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and good afternoon on Thursday October 27th are you tired of hearing from us yet have you turned off your YouTube notifications yet one more show how to see that today with the 359 podcast episode 131 with Roger Cheng and Alfred a yes and just like every other show today we'll be talking about Apple so get your get your macbook and apple TV questions ready uh-huh 30 thursday and we've had with two events back-to-back Microsoft and Apple its he is not exhausted right now you saying we're not what are you talking about on pure adrenaline all right there we go all right um because it's so exciting yeah well we'll talk about bit about that but yeah this shows all focus on apple today macbook pros no macbook air update new imac update a little bit of a toss out to apple TV so i'll give any questions about Apple leave them in the comment section Brian our producer will feed them to us we'll do our best to answer them let's let's get started all right audio is rolling let's get this podcast recording underway and will be back to take questions and comments and 32 welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day I'll get the crap you want to throw it I'm Roger Cheng I'm Alfred ring apple just wrapped up its event where we saw the new macbook pro the marquee feature on this long on this device is the long rumor touch bar now you are you blown away I am impressed by the fact that you know Microsoft yesterday they go with all this they go all out they have the surface studio this giant touchscreen I'm in the same book it's all touch and then you know Apple comes in with a simple update that's you know it makes so much sense it's just you know they didn't didn't go the extra route which is why don't you just do this do you I mean do you think that this revolutionizes a laptop I think revolutionizes are the strong words yeah I don't think it does that at all I think it's been a long time coming I mean coming from the company that you know put out the iphone where you know they thought of let's just make everything touch I don't understand why I took you know nine years after the oven came out for them to realize oh wait why don't we just have this thing but a lot of the features that they've showed off was like you can just do that with the trackpad right no sense right i mean it's comma it's a neat gimmick and I'm eager to check it out to see how many different applications actually take advantage of this bar but I mean part of me wonders why don't they just put in a full touch screen like the the demonstration with the DJ as he was kind of like scrubbing and chicken messing the audio like if you just had two virtual turntables on the screen this would be way you know one of the funnier things to me watching that DJ down was like you know I've always wanted to play you know turntables with my index fingers yes exactly it exactly you're not really you're not making any of the DJ motions you kind of like just moving your fingers back and forth some of the other features are pretty cool though I mean what the final cut pro demo I really liked the photoshop demo I thought was interesting even the emoji bar that made a lot of sense to me you know I know I know long have to go online and Google you know poop emoji and then copy and paste that into a well there you go Apple has changed your life that's that's how they're that's how they're changing poopy emojis are my fingertips now so um yeah I mean I don't know I I'm yeah I'm still a little kind of I'm still processing it but I'm not really that floored by it one of the other things the prices for all these macbooks have gone up there the starting price is 1499 and that's without the touch bar that's two hundred dollars more than the starting price of the existing macbook pro so you're paying a big premium for this feature right yeah that was a big reason why I have never bought a macbook pro or any Apple products besides their phones and iPods but it just never seemed worth it to me and it still doesn't even with this with the touch bar again because there's so many of the features that are on it you know I can use the trackpad for that and yep until it becomes like an industry standard or something that like everyone is using I really don't see I don't think it's worth an extra two hundred dollars know and I think you're right i think a lot of people are particularly interested people get interested about phones you know even tablet system degree but the computer is kind of like unless you need one you're not really going to run out and get it it's interesting to note the macbook air is still in the lineup it's basically unchanged no chip update nothing it's basically they're so Apple can say their mac line starts at nine ninety-nine yeah the macbook air though I mean with this new update though is pretty much dead it seems I'm yeah with you know the new macbook pro being thinner and smaller than the macbook air which is kind of a selling point now it's selling point is its price it's cheap so well look they're not updating it so obviously they don't really care about that much it's just out there because people still like it lastly you know they introduced a new TV app know what do you think it sort of it combines it's a single source for all your different video sources right you know it's funny Netflix isn't on it though which is one of the largest that's not a problem right yeah I don't know I'll to leave it at that for more on Apple check us out at Cena I'm Roger Cheng I'm Alfred Aang thank you listening can I do my impression sure I do my attention of the microsoft event and the apple event alright do they do this is my my official recap my views do not reflect the opinions of cnet com nope it's just Brian okay Brian calm I was doing it oh my gosh whoa whoa wow that's dramatic and Microsoft drop the mic really he croissant under his desk laid that was just for now and I ruined it you know it just carries electro I brought both presentations we were like kinda ho hum I presentation-wise okay but that product well I think product wise yeah yes the only thing is that Microsoft may have dropped the mic on this like crazy awesome or crazy big surface studio but it's not a product that like anyone's gonna buy like talking about price like the starting price of that thing is 3200 or more innovations and Microsoft and there were yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the product was much better i just think from a consumer angle it's kind of like he's right who's gonna buy this you know my guess it look Myka distances I think I can stop did a good job I don't