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we are alive it is the Apple bide extra country podcast from the Giant Bomb podcast studio in San Francisco California it's the Apple by Dykstra country with your host mr. brian Tong what's up everybody welcome to the show episode 76 extra crunchy oh so munchy I'm broadcasting from a secret cavern a secret location somewhere in the Southern California area Beachum you're in the home base the mothership I'm in the Giant Bomb studio in San Francisco and next week actually the week after we moved back up to our regular studio we cannot wait man we have been in a makeshift situation for how long now at least what six months it feels like feels like six months yeah I'm gonna be like four or five maybe so people that have been watching they haven't seen the full breadth of what we can do on the show yeah we got graphics we got everything Hong Kong I think crazy so um again this is Applewhite extra crunchy it's the audio podcast a complimentary piece to our weekly five minute video show again the show though is all about you all latest news kind of new updates since we've last shot the recent show but call us we get tons of calls and we want you to be a part of it the number is 1 800 61 62 63 8 tell us your name where you're from your comments your good apples your bad apples or maybe help us out help out the other viewers that are part of this show or listeners to learn more I we always love it when you guys can either correct this or even tell us new things that we can give to the audience so again 1 800 616 268 it's all about all y'all so let's just jump into it first things first the new 10.5 inch iPad that has been rumored over and over it is expected to be announced at an apple event in early April we have seen in the past Apple events around that kind of that March timeframe but this new report is that we will see it sometime early in April that's according to our friends at digit times in addition to that this 10.5 inch iPad will be roughly the same size as the 9.7 inch iPad what makes it different is that it's going to gain that point eight inches of size of length of the screen why are you laughing later matters that matters it matter sighs mass size matters baby it'll be around the same form factor but you'll get point eight inches of screen size additional because the bezels are expected to be pushed all the way out to the sides making it a larger screen but around the same form factor which is nice the reports also say that we will see updates the 9.7 inch iPad the current 9.7 inch iPad pro and the twelve point nine inch iPad pro my baby my favorite one the 12.9 but again these updates most likely won't be big massive changes all indications point to that at least the 9.7 inch ipad pro will just be a minor upgrade over the current model so we're talking about a 10x8 the a 10x chip in the 9.7 inch iPad pro it'll give it a speed boost performance boost but there might that that might be all also if we're talking about the 12 point nine inch it better get a two-tone display that's what i want but Tim Cook in the earnings report outright said Apple is not working on anything like a hybrid OS he said he feels that the ipad is different than the mac than the mac line and that although the ipad pro line will do more he still thinks that the mac line will do a lot more there for everyone that is hoping for a hybrid OS like i'm hoping for anything that gives us some level of surface like functionality and integration we're not going to see it so bomberman it's just not going to be as feature rich it's going to be iOS still on a tablet and i can tell you right now that it still feels super limited they gotta do something quick because my kids they hate my macbook like they're like oh i don't like it i can't touch the screen they don't like it so I mean like the iPad oh we love the ipad they just use the ipad all day when it comes to my macbook they're like I want your other computer daddy is they don't like the macbook so that's something the Apple needs to think about you know I just think in their DNA what they've shown us is that they don't want to do that they aren't willing to do that and so I to me with they can't do that it feels like the iPad line specifically has almost reached a point where it can only do so much now if you're not going to update the OS there's no fool OS on it or even a hybrid OS and it's it's going to limit what it can do for someone like me I mean I'm a specific use case I'm not gonna say everyone should go out and buy a 12 point nine inch iPad but if you love reading comics and you want to drop that cheddar it's worth it drop the cheddar I you know what if you want to read comics on an iPad pro you can get a refurbished like entry level one flag 649 bucks just wait till the new ones come out the first gen will be way cheaper right yeah it's like you've got a full tab of that where magazines really look true to size comics look great uh you know I'm if I was a smart person I probably would have waited but i gotta get imax on games look really great too i mean there's a lot of awesome games on the ipad but um when you were talking about the new updates to the to the next ipad it was just kind of like bigger size slightly tiny bit bigger and a better chip that doesn't seem like a big selling point you know i mean so treat on them TT TT TT you want you know what you want t DS on your on your iPad pro totally I'll take that so again we'll see what happens but