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good morning on monday october third it's time for the three 5359 podcast on cnet episode 116 with Alfred Aang and Roger Cheng good morning morning have it monday good morning happy mean girls day that's right it's October third I don't know how to celebrate that do we celebrate that it would just watch mean girls it's October third guys okay I've never actually watched that movie that I don't know what that makes me the 2000s classic it's actually better than you would think really alright it's tina fey so it's funny it's true it's our casablanca alpha oh alright well so tomorrow is the big google event so we'll be breaking down some of the big details the biggest announcement obviously is the pixel phone seems like a lot of details of a hearty leek so we'll talk about that I Facebook had a busy morning talking about we'll talk about messenger light strip down messenger app for the emerging markets as well as marketplace which is its take on craigslist so yeah if you have any questions as always leave them in the comments section Brian will pick out the best and you know try our best answer alright let's get this podcast recorded we'll be back in four minutes to answer your comments and questions thanks for joining us and here we go in three two welcome to 359 where we talk about the top tech news of the day only the crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Alfred hang tomorrow is Google's big event but looks like the details of the pixel phone are already out an errant posting from carphone warehouse revealed a number of key features from super fast processor fingerprint sensor better cameras all the details you really want Albert is this enough to get you excited I'm already excited for I think it's the comeback of the Nexus phone well now that's called pixel well i mean i think the super fast processor really is a big leg up on it i'm not a fan of some of the purported leaks where you know might not have a microSD slot which you know I never did but I know that that's a big feature that a lot of Android users you know look for sure yeah I look it's for me it's am kind of curious to see how this photo does how Google's going to this is a break from Nexus Nexus while popular with the hard core android crowd has never been that that kind of mass market fell you know it's not as popular anywhere near as popular as the iphone or samsung's galaxy as franchise so i want to see how pics how Google kind of presents pixel as this phone that everybody wants to buy not just not just the Nerds I think this processor will help them do that but I the way to you know yet mass audience for is usually a camera yep and the leak didn't really tell me that much about what the camera funds will be like and I think that's what they will need to jump onto that stage yeah i mean i would imagine they're going to spend a good amount of time with the camera technology they did last year with the 6p i'm hoping they assume that you spend as much time if not more talking about the pixel phone so what is its twelve point three megapixel and f 2 point 0 camera so yeah it doesn't really tell us a lot mega pixels are can be really deceptive so i know we'll see it's a at least spec wise it seems like it's a really interesting phone so i will say i am happy that it's finally you know moving the industry standard and getting rid of the 16 gigabyte minimum yes on devices I agree 16 gigabytes is not enough and I'm glad that they're you know moving along to that I think that'll help them get a wider audience as well oh yeah the sheer amount of like high resolution photos and videos for capturing 16 gigs it's just yeah it's definitely not sufficient so moving on facebook had a busy Monday and it should introduce messenger light a stripped-down messenger application designed to run on old slow android phones that you'd find any much of markets as well as marketplace which is its take on craigslist you excited are you gonna be using marketplace i use craigslist almost every day i usually just go on the free tab to see if there's anything i can pick up got it um so I am excited for facebook marketplace hopefully they have a free tab there also yeah um but for me it's more so about accountability with craigslist you know somebody could set up a dummy email and then scam you and then there's nothing left they're not saying that you can't do that with facebook but at least it's a little bit more accountable there yeah I'm looking forward to that feature yeah it's I've never been a huge craigslist fan but the fact that they're going to be pushing this they're gonna be putting it prominently in the facebook app I think it's like that prime real estate I'm sure folks are correct clothes are gonna be a little bit worried about that and it'll just lastly a messenger light you know this is an app this is an IM application for the emerging markets it's interesting too because facebook already owns whatsapp which sort of popular in those markets so it seems like the two might cannibalize each other I think they're more so just trying to capitalize on Facebook audiences that aren't already on whatsapp yeah i might even