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Beecham all right so let's jump it in the show and we know that this month is the iPhones 10th anniversary month at least from when it went on sale and so there's a lot of cool things that are starting to happen around it this article was originally posted in the Wall Street Journal but because we don't have a subscription to it I know we're not going to be able to show it but we wanted to talk about what the Wall Street Journal did and I thought was really fun and interesting they wanted to chart the approximate total lifetime sales of of a range of like the best selling products of all time and this kind of gives you an idea and perspective of where the iPhone ranks so they have this graph here and they show they list off things like like we're time out iconic devices right the Sony Walkman the Barbie dolls the Zippo lighter you had a Barbie doll hell yeah I know you do I know how you roll ain't no shame in his game so the Sony Walkman topped out this is total sales lifetime of sales topped out at a little over 200 million units it took 30 years to do that all right too hundred million the Zippo lighter let's talk about this more than half a billion sales but that and it climbed over but that took what a period of more than 80 years you have other things like the Rubik's Cube which looks like it hit about what is it 400 million around the 35w 78 is year mark but look at the iPhone okay in that chart if you're listening it's fine it's up at the top basically in ten years the iPhone is at 1.2 billion units sold in under 10 years that's amazing is that ridiculous it is ridiculous so that makes it the top selling product of all time right that is that is crazy it's amazing so that's what we're talking about here this is what we've got um just a beast of a product and then if you won't even just talk about how the iPhone itself transformed Apple as a company did a comparison and showed how Apple grew from 2007 to you know versus when they actually launched the actual phone so let's say in 2016 Apple's employs 18,000 in 2016 116,000 like building space 6.8 million square feet versus twenty nine point three million square feet in 2016 sales 19 point 3 2 billion in 2006 two hundred and fifteen point six four billion dollars in sales of to that in 2016 I mean that's just obviously explosive growth and what is the math on that 20 billion to 215 billion that's like about what a ten hundred percent or so yeah yeah close to close to something like that probably on a nine hundred percent gain that's that's that's a little insane but it obviously just shows you how incredibly successful the iPhone was right we it makes up around 66 percent of their sales today somewhere around 60 to 70 percent so that that's gonna that's gonna be a big deal so in addition to that we also have some cool stuff surrounding the 10th anniversary iPhone now if you don't remember who's Scott Forstall was he was the man kind of in charge and lead iOS development he was also the kind of the fall guy when Apple had their whole debacle with Maps how they are you know not only were they at the time more inaccurate they had like weird three renderings of different landmarks that was just all out of whack and so what was really cool is the Computer History Museum in Mountain View they did a one-on-one interview with Scott Forstall to talk about his time at Apple but really to talk about the iPhone and so I don't know if we have it queued up right now I got it we got a baby alright so Scott Forstall here is sitting down at the Computer History Museum and we got to give them props for letting us use this video to talk about kind of some of the origins of the actual iPhone so check it out some out a three-minute clip or so oops sorry I started more time real quick here we go how did you either find your way to the iPhone or how did the iPhone find its way to you ah the iPhone had a very circuitous route by itself I mean I at that point was running like Mac os10 tyrany to the releases at that point and and we've been working on a tablet project which has a really odd beginning uh it again because Steve hated this guy at Microsoft that that is the actual origin was it wasn't Bill cuz he was starting to like go by this point uh it was a Laureen had a friend his so Steve's wife had a friend who's married to a guy who worked at Microsoft every time Steve had any social interaction that guy who'd come back just pissed off yeah I mean it wasn't it was not in like Microsoft's like you know it's not good for them that he ever saw him uh he came back one time after seeing this guy and that guy was talking about how Microsoft had soul computing he solved like net uh like a laptop computer or they were going to do laptop or tablet computing and they're gonna do with pens and he just like shoved in Steve's face the way they were going to like rule the world with their new tablets with their pens and Steve came in on Monday and and there was a set of expletives uh and and that it was like let's show them how it's really done it's like the first thing is they're idiots you don't use a stylus you know it's cumbersome you lose it you're always like picking up and putting it down you were born with ten styluses style eyes so like lets me use the ones that you don't de sel uh and and so he's like and it's this uh time touchscreens were resistive touch resistive requires you to sort of deform the screen you have to push it down so if you look at it like text in everything looks bad it's it's really tiring on your finger i said we need to do capacitive touch and asking multi-touch so we went to the hardware team and basically said like go do this and they started and the design team started building designs around this idea of multi-touch and it was pretty interesting i remember one of the first demos of this you walked into a room there's a giant giant table there's a projector on the ceiling and you can like you see the photo or something on on the table and you can move your finger around the table and it would move the photo a super cool wouldn't fit in you know your your bathroom much less your pocket or your your