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How does Face ID work? Apple lets us know (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 103)

2017-09-29
good morning and good afternoon everyone my name is Steven Beecham and you were watching the Apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom what's up everybody I see you I see you I hear you welcome to the show it's episode 103 Apple byte extra crunchy you know we keep it extra Munchie you guys gals crunch that crunch at beach that was weird that sounds weird yeah it was gross I heard what it sounds like when you eat now just thanks man print pretty team pretty team something like that all right okay everybody guys and gals you'll make this show what it is call us 1-866-376-8255 okis on photo and facial analysis this is a according to TechCrunch Apple does did confirm it by basically saying in quote Apple buys smaller technology companies from time to time and we generally do not discuss our purpose or plans now what makes Regained interesting and special is we know in case you haven't kind of played around with Apple's Photos app you can type in the word like in the search bar at the top you can type in dog you can type in sunset and it does have some ability to analyze photos and show you those types of photos on the spot but what regain does this kind of takes it to the next level and they've developed a computer vision API that can actually extract what they call game-changing insights and what do I mean by that well for example you might not you instead of saying a dog or sailboat or lion it's finding the specific one whether it's based on color even specific types of boats but I thought was really cool is it can actually detect faces duh but it can actually sort them by their emotion like happy sad maybe neutral or so it's kind of taking this not only do you have facial recognition of people now we can start talking about what their expressions actually are so it's getting even deeper and this could have some really cool implications because you know they talk about how can identify gender and age and emotion I'm not sure exactly what age meaning young or old that's interesting but this this these api's and this technology that they have could also unfortunately be applied to n emojis or or let's let's think bigger and think about just facial the the front-facing camera hopefully there's some more things that it can be that can be done with it beyond and emojis so can I be like find me a picture of my dog chasing a bird or something like that and you'll be able to find a dog chasing a bird like I'm seeing a picture right here there's like ah there's like some animal I think it's like an antelope or something oh that's a gazelle yeah and it's like it's running by some zebra or something so you can you can cut maybe get very granular and ask questions like that cuz I know Google does this and like I can ask you know I can like search like the beach and like Google photos and then it'll show me all the pictures of I took my family at the beach and you know I probably like a park or something or you know so this is a little more this is really cool yeah it is cool and the other place where this could come in handy I don't know how many of you guys and gals all use this but I use memories like way more than I ever thought I would that feature were they like mishmash a bunch of pictures and photos from a trip or an event man and I like I'm sorry like I'll keep it real with you sometimes I'm looking at that stuff and I'm getting a little I'm again a little emo I'm getting all up in my feelings sometimes when I look at that stuff I don't know about you but yeah it made one for my son which is crazy Google Google photos made one for my son so it's a lot of pictures of him growing up since he was a little baby and it got me you know when I was watching it but it's totally funny because the algorithm is still a little left up because I shot like this gangster rap video like last year and it keeps like appearing in there so it'd be like kids pictures of my kid at the park and like riding his bike and all of a sudden be like these two dudes are like doing gangster rally like a second oh you showed me that yeah yeah it did it again just like when the last like week or so it made another video here's the thing that you need to check you need to check if the memories if the memories video you that it made it could have actually been from a specific point in time and not just your like your son's might have been in a lot but it could say memories from the third week of July and that just happens to be in there that's why it might be in there could be could be yeah you're just saying so okay anyways yeah so it's it's cool though I really like this this is one of those small acquisitions we won't see but I just pray I pray so hard that they do more than an emojis with this acquisition of regained I'm just gonna I'm gonna put my hands together and just be like come on don't don't kill me with this all right so that's really cool another story that dropped early this week really pretty much I think just a day ago or so the FCC getting pressure from the National Association of Broadcasters is asking and not only asking urging Apple to protect the safety of Americans by activating the FM radio chip in iPhones now this is I think I'm for that I think I am climbing up I am totally for that here's the thing according to Apple based on the chips that they are using they are saying this is a quote and a response from Apple Apple cares deeply about the safety of our users especially during times of crisis and that's why we have engineered modern safety solutions into our products users can dial emergency services and access medical ID card information directly from the lock screen and we enable government emergency notifications ranging from weather advisories Amber