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welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox Riven another day another iPhone rumor the latest is about the name of the jumbo size version of the next flagship phone it's supposedly gonna be called the iPhone 10's max not not plus max I love it it's so bad look whatever we complain about this stuff all the time and then it becomes like pretty normal after a couple months so I mean we did I wonder if we've made a lot of fun of the iPad when it first came out okay I had the air pods how they looked the iPhone x2 we called it the iPhone X for a while this was gonna be really confusing because it's the iPhone X s they're gonna pronounce it this way the iPhone X s max that's a lot of X's it's such a stupid name but who cares Apple is worth more than a trillion dollars what do they care what we have to say that's true people are still gonna buy it are you uh are you keen on you're an Android guy now you keen on these new iPhones at all so if they actually have a cheaper version of this iPhone I would consider going back you know the big problem was is that they're offering the iPhone 8 for more money and it wasn't that much nicer but no different than the iPhone 6 so it looks like they're doing a full refresh with the three iPhones this time around so we'll say well see all right lots and lots of Amazon news there it's been a couple days the company briefly hit a trillion dollar valuation on Tuesday but yesterday a lot of people were pulling their hair because they suffered a an outage or search outage yeah couldn't you can buy your diapers or toilet paper which is what all is which is the only thing I buy on Amazon so this one's interesting because it comes after they had a really bad outage during prime day yeah and the prime day one made sense to me in that there was just a flood of traffic that was coming in to Amazon so it made sense that it would get messed up then but this was just a random day in September sorry is this gonna be a problem for them going into the holidays I mean for for their sake they should certainly hope not because every single time there's sites down they're gonna like they lose millions of dollars like I don't know a minute an hour I'm not sure where lastly there is the Bernie Sanders his latest stop Bezos act Bezos actually stands for bad employers by zeroing out subsidies oh it's a great name bad employers by zeroing out subsidies act I have to wonder how much let me spend on that name what it does basically required big companies like Amazon and Walmart to pay the government for any food stamps public housing Medicaid or other assistant programs that its employees used because they're not making enough money at those companies right I don't think so Sanders has been hammering Amazon for well over a month now about this issue and there's there's a lot to be considered here from Amazon's perspective they say that yes there are people that use snap which is the new name for food stamps but a lot of them are part-time or we're just temporarily working at Amazon so obviously they would be eligible for these types of programs also they have warehouse workers who obviously get paid a lot less than you know a tech worker in an office so there's it's it's from their perspective that's interesting but I think Bernie Sanders is definitely going to keep hammering this issue so oh yeah lastly we just wanted to you know drop a tease there we got a first look at the the new Captain Marvel made by brie Larson she will be playing the first female superhero lead in a Marvel movie so it's a big milestone just like Black Panther was the african-american community this year you know people are looking at Captain Marvel for sort of you know female empowerment for next year so I'll come out for a while but I think what we're seeing so far is pretty tricking stuff if it does even half as well as Black Panther I'm sure they will be very excited about that and if you if you're a big comic book geek this is the first time we'll see the the Scrolls which are pretty well known comic book villain they're not that well-known in mainstream awareness but they're they're these shape-shifting aliens that have proven to be fairly vicious sort of antagonists for the various Marvel heroes so for a while people were people thought it was the tied up with Fox I think Fox's assets I never heard of them there ya know they're more like villains for the Fantastic Four okay anyways boy these toys because I've seen it I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox Ruben thanks for listening every episode ends with you guys like critiquing how badly you did I was kidding that was uh no that was a bad show so terrible that show do we still have people watching hey Roger what's a Skrull again ask oh I heard scroll Scroll scroll Scroll did I say that wrong SKR ull yes that's what I said okay did I not pronounce that correct mr. over helmet are you sorry it's a race of shape-shifting aliens that are I think one of the big powers in the Marvel cosmic universe mm-hmm and I've showed up time and time