you know baguette i guess we don't have it ah but the moment you saw that you knew this was the way to go like that was that was cool awesome very cool so really right they were thinking about the ipad before the iphone yeah and he later on goes on to talk about how Hindman Steve Jobs were sitting down at lunch and they were looking around they realized dude everyone's using a phone and then they also started talking about how they didn't like how they didn't find any pleasure or joy and actually using a phone and so that is the roots of how then Steve Jobs said okay well let's take all this that we've done double up our efforts to get this multi-touch capacitive touch tablet thing ready and then shrink it down into the size of something that fits in our pocket yeah that's that that so it's really cool how it really it had I mean I've known this but this is fun to hear four stalls accounts of it yeah I thought it was really fascinating how he just blatantly you know comes out blainley it was like we started building the iPad because Steve Jobs just hated this dude was annoying him to death so it's a such a SJ thing quietly it's like you know he's angry and like we got to show him how it's done you know but um they were also worried right after that where it ends right there he says this is really cool they also were were a lot of people know this already but they were worried about some products coming out cutting into the iPod sales you know sales numbers whatever so you know that was also a big reason to go with the phone because they just turned the phone into an iPod eventually which is happen today well you know we don't see them the iPod the iPod Classic and iPod Touch still exist but yeah you know they've never said that they've killed off the iPod Touch although everyone's like um yeah an iPod Touch kind of dead it's kind of on the baggy it's pretty much yeah you know it's it's not I would be really shocked if we ever see an update to that I would be really shocked yeah we would surprise us yeah totally but it's just funny how they're worried about something is another you know another company cutting into iPod sales that are like we'll just kill the iPod with our own product yeah yep the iPhone it's good business and it's pretty interesting but that whole interview is great like there's other stuff he talks about like when he's scuba diving with sharks and he got like a cool shot of his brother like getting attacked by a shark and the shark attacked him and just lots of cool stuff like I watched the whole thing and it was it's really fascinating go check it out Computer History Museum yeah they have a YouTube channel and they also have a Facebook page where they post the clips I'm just a lot of stuff behind the scenes of what happened in Apple so you know that's kind of talking about just what is going on around the 10th anniversary you're gonna see a lot more things kind of pop up just because everyone is talking about in look there's a lot of anticipation around the iPhone 8 aka 10th anniversary iPhone just a quick thing about the current iPhone or what Virgin Mobile is doing some of you may or may not have heard about this but virgin is offering this kind of crazy plan specifically for the iPhone they're calling it their inner circle plan and basically what it comes down to I know just listen this at first they're offering a year of unlimited data and calls with the purchase of a new iPhone for $1 dude I might do this yeah you might but then let me break this down for you okay but there's like a flight no hotel involved - there's like there's basically to sweeten the deal right you get the first year is unlimited talk text and messages you also get perks like a free companion ticket for a round-trip flight to the UK on virgin right there man that's like the cost of an iPhone right there that's that's pretty pretty sexy okay of course there are going to be some there's this is competition right this is kind of crazy right of course there's gonna be some caveats of this the data you'll have like up to 23 gigs of data and then it'll throttle down like most most users doing that also any type of mobile video the the caveat from what I've read is that the streams are going to be limited to 480p resolution for any video mobile downloads which is kind of cool kind of do do also this is a promo that last for one year after that year it will be $50 per month so that'll be the plan that you pay for your carrier plan and then beyond that if you do get another phone after two years of service you'll then be able to lock in again for a six month plan for one dollar if you buy an upgrade to a new phone in two years but the biggest catch about this Beecham it's on Virgin Mobile version which is not as good as like basically Sprint so who knows if you're like right near a tower and you live in an area that is very sprint heavy I think this is a great deal I got a look on the Brightside 223 gig you said was their cap yes ATT is 22 gigs so then one gig more one point one extra gig one gig more one gig more I'm getting $50 a month that's about the same as an AT&T carrier plan - gently - yeah mines mines expensive I'm paying like after fees like 80 bucks a month that's that's what I'm paying - and that's with our with our special special discounts corporate discount so $50 is nice again you're gonna have to explore this okay let's uh we're going to blast through some of these because they are rumors but there's things worth mentioning in the iPhone 8 world according to a report from Reuters they say the iPhone 8 is creating worldwide shortages of DRAM and NAND chips but this is affect because of the demand that our suppliers that have locked in deals and Apple's buying up all these components for their iPhone 8 launch people that have been affected according to the report companies like LG who have pushed up their quarterly purchase decisions by about a month to get ahead of this to try and get their hands on these components for their phones and in addition I thought this was interesting they said the lack of components and the component shortage in general is directly linked to limiting production of the Nintendo