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good afternoon everybody my name is Siva Meacham producer of the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tong what's up everybody welcome to the show it is episode 104 Apple byte extra crunchy keeping it extra Munchie with you here in studio in the flesh in the flash this is an Apple bite show but there was a Google event this week and we will talk about some of that stuff that dropped but we're here in the in the live showing let's be honest the flow is just better when we is when we're in the same way better always better sounds so good it sounds so good so anyways everybody welcome thank you so much for listening in as usual we are at episode 104 we love how you guys and gals continue to call in and be a part of this show the number to call us at 1-866-376-8255 and have fun doing it and so we just want to offer a little perspective here yeah thank you guys all for watching tuning in every week it's it's awesome so thank you and you know I think you guys and gals all kind of also we like we're like we're able to kind of escape some of this stuff through tech so let's get into the show and really to kick things off we did want to bring kind of a this day in history for the Apple world today as of at least this Thursday the show as most of you will hear this after Thursday is the sixth anniversary of the death of Steve Jobs believe it or not six years six years on October the fifth Tim Cook also today just posted a little tweet saying remembering Steve today still with us still inspiring us using a quote from SJ make something wonderful and put it out there oh yeah this is that was words from Tim Cook the successor to Steve Jobs and just kind of a note just something to think about in obviously around this time is right we're talking about the 10th anniversary of the iPhone but what happened this week was that Google had their own keynote and they dropped a lot of stuff and really aimed directly at Apple I don't know if you could feel that during the keynote Beach oh there are plenty of jobs at Apple during the chemo little bob-and-weave jab jab here up and under so what we want to do is kind of talk about a few of the things that they put out there and how it does compare with some of the things that Apple has out there at Google announced their new pixel two phones they announced their new home pas home Google home max Google home Mini they put out a pixel book they put out their own wireless earbuds just what we like to call a cornucopia of products so I thought it was actually really impressive keynote and it had a different vibe you know apples apples keynotes are starting to feel a little stale like it's the same style and delivery and stuff yeah and Google is like they had like I'm not saying you need a live DJ to make the keynote exciting but it did add some flavor to it don't you think oh yeah the live DJ's were cool and they're like working on tablets yeah it was cool it was cool so let's forget about the presentation let's talk about the actual products the first one that stuck out to me the most had to be Google's home max this is their home smart speaker it's a large size speaker larger than the home pod but why did it stick out for me look it has two offers it's larger in size it has the Google assistant so if we're talking about Google System versus Syria we know come on Google assistant is a better product right now although Syria has gone better at Google assistant is just a better product yeah all right in addition to that you can stand it you can lay it down sideways you can stand it up vertically if you wanted to you can pair them to have two speakers side by side much like they're encouraging people to do with a home pod the price point is a little more it's 399 but I loved how it looked like to me fabric is the new black like everything we're seeing is fabric covered yeah speakers home audio assistance Amazon dropped a bunch of stuff last week they had a bunch of fabric covered stuff Google has their own fabric covered speaker it looks great it is a little more but when I saw what it could do and just this you could the size of it it's it's honestly going to be a better product stand alone versus versus apples I got to admit when I saw Diplo had two of them for his DJ set up I was kind of jealous I'm like I got that set up right that looks good look cool like come on you're not gonna put two big fabric marshmallows on the side of your DJ table no no you know what I mean yeah exactly it doesn't look and there is a certain design aesthetic that Apple is going for but I don't even let's even just forget about how they look although look is very important the tech inside is better on the Google home Mac so I thought that was something that surprised me and the presentation of it was like really nice it does also have the ability to detect the room that you're in and automatically adjust that was kind of a big feature that Apple is pulling for and the other thing that I think that we have to pay attention to is Apple still looks like it's going to be specific to the Apple music service which is great if you use it but typically in Android fashion they've been able to be compatible with lots of services right out of the gate and I'm not saying like yeah you can always pair your phone to these Bluetooth speakers and control them from their individual apps but it's different when you can talk to the speaker directly and say you Spotify to play this playlist yeah yeah you know this code that code does that stuff too yep which is cool you can play Spotify Pandora all kinds so Google was kind of launching with a lot of those same partners too they had tune in Pandora and I don't know if they had Pandora Spotify and stuff like that so it's cool and then just YouTube in general music on YouTube there's like every song almost in the world is on YouTube somehow you know yeah so so it's really interesting that they threw they threw their hat into the table and it really does look like a better product out of the gates okay let's keep on moving down the line I think you have to talk about the pixel to phone specifically what what is it gonna be matched up against the pixel to excel is going to be matched up with the iPhone X or iPhone 10 iPhone 10 say I Phone 10 visually I think the phone looks fine it there's no way it competes in design with the actual iPhone 10 there there's just no way it can do that based on the design I'm not even I'm not even a big you know oh it's gotta be bezel it's got to be bezel it's it's a nice design but it doesn't it the iPhone 10 looks better do you agree I agree it