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good morning on Thursday March 30th we are in post mode show from the massive Samsung availing in sep assaut de tooth out 202 2000-2002 tuned all right I screwed up like now it's time for Roger Cheng to screw up his yes good morning everybody joining us is Ben Fox Rubin in shower tip can thanks for coming all the way from SF hear about them no she's a little drained from the post everybody's trained we are just a little bird you know where we're burnt out but we're still going strong we've got a lot more samsung coverage the next couple of days as well today as well as a full review coming I don't know when soon yeah we don't hesitate we don't have the unit yet but you'll be coming soon so um yeah as you can imagine this is gonna be all samsung samsung all week oh wait i know that's right and then sharp shards were here to answer all of your questions of the phone she went to Korea to check out the the battery of process as well as a phones getting made so if you have any questions about that pig them in the comments section usual Ryan will pick out the best and we will answer them in three minutes and 59 seconds all right from approximately 32 welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day on the crap you want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm then fax ribbon and with us is Samsung expert char tip Caen sharp so excited to be here I could tell char you actually went to create a few weeks ago to get a sneak peek of the galaxy s eight and how the batteries were tested what did you see out there yeah the first day I was in sooo on which is their headquarters and we got to see the new galaxy s eight they talked us through the features basically more in-depth than what we saw the event yesterday and then we took a helicopter to gumi which is one of the nine locations that they build devices mobile devices and walk through their new battery testing process their typical manufacturing process just to see what they're doing to make sure that this phone is going to be safe was the craziest thing you saw out there mm-hmm well this was something that was not supposed to happen that we saw we were looking at a compression test where this this like big bar pushes this battery against like another metal like plate on the ground and what's supposed to happen is the bar comes up and the batteries there and it's fine you know nothing exploded and I guess what happened was one of the technicians put a lot more pressure than you normally would so everybody just kind of stopped paying attention to it and I looked at the case you know after like 30 seconds couple minutes or something and notice the battery was smoking and then it turned like red-hot burst into flames and really yeah seriously and i'm just sitting there like I cannot believe this just happened like they're here to show us that this is not going to happen as like holy crap how did this happen okay so I despite that one instance which sounds horribly embarrassing for samsung did you leave that feeling like it like from a consumer perspective that you are a little bit more confident to like tell a family member or you yourself would be confident in buying like a like the next samsung phone well it's hard to say like I mean I saw their manufacturing four years ago almost four years ago so you can't say like I'm not a battery expert I don't you know so this stuff looks impressive to me but I don't know that you know so I talked to their battery advisors another X it's and you know what their battery advisor visors but who are you know professors at like Berkeley and Stanford and different places what they said was they basically samsung's gone above and beyond what they need to do in terms of testing these but it's expensive and so how long are they gonna keep doing this are they gonna keep doing this forever I mean they can't have any problems with this phone but who knows how much longer all right so what looks good let's get to the galaxy SI what are the biggest change is the biggest features that wowed you yeah i mean the biggest thing anyone's gonna notice is the screen right and also it's it's kind of a taller skinnier phone than pretty much any phone I've ever held there's essentially no bezels like the whole front is basically a screen there's no physical home button the fingerprint readers on the back right next to the camera which is we're going to annoy a lot of people I think they're special reservation recognition so people may never use the fingerprint except facial recognition is not secure so you can't use it for samsung pay you can't use it for you know any like business sort of things you need it for so then you'd have to do like iris scanner or fingerprints or pin code yeah what I love different security options yeah I think they had like six different options i think is they said something like that a lot i also wanted to bring a bigsby which is there the other big feature they're adding this phone I mean you had a chance to kind of try it out what are you what are your initial impressions I think for people Bixby's going to be an adjustment because it's not doing what you expected a digital assistant to do you're used to talking to like Siri or Google assistant and saying you know who was the 35th President of the United States right you know what's the weather tomorrow where do I hide a dead body those kind of things no really that you know that's a popular one but um but Bixby can't answer that Bixby is going to help you do things on your phone it's a new sort of interface for your phone which is good because anybody who's used the samsung phone knows there's like menus upon menus of menus which they've done a good job