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and we are live with the 359 podcast on youtube with Roger Cheng and Ben Fox Rubin happy Tuesday all oh thanks for the intro nice and trim I'm taking a note from Beecham's book oh there we go okay each time that definitely avoids me doing my awkward hello everybody hi guys haiti we're on our tube uh yes so we're gonna be talking about a couple things today apples earnings are tonight there tonight there later today or the afternoon if you're the west coast okay and big earnings day actually verizon reporters will be talking a little bit about that though we still care about earnings a little bit just a bit um you do the most earnings out of everybody I you know do my share try to keep busy try to keep busy uh and lastly we've got a start-up Ava wait did you mention verizon too yes I can't advise my bed like literally 30 seconds ago right before you met to the whole earnings talk anyway shut up lastly we'll be talking about Ava the startup that has a product that helps couples conceive right basically come on you can say the which has always been the Fitbit for fertility but I love really what it is but it's it's better that is better than light up that sounds better like than the uber 4x like the uber for getting pregnant that sounds like no that's that's wayward that would be extremely awkward that app is a development in SF right now though I'm sure I'm sure OB Oh verified I guess that's tindra right oh never mind i guess thats Sarah or mine alright and we're gonna heroically try to get through that story without getting extremely awkward yes are our see that news interns met the roads actually wrote the piece she is busy occupied with a another assignment so she couldn't jump on but we're gonna do our best to try to talk about the story without blushing right we'll see and as always you have any questions about any of the topics today or anything general right life whatever said about the comments our producer Brian will shoot me over us we'll do our best answer yeah and I will say we had some really awesome questions yesterday about yeah rise in yahoo merger so keep them coming that was definitely raising of water that we drink but yeah it's else everybody yeah shelter trying to class this place up all right all right let's young it start ready let's do it all right audio is rolling and we are recording in three two welcome to the 359 where we talk about the top tech news of the day and I'll get the crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox ribbon so later today apple reports its fiscal third-quarter results and was supposed to expect a gloom and doom already posted its first ever drop in iphone sales in april and we're expecting more negative news today so then has Apple already peaked yeah maybe but does that really matter i mean like they still make a ton of money like why are we getting all down Z on Apple all of a sudden you know Apple is a sort of a broad indicator of how the market is going right like if they're saying declines in smartphone market you could sort of look at that as an indication that maybe people are just as we've said many times people are just getting bored with phones right I would I would agree with that I'm gonna take the other position on this to say that like Apple is still going to be making a ridiculous about amount of money for years to come off of the iphones yeah maybe people just need to relax a little I don't know there are the companies who tend to rest on the laurels you know they they get cobbled up by more nimble competitors down the line right Oh done I really think that would happen with Apple no but that's always that's always the threat I mean look if you asked about blackberry what six or seven years ago that was an inconceivable thought right they would nokia okay maybe I I will be eating crow six or seven years for value that is that isn't I will I will admit that I cannot see the future that far in advance why not that's what we paid before so look at the other point here samsung actually they already have forecasted pretty strong profits right Galaxy s7 has been a certified hit and it's doing really well kind of bucks the trend the storyline that people are getting bored with phones if people are snapping up samsung phones what's going with apple well they're giving I feel like with Samsung they've decided to give the customers what they want and you know they brought back water resistant today they let you tonight our memory yeah they did a bunch of things that were crowd pleasers I feel like Apple hasn't really done that yet and I wouldn't be too surprised if with its upcoming phone in September it tries to do some of those things because it doesn't have like many innovations expected so why don't we try to like make people happy with these simple additions yeah we'll see all right next up verizon reported its second-quarter results that we know now we might know now why did now that Yahoo deal on Monday tracked us from the poor results reported today yeah and this is a continuation of what we were talking about with phones right like you know verizon didn't add that many more customers well specifically it added 86,000 net new phone customers this quarter that's less than half of what sprint added just yesterday how that's so painful that's pretty sad right if thats thanks britains I didn't you yikes actually I was pretty fun I was all the conference call the verizon see account threw some shade at sprint when a you know sprint got those a he's got they've got the you can hear can you hear me now yeah they're pitch man their pitch man and it basically he was throwing shade of that ad can you see me now is the new reality it's not can you hear me now you know the whole idea of voice qualities a little antiquated mmm saw some shade say like if you've got to sell your product at half off and maybe just something wrong with your product okay little gressive all right good for you low last Ava a Swiss startup on Tuesday that's today started shipping a almost two hundred dollar bracelet that tracks a woman's fertility cycle and yes I realized this is two men talking about this and helps her figure out the optimal time to conceive my feeling on this is is that if this thing went through clinical trials this thing is FDA approved this might be one of the one of the new types of wearables that is actually useful for something as opposed to like just like some trinket that you spend too much money I do wonder what the longevity of something like this is like basically you where to get pregnant and once you're pregnant why do