for people that are saying Oh Apple will eventually catch up I'm just the surface pro product has been out I feel like for at least three years now oh yeah ain't even four years sleep and it's gone to a point where now as the industry has evolved it can do so much more but it's like the iPad feels like it's in the in like in the past honestly just really does yeah yeah feels like it's stuck in the past yeah and so you know I've got my boy on periscope Wow monny saying iOS will catch up well if there was any time to catch up this would be the year but again Tim Cook said not a nots gonna have not going to happen so we'll see if you want to align when Apple's going to actually do this keynote early April is the indication if you look at Apple's headquarters they also have that Steve Jobs theater that really nice amphitheater it's still not even close to being done so my hunch is if they do any type of announcement it'll be in there um I know there they want to they said the last keynote was a their last one in that auditorium so maybe there's gonna speed what is it like fast-track the new Steve Jobs auditorium to get done in time so they can do this ipad announcement there we'll see we'll see be cool but April some people I know it's it's it used to be a bigger deal but you know we'll see about that ok so we've talked about iPads also in more ipad news according to fiscal analytics there they basically can't pull internet traffic data and see what activity is happening what's going on they were able to identify for new ipads that were spotting their analytics likely to be the new iPad pro devices that Apple is currently testing when Apple has the devices their model identifier is associated with it Fisk you saw iPad 71 72 73 and 74 the current iPad line identifier 'he's start as ipad six so clearly they're testing these fisco says they picked up about 40 devices that are being used with these new identifiers this is about the same number of devices they've seen typically about a month before apple launches a new product so that aligns as well with some sort of an ape release the other aspect that I found kind of interesting but it obviously makes sense is that these new iPads that were found or discovered we're not only running iOS 10.3 some of them were running iOS 11000 sneaky sneaky huh beachy cool so again everything's lining up that will see these in April but that's just a little a little bit of more meat for y'all to chew on about the iPads also apple continues to roll out there iOS and mac OS betas the 7th beta for both iOS 10.3 and Steven I'm just gonna let you say the 7th beta for our next guy who is he macos Sierra mas yeah TenPoint 12.4 the 7th betas of both of those have released to developers again the big feature in 10.3 is fine my ear pods we're also getting like a podcast app widget at least in the mac o TenPoint 12.4 beta the big new feature at least I will be coming out is night shift finally coming to the mac and a just on a random side note I like when people tweet me that they're talking to apple support and they actually call Mac OS like they outwardly accidentally call it ma close gonna dub I think we've really done our job yeah good job man good job man uh beach did you get a chance to see this recent apple commercial this called sticker fight I haven't actually I saw something scrolling past but I didn't go to click on it didn't look too interesting but is that an AR thing like an augmented reality thing no it's just that it's so I'm gonna have you pull it up it's this link that I put in the show it's there it's a video that's just outing their stickers pepper passages so they just kind of like God lost excited about stickers I'm just telling you there's something there's a nugget in there okay I'm trying I'm trying to get to something so if you can play the view for people that are watching a play about 20 seconds in there's a scene where there's a guy who slaps a caterpillar unlike some waffles okay okay now when we get to that or whether you time job I'm gonna tell parents right there look at it okay so if you pause it if you somehow pause it on that scene where the waffles are if you look to the left of the waffles there's a phone there's a phone but look at it very carefully I want you to tell me beach what color do you think that phone is it's like a matte white right does not look white yeah it's like a matte white color and it has like a weird camera lens on it too that's haven't seen that's an iphone 7 pro like to me sorry plus my brains all over the place that's an iphone 7 plus that is white if you look at the lens that's the dual lens and everyone's like oh maybe it's a silver one and it's um it's a reflection if you look at the top of that image there's a knife on that shot yes that's that's what silver looks like Oh totally yeah so the phone to me without a doubt that is a white phone I can't and even if it was a current iphone 7 that was silver like people are saying oh it might be the the edges of it the corners typically have these antennae lines and it also kind of has that iphone 4 look which does which goes along with the rumors that have been like it's going to look more like an iphone 4 it's kind of square you know so I'm just saying good good give a good observations here Brian jeez I'm I could I'm a starting I'm honestly I'm just starting up a rumor okay that's all we're really trying to go this is pretty amazing I have to screenshot this for the forehead line or our promotional image