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what is going on ladies and gentlemen thanks for joining us on another very special edition of open tab I'm Jeff Bakalar and with me this week is senior editor Josh Goldman ladies and gentlemen aight josh is our digital imaging and drone editor driving editor he's a drone editor flying things all over the office sometimes mostly just aggression one time he hit me in the face I needed reconstructive surgery it was a shadow pass anyway he's our drone guy so he knows all about the latest and greatest in the world of drones and 360 cameras and all that junk so if we have a question stop what you're doing and type type it out in a little comment section below and we'll get it to Josh when we can so we're going to have mike sorrentino here he's going to be monitoring the chat room I'm money in the chat room I am NOT playing runescape or playing games like minecraft like seven people to chat thought last week I am absolutely here watching your youtube chat which is going right now and we'll get your questions into the show today okay we also have Joey in the control room he's doing something with the teleprompter not well but he's doing something ah this week's umbrella topic is whether or not we want big things big things big this week what's that big tech big tect large tech tech you can't fit in your pocket you can only fit in your trunk like the samsung galaxy note 7 that was released earlier this week and there's all kinds of larger tech rigs coming in and have the office all the time but let's start with this game of drugs game addo would be like that Gary sure you're like some one ever said if you feel like someone's done that power so Josh thanks for being here sure what are the differences between a large drone like the Phantom and one of these rinky-dink I found this in a cracker jack box drone what is the difference obviously the size that goes without saying covered sighs all ready yet but what like if I really missing out on something cool by just having this little little guy here um it all depends on what you want to do with your drone so I yeah what do I want to do with my flying around your living room hitting your cat in the head that's the one you want right so so pet abuse yes this is mainly used well I mean that in child abuse all I cackles the same as well of course just scare all the castle a address yes but that one's it was a toy no camera on that one right and that one in particular is made to roll up walls or also just fly okay that's cool that's an interesting design like that so you got ones like that that are tiny and don't don't do all that much right and then you move up and you got other ones like I got this one here okay that one there what's this um that is the sky Viper sky Viper snakes can't fly uh v 2400 HD should is it is a HEA you plug it in us i can do anything okay um but my blink anyway that one's got a camera flies up in the air that's a little bit more outdoorsy ok you fly that around your yard flight around your house too depending on size of your house I guess right so what am I getting with like you know everyone sees these vlogs and everybody there rocking that phantom right so things a lot of money the fam yeah it's a lot of money because it has a lot more tech in it yeah it's got a much better camera stabilization for indoors okay so that you can fly it and you don't need normally you would need GPS signal outdoors in order to keep it hovering in place and not just flying off so that's what you get with like the Phantom's you get better stabilisation better features ability to set it up and fly a flight path are they harder to fly uh no actually they be easier to fly bigger than has your it is the fun well I mean here this one is big but it's essentially a toy um it doesn't have I don't know if they can see no oh yeah they could see that so that thing look at this you got that it this is essentially toy it's it's a larger drone it comes with a HD camera on it okay um but it doesn't it's not just not gonna fit Steve yahoo stabilization right it's not going to stabilize the cameras fixed so you can't do it you can't like pan and tilt it right it's algo para on there and no this is cozy mike is a fake ass go pro baseball no I that keeps in the toy realm when it's not a full-fledged camera well no I mean it's a full-fledged camera but I mean that is not it's a full pro it's not a great quality ilike that it's a faux pho pro there you go pro pro pro i'm just gonna wear this on my face the rest i like that but again this doesn't have GPS in it although it's the same nearly the same size as a phantom yeah have gps ray doesn't have anything that doesn't have like the fans you know everything does already it doesn't really the phantom 4 is got like collision avoidance system really yeah how's it do that it's got sensors in front so that just got airbags basically I airbags not yet yet virtual airbags maybe does it have a parachute no it does not there are drones a parachute there are well there are drones that you can attach parachutes to that they will if I have a phantom phantoms are like 1,500 bucks right uh not really we that mean that highest end 10 K 13 yet so 30 I'm putting a parachute on my $39 drone okay you're just like falls out of the sky I'd like