switch Oh No if this is true no fans sorry sorry bra like you want that switch or you want that iPhone eight I know which one I'm leaning towards oh yeah definitely iPhone 8 I mean the switch is dope and it's getting more games but come on that's so that that's one of the reasons for the delay they also talked about how Sony is prioritizing orders from Apple for their camera sensors we know that Apple's camera guess one of the best but I'm the pixel and the Samsung Galaxy phones have I think they've kind of nudged up us a little bit but if we're talking about their portrait mode the apples portrait mode is money so um that's an office also their optical zoom that's nice and other phones are going to be doing more things like that but um that is one of the stories that is around the iPhone eight also there are more leaks from the ultimately car not in Asian leader hey y'all is it an Asian leader it's probably an Asian leaker linked to Benjamin Gaskin but he posted more shots of components and parts of the new iPhone 8 front panel hmm I you know when I look at this I'm this was this is really what the phone's gonna look like but I just from a design standpoint I don't understand why they don't just make that entire top bar black like on the actual front panel they've shown shots of like the l3 yeah right it has like they've shown shots where it's believed and again this is all off a rumor that that notch on the top which the sensors when you have your just your wallpaper on it'll form around it but I think it doesn't look as clean just make it a thin black line across it you're right it doesn't look it doesn't look very clean like there it does kind of give this effect though that it's like filling in this you know it does look it looks janky to me it's just kind of like funny so whatever works being critical because parts are out there that we can see and Apple hasn't even made this official announcement and then another quick thing is that on Mac rumors websites they said based on their web analytics they have detected devices that are most likely iPhone eights that have just been pinging their site once in a while not too many but that they are under testing you know from Cupertino locations in Sunnyvale and San Francisco so they're there web analytics show that they've been pinged by an unknown device running iOS 11 nice kind of cool so it's cool how forensic guys can find that stuff yeah oh we leave that up to them and then they publish and then we find out about it so you know we're talk about like Asian leakers yeah and just leaks lovely okay you love we we we would imagine we you know the funny thing is colors haven't retaliated yet it's just interesting yeah it's gorgeous it's bright we're keeping it light um leaked record so Apple recently held held this kind of like a summit or like a briefing with employees that was all about you know how to not get information out to the public they're trying we've always heard Tim Cook saying we're doubling down on secrecy so the briefing that was held at Apple's headquarters was called stopping leakers keeping confidential at Apple but how do we know this the story was leaked as the story was leaked by website the outline it was an audio recording of the entire briefing that details what Apple told its employees about keeping secrets then there had to be an Apple employee who was in the meeting huh and they probably got paid for it right to give up this information but it talked about you know the different ways that Apple is working with intelligence agencies like the NSA law enforcement like the FBI the Apple with to paraphrase some of the stuff that happened in here they did it is said that Apple and some of their head security execs spoke to roughly a hundred attendees and this seminar slash briefing was expected to be given to other employees throughout the company it started with videos with shots of Tim Cook talking to Apple employees but what is interesting some of the other details that came out of that out of it is they said in 2016 more leaks came from Apple's campuses so we're talking about maybe story or information leaks versus parts leaks from factories like Foxconn one more leaked and that makes if you think about it actually does make sense we Stussy like part leaks but how many times do we get stories about Apple stuff going on like every week yeah all the time constantly everybody so Foxconn and and the manufacturers have got the leaks taken care of or how about gonna block more better better mo better mo better mo better lockdown yeah mo better lockdown but then in Apple's headquarters it's just a leaky they still haven't put all the walls on the base they'll have a lot of Asian leakers at Apple's headquarters for the record I've never used the term Asian leak or definitely bTW cuz he has because I have the right to you could say white leakers Wensley kerza I think like term leaker Anglo Saxon leakers so um so that would that happened and that basically was like the summary was like keep secrets guys like just don't tell them our secrets another nugget about when you talked about referencing Foxconn in the seminar the BRE it was quoted or it was said that Apple actually the process of screening these people that are coming in and out of Foxconn is even more stringent than what the TSA does oh yeah and you could imagine that actually totally right yeah so trade secrets are a big deal I mean we start out with with uber like stole trade secrets from young ghouls Wyatt yeah the way my driving car stuff like that's a big like that's huge a new corporate espionage that's no joke let ain't no joke and ain't no joke we know Joe so anyways the keeping secrets um keeping Apple confidential or whatever the name of that seminar was skit that sighs love how was leaked it was the seminar was leaked I smell a new skin for Apple by Apple confidential not a movie called something company la la College sure did Ted you gotta have my CI do a parody now Apple confidential confidential who's the leaker it wasn't me it was either not be any tapes you like tweet there better not be any tapes my conversation Tim Cook tweets that out it's it's it's a done deal all