looks like when I first saw it I was like it looks kind of like a like a cookie or something you know it has like I got Christmas cookie er you know just I do like the like little colored buttons on the side you know the brightly colored but that's just like a little flashy thing but yeah I mean the iPhone definitely looks a lot more slick yeah it's future it's gonna look like it's especially with that with that notch that I love so much that's right but from a standpoint of just just tech inside look the iPhone is going to be faster the iPhone screen is going to be better so when you talk about like in general the hardware the iPhone has the edge but this is one this is what Google has done now two years in a row where does it Excel it excels with its voice in three things actually its voice assistant it excels with its camera and it excels with kind of just new unique software features like when Google started their keynote they talked about how now these days phones are all about the same when it comes to hardware I'm gonna be like okay yeah sure to a certain degree but it's coming down to now software features that you bring to the table that work with the hardware and it's really funny to hear Google say that because this is really where Apple's bread and butter was years ago mixing hardware and software together to deliver cool unique solutions I think that from the software side it doesn't Apple hasn't felt like it's really changed and changed too much rascally are giving us many new like things that were like oh whoa but when we saw the keynote for the Google pixel - phone line you know it's we've seen in other companies but squeezing to prompt the assistant having the screen always-on in actually having the phone be always listening and being able to show you songs that it hears directly on the screen without you having to unlock it at all like I like I always on Shazam on your screen I thought that was actually really cool I thought that was really cool - yeah like really no cool they had like a real big focus on artists you know musical artists which was awesome so you're gonna be able to find music easier like circling a guy's picture and then it shows you his album and all his social networks and stuff that's pretty cool yeah so they're just little bells and whistles look none of this is gonna stop people that are listening here from completely jumping over like I saw that phone and I said to myself man I wish I could leave the ecosystem to give this a true shot maybe I just have to go a full week with a pixel - and just talk about it I think that would be good you know we're we are we since we work here you know we use Google Docs so we're kind of in that whole Google ecosystem and that's one thing they need to improve big time because like Google Drive and Google sheets and stuff like that they don't work very good on the iOS app or anything all right like on an iPhone app in general so that's something they need to improve and they have me because I use Google Docs a lot ya know so you have me there but like just not other places it's weird it's and I think it's the I actually think it's in a weird way I think it's kind of deliberate yeah because they want it to be like they want you to you know what it's not that there are drastically different but it is easy I only use honestly I really only use Google Docs for me on either a tablet or a computer I don't use it on my phone yeah I mean I use it on my phone but I can only just read stuff you know I can't like edit a spreadsheet on my phone or you know I can't it just takes a lot of it's hard yes yeah it's just not as small so we have that but the main thing here right the quick the camera quality is what sticks out why I'm only bringing up this not to like brag about the Google pixel - because let's be honest at the end of the day I'm going to get an iPhone 10 I will probably get a pixel two for my work phone but DxO mark had come out with the latest results of the camera performance that are kind of like become this de-facto reference site for camera performance in a smartphone so when the iPhone 8 came out it was rated the best performing camera that DxO mark has ever seen the note 8 came out and it was rated overall because they they rate photo and video separately overall the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 was rated equal to the iPhone 8 plus at a rink ranking score of 94 that factors in photo performance and video performance and if I recall right I believe the note 8 might have had an edge in photo but its video performance was so low that it fell out at a 94 well the the DxO mark score for the google pixel 2 which is a single lens camera this is not a dual lens camera came in at 98 yeah that's crazy so they said they couldn't use any more superlatives to describe how good the video and photo functionality of this phone was and so you got to think okay well the iPhone 10 is coming out where does the iPhone 10 fit in all this it has a dual lens it has a it has more technology packed into the actual there's actual processing power and custom silicon in the iPhone 10 to 8 in this camera capabilities I really am curious where will the iPhone 10 fall will it hit a 99 will it ty or will it be below because we talked about the best camera right now at this day Google's pixel 2 has the best camera on the market and it's a single lens camera it's still this portrait mode because it has a dual pixel sensor that allows it to detect foreground from background it's not a dual lens but it has a dual pixel sensor so I'm just really curious when the iPhone 10 comes out where it's gonna fall yeah yeah we're no Apple guys are you know scheming right now - how do we get our score up guys I've heard people yeah right I've heard people here say I want the phone with the here's the thing I've heard people here I won't name names say I want the phone with the best camera that's the phone that I'm gonna get but then when it comes down to it I've never seen them have the phone with the best camera yeah right there extremely they might say it in this room but they don't I always say you know back it up put your money down your own bread and butter not like a loaner from the company's put down your own money and that'll tell me if you really follow through with that statement right and so it is it shows the power of the ecosystem Google may have the best camera in the market but do you think that half of users that say I will buy the best the phone with the best camera are gonna jump over the pixel - not yet I don't think so I don't know yeah not everyone not a lot of people don't even care and you