you need a way this thing again yes yeah maybe it should convert into like a parenting tips bracelet afterwards apparently it works it does track enough data that it could conceivably you'd be used for other health monitoring services down the line but they're really focusing on the fertility thing and look it's it it's definitely an issue that uh even young couple deal with let me just took us a while to ask like you me but my wife and I have a little haha wow the to make a baby but you know it this is something that we might have looked into it dragged on for long steep cost for most people by the way 200 bucks yeah I mean it continues to show that like wearable market still needs to cut down some of their costs no it's definitely point y know more about these stories check us out on cnet I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin thanks for listening and thanks everyone for joining us on YouTube looking for your questions and comments would anyone out there use the Fitbit for fertility Ava bracelet the ava bracelet like we used like a low-tech version of that when we were when we were doing it with that were so what was your low tech version is the pee on the stick thing yeah yeah she mentioned that serve like the that's a go-to method right now so I didn't actually realize that there's a newer version of pee on a stick there it is which is they Sam mentions this in the story it's the clearblue fertility monitor which I'm going to read this from the story requires women to urinate on a stick which is linked to a handheld device that records the data points okay so awfully that stick is nowhere near the smartphone you just can have the key on the smartphone yeah well you know what we do that with our baby we've got at the motto thermostat or a thermometer that hooks on door phone via the this is audio jack is it a butt thermometer yeah oh my god I would not use that about that we've got a comes with an extra long course you can sort like hold the phone up here oh oh okay it's not like yeah literally like it's not right up against we had we definitely could have had it so that's very funny uh yeah I mean this is luck we we already have three kids and right we have surprise but you have broken this product at all no but when we were first trying to you know have our first kid there's obviously a lot of like uncertainty in trepidation oh yeah yeah it's going to work whatever and so we did the pee on the stick thing and I really really don't think that we would have coughed up two hundred dollars but if if you're kind of like further along in the process and you're ready to try some some more things and you want to be a little bit more aggressive about it I can see some people might actually want to try doing something like this so here's the deal with the fertility apparently according to Sam you know every given month you've got a window of about six days where you're fertile and this bracelet is supposed to show the five point three days they refer elect eighty-nine percent accuracy that's apparently the biggest window that that's their claim that's a claim that a Vegas window provided by any of these products and there are a number of these out there this is I think the first kind of wearable but yeah it's so it's you know if it promised use you a larger window to make a baby then you know for some folks who especially for folks who have a lot of disposal income that might be worth it yeah yeah let's swing the conversation back over to Apple I'm not yes right yeah I don't know we've got we've got questions and comments of course we got listeners and fans on both sides of the fence regarding Apple but yeah pacifically they're really curious about the sales and how the iphone is doing specifically and stemming from that how much can we actually give away about what's coming with the iphone 7 okay with the iphone 7 the expectation is is that they're going to get rid of the of the other phone the audio jack which may make it more water resistant yes so and that's really the only major rumor that's why the charge it's a wireless charging with scum thrown it don't tell me it's a rumor that's always thrown in the mix we look we don't know what's coming the iphone 7 well the hell yeah we have such a castle Apple hasn't talked to us they don't talk to us actually about especially about especially about the iphone like they're not gonna they're not gonna go and like start leaking stuff about their they only do that on yeah so yeah it's expected to be pretty ho-hum they're gonna go grab the head size I think the changes are pretty superficial or they're not superficial sorry there I mean there's not a minor they're minor yeah so yeah given the fact that it's already kind of in a it's in decline mode at this point I don't know if a new iphone if an iphone 7 that's only modestly improved will actually be able to turn itself around maybe I don't know I talked to the executives of the carrier Verizon Sprint ATT and all of them are very conservative about their their projections for phone sales for this year for this year they're not I mean they wouldn't say specifically but they're all kind of like hedging their bets are not really sure if like this is going to have the same kind of impact that say the iphone 6 did two years back when which was mr. which yet which was a full redesign a full refresh of the product so here's the thing there are rumors that they're supposed to be some really significant improvements 2017 next year's model and that's what they're saving for for the 10th anniversary iphone and they might even not call it the iphone 7s maybe let the iphone X or the iphone 10 or something like that but I kind of i'm a little skeptical about that because i'm kind of like just wait until next year that's that's I don't know which too far via the quality of the publications out that sort of reported on that rumor and are fairly reliable sure hey I'm I'm willing to bet that that's that's the case this is his Apple come quietly setting expectations or more modest level for this year with hopes that things are gonna get bigger next year that might be if they're gonna make all the weight they're gonna make people wait a whole nother year it better be good well those I thinks it would serve the reality of what's going on in the component world right like chip wise processor wise they don't have the physical components ready this year I think a lot of that it's going to be ready for next year that's why they're everyone's waiting for that big push you know there's all that talk about Moore's Law sort of collapse and write pole I can't get