right let's talk about IMAX there's a lot of buzz around the IMAX I you know they they recently have started rolling out I know they're available after um the keynote much like the iPad pros came out like a week later after the keynote crap sorry okay I'm just listening cool me all right I see autoplay is what messes us up it's not it's in the world people that are complaining about like what's going on with the show it autoplay is a pain in the butt I don't plays the form of leaking stuff or I want us you know bad example haha you know actually not an accurate example but try it we're on the cuff guys come on so uh the iMac Pro this is really cool we know that big bad boy that's starting at like $5,000 according to specs that were released by Pike's Universal a blog that also actually leaked out the earlier specs of the new iMac 27-inch based on what they believe the iMac Pro right up to an 18 core Intel Xeon processor we know that top of the line Radeon Pro Vega graphics and up to 4 terabytes of store SSD storage up to 120 gigs of serum they said that this actual processor is most likely not going to be powered by you know the latest skylake processors that we expect to come but instead intel's next-generation server grade skylake e^x and skylight EP processors so there we're not talking about just the normal standard processor you're getting in your machine server grade processors from Intel in the new iMac Pro which is pretty exciting and maybe at least in some people's minds helps justify putting down $5,000 for an iMac Pro yeah I mean I'm actually reading me I was just like blown away I'm just curious about how well this will actually sell like I actually don't think I think it's a I think it's a powerhouse machine we talked about how you know just looking at the entire picture of how they're now developing a modular kind of tower based or you know swappable card Mac Pro and I know that this was really their vision of what the Mac Pro was going to be I'm just curious how many people will actually buy it because there is value there but again it's most Pro users want to have the custom customization you know when they're using high-end apps yeah for sure you want to be able to put stuff in different cards and people are like oh whatever it's just RAM and hard drives I'm like no we're talking about like sound capture cards we're talking out video cards yeah we're talking about rendering cards like there's so many you know raid or raise that you want to put in your computer there's so many different upgrades beyond just RAM and hard drive space yeah totally but I do see what Apple is trying to do too because everything is going in the cloud like Adobe Premiere cloud service and all that stuff you know it makes sense but you're right I mean right now people want to be able to upgrade and put new put cards in and all that stuff so I've just see how it pans out $5,000 though that's that's happy well you better be a pro user she's gonna buy that I mean you better not be using that for word processing yes all I'm gonna say in addition to Pike's Universal and they also talked about how the iMac pro is coming with a security Enclave processor but why is that important that could indicate that there could be some type of touch ID functionality with the iMac pros Apple didn't talk about it at the keynote they said that these iMac pros are coming out in December so you obviously know lots of things could change or be added it doesn't mean that we'll see touch ID on the new my Mac Pro but in the firmwares in the firmware that they funneled through they did find indications that so it could be maybe it could be sure I'm just saying maybe could be I'm in other iMac news the new 27-inch iMac that just came out with the with the latest processors was also just recently benchmark by Geekbench I know that people always say all benchmarks don't matter I like to look at benchmarks just to get a general idea of how products match up with others in general I don't take them I'm not the type of person that's like oh it has the fastest benchmarks that means it's the best machine or best phone that's not what it comes down to but it gives you an idea of how well it's improved and how it compares to others the new 27-inch iMac pro iMac is basically has graphics performance they've talked about that and 80% uptick in graphics performance compared to the previous iMac Pro Wow because the graphics performance on the one I have now is amazing yeah so if it's gonna be 80% better like I can't even imagine what that's gonna look like that's and that's part of it using you know are having the option for an AMD grat Radeon card that with discreet graphics that's going to obviously make a difference but it wasn't there before so even if you talk about just kind of like general performance and whatnot they talked about how single core performance increased up to nine percent compared to the equivalent model from really 2015 multi-core performance increased up to 15% when compared to an equivalent model so this is just overall yes it should be a more powerful machine it is and you're getting a huge jump in graphics performance which helps across the board amongst multiple apps not just like oh how does I move seen my desktop windows look I don't know it's way more than that so anyways that's it that's a good sign uh we're gonna transition a little bit just I don't know I saw this story earlier this week and I liked it a lot we know about Apple's AR kit right they showed it off at WWDC 2017 and how it uses just all the current hardware on your phone IKEA who has who is doing a partnership that Tim Cook in a recent Bloomberg article said that Apple and IKEA have some sort of a partnership but they didn't really go into detail with it IKEA then later announced that they're doing their own dedicated AR kit app that will roll out in the future and what it basically does is you can see around 500 to 600 of IKEA products and basically superimpose them or using augmented reality see what it might look like at your home that's awesome with a device you own already at home weren't they doing this with the IKEA catalog like a flea they have something