even know if businesses are gonna maybe some but I've certainly talked to a few art and photography people that I've worked with him that's right that's a are moving at the mouth that's like a totally sure is it's like the same folks who buy the mac pro that's not that's not a huge number but I think it's more impressive because Microsoft is trying to build an aspirational product like that's something you're like oh my god it's awesome super cool i'm never gonna buy it but at least it's you know it shows you what Microsoft can do and so in that respect I think that's impressed like this this macbook pro is it's like it's nice i guess it's line it's cool i mean i don't doesn't make me want to buy it doesn't make me think that apple's any cooler or better I just can't wait until 2017 for the Apple studio with their dial and everything they do apples slate they think that was a long rumor name for the ipad apple sleigh it'll be like this giant thing that folds up and down mysteriously like when i said the word pad out loud in the entire world collectively yeah there's a little bit of giggling a little yeah i'm personally just I'm kind of interested in in this touch bar thing only because I do a lot of audio editing your what you're welcome by the way but i'd like to see how that I she ate that day I would like to see how that performs it believe me I'm not trying to say you're being like this next innovation yeah interface technol like oh that dealt could actually be nice like I said I'm keen to see how many different apps take it down to this cuz like the more apps that do I mean yeah it becomes handy and actually useful it just against it doesn't really excite me I think it's a nice subtle update i don't i don't you're right i don't think it's exciting I think it's subtle where it's like this is really cool and we weren't that extra about it as opposed to Microsoft studio or it's this giant thing and then the 100-dollar the file and then even their demo of it where it's like are you take it then you stick it on your screen like a magnet and you like which combination cut awesome I mean it's so extra I don't even know yeah I don't know if there's any use for that for me but just knowing that I could do that it's kind of awesome very like Minority Report obviously if anyone's still kind of out of the loop as I am cuz i did not get to see the whole keynote oh yeah so Apple or Microsoft Apple yeah yep so if you're looking for some context obviously check scenic come on youtube com has seen that we got clips rolling out wait up way to plug us hey that's why we are here well any questions batteries what what's this is it situation with showers yeah that's lame ten hours that's a slightly more than the previous version I mean yeah six hours less than the surface book bingo true also that's half the yolk video memory i watch is the surface book isn't that pretty expensive too it is a sermon they're older than they should be at this point yeah you're right um USB apple is just or USB sample is just amputating oh my you you have to just make this comment down goes everywhere yeah you need to have dongles if you are an Apple user now like for anything because someone hands you a thumb drive here what do we do with this your cum that dongle boy I can't wait for you know the q4 reports from Apple where it's an accessory sale all our sales are way up in dongles we all their profits record profits all Dougal's it's official i quit see now i'm gonna go into dongle creation there's plenty i'm gonna be a door-to-door dongle salesman that sounds so dirty uh anyone in the chat let's see what you think good to get let's hear the touchpad or the the ir the dot yeah touch bar or dial what do you want a team parker team strips take those yeah legendary coined that on her twitter oh that's so good Thank You Bridget yeah well done Bridget so yeah team polar team strip kisim teams Tripoli for Brandis I'd known brand aside there's no loyalties here what do you think is actually a better peripheral here's my thing though the puck if what if it's compatible with other devices it work ok so you don't you do not just the civilian surface I think you just need a Windows 10 device with an anniversary edition oh that I'm totally 14 pug think about life I don't need the big like oh you don't need you don't need they do down any laptop any touchscreen laptop yes yeah then it's definitely that because with the strictest but I quite figured out there's a real use from the dial thing like that seems like well if I can just vai that and then just go to other places and do it and look cool so I've used unfair it's a hundred dollar extra yeah strip comes with the macbook air yeah but that's 300 Christ version that has address yes yeah I've used devices in the past that have employed a dial type feature I like old mixing consoles when i was doing radio whisper audio though yeah yeah and it's not a completely uncomfortable completely new territory for me so as far as like getting used to that thing do you remember like when when trackballs came out versus a mouse forces of good and people like oh is this i don't know how to use my hands anymore and I don't think that's the case with a dial with a lot of us Magnus still poems like actually thought trackballs are awful yeah when you're in page design track balls are awesome man we got a lot of Apple loyal users who are disappoint really mm-hmm that's it look if you got to take the the bar and then put it on any other of your Apple devices I decide with that but I you know i'm i'm like more into like open environments right whereas you know this is like lodged into your your keyboard okay so we were talking about this before the show like I'm sitting here with my company sanctioned macbook and look at all this dead space down at the bottom here why is that not all touch if not like swappable touch true and then I'm just thinking about the movement for it to where it's like you know you're typing and then this right it's very fresh that it's kind of awkward that's why I mean and what happens I think they just add a full touchscreen monitor I feel like it's more comfortable to do this that it is to do like and then what happens if it cracks then it's kind of like you don't have an education that's why you gotta get applecare and see that was the one thing when I I had windows laptops for a long time i got a Mac many years ago and the first thing it took me and I'm still not I can't say like I'm completely adjusted to is the digital volume control this button base not dial be yeah yeah oh yeah it's fair that I will always hate that because if my I'm doing something intense