it well ideally shouldn't users all out of the sky yeah I guess now so like how does that I do have do drones have like fail-safes that prevent them from falling out of this guy because I feel like what if the battery craps out well I mean yeah the whole idea with the Phantom's is that's constantly giving you feedback on the on what's going on with its flight okay so if the battery starts to get low it's telling you that your battery's getting low you don't have to worry about that so this is a great episode because i don't i don't know we're searching for the curse word I was gonna say different word but then I realize where we were we already have by the way ROG in our chat wondering if any of these chats can be any of these drones can be used for covert operations Wohlford a word he used is first he said stalking then he said area 51 what which is a little ridiculous but all right joins in general are pretty noisy aren't they yeah they're loud I can you can fly one two hundred feet up and still hear it really yeah they're not they're not quiet that's why and besides they all gather a helicopter yeah and for the most part they all have really wide angle lenses on them as you know go further away with a wide angle lens the things in the get smaller and smaller it's not like they have all zoom lens sure you can fly up 200 feet and then sure you know zoom in on somebody okay and if you're flying twenty feet above somebody shooting them in their backyard pool you know then there they're gonna know but they're gonna know they're gonna be like Oh someone's creeping out and they're gonna take a broom and knock it down and then probably point maybe with a shotgun like I've read to ya sir okay so do we have to register like which what kind of drones do I need to register if I live in the US so it's not the drone you're registering your you're registering yourself as a drone owner a drone er a drone er don't think that's a thing but now it is we coined it here so anything basically any drone over point five five pounds so anything over a half a pound you you have to register with the FAA why why is it a weight thing um oh I guess because because if it falls from the sky or flies into somebody I guess right I don't know that's just what they went with this is over this is probably a pound that feels heavy yes so so yeah you probably in order to fly that you'd have to register yourself with the FAA and throw um you have to throw your you get a little number right a registration number you throw there on the drone or oh really okay just something fixed inside the drone you can like put it in the battery cash or whatever Kenan wants us to fly the drone but that would not work out well in this small studio Oh living room no I feel like we could do we could do it do you want to just you go for it yeah okay can this guy know why not that guy because we as one might knock over every started up but you're gonna do some damage with this all right I've seen you fly friend what do I do power on no don't do it totoo that would let's do it tiny shiny ass but tiny one with the cage on it yeah the one with the UH with the so go ahead turn it on okay I'm gonna activate this little there we go put it down the floor on the floor yeah put on the floor all right mohabbat is specializing that it's a quadcopter not a drone is there a major difference uh so yeah it's a common thing with with the people who want to argue such things ya know technically I guess it's not a drone what you do I hit the button way you weren't supposed to hit any buttons you just must take off and on this weekend you have you have a lot of buzzing oh so how does this work how do I take off um huh how do I don't know now ok let's do I hit buttons it's not moving Oh drones up oh ok there it goes what happened oh hey you know the hang of the the ball there is kind of great alright well it was gone now and that's the story of drones basically you fly them until they disappear into a tree right I do so anyway don't find a live show wait what you were saying what was the question you had a quadcopter oh right quadcopter drone yes technically it's a quadcopter multi-rotor UAV whatever you want to call it the basically everybody decided to call it a drone and for marketing purposes drone works really well d yeah you know as opposed to UAV would you have to explain everything that's like more of like a militaristic thing yeah but I mean I don't know I it's there all their drones so they're all entertainer changeable terminology yeah and I don't know that oh look some le came back to us he came back in when I got him so you get it down okay I'll put it to Eleanor fly from here oh boy I guess man the bouncing part is kind of great is there I'm venez commenting he hates a short flight time with these toy drones do you find that with some of them yeah that's all of them oh they're all basic little mosquito it's like a little redic well now it's stuck okay well and this is why we don't fly I'll get fair enough but you mark I have another anyway wait no wait we for your quest you sure don't answer the person square short battery life alright short battery life so these are all all the toy ones is it nodes it's doing stuff yeah it's upset battery life shut that off okay anyway uh yeah the little ones they all last