Alerts etc etc iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 models do not have FM radio chips in them nor do they have antennas designed to support FM signals so it's not possible to enable FM reception in these products that is from Apple we know write FM radio that is an important way of communication and disseminating information because there's gonna be a time where these cell towers they're not gonna be working I know that in Houston they kept them up and running which was incredible and amazing right that was really the link that most people had but again you can't expect that in all different kinds of countries different types of situations where technology is not in place that is not nearly as advanced or the system just gets completely knocked out an FM radio old-school tech still matters yeah like they could definitely use that in Puerto Rico right now who has no communication and I don't think they have any electricity or anything but um yeah we've always been told by those wind-up radios you know and I have lined up radio but it would be awesome if I had my iPhone and I can just listen on my iPhone to use like solar powered or something during a natural disaster but that's a bummer that they can't just activate them well let me take let me take everyone back because it instantly when I heard FM radio and Apple saying that they couldn't do it it reminded me of a little ditty from back in the day called the iPod Nano now if you remember the iPod Nano the at least the 6th gen I'm not sure if the fifth gen can do it it was a little square right you could clip it on it had us Green the thing about this product is that you could listen to FM radio on the iPod Nano and let me tell you how and why you could do that when you plug the headphone into the headphone jack the headphone acted as the FM radio antenna that's genius that is all right what phones do not have a headphone jack that could support an antenna in the headphones that iPhone 8 and upcoming iPhone 10 so all I'm saying other companies are making great phones I'm not pooh-poohing on Apple right now everyone knows this people that listen this know we all are coming from the same perspective we love Apple we love technology but other companies are also doing things samsung has a headphone jack in a all screen OLED curved display that is also ip68 rated so it can go underwater has better water protection than Apple it has a headphone jack in there and they could support FM radio because they could plug that headphone in and use the wire of the headphone as the antenna that's a genius um so does Android do that now like I I really don't know I you know what off the top of my head I don't know but I believe I feel like they'll at least with the s6 and the s7 they had an FM radio app so I'm gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb and say yes but people that can correct us right now whether in the chat or not can tell us no but I just found that really funny how you know apple says yeah we don't have any way to support an FM antenna oh poor son that's really it's really smart that you figured that out man that's funny so um there there you go the request the request is in bring back the headphone we have a legit we have a legit need for it now big time the FCC all right as we talk about iPhone iPhone stuff a lot of issues have started to pop up we're gonna talk about some of these issues just to educate you all and just let you know what is going on the first one is specific to the iPhone 8 and 8 plus reports first started coming out of the verge that said hey there's a static noise issue that is affecting iPhone 8 and a-pluses specifically in the earpiece and Apple has confirmed that in that is true when you're on calls you might get this gnarly nasty static sound on your iPhone 8 knife own 8 plus they are working on a software fix it is not part of the latest updates that have been released but it is there it is a known issue that they're working to fix on and this is the other thing when we talk about iOS 11 a report recently came out that the adoption rate with iOS 11 is really is really advanced it typically is people that are Apple fans want to adopt it and just bring it on no matter what version of the phone you have and we got a lot of calls from this and I wanted to kind of answer it within the show of when is a good time to update your phone or what's the right time now iOS 11 up to this point and I think it has updated but the last time analytics were collected by Mixpanel it was around 25% of the user base of all iOS devices had updated to iOS 11 that seems small man one week after no do if you if you talk about Android because they're so fragmented they'll be under they'll be less than 1% oh I see yeah because people are really far back versions so I just clicked on a link the latest Mixpanel update says it's at 28 point five five percent of iOS users are on iowa's 11 but that also comes with its caveats with its issues and problems the biggest issue everyone is talking about it's what we want to talk about is battery life issues with your phone so people once they put on iOS 11 they were happy and I recall this happening honestly a little bit in iOS 10 where when you first installed iOS 10 battery life was really cruddy and what was happening it was optimizing your phone in your iOS behind the scenes but what we found is it's actually lasted longer than a few days and a lot of people that have iPhone 6 is iPhone 6s and some iPhone 7s but you don't hear it as much for my phone their battery life is literally going to crap now our security like when I say crap I'm talking about you could lose you could drop your battery within just a few hours like more than 50% some some crazy stuff like that is actually happening and this is not isolated a few people we put out the question out there on on the recent Apple bite video podcast