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from the top of the CBS interactive building in San Francisco and located somewhere in some apartment in Los Angeles California is your host Bryan Tong hey Beecham from LA to the bay yo what's up man West Coast is the best Coast West Coast West Coast what's up everybody welcome to the Applewhite extra crunchy we are doing this remotely Stephen um I do miss your smell your face Oh your touch I didn't know it i guess i didn't know i had a smell no yours not smell how about this your scent that is that better my uh what do they call him my pheromones miss my tournament yeah so hey everybody welcome to the apple byte extra crunchy episode 15 we're doing this remotely we're doing this back and forth and you know we wanted to just jump right into it there's so much stuff going on but again if you guys want to be a part of this show all you have to do is call us and leave a voicemail 1 800 61 62 63 eight is the number tell us your name where you're from and jump right into your question or your comment we will play them on the show and to prove that we will play other people's comments on the show later on today right yes we have quite a bit of voicemails so thanks for calling us guys yeah we love it we love it okay let's jump in till we know that it is ipad pro week the ipad pro went on sale online on wednesday people are able to pick some of them up in person you know I've been talking about the ipad pro for years now like i really wish i could be there with Beecham just like a rub it against i want to touch it I haven't I haven't even felt wondered held one yet you can't even see this but right now I'm just doing like ipad feel my face no you can't people listening they can't even see this ipad feel much just looks like a giant iphone oh look it look how big this is dude look it I can I can't put this in my pocket the thing is I gotta say though um right now just my initial thoughts I don't have all the accessories for it we'll talk about that in a second but you know as a larger iPad in a media consumption device this thing is awesome like on the plane the first thing I like set it up do next to me was like whoa what he's like is that a big iPad that he couldn't stop looking at I was reading comics it finally feels great when you you know no matter what everyone says Oh media content is so much more immersive yeah because it's a bigger screen but did you guys just settle in and the flight and just watch a film together no I I did play some videos so I could show it to him and he was like you know it's one of those like the bromance like totally showing off to a guy and the other guys like oh this is awesome and you guys were vibing and then like it just it's totally geeky right but he was digging it I would say just initial impressions this speakers on this or awesome i can actually kind of i'm not saying its work the money to pay a thousand dollars if you just want better speakers but you know you can use this as a standalone i was like playing a justin bieber's latest album purpose oh my i can't believe i outed myself yes said that like not the only one man i was just talking about it too it's a good album people don't do it don't get it twisted and don't knock it unless you tried it but the best way I could describe it and Stephens a music guy so you know he'll he'll be able to get his take but it's like pop music meets EDM meets hip hop production and the sound is fresh and clean and there's at least ten tracks on that album that are just sick yeah it's like I'm I'm not I'm always gonna be an open-minded person about anything so you know if i like it i'm just gonna try it i don't even care everyone people be like I'll Bieber for reals i'm like no it's it's good okay i stopped i'm brian tongues justin bieber review oh yeah we time up yeah yeah yeah so again really immersive if you like what the ipad does and you want on a bigger screen you're going to love this now the other thing about it though right apple promoted really the biggest differentiator about it was that pencil and that smart keyboard pad but dumb dumbs at apple i pre-ordered it right away online but now the pre-orders are delayed out four to five weeks oh my gosh okay you might not even get it in time for christmas dude not only that beach him even on the first day love sale for the ipad pro they didn't even have them in stores that is a bummer so the key differentiating product that makes this unique to itself they don't have either of them how stupid is that that is very dumb man every has to wait for the pieces of their iPad to show up that is so oh my god i can what do you think that could be what do you think that could be Beecham I don't know that could be I'm not prepared with the sound effect but I think that is a horrible horrible really bad apple it's just a disgusting Apple ah i would give you the fighter games i was searched it to give you time we should just have a resident screamer in the podcast i'm just gonna like get a bunch of screams together for the next show so um you know overall though I think as Apple is promoting it as a laptop replacement it's not there yet I don't think it it it just won't be but I'm gonna give it a go and just use that smart keyboard case when it comes in for a week straight and see how I feel about that I'm gonna force myself to UM the pencils cool I got a bunch of creative apps on here I'm not one who's gonna be drawing all the time but I think this thing has the biggest potential as a creative device as long as the apps yet developed for it properly so uh it's it's honestly really cool though it's it's pretty badass it's it