anywhere from five to eight minutes which is nothing no and a lot of them I mean it all depends on the model this one's got a removable battery some of them don't I i go for the ones with removable batteries because they tend to be inexpensive sure anyway so maybe canary a couple with you yeah so you get like 20 minutes of flight okay instead of five I mean that's the that's the main problem with a lot on show so if you want to fly a drone like flying a kite probably gonna have if you had the ability to have multiple batteries oh boy yeah sorry Jaffa whoa this thing this is a lot of fun this one's a lot of fun it goes it goes it's crazy yeah can you charge them off a like a battery pack like with Yale phone absolutely um it's totally doable Joe where are you with the camera oh I'm doing real good with this guy there see so when you lose Michael actually have you already flies Oh sexy oh my god that's awesome who catches their own drone this one's fun man can I have it after after I'm done with you yes well there you go this is like chili ah prepares oh I'm sorry I've roediger if somebody wants a toy drone versus professional John what do you think is the the the the customer level who who would want what uh I think in general most people want both mmm um the toy ones are nice because they're cheap yeah it also helps you learn how to fly without blowing a thousand bucks and crashing it into a tree totally benaam you've you've crashed it bit me maybe maybe wasn't mine Oh somebody else we will have to talk about that well fine um yeah you can get one I think this this one in front of us is like a 100 hundred dollars okay so you get that you fly that around park for a little bit and you realize okay I'm ready to move up to something more serious and flying this one is a lot more like we said earlier it's a lot more difficult to fly a phantom because those do just about the they're so stable and can fly themselves basically right and they're there you know as far as Jones go there they're really sore quad copters quadcopters there too right mmm they're easy to set up and start flying right away as long as you said somewhat detected tech-savvy okay fair enough um I've seen this personally myself I've seen drones show up in places that it feels like they're not supposed to be like an outdoor concert I saw him at fireworks yeah alright that seems stupid to ya that's to me that's dumber than the concert because fireworks I feel like you can get hurt or hurt somebody or maybe you can hurt somebody to constitute well what's up shooting the fireworks of course those legs into them seems silly but is it I feel like we're in a very weird time when it comes to drones and the legality of drones and can I a drone at a concert what are the legal ramifications I know you don't necessarily know how many years I'm gonna do and I like to actually how does that work like is it okay like what are you allowed to do what are you not allowed to do um you're not allowed to fly over people no I mean in general yeah you're not supposed to fly over crowds you're not supposed to go to stadiums right the FAA puts out you know bulletins with no fly restrictions so if there's a stadium you're not supposed to be flying over a stadium um while back somebody crashed a drone at the US Open like crash into the stand that's not quite it's not cool you're not supposed to do that so they got in trouble yeah yeah and I mean if you have permission to fly over the event then yeah if you're part of the film crew then right recording me of course and yeah you're allowed you know but um yeah some somebody just off the street me you shouldn't be flying over so I guess the good rule of thumb is if you're not sure odds are it's probably a bad idea yeah it will in general a lot of a lot of things that we you know here I'm is that they're just generally bad ideas right you know that's what makes it so like why am I getting a drone am I getting a drone to get like really cool aerial shots of something am I getting a drunk just to fly I've seen like drone racing is right and so that yeah like that's completely different we've been talking about the camera drones right order that toy drones but yeah there's also the racing drones which are all fpv and you know you put on the goggles and you that's cool fly through the goggles we did that around the office yeah real quick right yeah so all right I want to bring up my favorite subject that I know you have a very strong opinion on when it comes to Drew Josh how soon are we gonna get drone delivery from amazon.com how soon is my box of high choose that I ordered what's up what hi chew chewing the candies I don't know hide you know me right I have never heard of those that sound cheery no not big league chew as my producer Brian just said I'm talking hi choose their little little candies that they're like green apple is there Jolly Ranchers nope they're chewy they're gummies their gum they're the best candy ever I've ensure the chat room agrees with me chef's you got great you guys know what high shoes are let us know right h I dash chuh hi chu best that that's that's Japanese for best candy ever yeah would even seriously though what do we is drone delivery a real thing uh I'm sure it's a real thing I just don't don't necessarily understand why that's the thing