I'm just saying is that that is that the white iphone who knows it's but a take a look at that I'll if you guys and gals listening can check it out take a look at it and let us know what you think alright let's let's talk sponsor sponsor sponsor guess who's running the show whether you're a busy professional couple a large family that runs out of breakneck pace or someone who simply wants to start cooking more check it out hello fresh makes it easier tastier and healthier than ever to enjoy the experience of cooking new recipes and eating together at home from creating the recipes and planning the meals to grocery shopping and even delivering all the premeasured ingredients trust me it makes it easy hello fresh delivers right to your door so you can skip the trip hello fresh currently offers customers a classic box of veggie box or a family box customers can order three four or five different meals per week designed for either two or four people 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hello fresh bay thing total total Bay Bay Bay all right back to the show for you guys ready for this first signs of the next gen apple TV running TV OS 11 purportedly appears in developers logs this is according to the co-founder of theory games they have an iOS and TV iOS gaming company but they saw that an iOS or sorry at evo s11 device carrying the identifier apple TV 62 appeared in their usage logs the current apple TV identifier is 53 so obviously this is some sort of new hardware the IP address that this came from was within close proximity to Apple headquarters obviously Apple has not released any information about a new Apple TV yet but Bloomberg had reported earlier that a 4k model could come as early as this year a fork a model that should have happened last year a model that should have allowed us to stream or toss our 4k video from our phone to our TV set like at least like oh let's promote a 4k phone on your iPhone but you can't watch it anywhere except on your phone like dude mid come on Apple like that to me that was a no brainer but hey a year and a half later that's cool so either way um the 4k Apple TV that we're expecting to possibly see this year looks like at least new hardware for it has been spotted in the wild and uh we'll see how that all shakes out as well do you do you have a current Apple TV I don't have a roku and a chromecast i would i would be down with apple TV well i wanted i want people to call in and let us know really you know i think the apple TV product is an interesting one from a standpoint is it just hasn't delivered enough like if you're in the ecosystem you're all good but for our listeners Apple by nation if you guys and gals can call us let's talk about it 1 800 61 62 63 8 what is it really that you want to see from the apple TV is it is it actually just 4k I I think that they should remove the requirement to all games that are on the appletv have to work with the standard apple remote alright that's a requirement so that instantly limits the type of games are being developed for it that's a bummer like that's cut that's kind of lame and then the biggest letdown right no TV streaming service that should have been exclusive to the apple TV that's not happening either but what is it that you wish or want the apple TV to do that would actually make you buy it if you haven't already and then if everyone says yeah i already bought it okay fine well then that that kills the whole conversation right now so Apple TV talk to us let's let's let's hear what you got to say we're gonna jump over to the air pods and I thought this was actually really cool pretty interesting stuff coming out from the Apple camp if you go check out patently Apple Apple has been granted patents for an earbud design with biometric features including improved noise cancellation so we know the first gen I earpods I think super convenient love how they work wirelessly they have little to no functionality unless you use your phone to control them but if you don't care about how they look on you and if they actually figure here I think you're gonna love it and I would say most people that have ear pods really like them what do you think about that Beach have you think that's awesome I definitely want a pair but like i said before like they're just too expensive you know and if there's more functionality that's great they do kind of look silly but that's fine i'll put i get over it but you know a lot of people have been calling us also saying that we forget about the Apple watch you can control the air pods with your Apple watch too I mean control your phone and what's playing and stuff like that so we got a lot of calls about that yeah I mean I guess I forget about that cuz my Apple watches I never charged like look my Apple watch I I haven't charged it for around aha cuz it's more of a yeah but I mean that you know a lot of people called us and were like you didn't mention the Apple watch but a lot of people don't own it and that's just another thing you have to buy to control your air pods to control your phone so yeah like he's gonna do that yeah so I just want to acknowledge that people were talking about that but um I would love to have some sort of wireless earbuds because I'm tethered to my computer and my desk and that's a pain in the ass you know so something tells me you're gonna get air pods generation to somewhere sharper if they're under a hundred dollars possibly but I feel like 161 even like 120 is too expensive my field