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and on Wednesday August 23rd and don't you dare was episode 272 of the 359 podcast and holy crap it's been a busy day Ben Fox Ruben Roger Chang and Alfred Inge hello everyone Hey how we hanging in there guys for this late episode doing great I mean we just I know I just got back from stamps in the vent a few hours ago gas pumped yeah I've checked out the latest grants from Samsung and we're gonna mine you for a variety of yes I was play the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 expert today we will have just with Dylan tomorrow for even more QA but now try I got you know the full lowdown on the phone gonna check it out at the try it it's a it's a good phone yeah as usual if you have any questions leave them in the comment section I don't pick up the best and we'll get to them in three minutes and 59 seconds for um three two welcome to the 359 I'm Ben Fox Ruben I'm well Jay I'm Alper ding all right so today was a pretty big day in the world of phones Samsung came out with the Galaxy Note 8 hopefully a redemption to the note 7 which was an unrepentant disaster so Roger humor at the event today yep tell us a bit about it I'm curious like what was the field there like what was it was there a lot of enthusiasm and the crowd was there a lot of were there a lot of feelings you know when there's a lot of feelings people felt there's a lot of fun these two of course there were fire I think there were like the city sees like who's a safety violation thing alright yeah anyways but they weren't there because of the phone they were there because I know it was because it was at the historic Park Avenue Armory in the upper east side so I'll give you a feel of the vibe there was love energy a lot of exciting partly because they packed the room with a ton of note customers no no who are super jazzed about getting a note 8 finally right so yeah they look right off the bat I mean to their credit Samsung addressed the issue I mean they didn't really refer to the note 7 by name or anything but they talked about they had that long disappointment right they showed clips of note boilers who were disappointed were frustrated having to give the phone up having had to deal with this whole issue but they quickly spun it as well he's no he's no customers or they were disappointed back then but they're still sticking with Samsung Samsung was very much like thank you everyone thank you no customers for you know keeping this live you're the reason it's still going on this is from a marketing perspective I thought it was very effective yeah they did a good job mobile president DJ ko was surprising sincere he bowed a couple times what he said thank you it sound sincere about it no I feel like Samsung is genuinely obviously they're sorry the whole thing even happened my expectation going into it was they were gonna let the note 7 be in the rear view mirror right my Maricopa here that I was wrong about that and they really they really addressed it pretty head-on that was like the first thing they talked about yeah it was a media visibility apology I do respect all right so let's get to the technology yeah I feel like the note aid they played it safe a little bit and that's kind of expected because the note 7 was was a pretty big failure what are the big things that people are gonna be looking for to be excited about the phone is it the dual camera the s-pen yeah I would say the the dual camera is the big new feature you know basically they're just now the they're following iPhone and even LG intervene adding multiple cameras and the implementation is very similar to what the iPhone 7 plus is there's a standard wide wide angle lens and then there's more of a telescopic 2x zoom lens it allows you to do those portrait mode like photos right there the ones the bouquet effect blur in the background yeah I mean the one cool thing though that they did that tops what Apple has is it allows you to adjust the blurring effect like you could make it no subtle or could make it fully blurry in the back I mean and you can do it both before and after you shoot the photo which is kind of Awesome kind of like that I don't know if you guys remember there's a camera called nitro back in the day no one bought it but it it was but it was great no no it had a pioneer this technology that allows you to switch the focus of the of the switch the focal point of the photo even after you've taken oh yeah I remember that it was like a huge yeah it's a really weird thing no one ever bought it but the technology was really sound like that idea was I put my wife's mouth she mean it was like wow that's really that's the feature I would actually care about so is there like a big like whoa moment from this event that you had seen no yeah because it seemed like a lot of things while I was watching his here's the decks we showed this during the yeah here's the larger screen where they also kind of show this there's Bigsby I think they they pulled out all the stops of the galaxy si because I think they knew they needed a while everyone they need to sort of get people back in their good graces what the galaxy Si and