that because of Europe there are so many good reasons to have drones there are so many good things I can do from agriculture to inspection to you know to even you know how many helicopters have crashed over the years shooting a movie where's can do it for half the cost in no lives at risk so I mean to have your package in 30 minutes or less okay fine I get it I don't need it I don't need my 12 pack of boxers to get here in 20 seconds I don't know but I don't know how badly I need new underwear exactly but what a but what about like human organ delivery yeah so for that it makes sense that I mean delivery of that nature delivering I they had a test where they flew they had the first ship to shore delivery of medication right delivering food to people who are stranded on a mountain or something like that that that makes sense supplies listen we get a chopper they're exactly the phantom there yeah well they're not gonna send a phantom but they'll send something else higher Harry oh yeah it can carry a load as it is full yeah that stuff is getting my package from amazon three minutes doesn't doesn't show me be honest tell the world stop with drone delivery no I'm not boring on so stop I mean I just don't see the fascination that's all that's me though I don't write but like and and let's think about it practically right you gonna live in a world where like 75,000 drones are taking up the sky and just delivering yes socks perhaps people you know in 30 minutes there's like you know you could just wait till the next day this is your footage we're looking at here right this amazing drone footage you've taken is it yes possible yes man you you know how to fly a drone man look at that then in our chats warning if you think we'll end up in drone cabs like self-driving cars that can be sweet and a few other people know what the candy we talked about are the it's like starburst or square candy it's like starburst but not crappy this isn't mine this is uh Andy's it's really good Oh Josh wants to know how much a phantom would be the fan room for like I don't know you're on the Internet okay like before I want to say cuz I've been looking around not that I'm gonna I want to see 1315 bantam for ya that's a lot of money it's like it's one of the higher end ones right it is one of that well I mean yeah MSRP about fourteen hundred dollars okay so a lot of money is spent on your funny-looking helicopter um so but the thing is is that there's a phantom right there yeah so there you go that's the thing that's cool ya know I think they're great people should buy them if they have someplace to fly them we has always been my problem in Jersey there's just really state parks are off-limits I think that's a big thing is that before you go out and sink a thousand bucks make sure you got some place to fly totally if you live near a big city odds are you're not gonna have a lot of choices or options for flying yeah so just I would do that first I mean look josh has already been in jail seven times since he started reviewing drones no but mark will tell you we got chased off by by county county troopers oh that's right um so yeah it's um it's real it's real struggles real everybody ah Mike we have some shoutouts to give to our live viewers here yeah thank you guys so much for being a part of our chat today a couple shoutouts over to Charles wants me to say hello hi chuck chuck would see a tech pimp said the four we wanted to talk about phones which talk about later but high ranks for joining us we also had Josh slicing her from our last question Brandon Prince lemonade had worked really hard to watch our street he was having some technical issues so I'll royalty have your house Prince 78 and then M gave us a couple questions as well as 0 nce oh there's a little bit of a fight going on in the chat people are being like Oh Mike the laptop guys so bad so bad stop talking bad things of how this one person said so thank you let's see in my know we were we're not doing live chat expecting it would be nice get a life nerds but we want your questions so please keep talking I don't really care less our comment from last week we're making fun of my red shirts so hard there are two things wrong with your red shirt yeah now we're on the internet fun even is wrong Oh get off the inner you hiding into that catch me maybe I blended into the background you were just exploding head perhaps um Oh said that what it was they're calling me your star trek Eric maybe that's a compliment though I said Richards always die ooh oh if you heard that apparently red shirts always die I don't know that man is recording our track Oh guys I know we're like CBS I don't know I don't know dick about Star Trek Jones with children says Raj what Raj would like a drone with a helium balloon powered by solar using it as free Wi-Fi as Google lumen project rather need more people we asked whatever that is I mean free free Wi-Fi is always well it don't know for whatever I like the way you think Raj yeah um all right I think we're gonna take a break all right right we're gonna take a break we're going to watch a video the new app there's new apple store at the World Trade Center in that ridiculous looking I kill this thing they built down there stay tuned more open tab coming right at you fade to black it was just a few