and everyone's saying like Iowa's 11 is killing my battery only a few people said it didn't according to security research firm Wan Dara they analyzed the performance of 50,000 moderate to heavy iPhone users on iPhone and iPad that were both using iOS 10 and iOS 11 now there's a chart down there if you scroll down based on what they found and the results were not very glamorous or pretty at all devices on iOS 11 burn through power at a much faster rate than those running iOS 10 taking an estimated this is with use 96 minutes of use to drain a full battery this is like actively using it with iOS 11 versus 240 minutes for iOS 10 that's a big deal I've literally had people say I've been using my phone and it dropped from 100 to like 40 percent in a few hours I was using my phone last night and I dropped from 26% to like 5% it felt like in 45 minutes to an hour I'm like that's extreme that's that's really extreme so Apple did release a little update iOS 10 sorry excuse me iOS 11 point 0.1 that was to address a Microsoft Exchange server error with emails it hasn't addressed the actual battery life issues they've released a public beta for both iOS 11 Mac owes High Sierra 10.30 2.1 in TV OS 11.1 but i want it i don't know if people are writing comments in in the video in youtube and livestream but a lot of people are still telling me they have major issues specifically with their 6 and 6s yeah this this makes me scared to update I have an update in mind yet so I'm kind of gonna wait yeah I don't think you should I'm not going to because I have the 6s but I'm looking at the chat room I'm not seeing a lot of activity right now but people can snow you know I it's just that on our video we posted it everyone is coming out and saying I think the thing that and people had asked me this in the phone calls and we decided to kind of bundled in here this is kind of best way to think about when you upgrade your operating system and Apple has done that is been merciless in doing this I in general I really think the best the only type of phones that should get the latest software update that typically helps it perform better in general I'm saying is if you have a phone from the year before so if you're an iPhone 7 user I would say iOS 11 is an ok update now again it's actually been very buggy in general there's been a lot of like display alignment issues with iOS 11 where sometimes the time and the my signal just doesn't show up at the top it literally like on when I use male and when I'm using messages it's just completely white and I'm like what and there's a lot of things that are out there that people are talking about how much more buggy it is and we start to kind of see that in general and I think it's just because there's so many devices out there and also Apple is just doing too many things but if you have a phone that is 2 years or older compared to the iOS release so let's say you're on a 6s or 6 honestly would not recommend upgrading to the new operating system because it is typically hammered the performance of those devices that aren't Hardware wise as well-equipped and optimized to handle the newest stuff and the new bells and whistles that iOS the latest iOS demands I just don't think if you have a phone that's 2 years older or more you should really upgrade your phone in general because you're not gonna get as good performance you just aren't I've done it before it doesn't work as well yeah we're starting to get a lot of comments in the chat room now like divine feelings says iOS 11 is really killing my battery Daniel Byrne our Daniel Bernard says yep mine sucks now and then Justin loving says new operating system means bugs they'll never they'll get it worked out so I mean you know you've said I've learned this from listening to you Brian it's you know usually wait like a week or so before you do and I did I saw that they were already patch updates happening so I'm like okay they're fixing little things here and there so I might still wait like another week or two before I update my phone and then of course CNN L has all these videos like here's the changes you need to you know here's setting changes you want to make right away after you update me I mean they're usually helpful and like little you know little things you know they're helpful but then you cripple aspects of the phone like okay fine turn on your brightness that's normal but when you tell when you tell the phone don't fetch for email as often I mean if you're getting an email every second that's gonna be an issue and some people there's in the mail settings there's kind of an auto fetch right we love this every time an email gets sent and the server gets pinged we know about it it really shouldn't take up that much more battery if you leave the fetch feature on it just shouldn't kill your battery where you where you literally lose like 30 40 percent in a few hours like without really that sounds like a nightmare man you get to you know you get in your community one's already dead almost and then it you know what it and then people get pressuring upset and some people like wait was it me as my battery messed up is it what's going on that's why we have this lovely thing called the Internet imagine the days where the internet didn't exist where you can post something and like try and find out if other people are having the same problem right so this is a real thing and it's happening and so the classic thing is always off you have a phone that's two years old and you update the latest iOS it's gonna hammer your battery you're like I need to get a new phone and voila a new phone is out perfect I'm magic it's magical perfect timing brother alright so I just just be aware of what's going on with that before we take a break we do want to talk about a little bit of the iPhone X coming out we've talked about kind of how it could be pretty hard to get I think it's gonna