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Is Samsung's Galaxy Note 7 the iPhone you've always wanted? The 3:59 Podcast, Ep. 88

2016-08-02
good afternoon YouTube land this is brian it's seen at studios in New York and today we are doing a very late edition of the 359 podcast with Roger ting Ben Fox Rubin and Jessica dual-core good morning good afternoon morning morning afternoon yeah morning somewhere hey it's called it 359 cuz we're gonna wrap up at 359 oh yes it actually could work except that would drag on way too long for us well what time is a 330 331 well it's been welcome YouTube to another episode 359 where we're here with special guest Jessica dual-core I'm trying from San Francisco and our resident expert on all things Samsung will be devoting the entire show to talking about the new Galaxy Note 7 that's the big flagship phone that's launched a couple hours exception just had a big event here in New York City at the hammerstein ballroom hammerstine Hammerstein Christine and so we'll be talking about that if you have any questions as always leave them in the comments section Brian will will pick out the best ones will try our best to answer them and you guys were at the event yes and I was watching like a schlemiel yeah on the live stream so yeah must have been nice actually yeah part of it was pretty cool so when they announced the galaxy s7 in Spain they had this like boxing ring type setup where it was a cube and everybody SAT around it yeah which was kind of fun right it was like theater square yeah and then today they couldn't do that because it was just a traditional everyone sits forward bitter but they used this the floor space yeah so they used like the back screen and then it seemed like there was a second screen on the ground okay yeah they they took out a lot of the front row seating so they kept it all kind of flat they put in I think like led small LED plates or whatever that allowed it to kind of broadcast digital like LED images from the floor well so that it all kind of work together like when there was like a picture in the note on the big screen of the city you get the full cityscape on the floor where you were sitting no no we're like basically the floor space of the state the stage yeah yeah we cool I saw like this is a balcony yeah we actually had the whole wheel yeah we were told to send the balcony were like why that's not the front where we wanna be the front row get close to the products and it's because they want us to get the full perspective of the stage what school which was really cool was that yeah as a stage it took me a little while to figure out they were like LED lights it's like linearly and actually like broadcasting it are they like the spotlight Wow but it was actually it was done very well hey I thought more pressing on ya know they announced afterwards that that actually was a phone that doesn't don't ain't actually you just you just have a truck to take it with you at all times or maybe it was a bunch of new 73 bottom and when you walk alone like we often like crunch them broke the screen it's like the true test of Gorilla Glass 5 it's true body weight Matt how's Kiki joke um should we shall get started with actual podcast yeah let's do it before we get carried away yeah we'll get carried away afterwards specially if you have any questions about robot arm yes we're gonna talk about robot arms as well there's contacts it was at the Samsung of that sure and Jess had a really good time with it that's time too bad okay nevermind let's let's get started all right I can't see that from here so I don't know is some sort of indication like one of these when we're gonna wrap up okay for this just whatever robot arm him yeah robot arm I'll just do this fine um just remember is set to five minutes into those informant podcast I still want the alarm to ring up on meds I think it'd be funny if it did sure dd-did all right Brian whenever you're ready all right we got audio Roland take away in three two welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all you have the crap we want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Rubin and with us is special guest Jessica dual core hey guys don't kullu she comes all the way from SF to talk about galaxy note 7 yeah big big announcement from Samsung just a few hours ago it's why we're taping a little bit late we were at the event um see but you guys were sorry there yeah yeah the cool kids were there so that's all that matters hahaha well let's so let's talk about the galaxy note 7 it's it's Samsung's latest flagship phone Ches why should people care about okay well that's a great question basically this is the most powerful phone of the year that Samsung makes it's been like this for a while you've got the s7 series and that comes out in the spring and then Samson caps it all off just in time for holiday and in time to battle Apple yep with the you know all of the most impressive specs that it can get on this phone that has something that no other phone does which is stylist okay there are a couple other phones that have it but right it's no good this one is actually pretty good and it's it's like a beautiful device there's this coral blue color which is like they're exactly you know at the end of the day you're not probably not gonna buy a phone for the color right where I I wouldn't I you put on a nice to buy a phone for a color yeah it's got a case that has its own