it's a head turner only because it's so damn big right yeah yeah you know they should make like a comic book cut like a comic book colouring book where you have to color in your own comics oh that would be awesome doing that on your head I would totally do that honestly I would totally do that um just others also to follow up with the ipad pro just some other tidbits about it they've run benchmarks on this ARS technica ram geekbench benchmarks and the results have shown this thing is a monster okay the ipad pros a 9 x processor to dual-core chip outperforms the current 12 inch retina macbook with an intel core m processor it outperforms a laptop okay not only that if that's just raw power but if you're talking about graphics performance the actual graphics performance of the ipad pro outperforms 2015 15 inch retina MacBook Pros and lower so it does a 15-inch MacBook Pro it out does a 13-inch retina MacBook Pro all the 2015 models it out does the surface pro it out does the iPads all ipads and graphics it's a beast this thing has so much power it looks beautiful I know my i have a macbook pro for work and the screen just looks amazing I have to always look at pictures on that so yeah I'm very excited to see what it looks like in an ipad pro super super nice um some other tidbits I came out because we can't test it but reviewers have said the actual stylus or the sorry oh my gosh I just said it the pencil it's not us it's not the stylus the pencil when you like have it on a table and you roll if you just like have it sitting there it's weighted so that it ends up rolling into place so that the word pencil shows up on top oh wow that's funny man that is so stupid that of everything they're like yell brandy you know that's comes from like a marketing person no one else totally I was like damn it fine I'll do this crap he's like why do I have to do this let's not put an eraser on it let's eat us oh my god you have to bleep let's let it roll man this shows the terrain I can't believe I just said that they had meetings about that they're like we have to figure out how this pen will always show the logo and then some guys came up with an idea and they produced it yeah it's pretty bad also I don't know if you have this video pulled up or not but did you see the surface pro vs ipad pro response I did I did um here we go I got a ricer this is crazy of course they're not using the same exact application so it may not necessarily be completely accurate but they're both using their notes app and you can actually see the ipad pro doing these like smooth quick lines and the surface pro the lines like are delayed they're a little more jaggi it's yeah that they are noticeable when he did that really fast that was very very noticeable how fast the ipad pro is that's cool yeah so glee you know I want to see this side by side with actually some apps yeah like the create like the creative you know drawing app something like um procreate or Adobe draw I want people to do that same test but you know initially it it looks it was how responsive at least the ipad pro pen is which is pencil is which is pretty cool I'm sorry I'm not used to we've been talking about it as a pencil and now that it's finally out I'm not used to calling it a pencil no it doesn't make sense to be called a pencil has to be a pen dude it's a stylist yeah it's a stylist but throughout the the rubber tip it actually I got a use one in store and when you do like brush strokes when you turn it on the side the actual stroke does get wider so I mean it's cool it is super cool and did some cool water color stuff I was like all right this is pretty neat so I'm the ipad pro also tim cook you know he's hyping this up and talking it up he says he believes and this is again coming from the CEO of Apple so just know where he's coming from he says that the ipad pro will replace notebooks and desktops yeah i don't know about that um that's what he thinks i mean sure possibly i don't know I just when I trying to get some work done I just need like a laptop with a keyboard in front of me you know I can't really get anything done on an iPad I mean I get what he's trying to say it's all from your perspective and if that's what he wants to believe it's fine but there are certain things that I even just using this now I have I want and have to use a laptop to do them to get them done yeah for sure like that's just that's just the bottom line so even you know Excel documents word processing his his quote was like here we go I think if you're looking at a pc why would you buy a pc anymore no really why would you buy one yes the ipad pro is a replacement for a notebook or desktop for many many people they will start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else other than their phones do you believe this statement to be true or false Stephen Beecham balls balls oh absolutely we'll find out what happens and how this all shakes out now since we're talking about we kind of talked about this on the Apple by actual video show I thought the story is fun because we're talking about products everyone's buying you know the apple ipad pro 128 gig is actually sold out in stores right now so they don't have pencils they don't have smart keyboard cases and they're out of a hundred twenty eight gig ipad pros but if you had a guest did you see this what's the lowest rated Apple product in Apple's online store what do you think it is looking at it right now and I'm actually I'm pretty surprised who are suffice yeah i mean i was thinking it was gonna be like an ipod or something but yeah it's a hora you know some pair of headphones but it is the three-foot lightning cable