be a lot harder than people think this is the latest reports are talking about how pre-orders are going to exceed the actual demand or sorry pre-order demand is gonna exceed the actual quantity that's going to be available for the iPhone 10 so let's talk about reports that are coming out of supply chain from multiple outlets it started with the Nikkei Asian review others picked up on it digit times Wall Street Journal but the Nikkei Asian review reports that yield rates basically the percentage of components that meet Apple's quality requirements is lower than expected for the 3d sensor part that is part of the whole true depth sensor at the top of the iPhone X so the 3d sensor is not being produced there's not enough in quantity that are being produced and what is what is happening is they're saying that they're basically producing complete phones somewhere less than 10,000 units per day now that might sound like a lot oh wow 10,000 phones but in actuality that's not a number that Apple tries to hit when they're saying hey we're in mass production we know that pre-orders are starting October 27th right so we're about a month away according to estimates based on this projection Foxconn has roughly made two million iPhone tens to date and they should expect to hit 10 million in October with 40 million total by the end of the year well a lot of projections of the pre-orders of the iPhone 10 based on people that held out and how many users are out there and ready to upgrade they're expecting it to be 50 at least around 50 million pre-orders for the iPhone 10 so what does that mean you might be on the pre-order but you're you're gonna get your phone sometime in the early 2018 that is a misnomer man so look you want to wait in line you might have to wait in line like legitimately a week just to get a chance to get that phone before anyone else and I'm gonna cross my fingers and hope that I can get in that group in that first batch of online but I bet you most of us are not I could be wrong but I bet you most of us are not yeah and a lot of people are not gonna get the color that they want they probably won't get the the correct storage size that they want like I saw a lot of people settling for the wrong color on the last iPhone so yeah rose-gold everyone'll get space gray whatever it was the it was the jet black or whatever the piano black finish that everybody wanted yeah yeah yeah I got it and I have a case on my phone and I never see it really never see it got me two serves no purpose whatsoever just a couple other quick iPhone 10 tidbits this was really cool Apple released a what they call like a white paper document detailing face ID specifically and I think this really gives some good insight on how face ID works and how it's a little different than others here's here's some of the interesting parts of it on the outline when face ID is disabled first of all so I'm gonna kind of go down the list when it will not work so here's here we go the device has been just turned on or restarted so face ID is disabled right you have to enter in your passcode the device hasn't been unlocked for more than 48 hours it'll instantly prompt the passcode the passcode hasn't been used to unlock the device in the last six and a half days and face ID hasn't unlocked the device in the last four hours if the device has received a remote lock command museum-like iCloud or after five unsuccessful attempts to match a face it will also lock you out as well as initiating a power off emergency SOS by pressing and holding either volume button unfortunately neither none of these conditions is what caused the Craig federighi phone to to hang up on you know I'm I'm just I'm honestly I think I think people walking by picking it up are the ones that screwed that one up honestly I think that's what happened I'm just I'm just digging in there some people are you me like dude what the hell man what you hate on apples so much I'm like it's a joke chill it's like chill these jokes hey so it has Apple done this before where they had to like put out like a giant explanation of how I I D you know their security works sometimes I think that face ID is so new and there's really a lot of questions around it that it's good to have an explainer there's there so I'll get into it after our break but there's times where I would like certain things explained that Apple doesn't touch on the key no and then we have to figure it out and find it out on our own like I hate that crap it's just it's it's annoying so here we go um we're also gonna I'll talk about kind of how Apple also describes we talked about sorry face ID and what what causes it to lock you out but here's kind of the technology of how it works under 8 so to counter both digital and physical spoofs meaning to prevent photos or masks from working the truth this is from Apple the true depth camera randomizes the sequence of 2d images and depth map captures and projects a device-specific random pattern now a portion of the a11 Bionic chip neural engine with a secure Enclave transforms this data into a mathematical representation and compares that to the face that is enrolled in the machine in the phone this enrolled facial data itself is a mathematical representation of your face captured across a variety of poses they go on to dig in a little deeper let me just pull up the document really quickly about how we talked about ok what if you're wearing makeup or what if you change your hairstyle it will actually match your previous face at least recognize that you have a new face let's say if I shaved off my my goatee or got I don't know if it can see my eyebrows let's say it sideburns let's say I shaved off my eyebrows it will at least actually match the previous image that has with it you new image be able to identify that that is your face and that there are some significant changes and then update it within their