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Interview: Bryan Bishop has faith in those 'Avatar' sequels on Tomorrow Daily

2016-04-22
welcome back to the show everybody long time you to our daily might recognize this safety is a new york times at best-selling author book shrinkage he is also an adam carolla sidekick and he is on the film podcast film fault we're excited to have brian bishop with us brian all brian you may know where is thank you my full name is i'm very comforted to know having listened to you for a long time than you are in fact quality is not just a trick of region not just an act every 1s tech gimmick to get over on the public this is this is my rear this is the real deal is the real deal not not phony I live that life I love that ball black blood life also just for for our viewers who might have missed you from our from our LA studio when we were small where were you yeah I'm not eating right um congrats you're having a baby this yeah it's true I am having a little baby girl I'm very excited about do around the same time is yeah baby boy our lives are changing I know how about a play date soon let's do it and well maybe we'll invite the kids and the wives too okay i am be a lady are you as terrified as I am I'm not it's it's a weird thing I feel like we've been trying for a while and it's sort of like a long time coming so we're excited we're marks I mean yes I'm nervous for obvious reasons but I'm overall were excited about you well I'm definitely excited and two positive feeling but I definitely like I don't know if I'm prepared for the level of change that my life is going to go through yeah so when we turn to our guest room into a baby room started to turn the guest room into a nursery as when I sort of said my first here my god no more sleepovers yeah friends and parents yeah and we're no more sleeping bag parties no more pillow fights with your guests I congratulate both of you and I'm just gonna wait so everybody else is having babies I'm like I'll just see how that goes for all of you and then I'll I'll think we'll send you a report I have three very adorable dogs you're a very busy person for our was gonna have a child you or have lots of stuff going on yeah but meet him amount of stuff going on so let's talk about first of all film vault don't you with Anderson yep you also do with producer Logan producer Logan does heck we allow him to hang out you allow him to all is the brains behind the operation which is hair fire same here everyone same uh you guys have some you guys have been doing a really good job we want to talk about summer movies with you okay because it is summer movie season it's the world we are on the precipice around the price busters they are coming they are coming today I think the little-known film civil war captain reservoir will be kicking off film season that's like sure what that obscure title is I wonder if ur gonna hear much about that the marketing has been extremely it's close to nothing they're playing it close to the vest really close the best I think they just want people to be surprised about it maybe get some word of mouth out there Marvel you might have a head on your hands let people know about it maybe yeah um but it's a really big summer for movies we thought last year would be a big summer and it's turning out now I think we're just going to start seeing these insane temples every single year just yeah just packed in to a very tight like five months schedule right I I hate I hate the people who are too cool for school and hate on everything and are hipsters about it but I feel like this maybe we'll see this might be the summer of sequels and remakes and reboots that nobody asked for I don't know where another teenage mutant ninja turtles fits into my life the first one was a little too much well you're not ten I was ten when I first came out thus I must have nostalgia for it I was ten than the Transformers came out and I dying for every transformer would be like a gave me more GI Joe please Tina's beating his Turtles not so much not so much my nephew's excited is it okay that you can okay maybe I'll sauna maybe I'll see him there maybe you ought to see it you're like hey kid are you excited about this using yes and you're like me he just kind of like mid take all the joy out of his life don't sit next any tenor okay I won't bring him down are we allowed to talk about the fact you saw Civil War is that oh yeah we can't actually talk about it there's no I don't want to spoil anything for you no don't spoil anything just don't know you're your impressions give me your I walked occasional I will act out my impressions in a dance that I've been working and interpretive dance I please for me it was more like like I mean it was boasting it feared yes oh I saw that I went to the premiere and it was really fun bit of a humble brag it is no it's not a humble notice I should just drop that yeah Brad I got to go to the premiere of Civil War I SAT like like right down the road from Nathan Fillion and that is also Bragg and it was great uh the theater was packed full of people who are just really excited to see the movie which I'm sure will be the case with you guys when you go see it and it was it was great are you on the Marvel train are you excited about the Marvel slate I'm excited about good movies so i will i will give any good movie the proper respect that deserves I feel like the beginning of this year has been really helpful because now we have a very effective scale for rating we have the Deadpool to Batman V Superman scale I don't know where in the Deadpool to batman be superman scale does civil war fall it's it like oh its rules at the top alright guy waiting for pretty great baby right it's cuz dead pulls more of a personal individual film but like if you really look at i don't know it could qualities qualities i would say it's i would say right there wow there's a certain character that shows up that like I i'm not i'm not even gonna lie i should have teared when that character showed the way that character is all right there's no it's just wonderful cuz this is a bit they kind of blow it in the trailer at least one of the trailers i saw where spider-man shows i was in you're talking about yeah okay alright okay alright cuz i'm talking about if it's in the trailer it's not a secret right well but okay I'd be just I'm just not particularly the people who are going spoilers but the way they set it up which you don't see in the trailers makes it even better when he does show up in that moment okay right I just Wendy's handle to the whole movie is so great and that kid is spider-man there's never been a better