know we're like we're not all professional photographers out setting our apertures and stuff you know so I don't think a lot of people care they just want a phone that's gonna be fast easy to use and you know reliable basically yep so it's just ultimately it's a great offering from the phone it has unique software and it has the best camera in the market that was very cool we also saw Google kind of try and take on Apple with the wireless earbuds segment and I thought I thought it was probably the most exciting when we talked about look I think now these days we aren't really aren't allowed by hardware as much as we are with software features yeah we aren't we just aren't right so they showed off their Google pixel buds $159 same price as air pods but what do they have sure they have a wire that connects the two but it has instant live on-the-spot translation they showed this crazy demo of these two people talking to each other one with the pixel buds in speaking English and I think what was the other person doing were they speaking their stains in sure yeah is it Germany in German term it might have been German yeah but so they were they were speaking German worse making up stuff and it was a real-time translation between two people we had our own editors on site Sean list her was speaking Japanese to Lexi civvy days who was speaking English and it was translating in real time one person had the ear the pixel buds on the other one had the phone I just thought that was awesome and it's fast whoo yeah shocked at how fast it was it seemed like such a second or two you know nothing - it was such a natural conversation that we're having so it's like that is incredible you know yeah it was it was pretty amazing so again those are cool things that as tech lovers whether you're Apple or Google or Samsung wherever you are you've got to be like dang that was that was impressive so everyone the chat room sing Swedish so we both were wrong Swedish oh it was Swedish it wasn't churned German ich no wasn't you're not German Innes or Danish wait sweat ich sweet yes shoutout to the sounds in sweden what's up sweet so I think a lot of people were i don't care where you're from that was just impressive they have more touch controls and they have a prompt to the Google assistant they may not be as actually I don't know I think they technically look a little better but they do have a cord connecting them so I do wear air pods I do have the q-tips coming out of my ears I still think they look ridiculous I will never stop saying that but the cable is a safety measure though - it holds them on you know if you're they come out of your ears it's gonna stay on your head yeah it's true it's true so they also put that out I'm not gonna dig too much into the pixel book I thought the pixel book was really cool but it wasn't a standout for me only because it's a two-in-one convertible laptop with a touchscreen with a pen Apple obviously is stuck to their guns of saying we just want to give you a touch bar which everyone that I talk to now after using it over time has said it's lame like every single person when I first saw it my gut instinct was I'm not gonna use that you're only forced to use it to change the volume which you have like go into the setting and then you have to do two taps just to get to the volume change like it has no haptic feedback there's just too much stuff go I don't know I don't I don't think it chained has changed anything in my workflow and most people will agree I feel like 99% of people say yeah the touch bar was amiss yeah yeah definitely I haven't I haven't heard anyone say I love it it's great I'm sure get some calls or emails now but it's fine if you love it I want to know but a lot of people said they loved in the first week and then afterwards after they got over the hype they're like I don't even really use this thing and you have to like give a lot of these products a little time and breathing room look at what happens after Apple has a keynote and people are in the review room right off the keynote they are like sucking apples you know what and it's like come on it's just right there you don't know all the devil in the details yet you haven't used it for like a week and you're just like oh like there's great products the Apple watch series three LTE if you use it to its max when I say that you know in that ideal situation for an hour where you're working out and you want to get your phone in your text it is an amazing product but not everyone does that and if you don't it's probably not for you but for me I think it it's it's pretty amazing to me well because of how I you know how it's always comes down to now these days how you use the product so the pixel book $9.99 the MacBook Mac Apple is only offering that's around that price is $9.99 for the MacBook Air but this is where it comes down to it Chrome OS on the pixel book is like a web browser doot-doot right it's like it's not dude it's like a very lightweight operating system where it's like hey you do email and you do web browsing and yeah some basic photo editing that's about it that was like the big drawback was what people were yeah there's good for school like this pixel book is the design and the functionality is nice but if you can't run any high-end apps whatsoever on it it does nothing for me so it's funny someone threw out the comment like you might complain about how Apple over prices things but they would never charge $9.99 for a laptop that's just a web browser and that was funny you know that's a go because because a MacBook you're at $9.99 now you can literally you can still do it may not be the most powerful machine but you could still do pretty much everything that that a laptop actually does so you know we'll see how it all shakes out but that was just kind of some of the breakdown I thought that overall Google as they've kind of taken over and used a little identity of what Apple has done controlling hardware and software you can see how it is positively changing the direction of the company from a product standpoint like they're starting to get mature and coming out some really cool stuff an apple should be aware Apple's gonna sell more Apple will most likely sell more home pods versus Google's home max but I think the Google home acts is a better product like that happens a lot in the industry the whole thing yesterday just felt cohesive like even down to the colors of all their products they're all the same colors from the from the headset to the Google home pot you know the Google home speakers you know just all felt very cohesive like here's our line of stuff for this year it was cool