I think they mean yeah they most of those innovations went into that phone and the note I mean the no date is really just it's a bigger phone it's got an S Pen and it's got the dual camera thing and that's basically it like it's not there aren't a huge amount of other breakthroughs there but you have to keep in mind that you know they're they're serving a fairly specific market of note customers and they know customers haven't had a good phone in two years right they haven't had a good note phone in two years because those note 7 customers lost their phone they end up getting an s7 or kept their note 5 so for them this is a huge huge upgrade right so the note 7 was already a very polished phone but they could get it so alright so your hands on after the event yep tell us what you thought I mean it's nice phone it's fairly expensive it's like 932 960 yeah yeah that's pretty pricey yeah yeah wait for that iPhone I know maybe if you have it and I hit four figures I say maybe if you had a Galaxy Note 7 though you're gonna get the phone for like nearly half off so that's true what you wrote about that yeah basically this is only through Samsung calm for now we're trying to find out carriers are also providing this but if you were a galaxy note 7 owner which about three million people were right you can get up to four hundred and twenty five dollars off by trading in your current phone cha-ching yep not bad I mean that's like half the phone pretty much should we all right I don't know how much time we went but I feel like it's more than three minutes and 59 seconds so I'm gonna call it a day if you want to read more about these stories we've got a ton about the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 coming out that's already on the site and coming soon so that's about it check us out Ben Fox Ruben Jim I'm Alfred aying thanks for listening alright so and that's the 932 $960 that counts for unlocked as well to connect 70 I believe unlocked will be straight for a map from Samsung right yeah yeah they announced the pricing a bit earlier today I don't think it passes 969 29 sorry you're right 929 I was if there lot of numbers the animal mixed up yeah 999 the highest I've seen is 960 from Verizon though I think is Verizon and Sprint okay boom sprint has the same price okay oh we should have mentioned this earlier in stores September 15 2015 yep they didn't say exactly when pre-orders would begin right August 24th they said a couple of tomorrow Oh at the event they just said in a few days which was really ambiguous pre-orders for the unlock phones start August 24th but they didn't say necessarily when that would happen and they also during the big speed presentation I was paying special attention because yeah you know I write about voices systems elide they really did try to emphasize the fact that like look we have a big speed button and it does something and work and it's actually useful yeah most most of the times people look at assistants and they don't do much though I have to admit the the demonstration that they showed was a cool like it was use but I like the idea that you could bundle together different commands for your phone like if you say goodnight you set your alarm clock it'll go - do not disturb and I'll switch to blue light all without you right thinking about it the thing that I like is is that there are so many voice assistants out now from so many different companies that there really is some there are these new features that are starting to crop up in other places that aren't just Alexa or artists I feel like that voice command futures taking like a big page out of like Tasker though where it'll like if you're in a certain area and they do like multiple commands like oh yeah yeah yeah that's exactly what I was thinking to say if this than that it's not something I might use necessarily on the frequent but it's still kind of a cool concept it's a good thing to copy but I'm just curious if you can custom them on your own like if I wanted to do good night and I wanted to play like a certain song yes I think they said and then if there's like a list of like things that you could do that it comes with already because like like with the Alexa there's like so many like skills that I don't know that it can do oh yeah I'd be interested if Samsung like provides a list like here's like the packaged like commands that we have for Bixby I mean don't you get the emails every week look what's new with Alexa here's some suggested new yeah why don't we take some questions we should take some questions first up mad Mike in the chat was asking why no stereo speakers oh that's really good question I mean I think basically they jammed in a giant screen with very little frame the front I mean they have a lot of components and I imagine speakers that I guess that was kind of low on the priority list area but there are speakers yeah but this is a headphone jack please forgive us we are human yeah it's a live show for now we couldn't we couldn't essential phone if I remember correctly USB type-c and you need a dongle does not have a headphone obviously some switching that's going on there is we all know the