I mean does Apple really sell a product under a hundred dollars other than a headphone or a cabled after that's like 30 or 40 bucks they don't not so I guess so check this out if we talk about some of these patents that make it interesting one of the first patents shows how a follow along with me photo plethysmograph or PPG this is a sensor that could be added to an earbud that can track your biometrics so for example there's this part of your ear called the tragus it's this front side of your like kind of closer to your cheekbone and if you touch it it's that kind of little meaty part I'm gonna do a little human anatomy here right now that's your tragus right there okay so what the patent would show is that this sensor would be close to like the exterior surface of the earbud and most of the problems with the earbuds is that it doesn't make contact with an area that getting that is deep enough right you don't want to put sure there's air buds that go deep into your ear but that's not what everyone wants so their idea is to put the sensor that allows it at least on the surface to touch the tragus and that would allow you to collect some of that biometric data so good biometric day like a heartbeat we got ya our rate you know heart rate EKG temperature Oh it'd be like Oh your ears are hot hot ears so that's one of this that's one of the patents to put that sensor in that location right against your tragus I learned that today and I'm gonna teach you tragus what what is that beat sounds pretty good for little training and in between your ear that little thing that holds your pod can you show us your tragus right now sure sure sure there you go there you go big baby baby ding ding ding what do I win job I know you and respect it's come also another patent here we talked about the noise cancellation they're saying that they could arrange three microphones in a triangular configuration to improve the noise cancellation features for the air pods we know that they don't have any noise cancellation whatsoever so these are two patents specifically to the air pods or at least two ear buds but c'mon let's be honest these are going to be implemented hopefully into air pods but like all patents it doesn't mean that they're actually going to do it but it's what they're thinking they need to bring more features the air pods that's all I'm saying but I do think it's pretty badass first gen product I was I was lukewarm on them I still have to diss them for their functionality but they are very convenient like they're a really good product they're not a great product but they're really really really good they're just like almost there so for people that say I hate on Apple you're wrong wrong and people that have any life yeah love hate love hate love hate people that haven't used them are the ones that criticized on the most I'm like have you ever tried them that I know like yeah yeah if they do they if they sound anything like you know like regular air pod ear pods and I'm I'm happy because those are great it's like them they sound much like them yeah cuz they sound great like I have no complaints with the quality they sound just like them alright um let's we're not going to bore you too much but let's just fill through some real quick hits of iphone rumors and whatnot because come on in we always have to talk about the iphone 8 6 months ahead of time according to the Nikkei Asian review their reporting how Apple's plans to implement the rumored curved OLED display on the new iphone this is literally the report the curt display curves will be gentler than Samsung and offer no new functions so the gentler means like a little less not as severe right that wasn't me exactly that that's all you got gentler gentler curves on out display they also did say there will be no new functionality so some of the past Samsung products are like on the Samsung edge s7 edge you could actually you know there was some functionality that you could use to access contacts and things of that nature or shortcuts that there's going to be no functionality on the curved edge as well they just wanted to make that clear to us so yeah and then another follow up because Apple is ramped up for these new iPhones and the big talks about how they're going to be using OLED screens Apple is estimated to grab fourteen percent of OLED panel production in 2017 specifically for the iphone 8 where does that rank obviously they have their orders directly lined up with Samsung well Apple will be making fifteen percent of the total annual OLED production Samsung will get about fifty six percent of that and then you'll have other manufacturers again to remind you the only oled screen that we're expecting to see is in this kind of premium iphone 8 potential 5.8 inch phone well the other two will stay with their standard sizes and stick with that with LCD based screens cool fourteen percent seems like a small number it is there you know what it comes down to is there's not too many oled screen producers that's probably the biggest limiting factor you have all these other companies that might want to jump on the bandwagon you know to do more OLED stuff where they can't because even although apples locked up I think something like 75 million OLED displays at least for this year they have a future contracts which total 160 million Oh LED panels directly through samsung Wow so they're they're jumping all in and it just I'm just curious to see how many if they're really only putting this oled screen on