and my left to be honest older macbook at this point that i'm editing audio at home and I kill the RAM on it and it's like hold on a second I can't make it quieter yet that sucks yeah that that's that that sucks you push the button you're sort of waiting for it to go yeah come on come on shut up yeah lame but now at least it was an exciting week we have a lot to look forward to getting here at the office and getting to experiment with yeah that's true i mean i think dan ackerman who's out there for the event he'll be back shortly we should all get our hands on it check it out throw it around you know like we might have this recycle but we might have to choke him to get it that's all right we'll just who time down yeah yeah the time there's three of us one of him yeah anything you you wished you saw at the from the Apple that like anything you know you were hoping to see do you think that Apple is going to have a reactionary surface studio next year mmm do I think they're just gonna do more stuff to their iPad pro though probably yeah I just yeah the studio I can't I can't see them doing because that's more akin to an imac what about their stock what do you think their stocks can go after this week you know I don't think it matters that much yeah i mean the macbook is like ten percent of that of apples revenue so honestly they they could just keep it going they didn't have to update the macbook at all and the revenue would have liked chugged along yeah but their phone sales have been going down like this work they were down on the last quarter but you have to remember that there was a supply constraint which meant a lot of the revenue hadn't been recognized yet because a lot of folks weren't getting their iphones yeah i just got my iphone like two weeks ago and i ordered it like the day of so they're there I think I willing to bet that it's a much stronger fourth quarter and here's a bold statement the dial is the new mouse got a lot and we got a pretty good balance of team put puck and team strips but right I list the new mouse that is bold that is that's I don't really know if that's the case like it feel like that's uh it got very isolated uses I thought I saw I thought it was gonna be a mouse when I saw like it actually like scroll around like you could use it like a water leak anomaly I don't think it works that way I thought when I when I first saw it I thought OHS but then they zoomed out and then I saw the mouse on the side right what's not a mouse you gotta do anything you can't type anymore you're just a mouse and dial no more keyboard shout out to a team fat dank what and then they don't get it you're too old all right and when I saw it I thought it was just like a like a echo kind of thing or something like a like a speaker alia Cortana thing but it wasn't that good I mean it has its own mics I mean yeah it's almost like its own Yeah right like you can talk to it i guess you well you can't talk to Siri can you get the whole you look at the bud for yeah i did still don't have cereal oh yeah well they have cereal that's here i'm back they just you can't really cover our old buddy mike is in the chat and he says could easily have gone without this macbook event I agree I kind of a tree they can squeeze this into an iphone event it's gonna pin an email by the way a new bug oh no usually they are their press releases right like here's the new mex whatever Danny's just pointed out something really effective like that I didn't even occur to me um being that I shoot a bunch of stuff on SD cards here on cameras for the for the company there's no SD card slot no there's not oh nothing native plugging in anymore how am I supposed to get my footage on the camera dongles shut up tell me the answer for everything oh my gosh well do the dog Wow Thank You Denny no cuz I mean I take tons of shots in my SLR that's not having the slots not a Alberto points out there are plenty of other card formats too but there's still no native slop or any of those so it's going to be a card doc or nothing or yeah straight cable I don't know if they did that for courage or just a cut today sorry for her definitely courage right team dongle still you know they do have head a headphone jack so there is that I was long before now the only T is my iphone 7 headphone will that work on this thing so haha will work on any would max anyways yeah that's the funniest thing that you need a dongle to charge your phone your iPhone on your macbook now cuz it doesn't go to us bc does it yeah sure why it doesn't it goes to USB oh yeah yes oh my god i'm just picturing picturing this like a horrible macbook spaghetti monster Cthulhu tentacle dongle you know they made the argument bikers on this one I would come the whole USB stance I would kind kind of be okay with that less so than the iphone thing just cuz everyone's making that move and there they are definitely being a little bit bold with going all USBC because that is the future that we that's where everything's gonna go fine I get it was their general rushing it there's a while people are screaming for 4k screwing from magsafe screaming 40 LED and they're not delivering any Welbeck say if they have it they killed it right that's what I yeah it's very funny me that in Apple's quest to kill off all the wires they ended up creating even more wires yes I think I like Steven I think Steven shanklin wrote that piece just like that you should you're gonna end up with an even more complicated set of dongles and wires macbook is hashtag macbook is the new hydro cut off one head three take it away seaboard doggles three more dong to lose take it to see a Photoshop of Hercules of the Hydra logo now but it's all dongle all right I'm gonna go work on that let's get out of here that could happen yeah it was a fun chat thank you everybody for joining us and thank you for joining some riffing on yes that's all it's like sigh of a keynote I just hey i'm just happy it's done they're both over with yeah Microsoft and Apple back-to-back guys take advice don't do don't do that again not that good for us is not good for you thank you for anyone you can you get the whole you invite the comparisons you get really exhausted journalists trying to like pound through all these different stories Thank You Sean good for anyone I'm getting that I'm gonna get macbook as a new Hydra trending all right there we go all right let's get out of here alright guys if you liked everything you saw or heard here check us out on cnet our podcasts also available on itunes tunein stitcher SoundCloud feedburner and google play music of course you can 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