system when it looks at it and then it'll take a picture and send it to regrain as I'll I browse photos and be in the searchable regrain database it does confirm that this works with hats scarves glasses contact lenses many sunglasses furthermore it's designed to work indoors outdoors and even in total darkness yeah you know when when you're saying it sends like is it a throwaway code like you're saying it sends a specific like some sort of patter I talk to updated they so I there's must be some sort of authentication going on with that as well they didn't they did they kind of threw that out and it didn't dig into it deep enough but it's really interesting and like people are saying manna fro Shamal in the in the room is asking like really curious how would work with twins I mean there's even still subtle differences between twins but I'm really curious how it actually works like with twins twins twins definitely they look different as they age older but I got we got to do twins using face ID I I know some twins we can get in here yeah I know some triplets but that'd be hard to round them up cuz they're all over the country but um this kind of reminds me of Apple pay where you know it sends like a throw away one time used code for when you're using your phone to buy purchase something it kind of sounds similar like they're using like the same logic around that I don't know it sound familiar to you I'm not sure but like I guess I just don't understand you know they didn't get into it but what was that randomised pattern that is built off of your doesn't project something on your face that aligns with what is in the system yes but what exactly is that pattern that they referred to I don't know I really don't know yeah weird but it's it gives it shed some light on what makes it really interesting and what makes it very specific so look again no matter how cool that tech is I still think it's gonna be a little slower than touch ID it just has to be right now yeah it it but it'll be interesting well so we'll see I I it is the most intriguing part of the iPhone 10 and it's just gonna come down a day to day use and how it works out okay so my friend should we get to our lovely sponsor let's do it my friends audible in the house support today is for this show comes from our friends inaudible audible content includes an unmatched selection of audiobooks original audio shows news comedy and more from the leading publishers broadcasters entertainers and business information providers now unlike a streaming or rental service with the audio 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life on this Apple watch is dope I've been able to get through an entire day easily and a lot of these reviewers they were just trying to max it down like ah you won't really get through a day yeah because you're trying to like put it through it's rigged the test but I want to use it in my daily life I take phone calls on it I text message back and forth I used it at the gym for an hour while listening to music and from 9 a.m. to basically 9 p.m. I still had 22% of battery left on it I was like impressed that's pretty good I used I used the crap out of it another day I had like 30% on it just depends on how much you actually use it so that's one of the highlights it's killer for workouts but I think the biggest issue that when we talked about Apple being transparent or explaining some of these technologies in their documents when they pitch the Apple watch they said hey it's gonna be able you're gonna be able to send and receive messages and we had found after going through it that and asking Apple for official confirmation is that if you have your phone with you and you're next to the iPhone I've started the Apple watch you're going to be able to get AI messages and SMS messages from non iPhone users that makes sense but if your phone is often you're away from your phone and your watch is connected to LTE and lt only not Wi-Fi or anything like that your your Apple can only accept iMessages no non-iphone SMS messages can get to you on your on your Apple watch that way which is I have a lot of people that are on Apple you know Apple hardware but you know there's there's other people that do not have iPhones and if you want to get message from you won't the other thing though that kind of work around that is that if you keep your phone on at home when you're away you should be able to and we've tested this you'll be able to receive SMS messages and I messages so ultimately just don't just have your phone on whenever you're away wherever you go and it'll be okay so just have it sitting on the room just have to be connected to Wi-Fi or anything like that yeah on your phone it has me on connect really connected to the cellular network but it it sounds silly but it is really like when I was working out and I was like listen to music in my wireless headphones and I was worried you know it's like like pump in that iron bro like sweatin but then you sweat but then you like get a text message you respond to it you take a call while you're listening like when everything is literally on your wrist and it and it and it does work for those moments it's crazy man it's like wow I felt like although I can't use it for everything I felt like it was it's legit in that way and if you're someone that's looking for that you're gonna be happy with it it's the actual there's other caveats there but I think it's it's not for everyone but if you like to work on you like to be on the go and you want to do that once in a while it's pretty big it's pretty sweet but most the time everyone has their phone with them the thing that I missed the most by going all Apple watch is that there are times where I I don't have my camera on and our phone is our camera and because it is it really makes the phone necessary to bring with you like if you care about social media or you're