spider-man real one hundred percent never the best spider-man Tobey Maguire best spider-man movie of all time is called captain america it is no tomorrow the best spider-man movie is civil war but now we're know where people are like I'm angry about you guys talking about this thing let's talk about more of the movies you're excited about yeah what what are you excited about this summer rice what's what should you see I'm cautiously optimistic for this Ghostbusters reboot I was no badly to want to like it and I'm a fan of most if not all the principal people involved Paul Feig generally does not make bad movies a spy do you guess he spy I did so spice should have been a very bad movies by looked bad in the trailers always Terran it didn't have a lot going for it but then I saw the movie and it was very very good nose like this this is a good filmmaker who is charge in mastery of his craft like he is doing good things with maybe even limited resources resources being the material supply was great bridesmaids of course was great to hear i was very good you're also all terrible trailers yes I would say all awful trailers so I have hope about and ghostbusters because they've all they were call awful trailers when I saw the trailer for bridesmaids I'm like this movie looks so dumb and then I saw it and said what happened this is a great movie like why did the trailer turn me off to this I feel so sad that I waited so long to see it I had a similar reaction to the trailer for the heat which was I know where this is going it's a buddy film and she's uptight and she is crazy and I'm friends but it was so much more than that it was such a better movie and that's a sign of a director's really like you know them at the top of his game speaking of directors are at the top of their game what do you think about four more avatar movies yeah let's discuss alright well well okay there's mmm before you start what do you think of the first avatar movie I would I think that's gonna actually inform the rest of the conversation avatar bows I like avatar wasn't it wasn't terrible you cannot say I've it always a bad movie however he can I say after was a great movie it's it I it was a b-minus maybe I loved it I thought six times in the theater oh I think when you bring in the word unobtainium from a writing perspective I get very upset I read that but I will say it was very beautiful and i liked the message the story sounds very nice and i will see future avatar me as well I listen you bring it back to you mentioned you start as whole thing off with the director how many bad movies has James Cameron 8000 years ago how sonata making that movie is a by any script by any reasonable definition he is a masterful filmmakers mix between good and great films so avatar know by your definition he makes between I and grey okay fine above that I will say it's above average mechanical way back I also think the fact that he is challenging himself to this level when he doesn't have anything to prove he doesn't have to do that you're not the movie so on time no George Lucas honest and just I'm just email whatever but yeah you ever make another movie as long as he lives and he would be fine but making for movies at once is Herculean yeah and I think that that shows how much he cares about this property that said I don't know if if i am to of all the james cameron properties I don't know if Machar's the one that I want to see a lot more of like I need I need more true lies in my life I need more the abyss like I need movies that sort of you know never never had that life beyond you know we have alien movies and we have Terminator movies and they've gone in different directions mostly down but I need to see more of other stories that said James Cameron good movie maker good storyteller I'll see another avatar movie fair enough uh so I'm curious about I'm really curious about suicide squad so I want to discuss the DC Universe here because I think there have been a lot of rumors if you have not been paying attention Suicide Squad went into reshoots supposedly there were three weeks of reshoots because uncommon that's a whole movie in sometimes three weeks there are movies that is that is typically a bad sign but there are movies that have done well even thrived because of the reshoots and when it comes to mind is anchorman anchorman had a whole nother subplot about something get someone got abducted or they abducted an animal from the zoo there was something some weird thing where it just didn't work they reach off the whole thing I mean literally a third of the movie and that was the part about the the pan to giving birth right yeah ended up being a much better movie so they realized that this part wasn't working they went around and fix it so do not throw the baby out with the bathwater with the reshoot part of it that's a Harley out with that with the fair enough so what do you think of what you've seen thus far that's another one run cautiously optimistic that's one more where I'm I I'm guardedly optimistic like I want so bad to love this movie and I want it to be good and I want it to be the superhero movie that we all need a la Deadpool but I'm also terrified that it might fall on its face and fall victim to the pressure to be funny or the exact the pressure to do what Batman V Superman didn't do which was just be so self serious and so grim grim yeah it's been it's been beaten to death pretty greedy grim dark instead of Hungry Hungry Hippos that's what I refer is a pretty room most depressing toy you can get for kids that's very true scowling Batman although I mean we've talked about I thought Ben Affleck was greatest Batman I'm the more skeptical about that character and that was the one that I walked away the most impressed with I I stand alone on an island is not liking Ben Affleck in that movie I thought he was one of the worst parts of the movie really but you're you know you're with everyone else everyone else I live and that's like what's best part of the movie was your favorite Batman Wow well wait okay wait yeah pointing like we're separating Bruce Wayne and Batman because I'm gonna ask you next who is the best Bruce Wayne okay uh read the scene no no it's it's such an obvious answer it has to be Christian Bale he brought something to meet you Peyton Bay me by between was a great Bruce Wayne I think and so what look Christian Bale is so great and he's mmm he brought he brought a physicality to the role whereas Michael Keaton ever really but he's a little smaller guy I never really bought him beating up and threatening in blah blah whereas you know the the part where Christian Bale brings a physicality to the role