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from the cnet studios in san francisco california is the apple byte extra crunchy podcast with the creator of the I thong Brian Tom oh yeah you know you like that thumbs down south on from the towns of town town tongue what's up everybody applewhite extra crunchy here doing it every week from San Francisco thank you for that nice you know what I am the creator of the iphone people that near the creator of the eyes people that have no idea what that is might want to check in Apple is doing a live event on monday marks the 21st which we know about we do our live coverage here at seen it at 9am we take your live phone calls we take your tweets it's a really engaging interactive experience much like this show but that's where the I thong was first announced and released and showcase oh yeah it was it was it was pretty impressive let me tell you all right we are here episode 30 of the apple byte extra crunchy thank you so much everyone for coming in and listening a lot of people are starting to watch us live as well as actually watching the video version which we just decided to put up as a complementary piece yeah it was just kind of a thing that we were like we can do this easily so why not just give it to them video and audio again this show is all about you and you'll see that call us at one eight hundred 61 62 63 eight that is our hotline you can just call us with your name where you're from your questions your comments your thoughts reflections and yes we accept bad apples as well yes because we know there's a whole lot of them try to keep your call around 30 seconds you'll be part of the show and you can find us on tunein soundcloud youtube live stream we're just come over here San Francisco maybe we'll let you in the studio maybe holler alright let's get into it we want to set things up the March twenty first event is a few days away for people that listen to this after March 21st I'm sorry you're screwed but like we have expected 9.7 inch ipad pro iphone SE bringing back the 4-inch phone but when we talk about the 9.7 inch ipad pro according to 9to5 mac it is expected the starting base price of this new ipad will start at five ninety-nine making it the most expensive 9.7 inch iPad Apple is released at least as a base price come in a 32 gig and 128 gig capacities the ipad air 2 is expected to still stick around although the inventory levels of that are gonna probably dwindle and it will most likely go away but that will be your 499 iPad I don't know if Apple's gonna drop the price on that maybe even 4 49 it might you think they might show a little love that hopefully hopefully cuz that's that's a very expensive starting price I mean after you get applecare LOL hacks you're looking at close to eight hundred dollar what about a case what about days and no other 45th we know this one is supposed to support the Apple pencil oh alright yeah baby that's one thousand dollars you better come you better come with it if you're gonna get the 9.7 inch ipad pro but we know it'll have a smart connector so that you can use a stocky with the Apple keyboard smart keyboard that will be sized appropriately for this 9.7 inch ipad it also have stereo speakers and a better camera than the ipad pro we've talked about this but the new news from this story is that 599 is expected to be the starting price point it's a little a little high for a product that people I again for 32 gigs to that's not much again nothing tells me that this is gonna move the needle for Apple in any way shape or form when it comes to iPad platform now they're just it's like almost just like maintaining what they have now you know just you know minor updates you know they were there will be thank you for pointing that out in the periscope is there will be LTE options so that's typically I think another additional 129 yeah on top of the base price plus the monthly you know your monthly service visit 32 gigs is a good starting base but again these art at these are tablets it should it should be 32 I 16 in the past has been the starting point if you want to argue that going from 16 to 32 and the tech advancements is a one hundred dollar price point it's worth it that's fine you can it be dope if they put in 64 oh yeah but right now I'm on Apple iOS devices 128 gigs is the highest storage you've seen people been requesting why doesn't Apple give me 256 my phone I don't think we'll see 256 in a phone time soon so don't don't hold don't don't hold on to that idea the other product that we expect to see the iphone s ii now reports are saying that the design is pretty much identical to the iphone 5s the main difference right people have been trying to figure out how grooved or how sharper these edges be 95 mac is saying that it'll pretty much be the same design except that the edges which were had that mirror finish on it before oh yeah which i actually thought was really tight it looks nice yeah they will be a doler finish which will prevent it from getting scratched up cuz that pretty much was what allowed that thing to be the most scratched up phone of all time yeah totally when we solve all times look horrible when I was done with it it looked like poo poo I poo poo um also it will include a 12 megapixel camera 4k video we've talked about that a picture of the packaging that is rumored to have leaked out it's confirmed and this is i think is i'm gonna talk about this in a second it confirms a 16 gig based storage also will have NFC for Apple pay but look Apple needs to wake up you are telling me that you are still packing 16 gigs on a phone