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good morning on Tuesday februari 28th it's time for episode 186 of the 359 podcast with elf reading and Ben Fox Rubin good morning guys how are you good morning good morning yeah you did oh I'm doing good I'm doing really well here yeah are we excited about today's show cuz I am cuz we're going to space we are going to outer space that's that's gonna be really interested please go to my Kickstarter or a go fund me for 25 million dollars so i can go to the moon no i can i can do a round trip around the moon i am curious to see so this is spacex is planning on sending to private citizens to the moon sometimes i late 2018 we're going to talk about that there's also an interesting scoop from the wall street journal which full disclosure i'm a little skeptical about starting off that they're going to get rid of the lightning connector and switch to USB type-c which a lot of other phones have actually switched to already mostly in the android universe of course and then we also want to go through Roger Cheng our fearless editor who's currently in Barcelona has an interesting scoop about blackberry coming out with some additional phones ah later this year so we'll see if we still care about black do we still care about but I don't I will not be getting any of well we'll talk about it anyway I mean it sounds kind of interesting so all right yeah we'll see so send in your questions and comments we'll get to as many as we can at the end of the show and without further ado let's get this thing going alright podcast recording time we'll be back leave us your all your notes and questions and comment and hate in the chat and we'll see in three minutes and 59 seconds from 32 welcome to the 359 I'm Ben Fox Rubin I'm Alfred Inge among the rumors floating around about Apple's upcoming iPhone this one is certainly a doozy according to The Wall Street Journal the tech giant may get rid of its proprietary lightning connector and replace it with USB type-c which is standard connector that's used on a lot of Android phones what yeah that's never gonna happen they they're making a ton of money off the lightning cables now and they're actually pretty decent cables it's not like it's an obsolete you know piece of technology no it's pretty similar to USB type-c it also as you can see with the iphone 7 it also has audio capabilities why would they do this especially after they came out with the Lightning headphones too for the folks that didn't want to ditch you know right there headphones yeah yeah you would have to get another set of edges it is interesting though that on there you know on the latest macbook pro it's all USB type-c which we did which makes it a type of situation where if you get a brand new iphone and you get a brand new macbook pro that you would actually need a dongle to have them work together which i find completely infuriating considering you would have to spend thousands of dollars for those two pieces maybe this rumor is true though because they're they're trying to build you know sell more dongles now they're trying to break into that dongle market so we get Regice time market yet another dongle to convert from lightning to USB seed this time so if you had an old headphone you could get a lightning cable dongle and then a USB type-c dongle so you could keep your old headphone jack and then just keep dangling it up that it's like a dongle pyramid scheme this is totally totally easy does it make any sense by the way to switch the new like a new macbook to lightning cables like is that something that they could possibly do I mean they could but again I don't think it would make any sense yeah anyway um next TCL which is the new owner of the blackberry phone brand may come out with three count em three phones this year including an all touch screen version this is Lee yeah this is honestly every time you know blackberry comes out with a new phone that's Thai people love the keyboard come on it's no just stop there you that is the whole point of blackberry though is the keyboard that has been there differentiating yes and that differentiator is what makes a difference between a phone that sells and a phone that doesn't how much the different oh oh my gosh well to me what's interesting about this is is that it really does show that TCL is making a serious bid on helping blackberry continue to grow and to actually be something significant the problem is is that it's had so many repeats and starts and stops and it really hasn't been able to reinvigorate right so and I'm skeptical this is actually going to work and the thing is they're kind of only going off name alone you look at the hardware and it's essentially you know they're going off an old Snapdragon processor when everybody's looking forward to the Snapdragon 835 process that's coming out and it's just you know it's not the problem that people don't like keyboards or anything it's more so essentially make good phones yeah that were so hard yes and if you can't make good phones make the nokia 3310 which maybe i'll buy last word dozen came forward last up SpaceX says it plans to offer a charter flight around the moon for to paying customers as soon as late 2018 Alfred how much would you pay for this well it's worth millions of dollars but I always feel like maybe it's just because i'm a pessimist but i feel like the moon is one of those like lackluster disappointing you know tourist destinations kind of like one was like the first time you went to time square like what were your thoughts on that it was very bright there was too much going on there that's what I feel about the moon come