pairing those down but it still is hard to figure out how to do things so instead of having to go through all that you can just say Bixby turn on my mobile hotspot okay for more of these stories check out our special report it's mostly just char actually it's all Shara got cute big feature check it on CNN I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon I'm sure I tip caen thanks for listening all right taking a look in the chat our first question is coming from hang on our losses name a deal he's asking about the speakers on the essay did anybody get any experience with the actual loudspeakers and how do they stack up against the s7 i tried playing a movie there but hoes it's probably hard to tell us would that audience and i don't think that they were really emphasizing the speakers the same way Apple did with the iphone 7 yeah or even with Samsung with the tab s3 because I think they talked about you know they had the the Harman AKG right technology so no speaker or no speaker info but we do I mean they do throw in those hundred dollar yeah AG headphones that's a pretty sweet rolling I mean and I would assume in the future that they'll use more of Herman's audio technology and their devices like they own them now so why not make the best possible mmm speaker as possible Mike as well as a few others have been intrigued by the VR did anybody get to have any hands on with that uh yeah did you yeah I used it how was it uh well the game I used was I think shooting like bunnies so it was a little sad but is but it's the were they like realistic bunnies or cartoon but no I mean it was cartoon but that's a good thing yeah i mean the VR headset itself isn't really different from the previous ones they have a different it's a different color it's the you know the orchid gray which is the main color of the SATA controller but it's got the controller and the controller is pretty cool just you know for like shooting games or anything you know it works pretty smooth and you've have you tried the daydream controller know so i haven't it's it's nice it's nice and that it's basically you know trash promotion its got like a touchpad DM is there is the samsung one any different than like it's the same deal right I mean I should attract it tracks motion and yeah it's a touchpad basically they tried to recreate so like if you use the gear VR there's the touchpad that's on the side yeah that has like you know different like swype button presses they basically recreated that in the touch controller so it's not hard for you to go from using this to using the control and same for like anything getting games or anything so they don't have to like reprogram everything completely it to like change the like so now it's not like a double click as something whereas on here you just tap it it's the kind of like trying to consistent experience yeah and I never liked the control on the side of now it's too hard to find yeah find like what not a young boy yeah totally yeah Owen is asking so I saw the samsung had an iris scanner but also facial recognition is that true facial recognition are they just calling it because it's scanning your eyes no it's facial recognition like you can so with with the iris scanner you kind of have to line that up and you know look at it facial recognition works so fast like you can have your phone like sitting down here you know like you know like you'd normally hold the phone like if you're sitting it you know you don't have to line it up it really is facial recognition with the iris scanner you do have to line it up I think so I mean I didn't sure that you had to with the note 7 iris scanner okay they said they improved this iris scanner but I don't think it's you know it's still fast but I think facial recognition is faster it's just not as secure so now that we're down a home button do you think that this is all speculation of course do you think that that's going to hustle Apple down that alleyway and you think it's going to start yanking some of the iphone users back over to Samsung I mean I don't that people are always like oh Apple's dating Samsung users or Samsung's gaining Apple users I don't think so i think people have decided what operating system they want to be in purely iOS or your Android yeah so like if you didn't if you didn't want if you wanted the note 7 it had issues you went to the pixel or you went to something like that instead or you went to an older Samsung device right it wasn't that Apple suddenly gains you know is gonna gain you know steal away customers from Samsung like at least in developed markets people have kind of chosen it's not that easy to switch between Android and iOS you're used to one it's not you got your music you've got your yeah it's all one II costo de lis well 13 said no do you see Samsung getting an opportunity with the essay because it is a different design and they do have that I don't know the infinity edges yeah like that do you see this as a chance for them to I don't know build on their lead in some way or gain some sort of opportunity with this phone the thing for samsung is they usually are first with the hardware like Apple does not lead with hardware like their their end up I mean there's no there's no curved screens and Samsung devices for two years now yep and OLED for I mean it forever I don't even know how long they've had OLED those are things that people are talking about coming to the iphone so it's just what you get from Apple is a complete package because they control all of it the hardware the software the services that's all them what you're getting from Samsung is really good hardware that people really love you're getting android with kind of Samsung's flavor on top of it which a lot