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think i'll chat make fun of me for screwing up the audio feed nothing we're back hey get that part out I'll charm it out later okay drop it out later let's protect the live show boo cuz thanks for your patience start over related it's Tuesday it is it's April 18 good morning everyone hahaha second time around 00 to you clearly thank you we all for continuing to come to this podcast for reasons you don't even the site that many many errors okay and prompt that we I was so proud that we had a bit of a snag on episode 200 cuz you were like it's episode 200 oh crap we lost audio for four minutes we salvaged it hey all right so anyways we're gonna be talking about the galaxy s 8 review as well as a couple iphone rumors that popped up the last day just nervous you know just another day another samsung yeah yeah let's make it happen so let's do it as always if you have any questions leave in the comments section Brian will get to the get to them I'll try not to screw up trying to screw him up we will answer them in three minutes to 59 seconds and here we go for the recording in 32 welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the other craft course yes this is really going swimmingly today isn't it all right let me try that again three two one go welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the other crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon the reviews are in and experts are loving the samsung galaxy s 8 our own Jessica Delcourt calls it the most beautiful polish phone she's ever held it's fast it boasts a gorgeous screen and has external memory but there are some drawbacks the fingerprint sensor is awkwardly placed right next to the camera lens so get ready for smudge City and the big speed digital assistant is a no-show at launch so that that but the side bun on the phone will at least not much won't do anything yeah so so you can keep pressing it all you one it'll do something eventually eventually in a couple days maybe ah Ben what do you think is this enough to get you to switch from an iphone to a android thought so but frankly the fingerprint sensor situation I feel like even Samsung will admit that they shoehorned it in at the last minute when they realized that they couldn't put the fingerprint sensor underneath the screen itself yep so it sits at a very weird place Jessica mentions in her review that the Google pixel and I think the LG G six yep they put them lower down yet below the camera which makes it a lot easier and not just that if you're not looking at it yeah being the center of the phone as opposed to high up movers it's a more natural position when you're holding the phone you don't your finger doesn't really naturally reach up you know where the camera guys so having you the center feel like the pixel and it's shaped like a tic tac it just it seems awkward I do realize that there are like three other ways to unlock the phone right the pin there's the iris scan and this facial recognition so I do think that people are probably going to find different ways of like what's what's the best way for them to do an easy night Chancellor Samsung definitely talks about the face scanners as a good alternative but as Jessica no to the review you know it's more of a it's a less secure option so if you're really looking to kind of protect your phone that's not the best option ok so we have been talking about the fingerprint sensor which is this obvious negative but you did cram in a bunch of big positives about this phone oh yeah visually stunning jessica says high resolution screen great battery life super fast great for photos I mean there's a lot to like about this phone absolutely ups the ante for Apple later this year I mean this definitely does a good job of a wiping away the memory of the note 7 at this moment this is a salt own I mean assuming everything goes well with this launch it that there aren't only hiccups with the essay I mean this is a pretty solid phone yeah the other thing that I do like about what Jessica said was that look bixby isn't really baked quite yet it's it's not the best it's it's not really quite there yet but it's an ambitious idea and the hope is is that it's going to get there and she's willing to wait for it which I think makes a lot of sense absolutely next up Bloomberg is report that really sums up a lot of iphone rooms are out there but one of the more interesting revelations is the the number of prototypes that they experiment with in terms of the the curve right the idea that they initially wanted more dramatic curve and now they want now they're settling on a more moderate one largely because of suppliers issues with that um what do you think that change things yeah that's not I mean like if you're gonna have like a slight curve or a more dramatic curve right I don't really see that changing much there a lot of the reports that are out there I think we were just talking about the fingerprint sensor yeah the issue that Apple is also having some problems getting the fingerprint sensor to go under the cover glass maybe it's not coming this year maybe we're not quite a very end up getting a fingerprint sensor the back just like it's possible those are what the rumors are which is kind of a bummer you know these are these really beautiful bezel lyst screen and you know well call a sensor in the back Apple if you are gonna put your fingerprint sensor in the back please place it closer to the center of the phone sure right for more of these stories check us out on cnet I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin thanks for listening all right the chat is fire today absolute fire all right I love the idea is that we're getting pitched for alternatives to the fingerprint scanner so let's the first and foremost the fingerprint scanner is not a huge deal no no no it's kind of