i totally agree though i know how useful is that was only three feet well three feet is short yeah it's pretty short but also i was surprised that i looked up even apples headphones and ear pods and they were rated higher than the lightning cables like I've had two lightning cables pretty much like the Brugh burr breaks at right at the corner and then the wires get exposed and they just pretty much deteriorate pretty quickly and so I get why because their stuff just isn't that durable right the other product it was actually tied so like that the lightning cable USB to USB lightning cable and then also the magsafe power adapter they both had over 1,000 one-star reviews oh yeah i mean my mind for my my work laptop is frayed every every Apple cable i have is frayed and it's what i'm saying i have to put little pieces of tape around it and this morning I know it's bragging about my headphones lasting for a long time but this morning the right side of my headphones just stopped working what after like two two and a half years just out of nowhere oh my gosh but the head but the microphone still work so I can still talk through the microphone but I just can't hear in 11 year so get it you need you need to give a you need to give a one-star rating for that thing man that's that's what it deserves oh well well no actually I'm giving I'm giving the headphones a high rating because they last me for over two years just don't morning just a warning a tire that's told yeah yeah so I have to give that a good good review a good review ok I'm also following up on just things happening around in the Apple space this is kind of a rumbling that has been going on but according to The Wall Street Journal apple and banks are in talks on a mobile person-to-person payment service mmm i'm trying to think what I haven't heard of anything like this before um venmo venmo paypal so i actually heard it was a Bridget Carey story that Apple is in talks with venmo I don't know if they're no talks with venmo directly I mean that that could be I know they're talking to the banks that you know basically back these fight these financial institutions that back this up I it would be weird for them here's why I don't think Apple would even get involved with venmo venmo is owned by PayPal PayPal makes their money off of payments I don't see how it benefits paypal to get scooped up by Apple and les appels giving them lots and lots of money you know if they want venmo to be to support apple pay like as one of the paint you know as kind of act like the bank then that makes sense if they're partnering it that way but I don't see Apple taking over venmo or replacing it right yeah yeah and right now people are using venmo people are using their mobile banking apps to exchange money I think Apple pages wants to be a part of that but quite honestly they're pretty late to the race I don't see people all of a sudden you know I phones were prevalent people are using Apple pay once in a while I don't know I don't know if they'd actually start doing it I found the headline from Bridget and it is there's a question mark there Apple talking to venmo ? so you know it's a big guy I think that's a click bait headline on it seriously cuz there's it it's like oh well Apple it's like really what they're trying to say is Apple going to get into the mobile payments game but instead they're like Apple to acquire venmo it's like come on come on that's that's clickbait man you're all it worked we'll see ya anyways Apple did acquire a patent um it was granted to them by the US patent trade office for a transfer of electronic funds between electronic devices so that's why there's all this speculation there's all this rumbling around it it's going to happen it's it's not that hard for them to pull this off and make an agreement with the bank so we'll see I just don't see them being able to rise and really take over apple wants to be the wallet for everyone I thought Apple pay would actually be adopted a little more quick Lee it is being used but it's actually not being used as much as I saw as I thought it would be yeah it's very hit-or-miss like everyone I talked to you they say they go somewhere and there's an apple kiosk there to pay with your Apple pay and then nine times out of ten just doesn't work yeah the people working there like we don't know it doesn't work yet so so you know well we'll see how it all shakes out this okay here's another patent that I just wanted to put this in the show because I love the title of it you want me you want me read it for you sure okay so the story is that Apple has a new pan that was great published it has not been granted yet that would actually use electrodes to dry out wet iPhones like if you get moisture inside your iPhone it would actually be able to expel the water from the speaker and the microphone cavities by using electric charges and acoustics on the surface of like the internals to get that water out okay this is cool this is super you sound so crazy to me but here's what the name of the patent application is okay liquid expulsion from an orifice Wow the patent application is for liquid expulsion from an orifice that could be anything that could be so many things that's a very broad patent filing their course the pan has more details following that headline I just wanted to throw it out there but in reality i do think this would be a great thing the it might save your phone but Apple has you know how Apple has that like water detection sensor so they basically wouldn't try and get it when you try and get it repaired they're like oh dude you got water in it you have to pay this mount yeah that's redirect yeah