weeks ago we were in Williamsburg at the opening of apples very first Brooklyn store today we're in downtown Manhattan at another apple store grand opening this time under the majestic oculus that looks down over the world trade center transit and shopping hub technically part of something called the Westfield Shopping Center the upscale stores here or more Soho than shopping mall and this new apple store has a lot of the updated features apple is rolling out across its retail locations including an informal seating area called the forum with wooden cubes and a giant hi-res screen and avenues along the walls of the store where you can browse a different categories try on watch straps and phone cases and if you like them just find them in a drawer or on a shelf right there and of course like any apple store grand opening hi you've got me know they've lined up to clap and cheer enthusiastically for the first customers to get welcomed in with a t-shape yeah welcome back see you nuts open tab at the top of the show we mentioned Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 that's the company's latest large screen phone and we're going to run through a number of bigger devices that are completely real and in the news this past week and go over what we think of those so first with the galaxy note 7 who our own colleague Jessica dulko dull court reviewed this week here's what's going on inside the galaxy note 7 it's got a 5.7 inch curved screen it runs Android marshmallow come on we all know nougats new hotness 64 gigabyte agree days away from nougat I'm sad well I think nougats next week isn't it I can I guess it should i do get on it look let's get that out of the way it should have nougat on it legally announcement will but it's just not a who knows when 64 gigs of storage iris scanning that will scan your eyeball so you can unlock the phone because that's the thing we all want an S Pen Stylus water-resistant for 30 minutes in five feet of water and it starts at the low low price of 850 dollars my god since it's a phone big big costly expensive phone what do you guys think about the galaxy note 7 so personally I'm not into big phones not really i have an iphone SE cuz i wanted that exact shape i really really like having a 4-inch iphone so that when I'm on the subway or a train I could hold it with my one hand and not get robbed by somebody ranking it out of my hand is that a thing I feel like that's a thing maybe I'm paranoid I think you are but I mean you don't yeah but I wanted to take damage from paranoia I wanted a better processor but I Scott in our office had the phone and I held it and it has a real good grip to it because of its curved screen okay so even though it's like a five point eight inch screen I could actually see myself holding it right and this is a year about is if I think it's 5.8 that has this a five-point let me convert all the juices um this is a 5.7 mm hmm it's manageable i also have freakishly large hands at CS 6 inch that's the six edge here yeah there's a 6m so the but the note is significantly larger than that the note was it's a just a little bit larger than that but it didn't feel that way somehow and has the pen inside but on the whole I prefer I wish more smaller phones were out with better specs more and more like reasonable phone sizes appear to be like getting the shaft in terms of features sure but they'll be lower in costs but maybe I want to watch a 1080p movie on a four-inch phone I know nobody else does but I would like to yeah but you you don't need to watch a 1080p movie on a 4 inch from like you would you could get away with watching like a 360p movie but do you know I mean like what what do you guys know I'm just I mean I get away from it but like there's still a color gamut thing going on where it just looks a little better but you can tell somebody huh let him have his full i jest oh I'm not trying to I'm not trying to like crap on it you are again but you are you are so alright I guess I understand what you're saying but like going back to the notion of like big tech like yeah it seemed like we were going in one complete you know up over the top sort of like phablet direction for a while and now I don't think what you want out of a phone is uncommon I do think people want something that's not as gigantic as 5.7 enough this thing I have a hard time with what that's yours no this is well it's it's our house iphone that we I do camera testing stuff right and that's a 6 plus this is a 6 plus yeah success plus 6s plus and yeah it's just it's i mean i've got big hands in that yeah it's uncomfortable to use so but like my point is also this and i guess like this is maybe a crappy sort of comparison but like these are pretty i guess these are pretty much the same size right yeah they do but the green looks a little bit my screen might be a little bigger hmm that's not all yeah and that's all it is the topic of today's show is your bigger is better except for Michael dough yeah never mind so I guess what is your us what do you like about having a larger phone what's the fun that you have again I have a nexus 6p um I I like it a great deal i also wish like I know before this I had an LG g3 which had the same screen size but wasn't as tall it's like for me you got to figure out a way to like make the edge to