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Is Nintendo Switch Online worth it? | Nope, Sorry

2018-10-11
it is a Nintendo switch online worth the price and what's the best music streaming service Spotify or Apple music well hey everyone I'm Jeff Bakalar welcome to nope sorry the debate show where I argue over three rounds of dead serious topics of the day joining me Scott Steiner man what any given moment is wearing fourteen wrist watches only two today but I'm ready to take you on which is one more than anyone needs we got three rounds of debate topics for you today Scott and I will each get one to five points depending on how well we make our case assigning those points is senior editor Bridget Carey in studio to our right hi Bridget hi Jeff always happy to give you judgment that happens off show as well all right we flip the coin backstage to see who will make their case first Scott won it Bridget introduce the first topic please alright gentlemen your first topic is about streaming video games over the internet this is not a new concept there's been criticism of it because of latency issues and Sony's PlayStation now just recently started letting folks download games instead of stream for a better experience but this week we have a new twist Ubisoft and Google have teamed up so you can stream Assassin's Creed Odyssey inside of a Chrome browser question is this a big deal 90 seconds go look I did streaming video games years ago on live and sure there's Playstation now this is a project Google is looking at the project of where this thing can go with streaming and I'm not gonna stream games all the time but streaming is an interesting idea as we start looking at VR other technologies and you know I'm laughing because I think sure not everybody has the greatest internet connections but in the future if we do get 5g we get other tech maybe there are ways that you could do stuff you didn't expect via streaming and that's what gaming is all about the interactivity of it I think if you are putting stock in the future of home internet speeds I don't think 5g is something to really rely on to have this kind of low latency stuff none of these streaming services have worked in a way that is long lasting look at online jet look at PlayStation now they walked it back and now they let people download the games instead of streaming them online it just doesn't work it we're not there yet it's okay to admit that internet kind of sucks in this country if you're comparing it to the rest of the world we're just not there yet I think a lot of people are in places where they don't have high-speed Internet and those people are screwed so I think from like looking at it where if is it practical not really is it a cool idea sure but we're just not ready for it okay what say you I say come on of course we're not ready for but that's why we're exploring it that's why it's a project the whole idea here is that they're beginning to look at this it's a free experiment free you could sign up and you just are playing it like a play sounds great for free if you get into project stream oh I didn't realize was free and then on a free note alright I have five points to dish out between the two of you then I have to give a little bit more to Scott for his positivity on the future of technology and trying new things the future sucks nothing works why are you so positive about that it's a Behrman three points just got two points to Jeff although Jeff solid arguments because yeah internet connection isn't great for everyone but that doesn't mean you can't try give it a try all right fair enough three two - we're on to the next round Bridget what is the next topic topic - keeps us in the video game universe Nintendo has finally launched its online service which lets players play with others online and you're gonna access to older NES games and more it's just $20 a year question is it worth it 90 seconds on the clock yeah all right I'm starting with this one no it's not worth it it's 20 bucks a year and it's still not worth it that's like I don't know 14 cents a day it's not worth it if you look at like what the specs of this service are it's ridiculous they took away free online gaming it was free before this and then they were like no no took it snatched it you want to play splatoon let's say you're an eight-year-old kid and you're like aw spittoon on what do you chew on lines been so great one day you fire up your switch and Nintendo's like giving you their fingers like sorry kid pay us 20 dollars a year get your parents credit card because this used to be free and now it's not welcome to the future little kid and also the NES stuff is ridiculous yeah go ahead take it away yeah may I say something I'm gonna say this look of course there's not a lot of futures on it but that online stuff at the beginning they said from the beginning that that was a trial service before the online so maybe it let people down but eventually they were planning on charging don't make it so that and wait and right now for this first year compared to $50 I'm not justifying the idea of paying for online but everybody else does it and they're throwing in the NES classic games which are there between dollars for one year for $20 my question is after this year like what else will they add to the equation SNES games other things sure if that's just the only thing you got sure but I don't mind it as $20 a legacy thing where splatoon two and a couple games were free over the phone app but whatever you know Nicholas I'm gonna give them one year trying it which is great but this is stupid bridge number 20 what do you think all right guys looking at your arguments I mean Scott everyone else does it was one of your arguments a little weak there I was and and how many more things are we gonna pay for it Geoff tugging on the heartstrings with the children kick very kids matter yeah carry on I'm gonna have to give four points to Jeff on this one one point to Scott sorry you have two children yeah well yeah next round the final round score is six to four I think Jeff's in the lead oh wait I'm Jeff round three let's go all right final round guys we are pitting the top two music streaming services against each other which is the best around Spotify or Apple music 90 seconds on the clock please go okay well let me just say I've subscribed to both I think I'm still paying for both and so that's stupid but sure Spotify I'm not gonna argue is what everybody is using I'll explain why I've been using Apple music and it should be pretty obvious because they use a lot of Apple devices they test and I got into this thing right glommed my itunes library into the catalog so it is dreams I did that a long time ago so now because it plays on Apple watch and that's the sort of system they've got you in so between that and the ability of stream music which is now spidered itself into that collection there I go because it's the only way it can access it Spotify doesn't stream as smoothly although they are making strides with that okay let me just summarize a Scott's argument for you Bridgette his argument is I screwed up and now I have to use Apple music that's its argument here's the deal Spotify is just on a different level music discovery is amazing the only thing Spotify maybe doesn't do well is like friends sort of list sharing him and whatnot but it is the most it is the lightest service it's very easy to use it'll run on anything you have all this sort of customization and for me I mention it at the top the most important thing about Spotify is music discovery I have genuinely discovered bands that I never would have heard of if it wasn't for this so kudos to their algorithm or whatever it is and you know you gotta be happy with with the fact that like people push out their services there there's no exclusivity with Spotify for the most part where Apple music tried to pull that crap a couple years ago I mean come on it's all in what Spotify alright from someone who uses neither service oh I feel like am I really fair judge here wait what are you use extreme it on Pandora okay and I don't like paying for things sure so Jeff you did have the stronger argument about music discovery although I've learned a little something from Scott - although gonna have to go with Jeff on this one three points Jeff two points Scott for trying to make Apple music into a good argument it's a little tough though it's a valiant effort alright nine to six that makes me the winner I'm sorry Scott Stein but what did I win whoa that came in hot it's a limited edition earthworm jim steel lunch box it's okay I didn't want that it's not a big deal well maybe you could shorten it to your children who you apparently dislike a great deal oh ouch wait okay actually my kids would have liked that don't watch that well maybe you think about them ever and then Bridget Carey thank you so very much for being here and judging the first episode of nope sorry you're welcome yeah thanks a lot Bridget all right that's gonna do it for us thank you so much to Scot Stein if you want your topic discussed on next week's show put it in the comment section below until next time we'll see you later
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