it's very good so um kudos to them and best of luck we'll see that if there are people at I had no idea people had issues actually getting the original pixel XL really I had no idea how hard it was I got it like the first week and I was like this is dope yeah I'm clueless on that for my work phone that is okay let's kind of move and groove along this is a little update to let you all know what's happening kind of outside of the Apple world there was a recent vulnerability in Mac OS 10 High Sierra that we talked about how someone could put like nefarious code and be able to access your passwords and whatnot there's actually another vulnerability that was just updated recently as of I believe today Apple released a supplemental update to Mac OS tight Sierra actually ten point one point three Mac OS hi Sierra a ten point 10.13 it's the first update to the operating system that was released to the public now this update comes about a week after the initial release of Mac OS hi Sierra this will basically support and cover a software vulnerability that could expose the passwords of encrypted Apple file system volumes in just pure plaintext through the disk utility app so they threw out this supplemental patch that is out there I suggest if you have high sierra you definitely go and get this this does not address the last vulnerability we talked about but that was that's more you have to know the code to actually activate it in the ex NSA hacker who was able to figure this out has made Apple aware of it and they're gonna work on a fix there's not like he's gonna publish that code and say hey this is how you can use everyone's get everyone's computer but at least this new recent keychain vulnerability has been patched with this new update so just just the little things like to know like okay maybe you should maybe you should get on that um in addition that iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 plus we talked about this kind of crackling noise that happened to some users when they're on phone calls that has been updated with 11 point 0.25 I just don't know my battery's still getting destroyed by iOS 11 I remember in past iOS is that yeah after about a week they said it was like optimizing the system and whatnot but I I my battery still is is crap in iOS 11 and they haven't addressed a specific update to that and that's really what they need to do are their apps like following your location or something cuz sometimes like after you do these big updates to defaults all your some of your apps back on to following your location around I mean I've checked most of them I think the the most disconcerting thing is I I was on a plane ride that was only 45 minutes I had my phone in airplane mode I was only playing music and I had the screen offense and I was literally flying probably 40 45 minutes tops I was coming over here right yeah my flight my phone used 20% of my battery doing that just listening to music yes with airplane mode on for a 40 minute of roughly 40 minutes that's never happened before yeah that has never happened before in the entire time I've ever used my phone and so I was like dang I find myself in normal use looking down to my phone around 3 or 4 o'clock and it's already down to like 30 40 % that never happened before either that's a button I mean usually can use listen the music app for hours and hours and it like take 2% off that's what I'm saying it's it's great if ik n't I know people are still experiencing this some people are not but a lot of people are so I just weeds need a call out Apple and be like are you gonna give us the software update or not like yet get on that already or we're waiting for you guys to just address it and people on a 6 & a 6s they're just like hating life right now still I haven't updated because I've been hearing your problem I've been still I think it's super smart I think you are the smartest person in this room Thanks there have been more reports also with the iPhone 8 and 8 plus this is not a widespread issue but it is happening to a small group of them and they are increasing right now I think there's only been maybe five or six documented cases that we know about that people have come forward with but what is happening potentially Apple is aware of this and looking into it during something is going on with a select few or maybe a specific batch of lithium ion batteries and where is it it is causing whether it's it's not it doesn't look like it's necessarily heat but it might but it might be relate to that or when the battery is actually charging it has been shown in different cases where the actual iPhone 8 pluses the the metal is bursting open because of this yeah that that sounds like the note the last note problem sounds similar at least they are they're not sitting on fire yeah they're not exploding and setting on fire but there are multiple pictures of iPhone 8 pluses sometimes people have opened them up from the package and they've arrived like this burst open one gentleman plugged it in overnight and then it burst open but there is something with a specific batch of batteries that is causing them to swell and burst open this iPhone 8 plus phone so just want to let you all know one just want to let you all be aware of it this is not a battery gate or anything unlike iOS 11 that's battery gate right there I'm more than comfortable calling that battery gate that's funny that's just poopoo my 3GS did that what had a back in the day but I'd already had it like two or three years it's slightly old yeah it swelled up like I had it turned off for a while cause it was just giving me a lot of problems it wouldn't charge this and that and then I plugged it in one day and it just like it just expanded in front of me and exploded I'm you know it didn't like explode but I don't blame but it opened but it opened up oh damn same way like this did that was a 3GS but I'd already owned it for like two or three years been using it a lot so you know I didn't really think about anything of it I just threw it away or I recycled in a river but never underestimate the power of batteries yeah they're kind of they're kind of crazy they power a mini-computer in your pocket that's just all that's all they do right yeah Apple has released watch OS 4.0.1 I'm loving this one this is the fix to the issue where when you're connected to your phone and then you're looking for LTE outside of your phone the ability for it to switch or not get hung up on wife public Wi-Fi networks where it would cause the Apple watch to basically not connect to anything temporarily or for a good stretch of time which is what I experienced in my review a