that has a 4k camera with no expandable storage a for a full if you're loading your phones with 4k cameras moving forward you cannot have a base storage capacity of 16 gigs no I know that's what I do that it if you shoot one video then you're done so I'm just telling Apple right now fine you might think it's cute and fancy to do it with this iphone SE or five SE or whatever it is wack but change that when you do the iphone 7 give us a minimum of 32 i would say 64 because really now these days were with memory storage it's not that much but apple's gonna make their margins so let's say let's start at 32 let's just just hope that apple can at least do that if they release an iphone 7 with a 16 gig base storage you know who's throwing out bad apple baby many bad apples haha how you like them a little help them with apples on the stage destroyed that that would that that would just be stupid um hands-on videos have been shown off to kind of reveal what are these rumored cases they fit closely but not perfect to the 5s but again some of these leak cases are actually we don't know how official they are so just totally be just just a mock-up case yeah yeah just a mock-up case so we'll see what we'll see what happens nine if I Mac says that the at least from what I recall that reporter that the case it should actually still work with the new se so that we'll find out again Monday March the 21st then announcements start at ten a.m. we'll have our live coverage pre-show post show at nine a.m. pacific time alright this is also cool for those of you who purchased any Apple TV and have been asking me on Twitter where where's the Apple events app I don't see it apple recently just threw out their apple event to live stream app so it's now available in the TV OS app store it is free you can watch the event on your TV which hey you could do though yeah it's it's nice you could do that with the previous Apple TV but people were kind of getting a little nervous they're like uh what but I would have to say that you want to listen to our coverage first yeah our coverage is so much more funny bomb or pretty dope we just have more fun than they do it's like you and I talking in the shooting it and then two ladies you're lucky you're gonna be here Scott style be on the pitch you know we tried it I know it sounds silly but the best way I describe it to people it's like the pre-show of the super bowl and the post-show the super bowl but much better yeah I don't know we do a great brian Tong does a great play by play you know it's funny mean i just read the blog yes we read the blog which show pictures you see Apple used to let us use the live stream of the show I always thought was the most effective when we do our talkie-talkie then we could show the live stream so people won't leave and then we do our talkie-talkie after well what what ends up happening is there live stream messes up or people can't find it when they all come to us so we welcome it we welcome it we welcome you with open arms all right um also in addition to this Apple TV nugget I love this one did you did you see the sonic the hedgehog yay remastered now available on the Apple TV the Apple TV so it's an app you can use the apple remote um I'm curious how well it works because the requirement is that all games have to use the apple remote but you know you what am I gonna slide my finger back foot how accurate is Sonic the Hedgehog Sega Genesis remember when they um man someone's gonna correct me but they used this term to advertise it that the Sega Genesis was the best console because i had like high-speed blast processing that was their name for like to show that our consoles really fast it just a made-up marketing term but sonic the hedgehog really started it all um a reportedly Sonic 2 and Sonic CD will be available later this month that's awesome check out Sega yes Sonic the Hedgehog was known as like the fastest video game at the time right yeah high-speed blast process I serious someone look it up someone look it up and can be like dude that's what it was called I swear I kid you know I didn't look it up before this cool this popped up in my mind all right just a little update to the Apple versus the FBI story a report by the New York Times talk to they said about a half dozen of apple's engineers and they say according to the report that if the FBI wins its court fight which hasn't yet to be decided and they're requesting to force Apple to help in unlocking their iPhones the FBI may run into another roadblock Apple's engineers the employees are already discussed seen what they will do if ordered by law enforcement authorities to help some of them say they won't do the work while others may even quit their high paying jobs rather than undermine the security of the software they've created this is according to more than half a dozen current and former apple employees some of their top engineers that specifically designed i OS have been around the team since the ipod these are veterans that know the in and outs one of them is specific to the bug fixes and can identify them they would leave which the report also claims would make it hard for them to even kind of build this new what they're referring internally to as a as a government iOS yeah loved gulped govt TOS well they just want just stick with FBI OS it's so much fat oh yeah it is that is good FBI oh you like that yeah I do like that I made I made it up but of course everyone else made it up but I did come up with it yeah so all these guys are like security you know programmers and their jobs are very high in demand so they would be easy for