again as he antagonists for various Marvel heroes for the actors I don't know anything about that I was happy to see Infinity Gauntlet I will show that was an old sort of trivia like the original Avengers movie with the alien invaders coming in a lot of folks thought the scrolls would be the big alien antagonists or villain coming in turned out there's a British Atari which was I'm running a geeky here which was the Ultimate Marvel Universe version of the scrolls and I think they did that because they had I think Marvel at the time meyneth had legal rights to use the scrolls because Fox might have owned them yeah let her down a whole radical here I thought I was a comic book nerd but apparently not I've been a while yeah I think I just went down this rabbit hole one day I'm like wow this is actually kind of because they had like there were legal implications and there was and then there was the whole background of the comic books and the history of these villains anyways I used to have the like the old Marvel cards and like the different yeah like there were these different characters for all the different characters you know how many characters they have they have hundreds oh yeah thousands of characters I'm waiting for the watchers to show up again you know what those guys are the a the JJ heads they just watch everything we're in the guardians to the sequel oh I like the very end no really briefly I think when they were hopped like when raccoon and they were like hopping from place to place I think one of the places they stopped it like turn into the Watchers and yeah they're like hey what's Cameo there so anyway I'm sure our questions are not Captain Marvel related Brian what do we got I mean I could talk about Captain Marvel all day and how I think it's an injustice that we're getting Captain Marvel before we're getting Black Widow oh yeah that's true years of black widow build up with no movie I want that movie so bad it hurts anyways from sir enjoy welcome back bfr what's I think polo looks like you're gonna go out for a beer after the show I will be it is really hot here it's very high if I didn't have if I hadn't had a media hit earlier today I probably would have been wearing a polo as well yes to be fair enjoy all right where the bear arms so let's talk about the elephant in the room what in other words Matthew catcher says max excess money that's what that stands for max excess money is the iPhone max excess money get it get it I'm not good I'm not getting access money as in you're spending excess money right yes money yes you're right you guys are way too clever for us you boys by the living hell out of this phone they're just gonna buy it they don't care I mean labels on it this is a really you you what is it like the Droid line of phones had really like a similar name oh yeah where it was like the Droid ultra karate job Troy turbo I think there was a droid Maxx yeah at one point yeah two x's I just it's a I don't know I don't understand what they're doing with their naming I'm just surprised they didn't use plus again I feel like everyone kind of was comfortable with the the plus and everybody uses the plus maybe Apple is now trying to switch over to something else because Samsung users Plus doesn't Google use plus or do they use Mac's pick no pixel uses the Excel oh okay and they weren't gonna do that then it would be the iPhone xs-xl mmm extra small-extra-large their vault by the extra-medium certain joy says if Excel means extra large and excess means extra small wouldn't excess max cancel each other out and just become an iPhone X right so that's 100 sadly right this logic of this phone is uh yeah it's a little dubious remember I guess we have to probably pronounce a-10s even though everyone else will say access but what's gonna happen next year we're gonna have to write the story like what's you know no it won't be as if Roman numerals it's why I phone why I don't know listen why are we still talking about Apple Shawn Vega fellas is calling you on your BS it how could you know so much about Marvel and not catch that Apple pun that's really blind spot for random puns I think our minds are still kind of slogging after yesterday that is a fair point my brain is working in half speed today because of all the like the six plus hours of congressional hearings that we had to listen to that that Ben got out of it yeah because he was I was watching my kid and eating sauerkraut yes I'm out my kid ended up in Berlin and all this no I am very happy I didn't have to watch all that yeah you were mm-hmm all right so you Skippy on the new phone we'll see what that takes us next week let's talk about Amazon for a second cuz I'm glad you guys covered that as a story today cuz that actually happened me last night I was I forgot what the hell always even shopping yeah what are you gonna buy you don't know I searched for it well I was looking for shoes and I just kept getting bagel so like did what was it and the long story on this one then there I I don't I don't know that he knows anything they didn't really disclose it I think they tend to avoid