lot because I was hanging out with my girlfriend and sometimes she'd have full signal and I would have none and I would be like what is going on here and it's it's because of that issue according to them they have fixed this with 4.0 point one it's an update you guys can do it guys and gals can do it right now it's obviously through your phone through the Apple watch app but uh yeah I'm I'm more than happy about the battery life on this Apple watch series three it's bomb that's nice just in normal use it is a it is great whether I have my phone with me or whether I don't and then also the Nike watch version of the Apple watch 3 is in stores now so in case some of you are waiting for that you like that Nike integration with their app and also like basically you get like exclusive watch faces with it from that are part of Nike and then it comes with the Nike watch band it's very similar to what happened with the series - those are out there in stores now so you guys you know can check it out see if you're down with that I thought it was gonna be like the green like the black and green color that was last year that was last year's Stephen definitely I'm sorry you can buy that you can buy that band though for 50 bucks if you want I don't want that green okay I'm gonna tell you guys and gals I'm gonna tell you all why don't keep on saying guys and gals today I'm gonna tell you guys and late the ladies and gentlemen's a protip look there are if you go on eBay like seriously I tried this out to see maybe this is really jank you're not they have like replacement Apple watch bands and Apple charges 50 bucks for theirs you can literally get and I held them side-by-side I closed my eyes I like felt the material the thickness the actual bolts on them they're like 10 bucks on eBay oh yeah I'm looking at 125 right here I mean those are metal ones but there's like the rubber if you type in like Apple watch rubber like 42 millimeter you there was I'm just not gonna go to the Apple store and buy a $50 rubberband anymore I'm going to go on eBay and get them there's there's manufacturers clearly they're being shipped in from China they're like replacement bands there so I yeah it's not that top one that top one right there oh yeah you know it soft you know you know these things literally cost like pennies on the dollar to me that's exactly the bolt is literally exactly like what a pice I held up an expensive one side by side so I'm just saying that's cool man it's totally worth it so I'm gonna get all color I'm gonna get all colored up now yeah you baste they do all kinds of holiday deals too man look out for your holiday deals let's who wants to talk about everyone wants to talk about iPhone 10 oh yeah don't you want to talk about iPhone 10 I can't wait to just see one I know and like why use it and ya be annoyed that it takes longer to unlock my phone than it does today the iPhone 10 Apple has received FCC approval ahead of its October 27th pre-order date so what this really means is it's gone through a variety of requisite tests that it needs to follow up needs to pass to allow it to be cleared for sale the good news is that it cleared that FCC's like thumbs up the iPhone 10 we know we've heard the stories about the production levels of how they are expected to be lower oh it's gonna be hard to get I'd really think this is gonna be a super hard phone to get this year yeah yeah like that it's just there's just no way there's not another really fun report we know we have our friend Ming Chu Kuo who was with KGI securities he put up this report about specifically the true depth camera right this is that whole array on the top that's people are now I think a lot of Apple fans are trying to really sell themselves on this and say it's what makes the eye phone unique from others mm-hmm and I'm like bro yeah it does just just get over yourself it doesn't look good but fine let's forget that I'm not gonna get in a debate about that I would like to him over the phone with someone because you're just crazy but the true depth camera we know it has all these sensors like a flood illuminator a proximity sensor an infrared camera ambient light sensor the technology in it and the way it actually scans your face is unlike anything that is on the market today it is outright more advanced than what Samsung has so Ming chic whoa after looking at the functionality and the user experience came out with a report that claims it would take probably about two and a half years one to two and a half years for competitors to catch up with what Apple has Wow interesting again this is if they want to replicate this true depth sensor which I kind of laugh at because they have a fingerprint sensor and it it works just fine like it's still faster into a fingerprint sensor the other thing though right this true depth sensor is front-facing I think the detail that people aren't really thinking about is that it will also take roughly year to two and a half years for Android to use and emojis true this is one of the top three features that Apple pitched to us about the new iPhone 10 exclusively on the iPhone 10 yeah so I'm sorry I think when Android comes out with it they're gonna call them and remote jeez I made that up it that's right good no it's not funny patented patented right here and from oh jeez right now yeah Shh ago it was it we have prior you know you could you can prior work or prior art prior so yeah so if someone has a lawsuit we can say no what's the date today who came out with who wait hold up which which show which collective started the whole iPhone X Revolution dude I'm gonna I'm gonna be texting you like we have a lawsuit Brian they just called it Andrew Android mo geez and Romo geez dude I'm serious first it's iPhone X now it's and remote jeez they need a higher s already yeah what's up we're just just hire us for coming up with two names yeah or at least you copyright infringement come on we have a message come on another thing going on with the Apple world Apple employees are testing Apple pay cash internally an iOS 11.1 so the 11.1 beta is out right now so what they're doing is internally they're giving employees basically kind of like how you have access to the beta with like a special certificate for your phone they're getting employees this special certificate that gives them access to the pay to pay it's found in the messages app where we can send money to another Apple user it has not been rolled out to anyone publicly in any form of public beta but they have according to a user and MacRumors it has been confirmed that this is being tested by Apple yeah it's apples venmo I can't wait for this