annoying that not it's a huge it's a little bit and it's very gonna be very quickly fixed I'm sure that this is gonna be the one thing as soon as like the s9 rolls around alike and well what you say quickly fix them for the person buying the essay like they're stuck with that thing for like two years that's not gonna change their mind it's not and if you're right though you're right though it's more of an annoyance it's something that people will probably find a workaround for and I don't think here I agree with I think it was a bit of a last-minute kind of thing yeah it's better to have it than to not because they're probably putting all their eggs in one basket with a retina scanner know yet so the thing of it is a tobacco day they talked about this with the note 7 with the when they first introduced that Irish scanner like they said it wasn't really great for unlocking because it's it's a little unnatural because it takes a split second longer it's sort of you gotta put your phone up to your face you know look at it yeah it's not it's not as fast as the fish scanner as the facial recognition scanner or the fingerprint sensor was a princess or so yet I think it's probably just felt that they needed an alternative you know I fact that it's all your people will just use the pen you know like and a lot of people will just default to doing 11 11 11 I'm not just horrible decision Android not give them options right although that is such a samsung way like we're encrypting this phone like five diff you have five different ways to do one thing which has really been the samsung way for software right like in terms of like taking a photo or like pulling up menus back in the day used to be like will give you three or four options we won't give you any clear directions on how use any of them but here the options try them customers love option I would just say that I think it's more dramatic that this fingerprint sensor is so annoying because I'm the rest of the phone is like it's kind of awesome like this is like photo the best looking phone that jessica has ever seen easily I looked at it it's remarkable in the krann is such a large created with small body so the Hat is like little annoying thing it's like it's almost like there's no but it's kind of like this weird tarnish my masterpiece right like it kind of like bugs you because it's like oh it's like a booger on the Mona Lisa that's poetic right there but yeah that's that's called the idea right like I'll bet it's perfect except this like a fly in your ice cream sundae there you go like rain on your wedding day we just keep all right let we lost our yes jumping into the chat yeah joshua lee grot said Lee got sorry I says the fingerprint scanner is great for lefties that's an interesting thought that's a good point Jessica tried that and she said she still couldn't get it but here maybe it works well I think you have large hands and I don't want making more large hands jokes from there but it might work better for you like I can imagine though for me I'm gonna like stretch my finger up a little to like say under so I left hand or right hand yeah I kind of get that point like it I guess is a little bit more natural but you still have to stretch your finger a little it's like it's also so that's why we'll Serrano suggest just use your middle finger oh oh that could we heard act good that's a possibility I don't know if you're holding your feel like this your middle finger just flipping off I really bunch of middle finger like it taking a selfie you middle of it looks out not up though that's the problem that's over the phone you can't let me ensure you flick off samsung every time you do I just like the innovators are here today ya know i like that i like the ideas he throw around izzard like people will figure out some of these things and yeah maybe the middle finger it's a great way to do it now expanding on that Pedro says we need some different types of unlocking features besides fingerprint scanner besides iris besides scotland by the cars drop of blood truck drop of blood i'm not suggesting a spade roads drop of Laki of yourself every time you want to access facebook basically i thought you could argue you already do that's true right physically though physically it just cuts I said I've got a lock my phone let me just prick my finger here Brent Brent Hugh says tongue print right I love it yeah in the middle of the phone now got make it up I thought of just unlocking it keys hold on a second I gotta I'm gonna take us I love our listeners love that I really really good idea I would love to see Johnny I've like do a video about like the thumb or the tongue scanner be like this is the most impressive tongues ganna you've ever seen a tabella video is good you don't drink orange juice before get like your phone hey maybe we should keep this in the back of our heads for next year's April Fool's episode we'll come up with the the new pitch for the alternative unlocking for ya we're gonna steal all of this guy's thanks really good oh yeah at the same time let's talk let's get serious for a second um Mike Shaw says the thing its print scanner is stupid the placement is stupid i'll be using the retina scanner i'd be curious to see how many people would prefer fingerprint vs retin and what your reasoning would be going facial shatter because the facial scanner is or facial standard method and come back or whole to pin if you can color I legalized phone a lot cuz I'm an idiot Bram well yeah that's terrible just calling out to the chat um no no I would yeah I would love to get comments like yeah and again like set him to our twitter account like just how else would you use it if you start using these different methods which works for you which were few best yeah absolutely um sidelining over the Bigsby max l asks is it possible to map the big speed button nope we have confirmed