of people don't like so I don't think necessarily like I mean the Samsung hardware people really love it it is beautiful it's a really nice design like the essay is a really sleek looking phone whether it's going to tell people away from the iphone I don't know I mean that the this year's iPhone is supposed to be you know a huge huge advance is what people are saying so we'll have to see what Apple actually does but I mean I think Samsung is going to be able to hold its own at least I think you're right though in terms of people getting locked in like once you're an Android user like you are at this point especially those developed markets you've had android for many years we've had iOS for many years you're like you're not really gonna swim so it's really difficult and it's just too much of a pain for a lot of people ya know as the gains are from Samsung probably stealing from other Android I mean for them I think the bigger risk is not apple it's google and pixel right but not even Google and pixel it's huawei oh yes the chinese companies it's the homegrown indian companies who are making good phones that are really cheap as far as the android operating system goes how does that stack up to like standard Android as far as the Samsung experience of Android goes I mean so Samsung's had this kind of skin on top of it called TouchWiz and I don't know if they I mean they kind of start stopped playing that up as much um I think Samsung's really shown a lot more restraint than they did with maybe like the s4 best far they had all this like gimmicky software like I scrolling so the the screen would know based on your didn't work at all I mean they had all these features that nobody had a clue they even had and I think that's one thing that their new head of mobile DJ Co has really emphasized and their new head of software and services rd and john r e like they're trying to make services like samsung pay that people will actually use versus kind of just putting all this junk on the phone is making millions of other services yeah it was like boys yeah exactly it's like Google has this service but here's the Samsung flavor and it defaults to the Samsung I didn't know for the for this phone I saw Samsung browser there and I know there are some reasons for it but like like did we really need to have some browser so we're getting low on time but I love this question came up from lick my frog so with facial recognition if I cut my beard will it still open my phone now I kid you not just minutes ago I was outside the studio talking with dan ackerman joking about that point with the idea of running a test on that see we share appears do we know what any of those stipulations are as far as we facialed and we also were curious because some facial recognition can unlock if you see a photo of someone versus like the actual person that's why it's secure yeah I mean this is not secure this is convenience this is like this is convenience this is not a secure form of security and like I'm sure they're gonna keep advancing it and I'm sure you know in five years three years whatever it is it's gonna be secure and you'll be able to you know cuz maybe it'll be like iris plus facial whatever it'll be faster whatever they do right now it's just it's a convenience factor yeah but I don't know a beard I have no idea like that's something we'd have to test that pretty much you have to deal with no I let's start a girl here let's do let's start a Kickstarter to get then a facial tattoo and see if it holds up oh god why I'm by myself i would i might have to say yes to that if it's like a Mike Tyson one then I could get into it alright scrambling your wife would love that scrambling to get through some a couple more questions before I have to call the day our buddy ah who doesn't like the idea of a dedicated big speed button if someone doesn't use that then you've wasted hardware can we configure that button for anything else besides big speed unclear yeah I feel like for samsung it would be smart lighting them to letting people configure it however they want people to use digsby yeah so if they're going to basically let you ignore Bixby and just remove it what's the point of having Bixby or a button in the first place so I personally don't think they're going to say like after maybe six months when they realized that no one's used Bixby or if no one if no one uses Bixby who knows maybe they'll send an update that allows you to reconfigure the button this thing may come from like the back of the race and be the true Dark Horse winner and you know maybe can you serve echo there i mean just remember they're going to be updating this thing constantly yeah so out of the gate it doesn't do a lot but they're you know they're planning to come up with an update pretty early and then they'll incorporate the viv technology right so you know by the time we get to the note 8 this fall or whatever right um you know they probably will have improved it by the time we get to the galaxy s 9 you know it might be something that's actually really useful right knows yeah we're gonna see it in all their other products too did you when you were testing it out was it just like a quick press like you would do to the home button or a long press like you would do to you know yes sirree I don't think that I got to the well ok so the way it works with the button is like a walkie-talkie you have to hold it down well because otherwise you're gonna get like false you know yeah hey what's up Shara how's it going yeah yeah yeah no it's a it's a yeah it's a it's a it's like a walkie talkie and their point was people like I think there was like some study the only six percent of people who use voice assistants will actually talk to it