jump onto messenger light on my own just because i don't need all these like crazy features on facebook messenger that they have of all these stickers and you know just that they use I kind of just want to talk to my friends it's super light it only takes about 10 megabytes so very very stripped down so y know more about these stories as well as our Google preview check us out on cnet I'm Roger chain I'm a farang thanks for listening so just as a reminder tomorrow's Google event is at it is at nine a.m. pacific noon eastern and it is based in san francisco yes will we have folks on the ground there but we'll also be talking about the the google event after the fact we'll probably do our show a little bit layer tomorrow yeah but yeah well we're expecting we're expecting the pixel phones two of them a pixel and pixel XL which is we believe to be a slightly larger phone probably a bit more battery life but not a not a lot of other huge differences maybe a tablet maybe a pixel tablet a new chromecast possibly just to keep up with sort of the new generation of streaming devices maybe a new router updates on Google home I think we're going to get some pricing and availability availability information and we'll see I don't know what other surprises google has but it promises to be a pretty busy show so yeah join us here on youtube sometime later after the Google event tomorrow and we'll be reeling and reacting the same you so join us here so on that note let's spin into price points yeah so those Nexus phones are traditionally been pretty for all right three hundred four hundred dollars 250 for the 16 gig was a 250 was that the starting price is that like the discounter price that's how much I paid for in full was that like brand-new though like just come out it might it wasn't like right after it came out I waited like a year after that's why I think I think originally it was closer to 300 I mean the way in a very affordable phone what we're hearing from this phone is it's not like a Nexus device it's not a low in or an affordable phone it's it's a super phone it's supposed to compare with the iphone which starts at 650 and galaxy s7 which is around the same price so the XL or the pixel XL I imagine will be closer to seven fifty eight hundred dollars not you know they're not the typical Nexus phone I'm just wondering that's going to get people yeah I think it depends on how they decide to roll it out because you know they've traditionally just sold it through the google play store on its own yea biden full I don't think anyone's gonna do that if that's the case it doesn't have that kind of know I would suspect that Google would strike carrier partnership deals which you know that's not the hard core android fans are not going to be they're not gonna be happy with that just because of the sheer amount of blood way that sometimes shows up on these carrier phones but but yeah the only way to get distribution especially in markets like the u.s. is to have the carrier seldom vast majority of people still buy their phones through carriers at carrier stores I mean it's not like it's unprecedented I mean they're Androids first phone with it came out through t-mobile yes g1 yeah yeah yeah I mean the first although to be fair the first next phone the nexus one was was sold directly through google and was kind of a disaster because customer service wise they couldn't handle the amount of complaints returns that they they were getting with that phone what about let's talk size storage store uh I look as we started to jig mural and then 828 yeah gigabyte model skipped over the 64 gig just like just like Apple oh nothing yeah what about other features like removable batteries and we're doing questions about the cut in the track well that's that can happen I mean I think we're looking at the rumors point to Abbott AG body I think the upper half of it is is plastic or glass I I would imagine it's going to be closed off just like sort of the other kind of super villains are out there that's also just bad then the nexus 5 also didn't have a removable battery or write these slots right so this won't have micro SD either I doubt that's what I've seen from the leaks sorry Sergio yep I'm definitely interested in this phone personally just as a long time iphone user becoming disheartened by the way the device has gone as a light yeah yeah I would be interested to find out if there's going to be a headphone jack on that as an audiophile myself working in the production realm so here's fingers crossed everybody out there I don't probably a few of you with me more than a few more than a few yeah let's see looking through the chat what else do you think we're going to what about wearables watches you know what they just came out with an announcement that entered where to point 0 which is also have a lot of fixes to the original software got delayed till next year so and I actually I wrote a story a little while ago just noting that some of the bigwigs with Android wear motorola Huawei um LG have all kind of pushed back there watch plans till next year and beyond software i think one of the issues is getting LTE into a watch without making it super huge or without