on come on I want to go out I'm sure how much I want to have like to pay that much to go to the moon out on its baby-steps it's just the start so a decade ago a similar trip costs about twenty-five million dollars maybe they'll knock off the price a little bit we'll see if you want to read more about these stories check us out on cnet I'm Ben Fox Rubin I'm Alfred Aang thanks for listening we didn't have enough time on the podcast to talk about it but I totally would not go to the moon for that much money if you have the money if I you had them on ok but like what is it I have the money and that's my entire bank account or if like I have the money but I also have like another billion dollars to spare cuz that there's a difference there is a huge difference there's a huge difference if I had known ahead that's all the money I had boy would I my stupid I think low it all on us yeah in trip that's the thing like whenever I go on vacation I like I'm always thinking about like this is cool but there is this like six hundred seven dollars cool like that's how I would feel if I spent that I was going to going on vacation with you okay but that's how I make my vacations worthwhile or it's like okay I'm not feeling like this is where 700 nah let me do all this other stuff that like and then then it becomes fun I think I'm excited about it from the future perspective you started a certain point you know we're only talking about this is like 2018 late 2018 so we've we've got a while to go and maybe eventually let's say like 10 years from now 20 years from now we're both and Brian will still be alive God willing and maybe welcome to go to the moon tail looks like how long would you even like be like would you even be on the moon would you just be going on no you would go around the moon you would orbit them it would take a while for them to open like a Nathan's hot dog stand or something yes so yeah I would it would take a bed so a question to all the folks out there how much would you pay to go to the moon and do you actually think this is exciting or you like Alfred what is I mean not a suck one of my favorite um futurama episodes is when the moon is a theme park mmm that line they go to and he goes and it turns out to just be like kind of like this like Disneyland kind of thing where it is all mundane yeah and everyone just jaded to it yeah we're whalers on the moon haven't seen that way I did really like first season I i I've missed that one I guess this is I i have been reading a book of moon is a harsh mistress where the moon is a penal colony that tries to take over that tries to overthrow the mother planet so we have to be very careful that might happen yeah it might be a different deal if i paid like 25 million dollars to be on the moon but to just go around it okay yeah sorry i like super disagree with you i would love to go into outer space but i know that's going into many of them per se the moon the moon the moon is so tell me when we land on Mars tell me when we plant on Mars you're horrible person alright you'll never guess what everyone in the chat wants to talk about oh my god yeah i'm talking about outer space for God's eggs yeah let's get to come back to space because that it's still more fascinating than then connectors yeah but I I'm kind of surprised like personally my perspective is this is the smartest thing that Apple's done in a long time and that's not saying much but if they were to actually integrate us bc makes more sense but they have such a long track history of suing their own proprietary command yeah but and they've created a whole ecosystem around it there's a there's a lot of folks in the chat that that believe that USBC is not as flexible as lightning I I mean like they might know more about engineering than I do I don't know what the primary differences are between USB type-c and lightning but I think they both have audio capabilities yes they both have data transfer so there are a lot of similarities and if Apple did want to swap it out there are obviously multiple examples in the Android universe that that you know these are flagship phones that they could potentially do it and all the art the argument is is that you know they're just going to get rid of the headphone jack in the next year or two across like the entire smartphone Calgary of Brian they totally should but they're not going they're not going to but they should it's interesting too because the right thing to do hey buddy this isn't run by customer yes which again it goes back to my point it's the right thing to do and they could stand to lose some money obviously even though like why would they they're not their business they're not a charity so why they would do something altruistic like this it might benefit um their macbook line because then their macbook line could actually yeah more with with the iphones but i don't i really don't see it happening but i do want to reiterate the fact that this isn't from some like no name random website this is from The Wall Street Journal so that's why we're talking about it because they are more legitimate news publication a little blog I mean it happen they have been since we're on youtube I will say they have been known to get things wrong sometimes or at least touche get a little off on things klaren I like the point that she raises that the Apple should just simply step up the quality of their cable manufacturing they I don't know about you but I've probably gone through like six or seven charging cables for my phone's over the years and they're just not a bug it's a feature yeah right i mean like they make they make a lot of money off of this stuff