them just to leave and go get hired somewhere else look yeah a lot of them are saying you know it's very interesting the article is that it's fundamentally offensive to their core principles and think about as an engineer in security whose job your whole life has been like to make sure this is secure and then someone tells you to not make it secure anymore it's it's almost fundamentally thinking backwards like you just can't wrap your head around here like what and then they also said it would take up to 10 engineers about a month or so to do this that's a long time for for employees to be working on a project you know so I don't know fundamentally look yeah i like everyone makes different analogies they said one of the analogies in the article was saying it would be like asking a doctor to administer a lethal injection which is a little extreme yeah i would like to compare it more like asking me to put a black streak in my blonde stripe that way that is how important this FBI Apple cases that would ruin the integrity of the blonde streak therefore diluting my brand and my hair you see you should do that for halloween next year make your all your hair blonde and then a black streak I'd be amazing oh yeah higher OS fire OS anyways this is just a interesting article good read on the New York Times how Apple internal has already talked about how they would resist if the court order goes in favor of the FBI yeah my favorite part about this article is that it refers to Tim Cook is Timothy D cook his full name which I think we should just start to referring him ltd cook Timofey Timothy D Cook said today we can calm Timmy d-md timid day today also there's a full transcript of Tim ed cooks interview with Time magazine it's a long long article there there aren't really any major nugget two parts from it other than the fact that you know he calls it like a nightmare it's a struggle Apple didn't come up with this decision lightly there were multiple people on all levels in the room that made this decision and why he won't back down again it's a long stretch a long story you but go ahead read if you want you can check out time magazine's website I think they have the full transcript there as well for you to was Steve Jobs ever on time magazine's I know the movie had a big deal but he was on it right he was on it so originally when Apple announced the first I believe it was the first it was the mac and they they had a generic persons like the computer with the person of the year yeah yeah the computer was the personal year and it was supposed to be him yeah and he just went H just went bananas so whenever he was alive today and he saw Tim Timothy D cook on that cover he's been on time be oh yeah new jobs has been on sometimes I remember him there was an article when the when the first imac came out that kind of had the neck he was on there is it was the inspired by a sunflower the actual design you know that was that mac that I'm talking about the imac it was an imac and i had old screen and a neck and then like a semi-circle base he also i believe was on time to when he passed he was also on time i would guess if I had to guess how many times Steve Jobs had been on time magazine it's probably been on it three or four times in his life someone can call in and correct me on that but I think if I like visualize what what I've seen probably three or four times he's been on if he's been in a few magazines the adjustable neck imac was pretty pimp oh just a few well let's just pull up like every single one I know that's quite a lot so check out the Time magazine article in other news around apple and this one is around the actual cloud a report from VentureBeat says Apple has been planning to build its own cloud they're calling it project McQueen now this is this is the motivation behind it for the past several months Apple's been working on this again project McQueen to really try to become more reliant on their own data centers and infrastructure because right now it's really talked about much but might like many services that are on the web there they pay amazon web services or micros microsoft's azure cloud service to provide that and deliver the content to us that we need but Apple hasn't been happy with little column amazon i don't want to calm AWS just amazon's web services because it hasn't been able to load their photos and videos on to users iCloud iOS devices as fast as they want they feel like it takes too long so one of the solutions would be to build their own infrastructure like many other companies have a I believe dropbox is one of them that got off of using third-party web services and then built their own Instagram i do feel i Instagram did that did this as well originally they were on some of these third-party services but as you grown as you scale up there's a point where they can't support them as much this would also be great for apple's music are and TV subscription service quite honestly yeah so fine apple looking to develop this their own they say that if they did build their own infrastructure it would cost wise they'd be able to pretty much cover the cost for it to run in three years after that and the conversation kind of came up between a Microsoft employee and an apple employee after they talked about how Apple's growth would prevent Microsoft from continuing to support them at that same level so apples I maybe we should build out our own so Apple is looking this is not a guarantee that it's happening there have been talks that have been plans but there's nothing specific there has been no no actual buildings have been put in a place