man I think a lot of people are gonna it's gonna make a lot of things a lot of a lot easier I think if you I don't know exactly but if all you you know what instead of actually having to use an Apple pay app on the bottom bar and messages I think that if you have someone's name and you just type in a dollar amount and it instantly will prompt you like if you want to send it put your fingerprint on or scan your face for Apple pay to send it like I don't want to take an extra step to go to the Apple pay to pay app on the bottom underneath my messages I just want to type in an amount and then send it now that would be that would make me use it more than venmo because it's just quicker totally you know how there's like all these little anomia I don't know how you guys think about that I've totally agree you know how there's like little buttons here like there's a little camera button yeah and stuff like that if there's just needs to be like a dollar sign button hit that type in who you want it to go to type in the amount boom that's what I'm talking about that's what I'm talking about another story here Samsung according to the Wall Street Journal a report by them in partnership with counterpoint technology Samsung is expected to earn four billion more making iPhone 10 parts compared to Galaxy s8 parts Wow so this is because Apple is such a huge customer right when you put in those terms it's really crazy so this analysis was put together by counterpoint technology on behalf of the Wall Street Journal they used the prediction based on projected sales in the first 20 months after new phones go on sale that would be November 3rd for the iPhone 10 that's because this is like kind of the ideal window when people tend to buy a new phone that was first 20 months now they said counterpoint expects Apple will sell 130 million iPhone 10 units earnings samsung about a hundred and ten dollars on each unit through the summer of 2019 okay again Apple is expected to sell 130 million units the Galaxy s8 is expected to sell around 50 million units now they are earning more from the s8 because of the prices of the components but just from that pure sheer number the iPhone 10 is expected to bring them 4 billion more dollars I thought another cool point that was mentioned in here is that Samsung executives as when they talk about this their if let's say they're in a business meeting and you pull out a phone and it's not a Samsung phone it's an iPhone they're totally okay with it because they consider iPhones are besting their best client in the report it says Samsung employees offer often refer to Apple with code names one of the most popular is low short for a lovely opponent like they get a hundred and ten dollars for every iPhone they sell that's that's you know it's like there's an it I doesn't Samsung helped Apple sell iPhone said yeah put them on their website something on behalf of our low yeah low low low low low low oh man we got like apple bottom jeans notes with the curves you know like they I don't know they should just do some marketing thing you know they I'm sure they see long lines at the Apple Store they're like ooh we're gonna cash in this time that's a song right there man we've got a song right there that's easy I love it though low lovely opponents that's good I'm gonna I'm gonna use that next time on the court I'm like what up low guys gonna be like what are you talking about you know lovely opponent like what he's gonna be like I'm gonna kick you ass all right this is a fun story unfortunately it literally expired overnight apples known to do this but just a couple of days ago if you asked Siri what is the national anthem of Bulgaria the song that came up as a recommendation and a direct link to that song was des posse though this path Seto you know the song Siri says the national anthem Bulgaria is des Posse toe-in when in fact it is Mila roadie no it was we have the evidence the visual evidence this was I guess originally found on reddit it started to spread like wildfire scene I put in a barnacle we tested it yesterday and then as of this morning it was changed fixed correctly Apple has been known to do this that's funny man because you know how everyone was calling the iPhone 10 iPhone X I mean people are still calling it the iPhone X the general population is calling it the iPhone X we asked I specifically asked Siri just for fun I'm like hey how do i preorder the iPhone 10 when you ask it the proper way Siri used the Roman numeral X and she would respond this is how you order the iPhone X and I was ready we set up our cameras do this skit about it right and just being like I told you was a cold you and that because they worked the day before that morning they had literally fixed it oh wow that's funny cuz you know that's just like man Siri tells you it's access like I knew it I don't knew it that makes me feel sorry for this Siri engineers cuz you know they're getting a phone call I like midnight they're like ready to go depression they're teeth like hunk fixed some bulgaria national anthem ah man okay I'll do it so people are applet and let's be on it a political as paying attention what's going on here with Siri they are they totally are that means that they're little they're a little concerned it sounds it seems like you know Oh totally I really didn't want the iPhone X iPhone 10 part I'm I wanted that mini skit so bad that's that's a but I wanted that time you know that's gold that's just a cold that's a mini gold joke well through the magic of editing we could probably stick you probably could but it would be very Pitt then people would try to be like dude it doesn't work what are you talking about then you begin a bad apple you would I would I would get a bad that I would get a bad apple all right so we got a guys everybody called in we loved it so much again if you want to be a part of the show 1-866-376-8255 or space great to me the space Grey's are going to have a higher people are gonna want those more just because it just looks better yeah with the black it's also kind of like the classic al Apple iPhone color totally so let's let's just throw it out here silver 64 is most definitely going to be the least popular then quite honestly I'm gonna lean it depends on how many Apple make scene are you saying which one sells out first or which one sells the most because they're probably going to produce more 64 gig models then they can keep up to produce 256 gig models there's like a shortage of flash memory going around so I think that will make it harder as well I'm gonna say this silver 64 black 64 silver 256 black 256 if you want in order from which