edge as a sort of tiny as possible like I want I don't want any of I don't want any of the front of the phone to be wasted on like this part the white part I know that's asking a lot but uh but that's for me like that's the next day or is it it's pretty much one to one like there's a lot of like space up here that I'm pissed off about so Raj jumped in in our chat saying that I say this time a phone company should put their money on R&D on batteries make super capacitor batteries smaller in size so I Got News for a better life that is what everyone is working on everyone wants to figure out a way to improve battery life to me that is the next big technological Renaissance that we will hit is like amazing battery life and we're just not there yet and that's why the Apple iWatch to that's coming out I don't think is really going to impress anyone you know they're talking about rumors about the watch was supposed to have a cellular connection independent from an iphone and now that's probably not going to happen so it's battery thing will get there we're just not there yet and a few chatters Quincy Brandon and Oscar are talking about the iris scanner that's in the galaxy note 7 which is that's it's I believe new for samsung in that phone yes one of them saying that people would like it if it's on iphone I'm creeped out by iris scanning in general I don't like the term iris scanning Irish scanning implies that i need to like well do this let's do that let's come up with an apple name for iris scanning because i'm sure they'll have i scan that's what golly oh no that's a local know like when you put the word iris in it just implies something clockwork orangey and I don't want to do that just call it something else just caught like a pupil looker I don't know just don't call it iris baluchre people look here that's terrible yeah alright let's move along Josh you recently reviewed the GoPro Omni 360 it's a $59 rig that assembles together six cameras to take immersive video and if you don't have the cameras it costs five thousand dollars to get it all in one package what did you think of this gigantic GoPro omni mr. Goldman uh it's it's not gigantic okay it's no that's right it's actually like yeah it's manageable you can see it does yeah you see it on the baby it's like the Sun it's like what would you describe the size that it slightly did cantaloupe can't Oh perfect I can totally relate myron kandel oh ok yeah I'm important anyway uh yeah so uh I didn't review it we got a demo of it okay which was great because we got to see but you know can demo oh my god so like look at the thing that's giving you this yeah so it is pretty incredible because it's got six cameras and written it's getting all that and it gives you a resolution up to 8 k Wow not that you need that for most things anything 4k is nice so does that it's just it's it's really streamlined I'd say that instead of worms of like stitching all that stuff together yeah so I mean it's a complete product unlike where they've had mounts that you can slap the GoPro cameras you're sort of on your own exactly once you get through that this keeps all the cameras synchronized so you're not going in and like clapping before you start rolling or you know be so you know where you have to start editing right or anything how does it do that it's all day all plug into the inside of the mount and go pro allows for like a sort of universal tethering thing down well let's go pros rig got it so it's a came up with it yeah so they designed it it's all really cool all the stuff synced together you press you have one master camera right and you turn that one on all the other ones come on you pressed record all the all of them start recording at the same time right pretty cool yeah no it's great now how much is this it's $1,500 oh right we have you read that part I did I hit and five grand if you don't have the GoPros well I mean that five grand all in package comes with software the color software that is used for merging everything together and editing it so you get the color auto panel software you get the rig you get the cameras you get micro SD cards right card readers they say is that you yeah you get an external battery get this whole case that it comes in right it's I added it up and it's over five thousand dollars okay so but hopefully someone brings it to space or your water and I could have like an immersive underground space well I wouldn't have that in space yet they have an underwater rate because there is there are water shots of it being you gotcha um I don't know can't do anything for you right so 15 things you figure out the space thing 1505 a lot of money is there a cheaper more affordable way to get 360 video yes oh it will not be as good as what comes out of those go well it's made for professionals sure it's and that's a nobody should confuse that as a as a you know consumer or even a prosumer rig yeah this is it's firmer super hyah yeah it's for its for somebody who really wants to produce 360 video right if you want to just mess around with it yeah there are options that are ready there for you oh you have some of them here to just show us real quick like a cheaper 360 video thing what's that that iphone edition where what happened yet I stole it alright so I don't know he's the camera yeah so