a 5-point an inch iphone I think a lot of people just gonna buy it because it's the even though I don't want a five point eight inch phone I don't want what you're big so I'm complex if it's the iphone that has all the all the bells and whistles I'm gonna do it you gotta do it you're brian Tong you gotta should have the latest gonna have the latest apple stuff but i didn't buy an iphone 7 plus i didn't i refused well well that I let other people do their bouquet a bouquet effect cool cool um this one's actually really good applecare+ can now be purchased up to one year after buying an iphone so for a lot of you every time you buy an iPhone they're like oh would you like to buy applecare and then they you say no I don't want to I don't want to pay an extra hundred bucks I actually quite honestly buy applecare on everything I get just because it's helped me out into and then when I need to go into service I'm like look at my history I've always purchase applecare so they've kind of done a few things for me that maybe they normally wouldn't it's probably also because I slipped them a twenty-dollar bill but uh no i didn't but here you go before 60 days was the window of time you could buy applecare that extended your coverage for a phone but now you can do it up to a year this is only to the phone right now things like the ipad ipod touch and Apple watch you still can only purchase it within 60 days to get that extended coverage but which would extends the Commerce of two years total but yes is this something you can buy online like you can buy applecare online so like n so technically you can break your iPhone like day 5 of owning it and then be like oh I better go buy applecare real quick online go buy applecare and then take and get it fixed yes okay exactly but i think if i recall right when you know when you do any type of swap out for a phone or a screen repair there are fees associated with it like your true i know there was like a me like a thirty dollar fee or so when you break your screen but even if like let's say your phone uh Scott like nuked or something I think it's you know to replace the phone it's something like I know like around a hundred or a hundred fifty dollars to do any other type of damage replacement hmm so and then mow down for stuff they usually just do that for free like any software its user well yes they should but technically you only have like 90 days of complimentary support and a limited and a limited 1-year warranty gotcha like it's not a fool it's not full coverage so apple care for the most part basically gives you full coverage in again you will still pay some fees to get them something service but it's not like you have to replace the whole phone gotcha but again nothing on does not the extension is only applied the one-year extension only applies the iphone not the ipod touch not the ipad or apple watch stuff so okay let's wrap this bad boy up kind of like in a final story here apple one did you see this article little know i'm looking at it now though looks fun so an apple one is going up for auction in may this original the OG apple one right this is wise yak and steve jobs it's really the product that started the company it's going to be placed up for auction by a german auctioneer it is an actual functioning apple one it has all the manuals it has the original receipts it's it's not so and there's only supposedly allegedly in the world only eight of these that actually work right you'll have ones that all beat up that were in like someone's corner of their garage this is like this is like the dude who bought it and has bought every computer and saved every computer in the original packaging in hopes to get rich right that's awesome this dude is gonna get rich this is expected for this is almost the equivalent like edison's first telephone I feel like it's really like the Wright brothers first airplane I swear to god this is the equivalent of that dude that's that's funny let's let's get even more extreme let's get more extreme seriously it's like first car by Henry Ford yeah I'm its you're not kidding this is like a paradigm shift happening right here something it's expected to fetch over three hundred and twenty thousand dollars wow so i hope i hope to gotta just go straight to like a museum somewhere you know what i mean like it shouldn't be like some private collectors house used to be on display i feel it could be on maybe it's a rich person who buys it to put it on display and brag that they have it you know there's people like that i think that like basically rich guys who bragged that they're even more rich to have like a priceless work of art in their house but only like two people looking at it every day or something yeah let me give you a little perspective or we wrap up a last year a rare appleone celebration model so think of like kind of a limited version of this fetched eight hundred fifteen hundred thousand dollars in an auction 2014 working Apple one was auctioned for 365 thousand dollars and then one signed by Wozniak went for 671 thousand dollars that's pretty awesome that's that's pretty wild so there you go if you got the cash you want to be that rich dude who shows off in the museum go buy it yeah all right should we get to our phone calls let's do it again hell yeah and if you guys want to be a part of the show the phone number to call is 1 800 61 62 63 80 I got some music playing let me stop that ok here we go guys first call yes this is a nick from Alameda again okay I