this the big sweet buns is just the big speed button you will not be able to customize it and other people were suspect possible thought it was possible nope it basically when it comes when you pull it out of the box on day one it is an inoperable bun you just sort of push it nothing happens so they really want to save that real estate for the big four big speed the fear is if Yuri map it to something else a camera or an app or Google assistant Google assistant which is also on the own but you will never animus Lee be favored by the chat over big spaeth which you can access which makes sense but transcends google says everything use time yeah I go girl assistant has been out in the market I had a track record it has a predecessor with what was a google now or whatever you want to call it or ok Google so oh sorry if anybody had a bat home I just I apologize for doing that what's a wop nevermind what's so watch Danny par good our good friend danny green the red screen issue how do we fix that yeah what does it deal with that I kind of saw that no last night I saw the headlines for i'm not sure what the fixes or what what that issues its look they don't they have a huge justement in there so you can drift it to blue but you're essentially forcing it into that it that this is a new one to me I don't even know if anyone's got any other input on this yeah give us the details I saw the headline but I did really we obviously don't have a samsung I in this office I'm gonna provide a very small bit of perspective on that in that if that's what people are complaining about with the essay then congratulations the samsung because that is such a less what the major issue yeah compared to your phones exploded yeah yeah oh yeah you know like people having to go to record though the phones aren't out yet so we don't really know till people start using them whether or not there are any issues there and there i don't i don't think there are a few trials floating around Alex in the chat says he's got a trial version um oh cool we'd love to get your first impressions of it yeah since us in this room we haven't we haven't held one yet outside of going to the events Ryan reversing hell the pre production version right have a final one I think jessica has one out in SF right there's one floating around here mysteriously but I don't know where it is really honest that Scotch probably got it hidden yes cuz that's how Scott rolls yeah right ah another one from hold on digging through the chat we got a the chat is lighting up and trying to get to everybody and thank you everyone for being so active today this is excellent uh svet asks do you think Samsung is saving their duo camera setup and screen fingerprint reader for the note 8 in order to distinguish it as a top-of-the-line flagship device that is a very very good and now I think that's a good theory is a great idea the dual camera yes I don't know but the fingerprint sensor I still think the fingerprint sensor may prove too difficult it's like apples having issues with it now that bonus their phone doesn't launch until October the note 7 comes out even earlier than that so I'm i'll be really impressive Samsung was able to pull off that fingerprint sensor under the glass with a mass market donate yeah yeah if it happens that's I mean kudos of em and if they're able to pull off an apple is it that's a huge win for them mm-hmm Joshua says he did not have the red screen issue um I'm thinking Jessica must not have either else we know her though that spades yeah I i I've seen how these things end up happening is if enough folks start complaining about it online that it really does start to turn into like a major issue so right well like like ben ben de gate which apple i think completely quashed as like this isn't really a thing right and they had to answer to it for like a week or two so it's possible same people just wasn't any gate that was a litigate was legit and coptic jokes for many many years mmm a what points out that when you put on a new rom then you'll be able to map the big speed button will of course yes you crack and hack anything you can do yes yes but it will be bringing my essay to yeah look let's face it people who do that i mean it's a fairly small minority of folks who could crack the rom like that i mean most people just want to buy their phone they expect their phone to work the way they wanted so too for someone to go through the extra hoop of hacking their phone to make the button workable I mean that's there are no it's not a great mainstream solution out the box not possible though no not possible um boy wow you guys are really lighting up the chat today this is really fun awesome yeah hang on Danny Green had another good one and I'm in four cuz I lost track of him our boy a good solid friend here good guy Danny Green I we didn't get to this in the podcast by the way but it is mentioned in like a lot of the rumor stories about OLED yeah becoming too what is it like the top of the line or the premium where is not idea was not a new rumor that's been out for a while right the fact that they were gonna adopt OLED which is already what Samsung has had yeah here I figured since we're talking so much about Samsung like any of the Samsung friends that are watching this I'm gonna you know this is your opportunity to take a crap on Apple because this is another one of those situations where Samsung has had OLED on their phones for years and years and it well also it helps that Samsung manufactures those displays right now providing them to apple right Apple have to source them and so and they've been really resistant to ola which has always been kind of disappointment to because Oh what does look fabulous yeah like the I mean looking at the screen on the essay the visuals really pop the colors pop like just the the contrast it's it's a gorgeous screen look at ya all