it sort of dying out in half a day you know apple of samsung's kind of done it with a DRS 3 is like massive and it's and with my tiny arms it just doesn't look that great so i imagine that some of these guys are taken aback sort of taking a break see what's what they could actually figure out what they can cram into a watch and as well as wait for andrew watch or Android wear two point oh i'm still filtering through the chat here looks like it's kind of celsus at this point I don't over even helping anybody but yeah we're largely in the same boat as you guys we are not sure what's coming we are excited and interested because this could be an opportunity to see something kind of radical yeah oddly what about water resistance I'm talking about what you think I don't think I it should be I I would hope so i'm considering that you know i do think that's an industry standard at this point right at least if you want to be in the top you know three selling phones it is the talk of the town i think if they overlooked that it's a huge oversight yeah part of me thinks that only these phones are development 18 months in advance roughly so i wouldn't be surprised if they don't have if it if water was this isn't a feature just because it's it wasn't a huge priority when the phone started with his development it's my guess though size shape comfort wait what do we think I mean you're looking at sort of the the images there the I mean it looks a lot like kind of shape that may look scum like an iphone right has a I mean HTC is the one building the phone from what i understand that could be more of a silent partner this time but you know if anything if it looks kind of like the HTC One you know it's not a terrible phone it's actually a pretty decent phone yes I can't if you yeah you zoom in it looks a lot like an iPhone sure does you think it's going to hold a candle to the boasting that Apple's got with their camera as a bleep I don't think so not with one camera they've got dual cameras on the seven plus camera this choice as much yeah my grades I I think they're going to talk about they're definitely not devote a lot of time to the camera technology and I'm surely going to talk up how great it is but it will be kind of hard it's hard to see how it matches up with at least with the seven plus is dual lens yeah I don't I don't think it's going to be the hardware that much that they're going to be showing off at this event I think it's going to be a lot about software game which particular eight with you know I I would argue that they've been beating apple on for a while now so yeah it's um pay well but is it will be i sorry will do ginez will there be an equivalent to there is already android pay yeah you know our our colleague Richard nieva wrote a story this weekend his preview piece was really looking at how even though there's to be a slew of hardware being announced it's really more of a software game Google assistant is something they introduced back at Google i/o it showed up in a low the messaging app it's going to be a google home we suspect it'll also be in pixel and they're going to use pixels sort of like the main shojin horse to get you to start using google assistant yeah that's why I don't think it's a it's you know more of a hey this is just our phone event I think that's why they paired it with you know there's going to be the home updates it's going to be these chromecast updates I think there's going to be some kind of ecosystem that they're you know putting out there at this event that's going to be exciting here's a question what are these things on the back of the phone near the camera I think they're referring to these this this trio of dots next to the obvious camera lens what what do we think I suspect those are directional Mike's you think so that'd be kind of cool I'd be interested I mean I think a lot of those have those now but they're I mean it's it's a part of the design and the aesthetic of the phone I you don't see that largely and other it's not on mine that's for a bike right here oh well singular I don't just one though that's three over there I don't know if that's a mic or if it's a proximity sensors Oh out the water haha Jackson water wish to go swimming yeah yeah i don't i'm not sure what those uh i'm assuming one of them's gotta be a mic you're probably right you are though or maybe just some kind of like indicator LED or something yeah yeah course why wouldn't they just use a flash yeah why would they just use a flash I don't know mm-hmm we as we said we're in the largely in the same boat as you guys were just kind of interested in curious parties at this point we'll all be we'll all be in the same boat at noon tomorrow that's right um want to call today yeah yeah 80 for tomorrow yes we saw have a lot to prep for but yeah guys come back here tomorrow again our show probably run a little bit later just so we can accommodate the Google event and we'll be able to talk on it so yeah if you like anything you saw or heard here check us out on seen it our podcast is also available on itunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud feedly and Google Play All Right see you tomorrow thanks you can borrow