away from trips even if I wanted I know I know happening with PCs right there there isn't a significant refresh of a processor this year so you're not seeing a lot of new products like new laptops or tablets that are significantly better because the chip is a significant differently better either I do you think this is fair if you can wait another year for your iphone you probably should would you agree with that Ivan I've been telling people that okay unless you're like me you need to have the newest thing no I'm gonna wait well I've got one of those training programs i'm just gonna trade mine in and i can look at your phone there you go and i could sprinkle water on it hopefully it is water resistant I kind of like that I like that idea kids are drop in the toilet or something sure yeah all right what else we got else you got Brent Armando things that they are skipping the s model for the iphone 7 because the next iPhone is on the 10th anniversary correct yes yeah yeah we just said that yeah so nicely done Armando there you go so its knowledge and that's kind of about it more people arguing about whether Apple is a good company or not and apple bottom on Apple is I mean it's a successful company it's a hugely successful company well not according to you on the podcast you're like they could get snatched up and what number eight years hey there's a now is definitely still successful but you have to look to the future right if it's true he'll be that doesn't continue innovate well start to die off well we'll see competition I think we've been it's true and we've been sitting during Apple days being like what what did they just announced like what was that innovation they just called it the ipad pro plus mini right it's just this the same product as last year yeah with with a pencil yeah you don't know I got me you're basically taking existing successful products and you're either larger than or shrinking them I mean that's not really innovation now Brian's laughing what is so fine Brian because loose Meister's pulling lines from Mad Max notice me Ben witness me oh my god that's a badass reference been no the witness the witness me thing witness me Dad member you have a fan although what are those get the war boys the war boys the war boys always chant that what they're about to like when they see anything in their face yes I had a goose Meister hi goose Meister there you go oh well because I said Armando's name that's probably what happened my petty every other circuit Ben can you say my handle please who want the bed Fox Rubin a blessing next uh creme wants to know well he says that he heard a rumor that the next iPhone will be the iphone 6s and when the warrant of that that's not gonna happen yeah that sounds kind of sounds like a silly well me there's the iphone SE right there's the small that would kind of confuse people a little too much yeah if if they did an iphone 6s I I don't think it's gonna be the next one I imagine there'll be a refresh of the SE which will be I'm also terrible or like also whatever you I don't spill it'll fill particular gap in there in the proper folio look if they don't call it the iphone 7 you're basically signaling to everybody don't buy this phone yeah so except for me like I've got a plan where I try to my phone every yeah yeah you're your tech reporter or tech editor so you're very specific customer I am what about uh do you think the iphone 7 will be waterproof I do think that that's very realistic wait waterproof it would wobble is it could be water resistant but I don't have my gonna be waterproof I mean though there were rumors that the success was technically waterproof no no actually really bothered attested by God you got apple rumors but I know it was early I was like no no no just like rumors about Apple but very good I would love to see a waterproof I mean even if it's like slightly warmer than the galaxy s7 is so why can't the iphone be water which is it we're getting very close to subtended already sealed off there's no you don't you don't really have to well that's the point of getting rid of the headphone jack is fine no dust yes whatever a fan but well what about sizes do you think there will be a 256 gigabyte version okay ooh actually that's interesting that that was mentioned because I think there was a rumor in the last week or two yeah that they were gonna have a super duper sized iphone yeah where it was going to be um what the hell would they call that thing what they call with the call well what is it that it's the like they would call it the plus pro or something like that but I think they were talking about actual gigs in the phone but I think they were talking about the idea as you would ever yeah they would have an even bigger phablet really iphone 7 I can't imagine that happening I think it's an installer I think it's gonna be the two standard sizes that we have now okay but I do i I can't easily see them offering a 256 gig phone version it's but memories super cheap now they make money hand over fist with the with those up one of those higher capacity phones because it doesn't cost them that much but they're jacking up the price fry today man jalandhar boxes yeah it doesn't cost them hundred dollars so it totally makes sense I really want to see them just drop the 16 gig totally I mean it's just a complete ripoff at this point like for anyone my brother accidentally bought one of those why did you talk to me first yeah yeah that's a big mistake mm-hmm and I was stuck with it for two years it's okay for my mom yeah yeah that's but that's basically it but if you use your phone like in any kind of normal way 16 geeks is just it's just not enough mm-hmm I have 16 I'm sorry oh god Brian really do you just like you're constantly delete photos of videos from your phone I just don't have a lot on my phone I don't use it for much more than streaming podcast taking calls no all right you don't take photos not many hmm it doesn't have a lot of friends I'll buy hangs out with us oh all my friends and pokemons ago all right we should we should definitely wrap the yeah we should wrap it up those a good show I loose my sir yeah hey goose nature there you go right on goose let sooo good Banda Andale thanks everybody thank you thank you all for your time and your questions love the feedback if you like anything you saw heard here I can check us out on cnet com I saw our podcast is available on itunes google play music soundcloud tune in and feedburner i got it you got it dad we're not alike congratulating me like 50 episodes to figure that is d ok c Surrey 88 is all right see you all tomorrow cool