that's not gonna change that right yeah I know it's not so it might help your phone but even if it helps it it doesn't mean that you're still you're still gonna have to pay that extra money if you took it in to get repaired anyways I know I want to hear electrodes and water I just feel like danger that sounds like dangerous danger Will Robinson danger totally but UK I've had the test where they test for water and they're like oh you got water in there sorry man you're like no I didn't on your contract I dude i did in and then you ache and then everyone makes the story I was in the shower with it a lot I just leave it on my sink and then they'll be like okay okay i'll give that I so if you guys face that problem if you directly dropped your entire phone in a pool just say you shower with it and the steam gets to it yeah I'm putting a bag of rice while you're at it right do that yes that helps okay some two quick things software updates let you guys know about the second TV OS beta is out and the third iOS and OS 10 betas are out for developers fine-tuning the current operating systems also Apple music for android now available in the Google Play Store Apple promised to make their music service available on Android uh when it launched but they didn't say when you can now go to the Google Play Store download the app and I do think this is good for families that are like mixed use families right not everyone in a family believe it or not oh yeah they don't all use Apple devices so it's cool you might even want to be like give the gift that keeps giving share your Apple music account with like a friend or a buddy who's on Android and maybe maybe they'll jump over to the dark side I don't know um this one is something that's close and dear to our heart in a movie update Steve Jobs the movie has been pulled from over 2,000 movie theaters which is shocking to me because it looks like the the previews just looked so good it looks like such a good movie and how you know I'm shocked that it's doing so poorly yeah it's a it was projected to check this out man it was projected to earn in a debut weekend 15 to 19 million dollars which is which is you know substantial at least for a movie like that but at this point in time it's earned only 16 million so it's pretty much hit that opening weekend range but like a month later audiences are not going to see it so they pulled it from over 2,000 screens and you can still go see it it's limited but you and I have agreed right we're gonna try and go see this movie this weekend right are did you were you able to gonna do work yes I have a babysitter tomorrow night nice going I'm AMC theater in emeryville anyone want to join me there if you're listening practice or the East Coast feel free I am also going to be watching it with my baby boo we're gonna go tomorrow or I think around two o'clock somewhere in the Greater Los Angeles area yeah so next week we'll have our our real review of movie I do want to let people know that know that a this movie unfortunately now shares the same fate as another really popular one that I personally wanted to see that has also been pulled over pulled out from over 2,000 theaters Jem and the Holograms I had no idea that movie even came out seriously that's how no there's no promotion for that movie whatsoever ok hold on I need a I have I have the trailer here ok this idea idea look this up this is how horrible ok this is an opening weekend movie ok after two weeks the movie pulled in 2.1 million dollars oh my gosh it averaged five hundred seventy dollars per screen good for 15th place in its opening weekend it's like 50 people per theater maybe dude how do you know me I don't even I don't even know why were we why do we need a gem in the Holograms reboot or a movie anyway I know the weird thing about is like kids today don't know who Jim is yeah and people who used to love Jim Lee cartoon are not gonna go to a movie theater to watch that I feel like Hollywood is just making movies for all the thirtysomethings now who like grew up in the 80s you know like oh here's this other movie that you might like so they're like they're like hey kids you guys aren't even watching TV or movies anyways you're watching your stuff on the internet so we're gonna peel to the older demographic yeah secure people still remember going to movie theaters so yes just officially Steve Jobs and Jem and the Holograms share the same fate so really it's a related story sad world okay um in a world that needs to get better and needs to do better and I'm glad that Apple addresses i wasn't i wanted to see how the story shook out before we put in the show but a lot of people might have seen a video from the Apple Store no Australia where an employee told for students exchange students but they were black teenagers that they needed to leave the apple store because actual employees in the store were concerned that they were gonna steal stuff there's an actual video online that was posted I don't know if we can discuss it and it's asking they got so hot yeah seriously had like the reason why I wanted to bring this up and bring this the light is first of all Apple address the issue in a great way obviously we know Apple's CEO Tim Cook is a gay CEO one of the few and he is out in the community everyone knows this so he of course probably cares about issues of discrimination he put out a statement that inclusion and diversity are among Apple's core values and pretty much we are open to everyone is a long letter into Apple the actual store manager on site after she heard what had happened found who the kids were went to the principal at their school and apologized and