direction Apple is gone we're gonna find out who's on the right side of history eventually yeah I mean like the right side of history and my regard is you keep the headphone jack otherwise you're gonna be really really disappointed any time you take a flight and forget your dongle but no no that's true except but I didn't stop Apple from doing and people don't care they're courageous everybody knows why don't we take more questions Roger if it makes you feel any better sorry we have another podcasters congratulations to whoever's playing Super Mario Sunshine over at Giant Bomb games I know for a fact that that's what they're playing today awesome bye everybody Roger if it makes you feel any better yesterday screwed up the date oh yeah there's that too writable podcast everybody Lawrence in the chat says I heard I think we brushed on this briefly but maybe we want to revisit a real jerk I heard the people who once owned the note 7 get a discount on the note 8 does anybody know if that's true what was the price point again what was the discount you can get up to four hundred and twenty-five dollars by trading in your current phone you don't need to trade in your note seven right because you don't have you know seven or you're not supposed to just to be declare this is directly through Samsung comm and neither the carriers at least we're trying to confirm whether the carriers are doing something but do have their own deal they do have their own deals but a lot of them are just a program nothing so far set in stone for previous note 7 owners everything right and we're still trying to figure out from Samsung like how do you verify like you were previous notes have an owner like what's stopping me from just going like yeah I had a note 7 let me get this phone for like half off but yeah you can get up to $425 which is you know nearly half who you presumably would be registering these products on how though I mean I read you for my stance register your phone yeah you can and I mean I registered my yeah like I registered my refridgerator are you register it with Samsung calm or Samsung's you do that so like with your iPhone like we didn't buy it you register it was the iPhone you registered through I cloud okay so yeah you're registering your phone all right okay Lawrence asks well where do I have to go to get that discount yeah there pre-order page when it's available tomorrow and he we might be helping him achieve something that might not be so savory but if he bought it secondhand from a friend have to be a previous there's no I if you buy one now it's not like it's gonna be right like if you're what you couldn't buy one now yeah but if they're verifying it off of like registration stuff I'm sure there's like a date attached to it something right I'm sure they've found some way to track you because there's Samsung that's a big company so let's go right down the line and everybody give their their top take away from the presentation today what was your favorite feature that got highlighted and then we'll kind of cross-check it with some of the some of the fans in the chat but for me it was in fact that big big speak custom command what was it called again just nice commands they didn't give it quick command is that it awesome we all know what I'm talking about yeah apparently an idiot I thought that was neat again not something I'd use on the regular but it's something I had experiment with as I myself and getting into like the smart home the markets per se I've got an echo at home I would mess with something like that something that had like a tiered result kind of like a domino effect so our smart home team in Kentucky did show me that there is there are ways of doing this using home kid with your iPhone too so it's not like though the first ones to do it but I mean I think that's getting simpler and simpler so more folks can actually start utilizing these types of features I mean so I would say my favorite features the I mean the camera of course the the live focus is what they call it but yep just kind of nice is the screen off memo the idea that you pull your S Pen out and you don't the turn your phone on you can start jotting notes on your on the screen of your Note 8 you know what I might have to take it back that might be the best thing for me because if you guys know me I've always got Sharpie notes or yes I hand like I need to do this for sanity and you can afford I can eat you can pin the memo on that unlock on your lock screen exactly so you've got like a grocery list you got to-do list there it is I might have changed my mind I think that's yeah it works pretty well I mean I tried it and there's I was pre impressed but what if somebody steals your phone and leaves you like dick pics on there that's good that's why it's my favorite feature frankly if they gave me my phone back just to give me the dick I'll take the dick pic for my phone back small price to pay for not losing my $930 phone I can leave it on the table in the kitchen you go to the bathroom you come Chris Wellesley disagree with you about two dual cameras as well so shout out the Chris Wesley in the chair yeah yes oh he agrees yeah he was also