and you buy him as the Dark Knight the guy who terrorizes and terrifies villains and criminals you buy that because he's an intimidating figure do you buy it though on top of the fact that you've seen Christian Bale and american psycho and so there's like that duality to get you've already seen it I give me a break he's bringing full bail to the role did your brain bail bail legacy you're bringing Gail baggage into because that's what it felt like why we liked it so much was because we saw him play american psycho and it was just like that guy could be Bruce Wayne right like quite a stir cove read was just a vigilante instead of a serial killer like you'd buy it Bilbo Baggins yeah I'm predisposed to love him almost everything Christian Bale does because of American Psycho it didn't hurt but you know what crediting the producers for finding that guy who was so great as that thing and making him a subtly different version of that thing is your favorite movie of all time I don't think I could possibly narrow it down although American psyche was probably in that top 35 range I was just thinking about totally random but I was thinking about how rare it is to see a movie now it like current moving you're like that's one of the all-time greats and that is now in my top 10 a year 25 sure I saw whiplash you know last year or a year and a half ago now and that is in my top 25 all time and you think in top 25 that's not that it's all kind of a lot no it's all that's not that many movies that's a very small twist jealous if you've seen a lot of movies yeah what you do what I've seen the fair amount of my think this is because we formulate sort of who we are and what we love at an earlier age and it's harder to hold current stuff up to this it formed your love of yes you have a nostalgic crystallization in your mind you know movies you love does it make a teenager a young man and woman whatever it is what uh what was your favorite movie last year everybody last year the big short was my favorite of the of the big Oscar movies I was hoping that would win I love the storytelling I love the way it took a ver I held it in stark contrast to spotlight in that they both took very serious semi recent true historical subjects and one was a batman v superman style slog to the end where nothing surprising happened and nothing fun or joy I'm granted it's a very heavy subjects every bite of the box are difficult but the big short was also about very serious heavy stuff where people lost their jobs and may even love its of levity they told the story in such a unique interesting way and almost there was a joy of filmmaking I'm talking about like Juan hahaha I was like you could tell there was bursting at the seams with ideas we're excited about what we're making yes I could have done different things with spotlight and thus a big sort was my favorite of the Oscar movies and just answer your first question my bear movie last year was sicario Sakarya why really it was brilliant I loved it I would agree with you that big short brought a novel approach to conveying the information I just didn't think it worked I didn't really because I didn't come away from especially those bits where they stepped down and spoke to the camera and I didn't come away understanding the concept like the hotel the gambling scene which was I think a really brilliant way to convey that idea I still went wait a minute I don't understand what the scene is actually trying to tell me interesting so how much gambling do you do a fair amount okay said he has a problem on heroin abroad with nothing but I don't know I was good the metaphor I understand how it worked in the context of a crap game I should understand how that how that related to to the real world to the shorting fair enough nice we're gonna have to have this is going to be a much longer discussion because we all love movies so we have to wrap everything up but I'll be back tomorrow okay well fish we don't have a show tomorrow but you can come back anyway and talk over here cameras are the cameras on a last question what is the movie you think everybody should see that they have not seen uh oh what's that people should absolutely see that they probably have not not sure I could even holy smokes I'd see change the clown just in the hip pocket ready to play I didn't see that my husband gave me that like you should show me that movie years and years ago and I'm like all right or i would say death to smoochy is another ride like it's terrible but i love it i didn't see those coming um and uh when people ask me if my favorite comedy of all time i will often give the answer of Groundhog Day it is really that brilliant I feel like a lot of the viewers of the show problem you've seen that movie to make some young viewers oh it's ok you may be how's the groundhog day it is it is a transcendental Orient yeah it was a brilliant brilliant comedy if you have seen that yellow how about a different movie viewers the film vault will probably laugh at this because I bring it up I used to bring up all the time I brought up in a while but have you guys seen the original Manchurian Candidate oh yes it is really a movement red hordes up referencing that right no no I figure I know that is um that is a Frank Sinatra Frank Sinatra's the lead Oh in the Manchurian Candidate Angela Lansbury and Frank Sinatra and Laurence Harvey it is a brilliant movie holds up for a movie of 1962 or whatever was it was de facto banned for many years because it was right before it was right before Kennedy got assassinated about a presidential assassination attempt Kennedy assassinated the movies bearing our decades and finally came around in the late 80s and has not been seen by enough people the black and white part turns off a lot of people i think special younger viewers just do it but man oh man it'll it'll it'll grip you and bonus don't watch the remake if you if you watch it before you watch civil war you'll get a reference into war it's true Wow all right there is a Manchurian Candidate references of war that is all the time we have you can read brian's book shrinkage New York Times bestseller it's on the list yeah join the rest of the world yeah you're the only one who wasn't ready you haven't read it yet so you should read that and then you can also check out the film vault where and then you can find him at Bob Bryan right on Twitter I'm called Ryan the adam carolla show on iTunes as well as a film vault enjoy thanks for being here thanks for having you guys will come back and talk movies anytime yes we'll be right back with the back of her Hackett and are into it
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