in public like it's not just a number like I don't like talking to voices to Sarah and I don't like it talking to me and so with this you're holding it up to your face like you're actually talking on a phone which I don't know who you know smartphones everybody has your buds it's like that's yeah anyway so it's like you're talking on the phone you're holding the button it's like a walkie talkie so people could think you're just talking to your mom not talking to your digital is good if you're a lonely guy can to contain a telephone call it's baby can a big see you tonight can a big speed be the ripcord on a bad date I was like sure I got a samsung advertising campaign yeah mike mike is asking well he says he I Mike likes the idea of big speed but would like to see voice-activated rather than that but I do know it is a weak word okay yeah the face what they say bill that would be awesome and they just folks oh no is it he wouldn't like me when I'm angry bixby ya know what they said like a in San Francisco when I was in Korea they still weren't sure what it was gonna be in San Francisco they said it was just gonna be Bixby not like hi Bixby hey buck speak but knowing Samsung they could still change that in between now and when people actually have the device so theoretically it's just gonna be Bixby but we'll see clock is ticking until we see the season when they start naming like new parents are naming their kids because it's already happening in Brooklyn yeah oh yeah and just remind them so this felt launches in I believe us Korea and Canada in on April 21st and it for 28th in Europe parts of Asia and then like in may for a lot of the rest of the market so they have some time to work on Bixby let's try to squeeze in at least one more here at the other half hour mohammad mohammad asks dude why do you think the s8 stuck with four gigs of ram when they have the technology to bump into six like to see nine pro i think that Sam yeah cost samsung also was they were conscious of the issues with the note 7 and they didn't want to go all out in this phone like there's a lot they could have done they could have added thinking about it a second lens there's you know which they said they didn't do that because they don't see a value for it right now in other words it's expensive yeah like if you're adding another camera lens if you're adding more memory I mean they are the biggest memory maker in the world memory costs basically nothing at the point but but I have to imagine like at six gigs of RAM like are you really getting that much more speed than four gig like is it gonna be that much better especially on a phone exactly it's noticeable if you're doing like Photoshop exactly but for phone it's not that noticeable so like the return on investment there is fairly limited I mean beyond just being able say like I've got six gigs of RAM like for a real user that's not that tangible about it all right one last couple of recaps what colors are going to be available and what's the battery life so they have not said the battery life yet I think they're still doing tests on that but what they did say was so the capacity of this batteries a little bit smaller than the s7 edge but they used like software and some other tweaks so it should have better battery life than the s7 edge though they haven't told us exactly what they also used a kind of slightly different chemistry on the battery battery after the note 7 issues so that this is a longer lasting battery not like daily but over time there's an issue yes yeah so after like two years it's supposed to have ninety five percent of its charging capacity most phones are like 80 yeah or worse so that's a good thing your phone should theoretically last longer because I think most people upgrade because your battery I mean realistic your battery doesn't work sorry what was the other question or colors colors not in the US we're getting I believe black orchid grey and silver some of the other regions have like a pain yeah boom gold um so we're not getting those their region locked huh that's interesting yeah i mean but is i mean come on like it's expensive to manufacture five six different colors of a phone oh totally like two percent of people are buying blue okay you know if they find out like in the u.s. like people most you know ninety percent of people are gonna buy black silver right or you know gray why have a blue color I want Harry wink actually I was like her I was cast studio periwinkle I was a little surprised 18t didn't like snap up that blue one as an exclusive like well any natural that could happen in a couple months right we don't know that always happens when they come out with like an active version maybe it's gonna be like so jente who knows it won't be it won't be well I'll be somebody started a CG would not want to go with magenta for some it started like they're pink start a change.org petition to get new Samsung colors in the US what you do is you buy a case and that solves the problem that's true that's a way cheaper alternative on the chink in my armor yes alright that's a great place to stop yeah we got a torrent of questions till flooding in sorry everybody we can't get to everything we gotta roll we got to get out of here I've had enough samsung I'm tired of it I know this is all samsung week so thanks for all the questions we will ya thank you we will try to come back next week with non Samsung topic and I'm certain that we'll revisit Samsung a shirt and again and again if there really is the retainer right Shara I can come back anytime there you go and yeah if there really is the man will will devote some time next week to answer a couple overflow Samsung 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