and it's really not rocket science like why would they give that up they get they get a lot of money which is just passive income from licensing this stuff switching to USB type-c i mean i just don't see it happening part of the issue though is that a lot of fake lightning cables out there that like that they don't make my have yeah I'm us also like destroys their reputation that's that's definitely a very good point and I there's like I see that happens we see us yeah but then it wouldn't be only like applicable to Apple devices very good point this thought from UCR Apple is going to keep their lightning connector for one more addition to the phone after that they'll most likely switch over to magnetic charging yeah now we've the idea of wireless charging has been floated down there right and wireless audio so you could potentially get rid of the connector and no ports yeah it's gonna say that if adds something if Apple's like making this whole move towards you know we want like a wireless society because we have courage you know I mean first of all I get rid of the headphones sure but then you know the next move would probably be for wireless charging to me that's the next like big innovation in like phone technology and phone hardware right and to be clear that is not something that we've been hearing as a rumor for the upcoming iPhone in September wireless charging has been like one of those perennial wishlist items for years related to the iphone and it just has not come come up so i don't really have high expectations that that's what's going to happen what we have been hearing relating to the new iphone is is that they're gonna get rid of the physical home button entirely it's going to be a bigger screen this is also in that wall street journal story most of that story by the way what you're just carrying a class in your pocket right but like a shank yeah yeah yeah i guide it topples doubles as a shank the other thing they the wall street journal most of the story actually referenced the idea that they were going to have a curved OLED screen which is essentially playing catch-up with samsung so that is another potential rumor and you know you get a slightly better screen instead of an LCD screen um yeah i would love to see an apple device on the whole I'd honestly it should have happened already that's my point that's why i'm saying i would love to see it you know it's just you know the quality of like the the screen is so much better on oled yeah yeah shout out to slide and matthew in the chat let's get ready to dungal totally without a life this is that but uh yeah now that we're talking about it it does kind of feel like wouldn't it be great if they actually did get rid of lightning cuz then the macbook situation would actually be resolved you know what this don't see it it all just sounds like wouldn't it be great if the Samsung I mean if like the Apple iPhone was the samsung galaxy SI values that are on the galaxy ended that's true that's true but you're talking about a completely different operating system and a lot of people that are in the Apple universe you know the the operating systems work with each other whether it's on a bus or you know just think about all the rumors where it's basically like oh we're gonna make it um curved screen right Oh led us BTW USB type-c these all are armed with samsung 0 one of the primary reasons I continue to have an iphone is because of iOS yeah don't license out iOS so but your point is totally accurate that if the s8 is everything everybody hopes it is then it's going to continue to do really well and Samsung sells those phones really well and yes seven is done well the note 7 as far as i can tell has sold fantastic there's nothing wrong with that a bone right yeah it's a perfect phones perfect phone I'm sorry best fun there's some endearing comments about blackberry people are optimistic about blackberry bouncing back it's unfortunate that i have to mention the fact that we've been here before and it hasn't happened before and there have been efforts to revive the blackberry band for brand for years so if black i think that's great if they make a comeback and I'm wrong I'll eat a blackberry eat yeah yeah I'll also eat a blackberry I mean like that's done you don't want to say like you want to eat a bug or you're gonna like smashing I ganya laid a blackberry I mean like that's not that's not saying all but ok i will also you know blackberry how long do is is that they've got almost like zero market share that's the thing like so they have they have a lot of coming back to at the end of the day it gets down to like you can have the best phone you know in the world but it gets knotted like do people want to buy it and that's what a lot of people said about Windows Phones is that like the windows phone operating system was not bad it just was a little late to the market yeah and that's exactly how I feel about BlackBerry's just nobody is interested in this phone and one of their like bigger selling points in it right now is one their keyboard and to their their security which you know Apple already has that market cornered as far as like phone security goes and then the keyboard aspect like I love keyboards on a phone I've talked about this in previous podcast but it was just one of those things where you know I swipe is way better than using a physical keyboard and there's just so many more advantages and not having a keyboard like blocking like half of your screen mm-hmm wait but you do love a physical cue yes because I I love being able to type without looking at my phone which is like easily one of the best features like best