just want to let you guys know that there is another option to the home run HD and that's the tableau which runs about the same in cost but cool thing about tableau is does have DVR function what you do is you plug in any old hard drive that you may have lying around your house plug it into the the tableau unit and it streams to all your devices and to your main television via and Apple TV apps and also I go with directv now because DirecTV now has apps sign in for whole bunch of kit shows disney junior disney XD like that so it's worth looking into DirecTV now in tableau both connected via Apple TV cool love that so I I don't I think the only thing that Nick didn't clarifies if he was signing into disney chose for himself yeah that's that was my first question was like no no i mean i think i wanted to know is that that's what he's watching all the disney god what I'm trying to get at you watching Mickey's roadster racers by himself at home oh I don't even know that show exists bro what is that it's Mickey's roaster racers they drive rotors and race I mean you don't know you don't know about that show so you're saying it does exactly what the title is that exactly ya know what Nick somewhat that's awesome i love that he called and he's not the only one that called his like yo bro tableau yeah we had a bunch of him actually a bunch of people tableau check it out so I I did not get the tableau product but I do like the fact that you can just plug in a hard drive directly to it I know that with the home run HD they are getting DVR functionality but you would have to UM connect the hard drive as like a gnat storage but it sounds like with tableau you can just connect it directly to the unit um and then I looked online and I saw that the tableau has two tuners for their two hundred dollar price point but if you want for tuners so for people could be watching programming at different time different channels at the same time it's a three-hundred-dollar so it's a pretty cool thing so thank you everyone that called because that's what's all about educating us educating our other listener so I'm down with that I'm gonna check this out because i'm chillin y'all still shopping you know you know browse shopping like cut the cord ma'am cool okay next call ah let me get to it here we go yeah hey guys this is nate color from Dubai and United Arab Emirates I've got a quick question for you about the next for this yeah I guess the next 802 11 a Wi-Fi standard ad what's the likelihood of us seeing that in the next gen iphone good work but so here's here's what I think about 802 11 ad I think the biggest thing about it um if you guys read up on it it does have faster bandwidth throughput so you can get gigs of data shot through ad but the biggest obstacle about it is it's a really short short distance so it's not like you could be across your house and get 80 speeds like we even know with 802 11 c you can be i think if i'm right should I someone's going to beat me up for this I think it's around is it like a 20 to 30-foot like straight site to really get those higher faster speeds even when you're going through walls it it's just not going to be as effective well ad although it gives you those faster speeds it's a real short range access point so it's almost like you need to have it in your living room and be within like five to ten feet of it quite honestly it's not going to be something that can be used what can be widely used everywhere so I think that's going to be the biggest limitation of it we for an apple to implement that I think Apple has always been slower to adopt standards until they really become a thing although if you rewind Apple brought wireless internet before anyone was really pushing it that hard with the original AirPort base station that looked like that cool silver UFO oh yeah we pushed wireless internet before it was even a thing so but I just based on reading the limitations of AD I know it just doesn't seem like something that apple would be like all right we've got to put ad in here the other thing is right not only that you have to wait for everyone to jump on the standard with more routers it's just not very prevalent right now so my hunch is that we would not see it in the next iphone I could be wrong but just knowing how Apple thinks and how they have behaved historically I don't expect it but maybe maybe maybe not cool yeah I remember the first wireless device ever used was a Mac was like a real old-school macbook or something in like the early 2000s I was like what this is on the Internet it's not connected in anything let's brew okay let's go the next call ah here we go hey I was just wondering if you can answer this one question do you think apples decided to corner every bit of the market has eclipsed or desire to actually innovate right now Apple is just basically to help with Android and they really aren't creating your own or expanding your own ecosystem with a used to the just trying to attract same customer base any opinions on this thank you we got we got a smart we got a smart color right there okay young buck who's like um apples on innovative what are they doing now I would say this apples apples most innovative product last year quite honestly where the air pods the w1 chip was their most innovative product and i think that the w1 ship itself is going to be able to do a lot of things moving forward i know it's not like a computer i know it's not like an actual new device and I don't necessarily think we need