similar to it already yeah but I think it's what it is just being able to just pop it on right with your home phone in your house and being able that's that's pretty sick this makes a lot of sense because I recently read an article that IKEA like they have these giant buildings right oh yeah Regan's mat rat maze yeah so they're looking to downsize like they want to get rid of all this point floor space again will have a smaller more boutique shops oh and they're gonna move everything into the cloud I mean this whole thing with Apple is like IKEA stores are gonna be a are with Apple you know like yeah feels like that's the whole move that's going so they could save money not have to pay air-conditioning on these giant buildings it's a great place to go anytime you know it's a great place to go when it's hot and I mean come on the Swedish meatballs you can't go yeah come on yeah let's let's talk let's talk about that also yeah you're right the here in the story it talks about how and I've never done this but an earlier version basically allowed users to scan pages of an IKEA catalog to view a our furniture not necessarily basically establish what the room looks like in place in the spot and rotate around they said Apple's platform will greatly increase the consistency and quality of the experience so around 500 and 600 products will be available at launch they did not give us an exact time of when the app will come out but um it might be coming out maybe later this fall around the time of the phone that's someone who just removed into an apartment a few months ago that's awesome that's important yes important all right no it's even more important emoji we'll stop people are still listening emoji unicode ten point O of the Unicode standard is official now we've talked about like a lot of different emojis and how they like kind of preview what's coming out they officially announce that there will be 56 new emojis available this is a variety of them that we're seeing here but some of them include like a puke-face like a ferry both male and female versions Wizards both male and female vampires um sandwich like make I'm gonna text to Steven make me a sandwich alright there's pubic ones gross also got a represent you know the traditional traditional Asian things like a takeout box or portion cuts an American thing yeah very good Steven very guy I know my Asian culture he knows his Asian persuasion so um oh the breastfeeding emoji oh that's super important sorry guys breastfeeding emoji so anyways these are these aren't expected to come are not expected to roll out immediately with iOS 11 just because the timing of this but we probably expect them to see them sometime in like iOS 11 point one or point two we've seen Apple roll out the new emoji sets later on and honestly everyone gets super excited so don't just we are God can we opt out so I don't think you can you want I'd like to opt out I don't know what anymore modes as there's a lot Rain Man so many nice and even my favorites page yeah like dude eggplant eggplant sports squirt squirt dude I took my kids to see the new uh on Mars movie oh yeah yeah and they have an emoji movie and I got I know I know I saw the billboard you want to watch the trailer no I have the trailer maybe after the show I I really don't want to get mad I got really pissed I was like are you kidding me emojis are done emojis are know emojis are life bro no I just don't want to see Jaime Lerner is like the main character of the emoji of the main emoji come on let's just watch it roll I can't I can't I can't no okay wait here you had it pulled up terrible look who just sent me Zacks daddy McAlister what should I say just play it cool welcome all right this is good people that are listening people all you need to see the hata people that are listening have no idea what just happened it just wasn't via sony Columbia Pictures emoji movie with starring TJ Miller look there any unlike we've seen this before any movie can be made like quite honestly bird look transformers my childhood the movies are not very good but they make so much money they still keep making them in unfortunately I'm gonna be honestly I just don't keep watch you know and I know they're bad but I just want to watch him the latest one got zero stars from Rolling Stone why not yeah zero stars they say it's the worst movie of all like possibly all-time well that you know what's sad about that though technically it should be one of the best movies the reason being is it's the first movie ever to use IMAX 3d cameras so they basically created this is just inside baseball but I know you nerds love this they created a camera rig specifically of two IMAX cameras Wow so yeah stereos yes max that's so all the particles and all that stuff are true to the camera so I thought that was very really honestly the only reason why I wanted to see it is see does it really make that much of difference because an IMAX 3d like Marlon in IMAX 3d oh my gosh I so excited I can't contain myself contain it alright I'm back on to a few other things in the show this is kind of crazy this is cool Chicago they're opening a new Apple Store and what do you think the roof is gonna look like how about it's gonna look like a MacBook Pro on the roof is according to DNA info who's taken some exterior shots of this store that is still under construction this is now going to be located in Pioneer Court at 401 North Michigan Avenue it literally looks like a laptop which slapped on top of the store it has the Apple logo on it I've got to imagine that logos gonna glow oh here's here's the video all day they put up a video clip as well well do that like it's its street that looks like a macbook air lay it kind of looks like a toad or a mac yeah like a macbook air yeah so anyways it's on the top of the store it's gonna be really interesting I'm very curious to see what this was gonna look like I haven't been in Chicago in a long time but I'd like to go back now because there's a MacBook on top of the store it'd be cool if they turn that into a helicopter pad so you know Steve junco didn't pick flies in and lands on the top yeah it would be nice that's pretty cool what they