benefits of a physical keyboard oulad modular portlets phone that's why modular cuz then you can add and remove that keyboard at will yeah that would be cool if they had had like the blackberry where the keyboard is like a modular aspect than they were yeah that would be interesting you're weirdly onto something gee things that people that would actually benefit customers I'm a genius y'all props to Angela in the chat to who says I'm stoked to go to the moon but can we leave the Kardashians and Kanye West behind now we have to take them why can't we just send them to the moon Oh everybody stays here okay but they would have the hottest moon album of all time they would have a break now and what I'd like to see what they name the twins wait is she pregnant with twins out holidays beyonce is pregnant with twins and George Clooney's wife is pregnant with twins boom cello RV and then end of that conversation cuz we don't need the call to talk about crap let's talk more about the moon let's talk more about the mood and not the guy I can't wait for the first music festival on the moon mmm that would be absolutely terrible that really is just a futurama episode it should be basically like our lives are going to be a futurama i hope this podcast is going on long enough that we can bring zoidberg on because that would i not grade though we haven't met any aliens yet but when we do you're invited on the podcast if you don't colonize us i'm trying to think like what a trip like how long would that trip be did they say around the moon no but they've done it both that's perfect right I just I just think it's like super boring if you're just fly imagine if you were like if you paid a bunch of money to see like the Grand Canyon right but you didn't get to see you literally your plane flew over it and then you went back home I think imma Grand Canyon or the moon or two on two different tears here by like seriously like my childhood dream is to like go to space like if I don't think I'm not be more excited by the fact that average Joe can go to space in the near but you can already go to space currently just kind of not really you're like low orbit can't you you can go to low orbit but it still costs an arm and a leg and space not space it's kind of space yeah it's not really space not till you break the atmosphere I want to do that I want to do that I want to get out of Dodge I mean like my kids are probably gonna get to do that they'll get to be like bored with their kids they'll be they'll have like they're bored millennial Alfred Incas healer go to the moon again vegan but like we're not even there yet get excited if it was in a price point yeah i mean i would totally consider this like i made like five hundred bucks yeah like if it was a forward our trip I totally go I'd go to the moon like I was scheduled it right now yeah um if you want to make it so I don't have to pay for I'd be way more excited if it were a free trip that's what I'm saying go to my GoFundMe a gamma rays 25 million dollars to go to the moon courtesy of a sec so uh if you go to the moon I'll eat a whoopie pie on air Wow I know right I heard it here first he said he was gonna eat a blackberry I mean like that's hardly like a dare or anything you're not uh you're not putting a lot out the hell are you talking about I got really derailed really quick so at least have a moon pie a moon pie fine still stupid all right how much yeah how much what our viewers pay to go to the moon yeah how much would you pay calling out to the chat what would you throw down out of your own bank account to go room not to the moon holidays and around the moon do an actual trip to space curious go like 10 grand I don't have a lot of that Trevor would probably take so long that you would probably be like too tired to even like look at the moon like the breathe too much you think so rocket I courgette like I guess that gene says 10 grand oasis 55 bucks slides is not a dime Matthew says double good cruise Chad says 10k James Cook says a million dollars I'd like to congratulate guy Valentin grand chances 10 grand yeah that sounds like the about the average there's yeah 10 grand yeah so a decade oh no we're talking 25 mil it's gonna take a really long time renard Joe six packs like us to get to them 10 grand wouldn't even pay for like the fuel to get there today yeah today but you know things things could change it could have I saw a great Facebook post of twenty dollars mm-hmm to the highest bidder that's how great Facebook post war is like we didn't even land on the moon and these guys are gonna try to fly around the Mo's I yep this guy is not smart I mean you know that what's what's his name said the earth is flat which one that basketball players and I don't know names I don't know if we are so bad Oh Oh Bobby you're talking about I mean I find that's all over here as soon as a dude says the earth is flat I'm just like you automatically don't exist to me anymore yes I mean I guess it's possible I'm kidding no it's not possible um all right do we have any other questions more uh more more bids for the trip but that's about it okay I think that's a good place to stop yeah let's do it let's start saving our money everybody hit up Alfred's GoFundMe thank you we got our start that go and fund me you might actually get some cash out of this um alright that sounds good all right thank you a buddy thanks everybody for watching 359 is available on iTunes students stitcher SoundCloud feedburner google play music and it sits on cnet been you know this oh come on play along anyway thanks for watching and we'll see you again tomorrow see you tomorrow thanks everybody yep