invited them back Apple sent out an official apology that said this does not represent their values which is a great move the students they weren't all up in arms after Apple made the apology they said that they felt that justice had been done because the store manager apologized to them they told their welcome there any time but to me I just want to bring this to light because sometimes people aren't night about this type of stuff happens every day right it happens all the time too much too much and it's like very frustrating sad and I'm glad though that Apple stepped up they handle this the right way and a store manager realize what was going on and they weren't blind to it and it's just a good lesson life don't pretend like this stuff doesn't happen be aware of it and don't let it happen again and so you know III I don't have a we don't have an apple pie or a kudos to Apple sound effect but I would give them a I'm gonna clap a round of applause that's a good way good way to handle it apples are you oh you're doing the golf clap I did the roundoff person oh I 10 round of applause okay so anyways um good on Apple for taking care of that Leo did great 135 is actually the one who brought it up to my attention on Twitter but I don't like to just jump into things and making an immediate assumption and I'm glad that the story came out and it was resolved so uh there you go good on Apple hey let's get the phone calls yeah all right let's do it and we have a few voicemails and we're going to start with this one hi this essential do not have died 17 will have a better like discipline may be at AMOLED or a better pixels per inch do I know this matter or not I might basically there are rumors and rumblings that your answer will be probably uh no I didn't throw the story because it's such a small rumor and speculation there's a lot of things that go out there but being chic whoa he's the KGI analyst guy that has broken a lot of stories in the past way early before anyone else but he reported last week that Apple is unlikely to adapt AMOLED displays for the next gen iphones in the free and in the foreseeable future but they still like their TFT LCD display tech it still is compatible with a 3d touch technology which to me is still huge potentially huge and I love 3d touch i actually miss it on my iPad pro but the quick answer is that according to this report and it's the only one and only claim is that it will not have an AMOLED display coming anytime soon so there you go alright and voicemail number two hello my name is Eric Taylor I'm from Detroit Michigan I just had a question about the Apple TV and why do you guys think there isn't a remote app with the Apple TV why wasn't one released you know along with it is it something that Apple didn't want to do or will they do in the future alright thanks and I enjoy you guys you have a google what's up Aaron from Detroit thanks for that I think that it addresses a big thing one of the Bugaboos that I set out right of the bat that I gave them a bad apples the fact that they didn't take the time to make their iOS remote app compatible and it just completely doesn't work with a new Apple TV now the reason or the thinking behind it that you know I came to is the fact that the touchpad remote on the appletv first is like a clickable button that you can slide your finger around and navigate it and there really is no equivalent on the on the iOS app they they like the idea that anywhere you press it would be treated like a bun and if there was one device that is that would work exactly analogous to the touch remote that's with the Apple TV it would really be the iphone success that has forced touch because you could slide your finger around it to swipe left and right but then also you could push the screen really hard to treat it like a click on the apple TV if they're holding out on us they should at least release it for the iphone 6s so you got the same experience they would have had to change the interface a little bit to make it compatible on current iOS devices without 3d touch but at the very least they should have done something and they didn't so um that's why I think that they didn't do it you know they oh they also kind of do this with itunes where they you know they don't build a remote right away for the latest itunes version and they'll build it later you know come out eventually but they do lag sometimes on building remotes you know remote apps for their products I think you know it's like not I just think at the end of the day it's not their top priority yeah so they just like a second look we'll see if people complain and then we'll let them know they're oh my you know what might be cool is if we build a remote for that like oh yeah okay let's do that yeah but that'd be a good idea all right next call I have eight minutes left on my battery on my laptop okay okay here we go hey my name is Peter in Arizona I don't wondering have they said anything about the Apple watch to is you can have more features are babes who talked about it oh come on that's too Apple watch to rumblings are already out we were gonna put this in the main rundown but we want to save it for your call Apple watch to development is reportedly underway and targeting the second or third quarter of 2016 according to a Chinese media source udn quanta computer is believed to be the company that will be the Apple watch manufacturer it's rumored to have still the same battery life but a slimmer form factor there were rumblings that a camera might be integrated into it that has not been confirmed but at least from what we know yeah it it would get me mad just from a standpoint of like I