new devices all the time but that was that is one of their kind of innovative tent poles of 2016 although it feels like wait that's all you got in yeah fine that's all they got but if you look at how Apple's operating now their customer base is so large it was all about trapping I i will use the word trap / keeping people in their ecosystem there's a lot of us including myself that when faced with certain decisions you choose to buy an Apple product knowing that it works with the ecosystem of everything else you buy sure and that's its biggest hold everyone is time out the iphone what was what's the thing that kept most people in the iphone world even when they want it to look at android the ecosystem the fact that the apps typically come out first sure its ease of use but you know it's tossing content from there to your apple TV blah blah blah all those little bells and whistles you get just by being in an ecosystem that makes a difference so they've kind of rested on those laurels they've built a huge base if you look at the iphone adoption rate it's maybe I phones aren't selling as much as they used to you know when you talk about a new iphone but I i think the iphone 8 will be you know and it has happened over the past two years each new iphone model has still been the top selling number of iphone units that they've done and i don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon they keep on hitting record iphone sales numbers um when i say that it slowed down different quarter it's um it isn't as big as it used to be because yes the market is maturing but if you look at the overall total of phones being sold over the life of the product there will be more iphone 8 sold at any other one so as a business person there they kind of they're innovating but a lot slower because they have the market and that's sometimes what happens to the big big machines yeah you definitely want to keep your fanbase happy definitely I I mean I just want I think I think what it is is they could do so much more but there's they're so spread thin now they have too many products I just don't think they know what they're thinking of focus to be like let's make this great product and said it's like I will have some guys here will have some guys on the Apple watch oh yeah we got this Apple TV there we got some guys on the mac oh yeah we took everyone off the mac pro team that's why you haven't seen in three plus years like there's they're doing too many things now we have three models of the iPhone coming out we have three models of the ipad coming out I mean come on yeah come on and there were stories similar to what you're saying about like the Apple car like we had a big team in Germany working on Apple cars and all of a sudden that's not happening so yeah it's quickly changing now we have a big group of people working on augmented reality glasses for Apple you know who knows where they're going man yeah so it remains to be seen and I think that sometimes what people mix up is that being innovative doesn't always mean you have to sell the most units of something so for example I think the surface pro is the best hybrid product out there it doesn't sell the most but it does that doesn't mean it's not innovative look at that remember that Microsoft Surface to do that that basically that tells you an imac that turns into art tablet look I don't even know anyone who has that yet yeah but as a proof of concept first gen just wait till Jen to gen 3 I think more people are gonna buy it is it gonna outsell the imac probably not but is it is the most innovative desktop we've seen in a long time yeah you know I do have like pro video people like asking me like advice for you know what should i do for editing and what should i do for a computer and I say imac and premier you know like still yeah I max has them that probably the best screen could get and you know so you can still say that they're building stuff for pro people you know we have one more call all right hey Brian hey Steven this jack from rain to Illinois I was gone a couple days ago I had a issue with my iPhone where throws up whenever I Terrell and I power back on and it froze on the apple logo so I had to take it in to simply mac which is a apple retail specialist and they had they pretty much restored my iphone as as if it was a new iphone thankfully I had almost backed up to iCloud so I didn't lose any of my information really I just had to go and reinstall my abs and stuff but I think Apple deserves a very rotten bad apple for not fixing this issue and hopefully they do pics it thanks love the show by we got someone throat it but here's the question beach like he was able to get all his apps and stuff back on it right yeah just sounds like a big pain in the ass though it is a pain in the ass but man it would have been a real bad apple if he couldn't even get that back so yeah if you lost everything then I'd be like hmm all right so I think that's gonna do for this week man that's it where r I don't are we gonna be in the new studio maybe the week after next week yeah the week after you know next week we still have one more week in the dungeon and then then we're back all right I like that okay again ladies and gentlemen boys and girls remember you guys can call us 1 800 61 62 63 aight thanks so much for hanging out listening to us that's gonna wrap it up for this week be safe be good to your friends and family and to your strangers for mr. Beecham and myself will see you next week peace you