sells out first hmm but in order if you said which is the most popular I go silver silver black black see I interpreted this question completely different I thought he was saying like each I phone he said iPhone yeah he said iPhone 10 so and everything like I see eight eight plus 10 so that would be easy it would be se 8 8 plus 10 C was like a real popular Buster's I guess I'm saying which ones I would want in the order yeah but without a doubt black 256 will be the hardest one to get in my opinion it's totally that's that's where I'm at yeah the big one I am disappointed there was no signature color I think it's just because they couldn't get it done in time and I think that we'll see a third color sometime in like the next six months yeah they tend to do that with like it's like 5 seer wears it was rose gold.rose go was rosy I want the Rose eh I would not be opposed to a rose gold phone neither would i but the black just looks it just looks so much better yeah it looks complete I'm gonna slap a dope case on it oh sorry next call I'm like looking at the website I'm sure I know I know you has that power you're like good cool website this is real good right now okay here we go next question hi guys this is Jennifer from Oklahoma calling back um I had called last week you were right my other question is about that Apple watch LTE or the regular three would it be if I'm not planning on using it for a cell phone right now but is it possible use it and not put it on a plan and then maybe later put it on a plan when I find I want to use it for voice calls so anyway that's those are my questions thanks so much take care bye what up Jennifer the answer to that is yes you can when you set up your Apple watch to your phone for the first time it asks you specifically there's a panel that asks you if you want to set it up for cellular or not you can skip that step the only thing that I'm not sure about is when you if you want to kind of reactivate that cellular step I don't know if it's actually in the settings of the app or you might have to potentially I don't think so kind of Reese refresh your Apple watch from start and go through that process I just don't know if there's this the quick shortcut to be like okay now I want to turn on cellular the other thing that I do want to bring up is and I mentioned this in my review if you are someone who was on a grandfather data plan almost all of those and I'm talking about a plan that's easily five years old or more mine was like eight nine ten I've had the same data plan forever because I wasn't trying to pay more they're gonna ask you to upgrade to some sort of a modern plan these are the words that they use with me for a modern device to work with it they said their system had no way of attaching a new Apple watch LTE to an old data plan which means you're gonna have to pay more for your data plan in addition to ten more dollars for that for the Apple watch to work on it so there's finances here that Apple just made to say okay ten more dollars to go on your plan and like they told me 20 more dollars so what I did is I went a customer service I went to this area on AT&T called like customer loyalty I looked at all the plans I found out how much data I typically use right now period and I found a plan that technically is it it is a semi unlimited it was called a I think mobile share Advantage is the name of the plan but I was able to get 20 gigs and then once I hit 20 gigs that throttles down the speed which I'm like fine but I only had to pay five more dollars for this new plan instead of the initial $20 they were telling me to then you add on the ten so really I'm paying $15 more than I used to but at least I'm not paying $30 more hmm and that and okay so that's just if you want to watch right that you had to get a whole new plan for yes own - yeah I had to get a whole new data plan oh man again right there the modern a modern plan for a modern device it's called BS we just want more money yeah they logically lost me right there man I will not upgrade because I'm grandfathered any time and I'm telling you most of you here's the thing you've got to really be able to commit and are the type of person that will use your watch when you're working out without a phone if you don't do that I really don't think there's any reason to buy those series three watch LTE version I think if you just go from an original Apple watch in your fan and you want to get the third gen it's gonna be a great upgrade because the speed and performance in the Serie but don't get the LTE version if you're someone that doesn't work out it serves no purpose other than okay fine I'm gonna go to the grocery store and I'm gonna be gone away from my phone but you're typically gonna have your phone with you when you go to the grocery store yeah it's a really specific use case and you've got to figure out if it's worth it before you do that it was worth it for me and I'm very happy because that's what I wanted my watch to do and 20 gigs I blow through 20 gigs like do you know what you're do you know what your monthly is about like 20 like 30 maybe really like that oh damn I'm streaming constantly oh yeah I'm around I'm actually around 16 per month they told me oh really see well I get to 16 like halfway through the month and then they start sending in the text that they're gonna start throttling or something yeah and then I do notice like the slowness I'm like you're throttling me you better use that work Wi-Fi more beach I do I do yeah oh yeah get on that work Wi-Fi more yeah if it works yep sometimes I turn off the work wife I'm like this is crap I know it's terrible blocking me from Ticketmaster again forget y'all yeah alright next call hey guys Fred from Jersey quick question you see all the technology they put in with facial recognition do you really think that the under the screen fingerprint ID was ever in the works and second question do you think that we'll see it in the next generation of honks thanks guys love the show I think that if they can get it right it will be in the next iPhone that's what I feel like this is like an iPhone 9.5 there are multiple reports and evidence that they absolutely were trying to put it in this phone they have multiple patents over the years that have shown that they've been they already had the patents for fingerprint sensing through a screen without a physical button so I there's no way they weren't working on it but again we know we have to look at the industry as a whole Samsung had a problem with it I believe it's Qualcomm the company that says they will have a under the fingerprint screen sensor ready to go by the end I