on snapchat or Instagram stories or all that stuff you want your camera with you well you can't move around with an Apple watch without a camera so I think most people will just have their phone with them and if that's the case don't get an LTE Apple watch just get a series three if you want up great or you'll honestly like more than happy with the Apple watch series too and I think for a lot of people honestly even if you have a series one unless you want the speed bump which is great and the Siri interact ability with this is awesome now I've never been the biggest fan of Siri but it does work great on the Apple watch series 3 because of the power it allows you to do it natively on the device it's it's worth the upgrade so it it's it's really a truly a device that's not for everyone and it never was in the first place so it just depends on really what's your use case but it's it's a good product it's a good product that is a bummer about the photos though I mean when you're out and about you see stuff randomly you just want to take a picture that's a you know that's exactly saying that is a bummer the good does all right get that together give me that giving it give me that dope camera on there just to get it be like get that perv camera on there p.m. all right um let's just jump into the calls I think we're just gonna skip some stories because we just want to crank through your calls because we don't want to we don't want to make the show too long Balt lives cool yeah alright thank you guys for all calling we had a lot of good voicemails we had a lot of voicemails this week but we narrowed it down to some of the highlights so here we go penny Beach what's up Kong it's mean J Mack from Brooklyn we'll have the show love everything you guys are doing so check it I just got home after getting the Super Nintendo classic waited like about five hours in line and after doing that I'm thinking about the iPhone 10 with that said if I forego doing thing up for the pre-order what are my chances of getting it like a week or two afterwards or Brian do you think it's just better to wait till 2018 for the next set of iPhones given all the new rumors leaking out for two sizes of o LED panels and so forth anyone looking forward to your answer keep it going guys love the show peace I think it depends on what phone you have right now if your if it's worth upgrading for you or not if you have an iPhone 7s and you're not really excited about the 10 I'm sorry when I say 7s you know an iPhone 7 I don't think you need upgrade right now I think you're gonna hold out because it's it's it's a nice upgrade but you know I I'm gonna get the 10 I'm not gonna lie to you all but I feel like it's a 9.5 instead of a 10 I really feel like it's the iPhone 9.5 because I couldn't get that under the glass fingerprint sensor that's okay that they couldn't but I feel like this is more like an iPhone 9.5 so if you have a 6 or 6s and you're really looking to make a big jump then do it but if you're on a 7 and you're kind of like I think most people are excited about the 10 and then they realize I'm probably gonna spend $1400 for this thing and then they realize it's it's hard I think it's a it's hard it's just like what it's just like what people have said imagine if the 10 didn't come out and all Apple had to offer was the iPhone 8 and 8 plus like literally Apple would have been hammered by by pressed media it was it's basically an iPhone 7 with a glass backing and a little bump it's it's kind of bad you know but they did that they knew that what's happening so that's why they got the 10 out yeah so I think he might end up having to wait til early 2018 anyway it's based on the story we talked about it earlier where you know they're not gonna be available right away unless you're get in real fast on that internet on the pre-order on the internet so truth true good luck on that one man okay here we go next call this is Brian from Boston he's trying to ask about equipping devices with lanyards like when I am my iPod Nano broke I got a refurbished from the Apple Store iPod Touch 5th generation because it has lanyard and I guess they don't make the new ones with that but then I realize the old remotes for the Apple TV's you can actually like put in a lanyard and the lighting cord so it so it works kind of like how the Wii remotes work and I was just wondering I wonder if they could like put the put a linear like that a lightning port for other devices like if you're running with your iPhone and stuff what make it more secure I just thought that would be easy thing that could do all right thanks that that scares me like running running with a lanyard in your lightning port of your phone hanging off your neck I will tell you that a company called canoe that made this really cool kind of mini tripod stand they have what they use to get inside of your phone is like a plastic kind of tip that goes inside the lightning port well what can happen is as it wears out it over time it sometimes can actually get stuck and broken in there because it it creates such a sturdy connection like I actually had one that got stuck in there and I had to like extract it with like literally like a I got pin to like poke it and pull it out and so to get a really true sturdy connection that lightning port what is out there is just not you just can't do it I you're better off wearing an actual lanyard necklace with the iPhone in a pouch if you really want to run with it that way now if you're someone who wants to put on your wrist then get a case with a wrist strap but I wouldn't trust a lightning lanyard port anything on any of my devices yeah that sounds dangerous and it has anyone else noticed that the Lightning port kind of you get it gets loose you know like my cable kind of pulls out real easily now and it gets jostled and sometimes they'll be plugged in it's not even charging because it's