got to make that sticker light up though they should you know animation I'm telling you that's got if it was a focused beam that like shot directly into the sky like a spotlight that would be crazy yeah so every plane and helicopter fly but it's not gonna be there's apples yeah it's not gonna be it would be like the Apple signal like friggin we don't need the bat signal we got the Apple signal we got the Tim Cook signal I would not want to go there and be like hey Tim cooked you know what you know what I have occasionally can I go on from this you know it's kind of disappointing or disheartening for me is every time I see Tim Cook the way he talks about Apple products yeah it's like a Salesman that doesn't really isn't part of the process of the product yes like this is the always it's like this is the most amazing thing yeah he's getting reading it's like you're he's reading a cue card the way he says it you have never seen anything like this like you pretty much practices well I'm serious I'm sure it just does not come off as authentic I'm like come on bro like and I don't have anything against him personally I really don't but it just does not sound believable and when I watched the WWDC keynote and you watch it over again pay attention to his parts his part seemed like the most scripted most you know he's phoning it in he's I phoning in it now I don't want to say it's inauthentic but the delivery did I don't feel the heart how about this there's no heart in it there's no soul yeah there's a lot of people say that a lot of people in the comments say that like you know it just doesn't have the same vibe there's no soul in it it's just that's the best way to put it you know it's like these other people that are building the products that I and can't do are putting their heart in it right you gotta get someone that is closer to it that can talk about that can make us be like yeah you're right like this will Steve Steve like sit down unlike a couch with the phone to be like Chucky's got check this out guys you look really ill in it he's he like be doing any be like oh watch this watch this he's feeling it like have you go on stage and talk about the iPad pro you don't have to pay me I'll be like this is for sure up to this point the best Apple product of 2017 without a doubt the iPad pro is the best Apple product in 2017 I need a cheering track like a clout a crowd track for you let me do that we can reenact there I'm just saying like and everyone who talks about the iPad pro like people are like skeptical about it it's the new iPad pro the screen is bonkers and until you see it and use it you just won't understand you're gonna hate on it but I think if you try it out you're gonna then go okay they were right they were they're right and every review you know I was very up I was a head of like all about the new iPad pro now everyone that has them you read all here all the reviews they're all like yeah you may not need it but if you're an iPad fan this is it this is the one see screaming thank you thank you thank you thank you that work I almost went into a Tim Cook ran but we want to keep going no no no cheers this guy it's okay we got it um this is the coolest story of the week quite honestly for me if you're a fan of video games if you're a fan of Sega Genesis were you what are you a Sega Genesis owner a totally oh my goodness oh goodness right altered beast I remember all the Z's in the arcade before it came to the home and I was like so pumped okay so check this out um Sega has this new kind of like I guess you call it an initiative but they're calling it Sega forever and what they're doing on iOS and Android is they're releasing standalone versions of their games super cool and they're starting off with the original for free they will be ad supported but if you want to you can pay to $1.99 to get rid of the ads but they're launching with five games off the top one of them is obviously Sonic the Hedgehog fantasy fantasy star - altered beast I don't know if you guys remember this game called comic zone it was like you're this guy that basically has an adventure through comic book panels oh that's cool and then there's another fifth game that I actually not as he never played called kid chameleon but oh that was awesome that was one of my favorite kid chameleon on chameleon I never played that yeah yeah I played that so they're offering these on iowa's they're available now I got them on my iPad the other cool things about them is they work with iOS compatible controllers which I'm going to go and get one now so I can play it while I'm on the when I'm flying on flights and sticker packs come with them when you download the apps and they're free to download free every two we just have to buy the controller no no you could you can actually use the games on on a phone or an iPad but if you want to just have a sit back experience you can use the controller as well yeah I saw Bridget Carey tweeting about like now I gotta buy a Sega Bluetooth controller and I was like that sounds awesome I need one of those yeah so um that that's really cool I think that you guys should check it out but even just having classic sonic on your on your device like remember years ago I talked about Nintendo this is exactly what you need to do so they've never done B no they've never done it they've never done it they barely got Mario on there barely and some like Super Mario jump everyone knows let's be real it's not it's it's lame it still is kind of fun it's fun ish yeah but you have to okay like what is it 10 or 15 bucks to unlock it and ten bucks yeah that's not it's not the come on bro it's cool I could get five Sega games for 10 bucks booyah like come on what was it like one of the first Sega games that came out that do like flying I figured what it was called like Harry or something Space Harrier Space Harrier millions what about Top Gun was a second game Hopgood at the jet game at the arcade where I was like shaking around and stuff so cool that was amazing alright we're dating Sam stay with me stay with me Sam alright she gets the phone calls it's two phone calls like it would be these guys kicked ass yeah this week you