for this project McQueen but Apple clout Apple runs a lot of services on iCloud some work better than others mm-hmm it's all right could be better amazon the Amazon Web Services have problems to occasionally like I think during the last major hurricane in New York they went out for a while or some some there were some disruptions and stuff they can't go down yeah sometimes like AG hour yeah and everyone just goes crazy when that does but uh that's what Apple's thinking but even kind of something you always hear the term I you can read the tea leaves see the future yeah I actually saw aimed you know that I'm catching it with Harry Potter right now I've never seen the actual movies oh really so I got to number three and it just appropriate that there's like a scene where it was a prisoner of azkaban and he's reading the tea leaves in the cup do you remember that part not okay it doesn't matter it's really rough it but Google just scored a huge win against Amazon Apple is now a customer with Google they've reportedly signed a contract that's according to Business Insider worth between 500 I'm sorry excuse me worth between 400 million and six hundred million dollars to use Google's cloud platform taking that business away from amazon it's not clear if this is an annual price or a total value of the contract but it is known that this money has been taken away directly from what they would have normally spent solely on amazon web services wow so thick Apple is definitely doing some things transitioning their services on the clock on cloud platforms or maybe it's not a sexiest stuff but this is kind of some of that stuff behind the scenes yeah so uh should we get to voicemails yeah let's let's uh let's do that let's do that please got some voicemails today from some of our fans remember everybody all listening in 1 800 61 62 63 eight is the number you can call and you guys continue to flood us with more and more we you did say what people call in just say like they love the show yeah we've got a big college people saying we love the show we're like you we appreciate but we just we aren't gonna play that that's like it's like isn't it such an ego show to talk about how many people love your show I know we just get hundreds like hundreds of emails thousands almost you know took me like all after to call all it's just so much anyways we appreciate the love guys and gals um but yeah let's go to jump into our phone calls okay this is bernard from chicago from outside Chicago hello Brian Steven this is bernard outside of chicago um i absolutely enjoy you guys a show I have two questions maybe you guys can help me my first question is this what is the direction of Apple when it comes to visually impaired tech for visually impaired people it seems like Apple is coming out with all these phones are no buttons um and all that kind of stuff so I just wanting it their stance is still the same as it used to be you know business as usual when Steve Jobs was alive or testing has changed um I'll have a second question my bad okay yeah that's that's dude don't worry you don't have to say sorry to me it's not like you're running the entire show in switching cameras anime playing audio clips and messing with audio levels at the same time yeah you had a second question but it cut off so my bad too bad all right i believe it was it Bernard right was Bernard I guess what up B so I would say and this is not a bias but historically Apple has arguably been the phone with the best accessibility options for a touchscreen phone they haven't done anything really drastically different from that standpoint but they have you know some of the features they have beyond just being able to change the contrast being able to zoom into the screen with three fingers so you can see things a lot more easily there's also this feature called switch control access where think of it wherever you wanted to touch kind of a square appears and appears on each app and kind of goes down the line and then you can basically say when you want it to select that so if you went to the settings you could actually essentially do it without having to really press too much they have extensive accessibility controls I'm obviously not the best expert but I would say most most people have told me that they do have the best accessibility features it just comes down to which ones you use specifically but I haven't heard of them making any drastic moves I think even from the past iOS 82 iOS 9 there weren't many changes to that but it doesn't mean that they're slacking on it so yeah I have a friend who makes his text like huge on a screen you can like make your text really big and bold and stand out and then also last week it's not totally related but last week we had a call from a guy who said he uses the iPad to see things that you know because he's not he doesn't have very good eyesight so he the iPad just to see and read books oh I don't know that's kind of unrelated but it's interesting i would also input in a guard domoi on periscope did remind me that what I was talking about with a switch control feature you can actually like like turn your head left or right to some make selections oh really based on that switch control i was talking about so just imagine looking at your home screen and the box is going around each app and it's time it's going like dunk don't know you can turn your head one way to select it and then turn her and then just kind of like shake your head the other way to go back to the home home button it's so it's there there's but there's a variety of different things like that so it's a lot of