dead serious discourse I'm fully prepared to lose friends over this nonsense joining us today Sadie Dennis from TV Guide what's going on Sadie not on I'm ready to destroy you that's comforting who's gonna be our judge for this program today us well it's none other than Liam Matthews what's going on Liam how are you sustained overruled you're taking the judging thing way too seriously and now I'm also realizing that I've once again screwed myself by picking two people that work for a company that is not mine and I am at a disadvantage I just need to get that out of the way to start here's how the game works Sadie and I will debate for three rounds whoever makes the best case each round will get some of the five points or hopefully all the five points that are up for grabs Liam's gonna sign the points I have no shot at winning let's start the first topic now what is it Liam so Netflix has more original content than anyone could watch if they live for a hundred years and they keep adding more and more are there too many shows on Netflix you have 90 seconds on the clock go okay Netflix obviously has too many programs too much original content on its platform it is getting ridiculous there's so many goddamn shows they're starting to cancel the good ones like American vandal and maybe Netflix maybe every now and then you say no to somebody maybe you don't let every asshole over the script and a camera to make a show stop green lighting everybody what are you doing all the good stuff is falling through the cracks it's a bit it's it's obvious I don't understand why you have to it's not like fishing you don't feel like cast out a huge net and hopefully you like scrape up a breaking bed while you're dragging the whole lake through the whole process it's nonsense stop saying yes to everybody Netflix you got too many goddamn shows who the hell is gonna watch all that Netflix absolutely does not have too many shows their historic life is bleeding right now without them producing more original content they're not gonna have a Netflix anymore do you want to get rid of Netflix cuz that's what you're saying everyone's launching their own streaming service Netflix needs to build up their original library and yes some of those shows are gonna be duds but like their shows have always kind of been bad like house of cards was never great think of it like a numbers game like the more shows they produce the more good shows they're gonna make and Netflix isn't about like the big mainstream appeal it's about nish appeal so most of these shows probably won't be for you but that means they're gonna be targeted to all these different specific demos and that means that they can also invest in these little shows that otherwise wouldn't be getting renewed like one day at a time I I don't know I just feel like how many people are watching some of these shows okay Liam that was a heated debate I'm sweating just a tiny bit how did that shake out in your opinion well Sadie is right about nish appeal but you are right that there are too many shows so I award three points to Jeff and two points to Sadie okay I respect your decision those okay grudgingly accept that okay fair enough that's your opinion round two Sadie will be going first Liam what's the topic so TV ratings are declining every year as streaming services become more and more prevalent do you need cable in 2019 absolutely not there are way cheaper and more customizable options you can do services like DirecTV or subscribe to networks like FX or an see if you want their content or just get Hulu for $12 a month you get their streaming library original shows current shows old shows and no ads that's already better than cable plus for $40 you can get DVR and live TV the cheapest the cheapest optimum package is $60 you get so much more with Hulu no but I think you can get like all the premium cable in it it's so much easier and you can watch these on your TV your computer your tablet you can watch this anywhere cable it's not that convenient to watch on the go or in bed like there's no reason have it if you have like Hulu or FX plus or all of these other options look I understand what you're saying and that's fine that sounds it a little like commercial but will disregard that I am someone who doesn't actually have cable but I still think there's reasons for cable this year and moving forward live television that is a huge deal and if you're like me and if you like sports I'm a die-hard hockey person if I wasn't able to watch hockey live I don't know what I would do Hulu is live TV they know the real stuff doesn't work that well they don't play nice together there's still this legacy of like garbage where you still have to buy a cable subscription for regional sports and then what about like award shows like you know the Oscars if you're if you're late on Twitter to that you're in trouble no one watches those anyway you're not wrong okay Liam what do you think about that round Jeff you said you don't have cable I I write but like it's not about you know you got to make the best case for the topic you have like five points to say t oh man oh that was crazy no one's ever done five to zero you are bad he's a good case Hulu had live TV yeah but it's a different live TV Thank You Bryan seven two three is now the score I basically have to like smoke you this round alright here's gonna be a weird one Liam's gonna introduce the round we are going to preemptively tell you what we've chosen before we get to the debate so Liam why don't you introduce this final round man I got all dude five nothing Oh TV Guide is doing a thing called the 12 days of Christmas where we celebrate all the Hollywood Chris's now the four most important Chris's are Pratt pine Evans and Hemsworth each of you pick your Chris there are 90 seconds on the clock alright so before we go I will be choosing the best Chris the Pratt variety and who is your Chris obviously a pine obviously pine okay I guess we'll get the 90 seconds on the clock and here we go okay I dare you to find a more lovable Chris a more likeable Chris sure perhaps he is imperfect but he can he can do many roles he can be tough guy super hunky guy or he could be a comedy darling like he portrayed in in Parks and Rec sure mistakes were made of the Jurassic variety and you know who you showed me a perfect person and I'll show you I'll show you a perfect fortune and his name is Chris Pine we can do it all he's hot he's funny he's woke he's smart he can sing he's the most versatile actor he'll do wet hot American summer and hell or high water he'll do Angie Tribeca and Zia for Zechariah like Chris Pine is the most versatile Chris like the Chris's represents sameness but pine is distinct he was caftans he was a flip phone that's lame Chris Pratt is objectively the worst he brags about eating the happiest lambs on the planet he had to apologize to his hearing-impaired fans for an insensitive like post on Instagram his dog was found emaciated wandering the streets like he's out of touch he said that there are no blue color films in Hollywood Pratt isn't passengers Chris Pine will wear win an Oscar pine for ever Chris Chris Pratt sucks who can talk to Raptors that's the dumbest ever seen that movie sucks Sadie should win this round you know you made a very compelling emotional case Sadie gave very good facts but I didn't feel it in the same way but the facts don't lie I got to give four points to Sadie one point two Jeff all right at least I didn't get shut out again so four to one that makes the final score 11 to 4 CD Guinness this has been a pleasure III would pleasure losing to you all I can say is that you are the winner of this Oh God okay so this week you get a very authentic musical washboard I'm unsure how you use such a thing this is not musical at all nevertheless that is your gift to take home and mount on your on your wall thank you so very much to say to Guinness thank you so very much to Liam Matthews thank you for TV Guide for lending us these fine people we will be back next week with a brand new show if you have an idea then I should debate next week please do yourself a favor and leave that in the comment section below Chris Pratt sucks that's all I can say Sadie had it right i gracefully bow out of this one we'll see you next time you