think mid to end of 2018 you've got to imagine that Apple is working on their own so combine all that I hope that they get it done by next year because I think it could be a really powerful combination depending on what you use facial scanning for versus what use your fingerprint for and how they can complement each other I think you can do some really cool things if both of those things are there you know that's I think that was the I think that was the goal quite honestly and for whatever reason I think Apple although they tried and tested it just from a pure aesthetics reason they wouldn't that they were not willing to put a fingerprint sensor on the rear of the phone mmm and I wish they did I it has never bothered me it has never bothered me people like put it on the Apple logo well it's not that easy have the Apple logo later that lights up and then takes you off into space yeah that's not gonna happen but that's what they did with the pixel that I had some it's on the back right yeah it's on it's on the perfect spot it's fine I really feel like LG was the first company that did this if I recall right I feel like it was LG that was the very first one that put that fingerprint sensor in the back and when you pick up the phone it's totally there it's it's not that bad instrument I feel like the way that your hand naturally grabs a phone in general your fingerprint is there same amount of time your fingerprint moves down to push on the bottom of the front screen so yeah I do I do expect it next year I just hope that they can get it done all right next call a beach and tongs is Alex all the way from the East Coast here do I hear that guy keep playing him a beach and tongs Alex all the way from the East Coast here in Miami I just wanted to give a quick comment on something that Beach said on the last episode about the Lightning port not being connected really well to the iPhone and being really loose same thing happened to my iPhone 6 and what I found out was lint stuck inside that little port inside the phone so went in there real carefully with a little toothpick you'd be surprised how much lint I got out of there and then once I tried the Lightning port back in there BAM it was stuck on really good wouldn't get any of those connections and the whole not charging issue and whatnot so anyway just wanted to give that old but still good tip to you guys maybe it works hopefully it does alright guys love the show take care yeah baby I got a lot of people tweet me that about that on your behalf yeah me too you do did you try the ignite I haven't had time but I'm gonna try it and now maybe I'll take some pictures of my lint if I pull this this is lit this place is lit this is so lit yeah oh yeah I mean that makes sense yes it's in my pocket all the time so I'm sure there's lint from my pants or your hoodies your little a little soft little sweaters no this thing for like two and a half years our sweater vests yeah well linty sweater vests yeah that's what I'm saying your sweater vest I still wear any sweater vests your parents your pata go near Patagonia d-bag that's Rhode show my Roadshow jacket here I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend our listeners but the Patagonia vest on top of a baby blue collared poplin shirt is the biggest d-bag thing I've ever it's just horrible just stop it guys just stop it already although someone would say this would insult my hair just as he just as easily so yeah but I'm just saying stop that already I hate that it's the worst yeah okay let's move on next call last call for alcohol here we go hey guys this is Ricky from Dallas Texas I just mention about the low power for the iOS 11 what I've been doing is I just been putting my phone in low-power mode and it's been working just fine so I don't have to really worry about that so that helps me buddy there you go low-power mode yeah man but like when you're low-power mode you can't do like you nearly half the stuff these like a lot of stuff like notification okay here let me let me read this all I mean insane you my man you are totally right okay you can even do things like try and like bijna said turn off certain locations I think location services on certain apps I think the biggest one is if you want to reduce the fetch on your email oh instead of it doing real-time just make it do like every half hour unless you really got to get that actually you should be careful because all these stupid not stupid all these Instagram museums are like so hot right now like the color museum the ice cream museum 29 rooms look them all up okay yeah like their tickets are so hard to get that they'll send you an email when the tickets are available really I don't even know but if you're not one ice cream one but are they what do they have to do with Instagram it's like the their visual least visually just like dope rooms weather like the color fat color factory or color museum I do see people instagramming those places over that's what I'm saying so their rooms basically made for the Instagram generation is for the IG it's like oh you're so cool you went to another Instagram museum great congratulate isn't it full of balls yes in the pit guess what I'm the thirty-fifth person with a yellow pit ball picture congratulations boomerang I'm blue badges alright yeah exactly boomerang IG Facebook Twitter all right low power but here let me just break down everything you'll lose if you don't allow low power mode I've only gone a low power mode when it was like 10% I mean he was gonna be out for a long time like I just hope this gets me through but it doesn't low power mode temperature temporarily reduces power consumption until you can fully charge your iPhone when this is on mail fetch hey Siri background APRI all due to just set off my Siri blank Siri background app refresh automatic downloads and some visual effects are reduced or turned off okay so no notifications still work that well background app refresh icon is really kind of tied to I automatic downloads ya know just I mean mail fetch is yeah it's like living with a cast on kind of you know like he's like I'm just gonna wear a cast it'll be fine or you could get an Apple watch LTE for $400 and then pay 10 more a month and update your plan and just get gouged up that you know what there's solutions out there guys yeah there's always a tough tough solutions a bunch of first world solutions a bunch of first world solutions all right man that's it that's it yep okay everybody thank you so much for being a part of the show again if you want to call us and get interactive with us it's uh I don't know what is what's the what's the phone number