just check it out just just check it out okay next call is Sonny from Louisiana hey guys my name is Sonny I'm from Louisiana my question for you is this now that Apple has announced is coming out with the iphone SE do you think that iOS 9.4 is going to include an update for the iowa arms art to the iphone 5s thanks guys love the show just recently started watching on YouTube made up I love you yes I love watching on YouTube thank you uh you know the update to iOS the iPhone 5s is basically let's see how many generations at five s6 success it'll it'll still get some support I don't a lot of times you may not necessarily get all the same features from a standpoint of just from hardware alone the iphone SE is going to have Apple pay on it you're not going to be able to do that the iphone SE is most likely going to have the hey Siri feature I don't did my phones okay I'm on my phone is that off because there's an m9 processor in the SE that is not going to be available in the iphone 5s most likely the software will work but you just won't be getting any major features that are supporting it sometimes though i would say whenever phone is around that three to four year range although Apple has improved that it's not always the best thing to just do the update you kind of want to wait it out and see what people are saying to see if it is really working for them or not so cool cool all right we got one more call from Shamar in hotlanta here we go hey what's going on guys was gonna be chillin what's going on btz this is you boys Shamar from Atlanta hey oh I'd have a bad apple and it has to do with what I've seen as far as with the sony playstation view I'm a little upset because I bought you know i bought the apple TV the new application when it came out you know and I know that the live broadcasting service was available at that time but now seeing with sony has done I'm like what is the problem you know I think apples level of hubris here is this is ridiculous Sony managed to actually make a comparable package that if my particular company wasn't already providing a good service because I used to be a core cutter I would I will flock to this this is the this is great and I'm just a man i guess i'm at a loss while Apple could not secure the deals for their live broadcast service and you know I don't know what specific features that they were going to offer her this only is not but this this makes me almost wish that I hadn't upgraded the pucks it just that's all I just had to get it off my chest it was just like a knee-jerk reaction to seeing it I'm like you got all these good pricing tiers a robust set of channels better sling TV and I'm like dude this is isn't there's no reason why Apple could have done this so that's all enjoy show guys thanks thanks Jamar are boorish Marsh MLK champ from jamel 2k depending on what what platform you're on a hundred percent agree have been saying this since the beginning of the year if Apple does not get their TV subscription service in place by the end of year it'll be a huge fail they've got to Sony's plan starts at 29 99 it's always been really good but if you look at it it has all of the core stations you basically want everything from like ESPN TBS TNT CNN is like it has an e that's all this other it has AMC it has everything it literally has a core i think it's around like 50 the base model plan is around 50 channels it goes up to like 75 and then like or 70 and then it goes up to 100 channels but it goes like from 2999 to like let me see here real quick here um goes from 29 yeah so 2999 for the 55 channels 3499 for 70 + channels 4499 400 + channels and you can also do some additional add-ons that is cheap dude that is Rudy dollars or thirty dollars for a legitimate TV streaming service that's awesome and I think one of apples things is they want to be able to incorporate some sort of DVR functionality but right the the network's like no we're gonna we're gonna give that to cable comes I think that's one of those things but again other companies have done it we've said this before in the past on our keynotes sling TV hazards although not as robust as PlayStation view now sony has it and Apple has nothing that's just the landscapes for a bad apple right that was with Shemar wanted a bad out how he deserves to get a bad about them there you go there you go somewhere tell me how you feel alright um you guys and gals thanks so much for calling in again we appreciate it but we wanted to kind of end this show on a happy I'll have a positive note right yes so Apple has their TV commercials and we do now know officially based on this commercial that cookie monster and Siri can understand each other so with that we're gonna sign off on the show right real quick we're glad you want to see what Cookie Monster is about to do is what I exactly what I do when I'm cooking you literally do nothing tell Siri what I need when I need done the time set the timer music for the oven yeah so we'll be here next week we'll break down everything from the apple keynote but again for those of you listening you can tune in to cnet.com and on our big page you'll be able to watch our live coverage starting at nine a.m. pacific time but until then she be like Cookie Monster send it away yeah all right a cookie monster do this alright alright see you guys next we all push hey Siri set timer for 14 minutes okay 14 minutes and Counting waiting for cookies hey Siri play me waiting playlist thank you exactly what I am so hungry for cookie say I'm DJ just to spend them with you hey Siri check the timer nears the timer all it would would make wishes