disclosing this stuff like I remember with prime day they had this huge screw-up where we weren't able to access the website they get all they saw with the dogs right yeah they all saw Amazon employees or something and I asked the chief financial officer during like an earnings call with reporters and he finally like he had a statement ready but this was like well over a week or a week and a half afterward he was like we had a like a rush of traffic and that's what ended up happening and it you know kind of really screwed up the website so with this one again why it happened randomly in September it's hard to say but Amazon tends to keep this stuff pretty quiet it's also newsworthy because it doesn't really happen that often no so you know it's it would be very bad and unfortunate if this started to come up more often I had two random friends like text me about that just the fact that they were texting about like Amazon errors they're not techie people at all know what's going on that was on where can i buy whatever the heck they were gonna buy people want to buy stuff on Amazon and that's how all the time that is how they became briefly a trillion dollar company is is that you have a robust website that doesn't fail all the time and this is twice already we're seeing in only a couple months so I don't know what's going on here so I have a serious question for you how long do you think it took pretty centers to come up with the Bezos that Oh God and you know what I like about it - he gets - right stop Bezos and it's all capital letters Bezos so okay it's it's granted this is Washington DC so the names don't really make sense to begin with but this one is a real gem actually kind of works I don't really understand what it means it stopped at employers by zeroing out subsidies by basically eliminating the subsidies or okay for having the employer pay the subsidies that they're government subsidies government subsidies yes okay that does actually make more sense than I put into this native-like how do we fit these words into Bezos yes yes and and it's okay it's worth throwing out there that he was making a big stink about their fulfillment centers yeah asked to go to a fulfillment center Amazon had recently called a mountain said we were in touch with your office we invited you to a fulfillment center you have gone to one yet so amid all of this it's important to recognize the fact that like he's he's complaining up and down about working conditions and all that other stuff but he still hasn't actually visited one of these locations yes but I mean this this act isn't necessarily true we wouldn't address working in dishes good work it would address hey right and so or the lack of pay the fact that some employees still need government assistance even though they have a job and maybe some of them are part-time learners that that's kind of obscured right soon I don't know if that I feel like that's Amazon you know throwing that out there - I guess mix up the argument or the debate a little bit but this this has nothing to do really with working in dishes yes more about pay yeah um I I think it's an important issue to bring up I mean like these are the people that get your packages ready and right you know how this stuff gets delivered and you know the pay I guess a lot of people would think that it's perhaps too low Amazon claims that you they have very competitive salaries within the warehouse industry so it it depends who you're looking at from this perspective I don't know if Amazon's actually gonna end up doing something about this but I remember Walmart also had to deal with a lot of these issues back when they were very much in the spotlight I mean this this act does Target Walmart as well with theoretically Target Walmart ooh because they've got a lot of warehouse employees yeah I don't know we'll see how far this actually goes I mean like with Republicans controlling Congress I don't actually imagine it's gonna get that much attention but Bernie Sanders is definitely getting attention for himself for this look that name is that's gonna get attention right stop Bezos it's a pretty ingenious name for an act there's another situation that's coming up I think later this month Jeff Bezos is planning on making a big announcement of where he's going to give away all of his money you know so like he's gonna be like this big philanthropy but yeah is that gonna help him in this situation I don't know it's it's not directly related i I mean it's not like he's giving the warehouse workers his money as much as I think that would be a really idea be great it's like I'm giving all 16 percent of Amazon to the warehouse worker I mean he could set up a program for like scholarships aid whatever educational resources he's not gonna do it I'm gonna do it yeah that would actually pretty nice yeah anyway do we have more questions yeah Bryan well we got a few more let's steer away from Amazon it sounds like people are still having trouble with the site this morning a peccary dogs syringe Oh is wondering if they just straight-up change the format of the site I haven't been doing