excited about dual cameras I think a lot of people you know photography's become so ingrained in our day to day the fact that they're really embracing that and the feature of like that the modified focus in post kind of thing and that only became kind of prevalent a few years ago in major commercial or prosumer type cameras effect is in your pocket now that's pretty darn neat did you a recall during the beginning when they were showing off the camera like oh we've developed some sensors that'll help you take better photos in low light yeah those photos looked really cool they have because they have the two cameras and I think Apple makes kind of same are giving yeah but I'll believe it when I say the other thing that's kinda nice about those cameras both cameras have optical image stabilization like a mechanical one which is a first for any maker because I mean most have it on one lens but to have it on both its comparison when they did it with the video of the woman yeah really shaky I don't know if they shot it really shaky on the iPhone on purpose yeah I always feel like I don't know like that yeah they'd think they create scenarios that I think their phone their phone is optimized for what you don't do nighttime boat rides it just looks like they shot it like this we're just like how stable the sensor it's one of the features that I thought was cool that they kept referencing maybe this wasn't my favorite one from it but I did like how they made the s-pen just a little bit better that you could use it more for drawing yeah so I thought that was kind of cool and it's a little bit more sensitive there's a bit more it's a level pressure different pressures that it senses is a lot wider than it was before so it's feels a lot more like an actual pencil pen did you know about this pen up community yeah vaguely like Vicky called they keep tallying this social network of no you know no artists what's the call pen pal no welcome to Penn up the war show anyways ever did you have a favorite feature yeah it was the memo thing that you like I love too is there a finite amount like the running 100 100 100 okay and they said 100 sheets what if you just drew one end and then just kept extending it through all 100 sheets like it's like super long sure all right just stop stop we're getting some great props from Orlando in the chat he says I'm so glad that the note line is back and the pen I missed a lot the cameras promising as well good job Samsung I think we can all kind of agree Samsung put on a pretty good show today yes we did always put on a big spectacle it was very boring I mean like the phone's cool it's like after the product is really cool there was no snowmen ship here I see I just agree I feel like the the floor which I saw a year ago yeah but still that led for was like amazing like the way that the phone kind of shimmered well the floor beneath the executive and then went back to the back feels like Davis well I guess the core of the phone is that like it's gonna be big it's gonna be frankly I thought the floor was more impressive than the phone cuz that's awesome that stage the stage I later on it's like it's tiny little like LED dots and then there's a plastic sheet over for protection but it yeah it works - like stimulate images it was really beautiful yeah I just say I appreciate their efficiency in their presentation after the last minutes yeah nice and clean I knew exactly do enough screwing around the the one DJ guy was a little awkward it's it profile pickers like a cringy thanks thanks bro the story story cool coming from the dude who has to record the whole darn thing that was nice thank you thank you Samsung yeah I thought it was gonna be much longer I like had to clear out my host gadget does a good job of keeping the more more efficient over the years I do appreciate that just the facts move on to the demo area amen to that it's gonna come more questions and before we call the day Pamela says do you think I should upgrade from an s8 plus and I am NOT a business user right now no not for not press it's only a plus that's like you just do you think that it's only for business users no but I think if you just bought like the most expensive possible phone before the know it came out like a few months yeah you know if you don't want to like specs wise it's not even that different no this is the same processor it is it like a tenth of an inch if you want like one yeah it's and the stylus would be the only real differentiating factor at that point and if you're not really into it or if you don't you're not used to using an S Pen it's not really worth it probably something yes Bixby & DEC's you would already right I recommend yeah so I would not I would not recommend operating like if you have a note 5 if you have a galaxy s7 yeah maybe and you want the bigger phone you want the stylus then yeah that that might be when you consider it but just if you just bought an essay it just doesn't seem to make sense to me if money isn't concern for you though that's true if you're like if you're loaded go for it yeah and my venmo is actually Roosevelt in the chat says this is a good strategy for for Samsung it