guys were in we're feeling it so okay here we go number one Beach in town love the show name is Jesse Houston Texas I want to throw out a bad apple find my Siri remote for the Apple TV if you have kids that remote it's lost it's too small too tiny why can't it be intertwined to define my iPhone app and then while they're at it slap on a fingerprint sensor then we can separate the different IDs so that way kids get to the kids stuff and stuff of the show keep it up guys they dig it good point I'm all about it that's great maybe we'll see that in the next app you know well the next Apple TV we'll see I'll send this show to an apple exec and hopefully all days there they have two floors in this building that we can't access I'll drop off a copy somewhere on their floor okay slip it under through the air vent through the air bag yeah here we go next call hey this is rody from Tampa I saw that when Apple released a ten and a half inch iPad on the Apple Store app on the iPhone if you look and under iPad pro the only two models that show up are now just the Tanana Hass and the twelve point nine inch versions I was wondering if that means that we're never going to have a nine point seven inch iPad pro anymore and that's why they released the new just iPad curious what your thoughts are on it love the show thanks this man has foresight a hundred percent think that's what they're doing but they're not outright saying it and quite honestly like the ten point five inch iPad pro is just marginally larger than the nine point seven iPad in addition to that it weighs basically the same so I think that if it comes down to a price thing yeah you might find people are just going to get the regular iPad or you know the nine points of an iPad pro as it'll I don't know if they drop the price on it yet or not or they will eventually to a certain degree but the ten point five is going to replace it and then the nine point seven entry-level will be kind of like a more affordable iPad that's what I'm that's what my gut tells me but I think you're right on it what you saw cool no next call hey Beach and Chong this is Keegan calling you from Edmonton Alberta up here in Canada my big question for you is what would it take for you to make something like the iPad pro your main and only computer what would replace your MacBook or you know your Dell or whatever is it an application is it this case is it a form factor for me I've been using it what I really love to see some more Pro applications like Final Cut Pro something like that but otherwise that's pretty much the you know only thing that would make me see differently anymore so for you guys what would make you take an iPad pro over a brand new MacBook thanks so much guys keep it up all right I'll be honest with you nothing nothing like nothing would get me to replace a MacBook with an iPad pro like if you said you have one computer to buy today hmm I just because of how Apple's OS is and yes iOS 11 is going to get a lot better but if I want to do podcasts like I've actually looked into how can I just do a dedicated through the iPad pro it actually works well with one mic but with two mics very dicey it's a lot different it's not easy right you want to interview someone right yeah then you talk about pro apps that's another thing but even just file management like again making it your I think if you're someone who's or there's how about this let me take this back for me I could not see myself ever having it to replace it now am I fortunate and firstworldproblems lucky to have an iPad pro that I can take with me when I travel instead of a laptop yes so does it temporarily replace it sometimes yeah for sure but I don't if I had to pick one and you said you have one device that you can choose to use right now it would be a MacBook Pro and also just from the long term of the flexibility of the things I can do with it it would have to be a laptop yeah for me it would be like I need a good keyboard like a solid key that I can like pound on and like just really go to work I also need apps like Pro Tools I need premier and stuff like that on that too you know he said comparing it to a I to a MacBook Pro the MacBook Pros removed the disk drive which was a big problem right so I I would like to have a disk drive I know they're never gonna put that on them you mean like a spinning disk drive you don't like yeah outstate I'm fine with that no I'm sorry I'm talking about an optical drive Oh like like oh yeah I'm sorry like that they removed that from the MacBooks I know but I have a your music I have a PC I have a PC that has that I rip DVD's all the time I Ripley ladies and stuff legally legally uh you know so that kind of stuff you know no I legally legally by the way I legally oh there's something in my eyebrow yeah again I love the iPad pro but it's hard for me to see it replacing a really truly replacing any kind of laptop in if you really wanted to say if you sis here's the thing if you the question was would you choose a Microsoft Surface pro over a laptop that would be the few one of the devices I would I would yeah that's the one that you would and because I know I could take it and use it you know exactly and the debate of the thing is its although they look similar and are trying to kind of do similar things quite honestly if you want to separate what the Microsoft Surface pro compared to the Apple iPad pro the Apple iPad pro is the best standalone tablet the Microsoft Surface pro is the best standalone hybrid tablet that's kind of how I see them so if you want a tablet experience dedicated tablet experience and that's all the iPad pro is the thing but if you want to use it like a computer you want a hybrid OS you want the flexibility of a laptop you've got to get a surface pro yes if you were if you really want to make that distinction I actually don't say one is super superior when iOS 11 comes out on this thing I think people are gonna be like holy crap I've never used a tablet like this before that's what I think is going to be interesting about it but again it's not trying to be a PC I've gotten over that I'm not gonna complain and bitch and whine about that like it doesn't have a