yet again this morning outside of the quick research I did for our b-roll but like I didn't really notice any drastic changes but we'll have to keep looking into that sounds like they might be doing like an overhaul on the back end and that's causing the problems if that's the case it could be yeah but they do those all the time it could be regional too cuz I'm not having any issues with it right now the thing is is that they fix up that website constantly and these types of things don't tend to percolate to the consumer so yeah it's obviously problematic if you want to buy stuff on Amazon and you can so yeah yeah swinging back into iphone territory just for a brief second hey Peck says ever wonder how phones are named the PR department writes words on a paper sticking in a hat picks a number pull out as many pieces of paper voila brand new name for a device is born I feel like they do that all over the place like oh one thing I really hate is any time I love working with David Carr no here but any time he brings a product it's it's the Bose X F 2700 those names so models so order it like so the name conventions a text sucks so going back a bit back past the 2000 when we're out of flip phones I remember the naming conventions were like that it was like the V X 100 of the V X 25 50 the Nokia of 53 whatever the 5300 I think it was a banana phone oh it wasn't tell the the Motorola RAZR came out that they kind of I think that changed things when like people started associated Razer with cool other brands started copying that you had phones like the blade and he had phones like I don't know I'm trying to blank the Perl actual names and then that we're like in this weird I feel like we're in this hybrid again where it's I names Plus numbers and the numbers sometimes make sense or in this case may not make sense but I don't know it's I do wish the tech industry would be a bit more creative with their names what do you think the chances are I mean this is a silly question but so Apple moved away from I this yeah I do I add iPhone but now I do yeah when do you think that could ever possibly happen I don't know that's that would make sense given what they've been doing with it like everything else products services are all adopting the Apple name the iPhone is such a it's such a household name it is you know you it's hard for me to see them give up the the brand equity I just wonder I wonder if they painted themselves into a corner with like these ridiculous iPhone names where if in fact it is the iPhone excess max what the hell are they supposed to do next year the NX s max + - right Roman numeral - so in theory and know this isn't going to happen they could do a full refresh of the name call it the Apple phone next year and then the Apple phone - the year after rigging super simple super simple until they get to the tenth one and they name it the Apple phone X and ruin everything again and they go back to the iPhone iPod Classic will be the next year's model yes yes we saw year's Apple we've got you covered give me a time hey just reminder Microsoft did it first with the Xbox one xs+ oh oh yeah oh wait what XS well maybe exaggerating so yeah Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox one Xbox one X the X Box 1 X Tech naming conventions suck listen we're almost out of time but Ricky B says they should just start naming stuff and model by like model year like cars do yeah yeah yeah dacher is wondering if apples gonna do with the iPhone what they did with Mac OS and just start calling it OS X forever that is a treatise on smart way yeah yeah I mean they did that the iPad little while it's harder to do the year naming convention since you've got like two or three models each year now so it's not as simple as like the one model and keep in mind car models even though there's like the Honda Accord it's also the Honda Accord se or xn yeah there are multiple trims to those cars so yes they also have their own confusing name I have a Honda Accord XS max at home so it's also $1,000 over there thousand dollars it's all aluminium we the the concept of bad naming conventions the irony is not lost on this show so just want you guys oh yes oh one quick correction pointing out to you Roger that Black Panther was not the first African American superhero that credit goes to blade that's fair enough all right good point that was 20 years ago so that's like doesn't count anymore right not only did I actually say it was the first time I just said it was you said it was me oh yeah it was a big deal right cultural moment it was but credit where credit's due tre did it first and well Arthur given the fact that it was almost entirely african-american cast as opposed to blade there was more of a cultural significance I'm not gonna I'm not gonna downplay Blake cuz I actually like blade a lot I agree with you I agree they're just just just yanking your chain a little bit at a time we gotta go time for the week alright if you like this podcast is available on iTunes tune in stitcher feedburner google play music amazon alexa of course Tina calm we'll see you all next week you