this is the insta 316 a no it's unfortunately only really good for iphone users so I'm out of luck with a galaxy but we've got the galaxy 360 are the gear 360 anyway but what this is it's got the little lightning adapter in the bottom and then you just pop it in and hopefully it'll come to life takes a second pop that in and then the the phone we go launches from 360 really that's right now even though none of the lens are directly facing me technically that's really cool what are you doing oh he just pull out there oh nice okay oh right yes I'm gonna put on the front of my skateboard or that or the drug that upsets me all these weekend I mean you can use it handheld yeah it's really cool though it's like look without the iphone you have to turn the iphone upside down so the lock word for what it's worth man that's impressive like it's it is and it's only 200 bucks so that if you just want to mess around and and share some cool 360 stuff with your friends right this is totally a good way to go if you're looking for something really you want to get in 360 editing and stuff like shut you're not going to mess around with this so what do you think man is 360 here to stay do people really want that I think so actually had this conversation earlier today even the thing of it is is that compared to a lot of people compared to 3d like when I like Oh everybody was like let's shove in 3d down our throats yeah so that didn't really pan out I think the big difference is you don't need glasses to enjoy this right there's no yes you can throw it in your VR goggles and enjoy it that way but you and me you're just sitting here watching 360 on the phone and you can do it on any phone or tablet and YouTube has like a sole recipient claim to Brannigan and Facebook so yeah they it's just it's there it's it's it's whatever sharing yeah yeah so in yeah still in our hand over my phone to people and I show him a 360 video they're super impressed with it they don't care about the image quality right the image quality for the consumer ones is pretty bad at this point I mean some are better than others but yeah it'll get better all right right now it's pretty much a play with it donor don't don't expect great things from it but play with it very good very informative we're going to move on to our last story of the day / week pepper the robot is a four foot high customer man four foot for foot high but it's not a four foot high customer oh no no it's a four foot high customer customer service it's not like a four foot person who's really hot it knows now stone for foot person let's just get that out of the way ok so this four-foot tall customer service robots spent last week greeting customers at the be eight ta Tek store in San Francisco the robot is programmed to talk with customers follow voice commands and read human emotions to judge how to react to bed every time I look at this thing I want to run away in fear so what's the deal with this robot do we know anything more about it it I don't like the way it looks it looks like it's like scared of me and humans and I would imagine walking into a Walmart or summer department store and this is what you'll see and this past week in San Francisco that text or that's what was happening so sure what was the reaction like I know Lexi's there what did she say about it uh I did more but the video I saw only explained it what it does and that it's able to gauge human reaction and so if it was really awkward is that it was gyrating jar presumably if it senses you're angry maybe a little dance to try to calm you down or directly out of the door I don't know how I don't wind up kicking I once worked at Macy's for holiday help yeah and there were definitely a couple times where you wanted a rowboat you wish I could deal with people a robot could have like I could have folded the clothes when the robot would have talked to a couple of people write the robots got endless amounts of patient or the other way around I guess the robot could fold the clothes that I could deal with the people right okay all right especially they like high stress levels high stress high levels of stressful holiday shopping right the UH but it's interesting to see how more my robots could take over jobs more anymore it's interesting and I guess cosmically depressing mmm because im sue well it not I know this is not a serious show but I think like 15 20 years from now we might be in a little bit of trouble I believe we had a conversation prior to a starting where maybe you would have liked to have had a robot at the counter yeah yes exactly maybe robot could work on the mail that's failing yeah humans can't be trusted sometimes robots got a bit maybe robot would have known where your package may be a robot would've lost my package after I handed it to him on it it imagine telling a robot that it will robot waiter waitress that it got your order wrong I'm sorry the meat isn't cooked well enough let me take it back or just like allow me to zap it with my break or something like that that's a different future all right I keep getting it mixed up yet hey Mike do we have any other comments in the chat yeah a few little commenting on the robot bryan said it reminds him of the Jetsons yeah Ozzy Scott you are already out yeah um Oscar so many jobs have been lost attack a