hybrid OS it's never going to or not in the next few years at least you know so Apple doesn't want it to be I'm not going to like keep on wishing - hoping for something that they have not indicated to us in any way shape or form that it would happen so but as a dedicated just standalone tablet it's it's awesome just not as nice not as versatile we got two more calls let's check them out hey guys it's John from just oedema Zuri's ago I wanted to call in regarding Apple Maps I recently took a trip from Missouri to Orlando Florida driving and I used Apple maps the entire time of going there to Orlando Florida and back and I wanted to comment about how everybody says how Google masterhood with Google Maps good wrong about that but I think apples starting to not get credit where credit is due because I was driving down there and when there was accident it notified me that there was an accident hit when traffic was starting to slow down it gave me yellow bars to let me know that traffic was slowing down and then if traffic was at a complete standstill it was red and told me that it was at a complete standstill there was some construction along the way and Apple maps diverting me to a faster alternative route so I think that for the most part that Apple Maps has been very good I know that and I could testify for that firsthand because of what it did for me on my trip down to Florida loved the show guys keep up the good work that's all the endorsement you need for Apple Maps anyone who's listening to that that man just he got to Florida man no problems it's all good I was the endorsement right there but I love it that was you know what thanks so much for the call that was great and you're so into it it's like no Apple Maps does this bro yeah so it was just funny the first time we listened to it we were just we were laughing because Google Maps is all that stuff too you know and that's all everything is done he wants to give Apple Maps credit that's yes I'm giving them credit that's where you from I did use Apple Maps recently and the way that's formatted like some things you want to see are below the screen so you kind of have to scroll up to see them is it because more they do that three-dimensional perspective instead of just a flat on the top yeah yeah I mean I know you can change it but by default it's more that 3d skewed like angle look yeah I wasn't into it I'm like I can't see some of the things I'm used to seeing when I'm using Apple or Google Maps you know like there's just things that I couldn't see it's part of it is just figure what it was part of it it's just also though like just being comfortable with a certain product for so long yeah that when you use another one it's kind of like what but it's just funny as he's going through his list his laundry list of things I know I know it I hear let's be honest I appreciate that because guess what we don't know everything and when we don't use Apple maps we want someone who uses it to call in and do exactly that yes like pages users I heard a lot from y'all and maybe I'll start using pages on this because I'm going to subscribe to office 365 no and so the day that I use pages consistently on an iPad pro I'll let you know whose office 365 is cost a lot oh yeah it's a second round is it 150 bucks per year something yeah like come on just just sell me the software once and I don't want to worry about this subscription these noble prophecies why you think I'm using people using Google Docs and everything now every startup now is like we have a great subscription startup idea yeah that's like everyone has a damn subscription now man we don't need any more I'm gonna create my own a Apple bite subscription box with the random merchandise that is should be on sale for 50% that is exclusive bundled together now you know you know this is great those are crazy that's a steak enough all right is there one more call you said there's one more yes shorty shorty showers short and sweet here we go reach-in Tong Tom on Ocracoke Island North Carolina regarding the home pod I won't buy one initially but I may in the future I think that one thing is that everybody is missing and not discussing is they put a freakin a processor in that thing it's gonna do more we just got to find out what it is discuss by discuss good selves no I think you make yet look you make an amazing point Apple did allude to that in the keynote and unfortunately they didn't really talk about how smart Suri was because they really want to position it as a top of the line music speaker first so if they can bring some more noise to that meeting noise me like heat or you know bring the noise you have you guys heard that term bring the noise not noise layout bring the noise bring that um um then I'm still look I'm not one to poopoo on products that I haven't tried I do have opinions on when they first come out can those opinions change yeah so like the air pods i soften my stance on them i still think they look ridiculous but they're really really really good and they can get but the thing is they they have so much room to get even better and that's why I was like and I know they're waiting for Gen 2 but it can be those things gonna be ridiculous Gen 2 I think I really just want to stand in a room and have Google home and uh you know an Alexa and then the home pod all on the same table just play the same song oh it's easy each three of them and see which one sells the but I know and I'm sure it's gonna be the home pod is gonna blow them away you know but I want to know how how much how much better yeah how much better how much mobile it is than the other two how mol bet it is mo better it is yeah that's I think also Amazon's got to eventually make an echo that sounds better that's literally they're using the same speaker system at least from our knowledge and sound wise absolutely that they did from now is it almost three years now two and a half three years now yeah so Wow they've got to make an echo prime Amazon echo prime because the name in Prime and everything now yes not Pro Prime so cool that's it man oh we got alright remember ladies and gentlemen boys and girls please give us a call the phone number is