right we got one from Danny yeah he's asking how accurate you think the retina scanner really will be and I think it's kind of a good segue into security because you've also had a few people time back in and say I don't lock my phone I don't have anything to hide well that's it all attached any kind of e-commerce you're asking for trouble yeah if he's got any saved passwords on anything counts to use on eBay or Amazon or whatever that's I mean we're not worried about your needs yes so someone in question basically somebody turn on your phone go to Amazon just start buying a whole bunch of stuff and yeah and send you there and you could just you know you could you could basically kill that by having a simple password I mean if you're logged into your Google Play Store write anything like that you could potentially be royally screw to somebody what's off with that yep it's all too easy I think that lock it down with a lot of these biometric scanners or biometric yeah scanners the hope is is to get people that don't use pins that don't use fingerprint sensor or whatever right to to use them because they're so convenient make it so dead simple that you you are going to be more likely to lock lock your phone because as we said there are all these problems with not locking your phone oh and also would say that the placement of fingerprint sensor is awkward because you guys haven't had a chance to really look at it but it's it's a really tall phone it's it's because the screen is so big they remove the bezels and all that but it is a really the first impression you guys like wow this thing is super tall and narrow and so that that kind of adds to the issue if you've got smaller hands and you're trying to like stretch your way up to top of the phone to hit the fingerprint sensor yeah so you're saying Donald Trump will be staying with the iphone trying to avoid that reference oh not getting political not small hands joke is funny I don't care what that's true inside a liberal as a fellow small hander I'm sympathetic to his cause let's uh maybe do one quick touch on iphone yeah real quick before we leave just because we got a minute left and we all know the galaxy SI it's going to be awesome let's speculate about somebody there's a discussion about whether they're going to rebrand it Michael Brown of all people are boy yeah do you think the new iphone is just going to be like rebranded as an apple phone that's a really great question they've been like a goat it when we talk to Apple we talk about Apple we don't talk about like the great new features are talking about how am I gonna try to hipster fly it yeah yeah let me look they've got Apple music they really slapped on Apple Apple watch right like yeah but the iphone is it's like a dream Lee well known yeah yeah it's possible with like their premium to your phone they might just name it Apple phone just to really distinguish it yeah was it the apple watch edition will be iphone edition or something the Apple phone iPhone edition what was no bows what was the really expensive Apple watch it wasn't it just apple watch edition was like the super expensive like like the 13 yeah twelve thousand dollar yeah yeah I don't remember but I that sounds right me what it was like yeah I feel like they're gonna do something like that with that that really nice anniversary edition mmm iphone yeah the one that didn't like rumors say won't come out with for a mother to after the iphone 7s yeah that's plus i like the idea of calling it the iphone x but at the same time if all it's going to do is provide the same stuff that the essay provides and you know yes eights out on the market already yeah but it like does a slightly better job with a fingerprint sensor then you know they'll keep they'll keep their current customers but it's maybe maybe it's not going to be as big of a splashes we were hoping yeah well they haven't been in a while yeah but the thing of it is with Apple is like even if they just get existing base to like roll over and upgrade mm-hmm that's a lot phones I know that is a lot of phones being sold right there you think we'll see a letter for K on Apple um no people 4k OLED we will see on one version of the iphone but 4k i don't know i think only sony and a handful of other guys do that it's talking about like a 4k screen yeah 4k displays yeah cuz I think they already do 4k video yeah right sure that I'm yeah yeah did the side remake sony xperia phones do 4k displays and like they look nice but they're not that the screens will smoke you can't lose tell ya yeah I don't get that one either when it justice it's bragging rights it is it's got 4k my course it's impressive yeah how valuable is it could we have put that energy elsewhere right but not given the lack of 4k content that's out there you you're not even getting you know that you're not maximizing that screen of the way coming like a freight train little ahead of the curve here yeah yeah an apple generally doesn't really try to go ahead of the curve right they like to refine existing technologies so they're dead simple for people to use yeah yeah I think they come out with a like an echo excuse me an echo speaker also in September there was a rumor about that like what was I like a year and a half ago yeah yeah well I'm yet I imagine it's something they're working on but who knows if it should come out mmm neither than many projects I think we're definitely gonna see some kind of like reboot rebranding like a the iphone one or the iphone cero or maybe just the iphone that's following maybe reboot trend is that without magic right yeah now they're just called ya pad Wow I'm not know yeah well that know if you I'd atha your sore hurt here check us out on cnet our podcast is also available on itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedburner and google play music we'll see you tomorrow later everybody you