few other people had to non related questions to robots though do what I wanted to hear every anything you know about the Nintendo NX and that person wanted to thinks that there's a virtual reality possibility with it but I haven't heard any groom your guess is as good as anybody's because no one really knows a whole lot about that thing it's probably going to be a tablet with control with detachable controllers as some part of it that's really all we know that's the only thing that's been widely speculated antenna keeps things very private and secretive so you can pretty much guess anything and have it not sound crazy and then a doctor's you want to weigh in no you don't have you know you made a joke you bitch tell me you're gonna sit there and not have an opinion on the nintendo ln x ah my dirty secret is I don't gain that's not dirty at all what's next the Neil wants to know if we've heard anything about any other windows phones this year and I how long has been was then i can't pronounce the name correctly unfortunately video thats of okay how long have you worked for Microsoft no I don't know windows phones are not popular we don't we review them I've never used one have you ever used one Josh no no I mean no I'm not as you aisle yeah I have you what are they like it's kind of like using a zune in that as using it as a music player music app was actually quite great sure it would sort things out had a really good graphical interface but ultimately apps just weren't there yeah I'm a went really well I'm not trying to hate on windows phone but like you understand where we're coming from when we say like nobody uses that nobody I don't think there's a huge market in this country but other countries hours okay there's people at bottom me personally I don't know much about them I don't know what's coming out they're not exactly a crowd pleaser well I mean they all had at least some of the Nokia ones had good cameras in him they did there was that one with like the 58 megabit was 0 for 4 whatever that was it a 40 what was it I remember I have something like that anything else they might then back to the nes nintendo via actor going an ex baby mr. Biden exercise if the gamecube comes back with the nes a freak out like if there was a gamecube mini that would be amazing good night was pretty small if it gave me it was like what this big it was like the size of the omni thing yeah it was small I think was tiny what there's oh they're saying like back I mean yeah I would like some of those came cute games to come back like eternal darkness I was yeah if there's something package with may be eternal darkness mario kart Luigi's Mansion this is one of the Zelda's that could be a solid thing but if they are doing the NES first right so they're gonna do I like you would you would imagine they'll do a mini SNES you know plug-and-play sort of thing maybe a 64 I think that any s 1 is going to kill it this holiday season is there a PlayStation version of one of those things riginal playstation one that's like sanctioned by them there's just probably I'm sure it's all layers are probably rip off but maybe like if the Nintendo does well wait six months and then there'll be a little PlayStation device like so the show think about it like this they'll they'll release that mini nes it'll sell what it does i think it'll do really well then come out i'm already in line for one totally then they'll come out with one that has 30 different games on it and it'll be like blue or whatever that's what they're going to do and i would imagine SNES makes its way and maybe we get all the way up to gamecube i don't know gamecube though that I mean like that's still slightly complicated I don't know a lot of data there to an NES game is like 800 k yeah we're like a gamecube games a couple kegs yeah and then the chats pivoting spivey where we'll close out the Amazon phone is what they're talking about now but they just talk about whether they like our funding like yeah the fire phone that a boy android I think because we were talking about windows and then the shadow right there I remember playing with that thing and just being like oh this is bad but it had some cool ideas I remember that because had all the cameras all over it yeah cool on paper cuz I had like a stereoscopic 3d effects by watching your eyes and face yeah yeah and your 3d yeah 3d on your phone oh well Joey had a 3d phone yeah Joey buys everything um that's going to do it for us guys thank you so much for chiming in for watching us live however you consume the show really big thanks have a fantastic fun safe weekend keep the conversation going in the comments and tweet us what you thought of today's show using hashtag open tab I'll send us an email we're going to start doing email now we're giving this out we're sure we can go down I'm going to give it out yeah open tab at cnet com send us anything you want anything you'd like to send topics well that's that really is that it that don't like no yeah we gotta have some filter but but things won't go on the air if we can't put it on the air right sure right well I mean that still won't stop people from sending yeah we open a Pandora's box Oh will will dilate a little yeah it's real it all back and use your head thanks so much for watching everyone with snakes guys I you