was a very safe release I get through this with no hiccups and expect more on the note 9 a question from Anmol says what about the guys who pre-booked the phone but their orders were cancelled and purchased the s7 Plus as a replacement I'm assuming he's asking if he's still entitled to four like it note 7 yeah imagine did he get his money back when he like ordered it I don't know he's good yeah I think he's looking to see if he can still scoop up that discount you could make a case for it if you wanted to call Samsung up for sure but I don't think it's as clean as if you had a note 7 and had to return it yeah so elephant in the room before we wrap it up for the day Wow that price point is that a maker break that's definitely that's a break for me I'm not rich for me sure I think the note has always been more expected yeah traditionally a more expensive phone I think the last year's version started at something a bit more expensive if you're no fan this is worth the money this is like the latest and greatest in tech like a lot of people wanted to keep it for the stylists who I remember 107 recall happened most people are saying I can't do like bone things without a stylus seems ridiculous yeah but I mean but whatever I think this will also take some of the pain out of the potential that Apple might face or some of the blowback that because they're like third you know really iPhone 8 is supposed to be more than $1,000 maybe up to 1400 something like that right if you think about the way they take your memory and options like yeah it could step up to thirteen fourteen hundred dollars and I think yeah that's that's gonna be the new reality people gonna be forking over huge amounts of money for their phone not me so none of you none of you guys here have the up well who's holding a Samsung phone presently I am you are and you're not gonna make the upgrade or well this is from CNET's Enoch gave me this phone or CBS Interactive fair enough if they would want to give me the noh8 coming from the boss yep sorry buddy we're just wondering how you know the people in the chat are saying like what would you do if you were in my shoes I do have an s I have an s6 edge that is up for an upgrade and I'm considering this but I really want to wait for the pixel to I think a lot of people gonna do that if it was wait for the pixel to to see what happened as a follow-up everybody's asking when's that pixel coming out we have nothing if you kind of follow the calendar right it's gonna be it's like the eclipse you can kind of predict exactly exactly my guess is completely I guess is October we should actually make that it should be like a scenic graphic project somebody puts together like a calendar tracking like tarot card type prediction for tech releases yes some of them work pretty like brutes like clockwork like maybe a difference of a week or two like you could know that's coming soon really like that's our next event right we've got a phone next week which is a Berlin touch see some with some wearables and some yes yeah appliances laptops whatnot and then we'll probably see it will definitely see apples sometimes September the rumor is the 12th but we don't know yet but thought there was all that suspicion about getting delayed though I don't think that's why I think that's still gonna happen on time whether or not release day is what's up in the air yeah even then I think they're gonna like meet the release date but you'll probably have severe supply constraints so no one will be able to buy their phone sure sure which they'll play to their benefit yeah it's so popular that in ten seconds but Super Nintendo classic from yesterday's sold out 30 seconds on every single where the pre-orders sold out in 30 seconds yeah Nintendo's being jerks yeah I'm sorry I love nintendo but they're kind of being jerks right now I think it is a supply issue with Nintendo for sure yeah they knew better it is not a supply issue there's no way they're intentionally keeping the supply low yes they're basically treating these like this like the way that Nike treats Jordans yeah which it's like a coal except I don't I don't really care about Jordan so just bury me all right that's probably the perfect place ironically somehow I don't know both Jared's we've been hanging out for a long time a lot of people been following all day with a mr. Tong out in San Francisco yeah all of her fantastic coverage coming from the floor so let's let's shut up at Samsung for a while until tomorrow morning yeah we'll have a Jessica dual-core our actual Galaxy Note expert she'll be able to answer not only got to no questions but essential phone questions yes she'll be basically any phone okay phone question you wanna throw a shoe salesman hopefully she goes on now that we've teased her yeah last minute like no sorry that's sick do you want to do you want to call this dude yeah bring home Ben all right 3:59 is available on iTunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedburner and google play music and of course at sea dance Tina thanks everybody for watching what see the duck haha I'm gonna get the URL the whole time thanks everybody happy Samsung day you you