get it Apple upgrades devices every year typically I felt like the Apple watch should be something that gets upgraded every year and a half to two this would time it for around a year and a half time line but this the Apple watch still just doesn't do enough yeah it's like such a you know such a popular everyone was so excited about it too you'd think they'd put more time you know get another version out faster I'm just glad that you know the reality of the hype versus what it actually is it's really died down a lot and people are understanding oh it's cool i do like how it looks but i don't how about this a large majority is in line with me that says that's all right but i don't do much most people to use it to check the time and get text messages most people and they don't like seriously right that's what they do yeah i know what does fitness and health and there's some people that use that way but most people if you ask them what do you use your i watch apple watch for i have checked the time and I check messages and it looks pretty looks pretty on my wrist and I spent over six hundred dollars for that oh yeah oh yeah all right next next call whoops sorry everybody I have five is a Brian and Beecham this is jacob from the Los Angeles area I just had a question about the Apple TV so I have the 3rd gen apple TV I was considering upgrading proportion but my question was i'm not sure if i'll upgrade because I the thing I really like the most is the new remote so I was wondering if the new remote work on the older Apple TV thanks love you guys show by all right all things i have read and heard is that a negative your new apple touchpad remote will not work with the Apple TV from previous generations the funny thing is from what I know at least at this point I don't think they're doing it yet but I don't think they're selling replaceable remotes yet I could be wrong so someone has to correct me but I do know you can program older remotes to work with the new Apple TV so it works in that direction but the direction that he's looking for to take the new remote and go back to the ol Apple TV there's nothing that is that I've seen or heard thats document that it does work if people are listening and I'm completely wrong on this and you can correct me please let us know that's why this is a show that involves you guys and makes you a part of it but that's what I know up to this point okay is that a bad apple or is that a okay apple an apple it's it's a par for the course Apple that's like there I know by the new thing you idiot we don't want to go backwards compatible what does Apple ever actually done that like never so that that's just par for the course to me okay last call and Brian this is michael calling i had a question regarding the ipad pro so now for example the ipad mini 4 i have that one and i can't open up certain pages on like web browsers or online manasa do schoolwork or other things well the ipad pro be able to support those windows or stuff that i have to open up online I'm like I get these weird notifications they can't support screen resolutions or it's not supported by this device or whatever it is random online stuff like when I either school work or whatever I do yeah that's my question all right thanks okay so I don't know this one hundred percent for sure because i'm not sure what type of sites what type of site honey and what type of plugins there's need to be supported but i do know that the surface pro 4 because it's based off of a desktop operating system and a full desktop class browser it'll have a better chance being compatible with almost every kind of site pop-up plugin again whatever site you're trying to look at it has a higher chance to be more compatible to service pro then the ipad pro because of the nature of how it acts behaves and how it's built from the ground up ok so I'm so the ipad mini doesn't scale up a lot of web pages that what he's saying I don't even know exactly what the warning or alert or you know denial message he's getting is because I haven't seen it um I don't surf those sites now I'm messing with you man I'm messing with you but yeah ultimately you'll have the best chance of compatibility with the surface pro 4 because it is really can be a true desktop compatible device coordinates him cook Tim Cook says you'll never need it again though so um go right ahead on that ipad know I'd really haven't experienced that yet but that's that's what I my gut is telling me just based on what we know so I be tweet us a screenshot of the great the area getting exciting I love he's tweeting air you won't get you won't get busted for anything some people tweet a lot of stuff Beecham like I know I know would still want to see the letter X all up on that screen man Twitter's the wild wild west is it is um so there you go guys I think that's pretty much gonna do for today right that's it man awesome all right we're gonna wrap things up I turned the brightness down on my screen all the way to one far I squeezed out six more additional minutes I'm so happy we show but we will see you guys next time again if you guys want to call us and be a part of the show it's 1 800 61 62 63 8 that's the Apple by country crunchy I can't even talk beach I want to say bye to everybody goodbye everyone thanks for what listening and watching the apple byte extra crunchy with your host Bryan Tong we will see you next next Friday yes we'll be in the same room so it'll probably a little more connected and I won't cuss in the middle the show yes and I will just be getting back from the LA auto show so I can maybe tell some stories about that ice all right we'll see you guys soon you