loose in there that seems to be happened to me a lot too so I'd imagine that would happen with one of those little lanyard things he's talking about so man if I had Photoshop I could make a really funny gif of what you just did well I'm sure one of the fans like oh yeah all right hey be careful be careful you know who you're with this is Beach and Tom baby Internet is dangerous man ok next call here we go did I replay this do know Charles Patterson I was just wondering what do you think about the have the carrier's their new Apple watch is not getting every carrier in the world like in Australia there's only two of them main ones and then the rest are still coming thanks hmm it's only a few carriers so what it is it really comes down to technology I like how he just called and they said his name is like boom so he answers the phone like well I'm gonna start to psych the phone to I'm gonna be like Steven Beecham to talk so what the answer to question is the ECM technology is actually not compatible with all carriers it's not and that obviously it's not an actual chip it's built into the device it is it takes up less space but because of that there's less because of the less space right it's a different kind of chip and so it doesn't support all the bands it doesn't support every carrier out there it's still new and so that's why you don't see it with with the Apple watch you don't see across the board carrier coverage it's really more of the technology and not because they haven't struck deals with the carriers yet okay cool all right we got two more okay I just wanted to give a shout out thanks for always putting these out but um just wanted to know what's cool about ionic 11 so far I think it's pretty great yeah I am noticing that every time just a little bit every time we push out a software update it gets a little more buggy I mean it used to be you can always expect bugs when iOS comes out every year but it's getting a little more like you can and I'm not gonna say although Steve Jobs is rolling over but like it comes to the point where it's it are noticing a little bit of attention to detail drop but not much I still love iOS 11 C good but I think it has a great point I that's C that's a legit balance like look at things and that's that's the type of stuff that we appreciate it's it is more buggy than we've seen before and it's it's not horrible I think the biggest issue really like we talked about is the battery life that is affecting a lot of people not just like 10 percent or 20 percent I feel like it's affecting like 50 percent of users if not more but to his point yes iOS 11 in general is bug you're like literally when I'm in the mail app my my wife I am battery in time disappear like what is that all about that's never happened ever before and there's been some weird alignment issues even with your notifications and all this up it's it's I don't I don't know what's going on there and it just the quality control in general it's a combination of yeah them doing too many things but it has dropped off it there's no there's no bones about it it's dropped off it's gotta be hard to do man I mean there's so much stuff in iOS now it just keeps getting bigger it's like a it's like a universe it's just expanding and expanding the span yeah and they have to like somehow refine that and then make it different and make and prove it and then put it into a new you know it's like a new hardware it just seems like a really daunting task so I'm surprised it even you know it even works 90% of its like a better credible you know player profile in on our periscope he had talked about how his screen will sometimes just go black with iOS 11 and he's updated it player profile in also earlier while we were taking call says oMG who screens these phone calls we both do as a team all right okay we got one left and it's a shorty kind of here we go Tyler McCarty hey guys wanted to touch base with you guys out here in the beautiful Atlanta Georgia Hotlanta hey my question is in regards to the Apple watch I'm getting ready to receive my new Apple watch Series 3 with LTE and I've seen where you guys have talked about needing the ear pods although I know that do I wait and give the air prize later on whenever they upgrade to the you know charging wireless charging thing they've displayed at the keynotes I've already got the power beats 3 and I know that they should sync with my Apple watch but just want to hear your feedback on it appreciate the show guys enjoy y'all goin freedom I feel like you question man freedom yeah if he does the power beats 3 you know he already has a more than capable headphone set that syncs over to the Apple watch that uses the w1 chip that is super fast and responsive if you if you have money to burn yeah go ahead and get him now but I would I would just wait it out like you already have great headphones that work just fine yeah but if you look there there is an appeal like you said Beach like you kind of got sucked in the whole thing like damn I kind of want Apple earpods I don't they look really dorky but I kind of want them right I totally do so you'd be like that one dude that was in line for five hours for the NES classic and then that now he's ready to get in line for the iPhone X no iPhone X just you know just go spend money baby just do it baby so I think you're fine where you're at but you know I have work out I have the I do have the power beats three the ones like over my ears for for working out at the gym but the air pods actually sound better than them so I'm gonna be with you I'm not a big fan of those that hook over your ear like they just go fine I am I am fine fine I am uncomfortable for me I don't know I don't dig him I want the air pods alright that's it Brian we're done man all right bro uh remember everybody you guys and gals can call us at
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