state although it is waterproof so maybe I don't need a case for and so is the pen right so so as an update from last year's note 5 it gets all of the things that the Galaxy S series already has so it gets a better camera with low light photography faster processor etc so let me jump in there cuz been had a confused look last year's was the note 5 issues is the note said no that wasn't a mistake it wasn't mistake they skipped a number to keep things in line but they also they explained that it was based off of the s7 platform so okay but if you actually come on everybody forgets about the note edge this is actually the 7th note phone you know about you oh yeah yeah people do forget that Thun because it's a terrible phone okay which so you gave extremely high marks to the s7 edge right that was an editor's choice it came together that was a five-star 72 yeah yeah you're excitingly note 72 like also do just as well is this one yes yes yes yes I sex it mmm when it comes to like performance and battery life and all that good stuff and failing or passing our pool test like yes I expect for that phone to do just as well but then you're adding in the extra pen elements so that has to you know get its whole other you know testing right does it do everything it says you know or is there a problem because it's very complicated and there's all this extra software for it right so the bigger question for me is I mean you brought this up they're bringing this thrown up in time for the next iPhone is this going to be enough to you know we take the crown because last year in the fourth quarter Apple actually took the phablet crown this is the this is an area that Samsung has dominated but Apple that last quarter with the plus line was able to surpass them so is this enough to get them back on top not for true iphone fans it's absolutely not and because I think if you're gonna get the note you need to like that pen right so it's not the iphone that we want it um no because the iphone is the iphone right so you always have people who are going to fall into that camp for whatever reason and and you know it's it's a android as a different universe right i think in some ways it's a lot better i love the google services sure but in other words in other ways when it comes to that absolute like craftsmanship of a device yeah i believe as that nail and partially because they control the software and the hardware i would say as an iphone 6s plus user thing features i really want wireless charging waterproof this is a phone with a larger screen but a smaller body a significantly smaller but looks really flick it's a nice phone there's some nice being an apple guy there there are some nice add-ons these days to really make you consider switching over right now so y know more about these stories check us out and seen it I'm rocker chain I'm Ben Fox ribbon and I'm Jessica doll court thanks for listening and we are clear on the recording i'll start skimming the comments sir I did it wow we're only like 10 seconds sorry Jessica you got so much you cram so much information I mean you guys talk about our scanning I know her the robot arm youtube about robotic well yeah like did you want to look at robot opening and then not mention it like that would have been bad I don't know you don't think we did no we did we did we show so let's talk about the robot arms Brian still flicked a robot arm yes absolutely you've got was got some robot arm footage this was outside well this was in the Samsung event side of the main stage this robot arm is drawing or sketching images of people's faces so what they did is they took a picture of me um that's not that one there's the second video those are all just different replication different is like losing okay okay not a Claire's Jessica right there that is a disturbing picture so they took a picture of me and I thought that I would do something fun so I went ah like smile here and like little vaudeville right and I thought it would just be different from like a whole wall of smiling faces and that's what I got I got like a black eye and then just all these squiggles cuz it's like the flowers in my dress and my hair and it's like two curly what's going on is gonna be your twitter profile so obviously so basically I I broke the robot machine super robot arm robot arm is still probably pretty young right it just felt so happy he did a really good job I'm here thinking you're gonna have to punch me in the face for me to look like that though oh no I gonna be doing out of the show's sliding is just a sliding scale 40 I'm just I'm just trying to be a nice Dada we first got in it was drying like on a canvas yeah we were this holding area before we got into the the ballroom the audience the actual reception room and that was the only thing that was keeping our attention because book of us jammed in before the drinks in between yeah this was a day with mixing cocktails it was using the s pen right this was yes yeah I'm stylish drying place on the galaxy note 7 so a couple galaxies ago samsung shut it off shut off the note with some caricature artists who would sit there and draw you and it took a really long time this one takes about six minutes you know it's using this sort of like kind of rudimentary program and we're going to do it they've got it now but I thought I was kind of a cool way to show off the capability yeah because that's sort of like the deal with the note no we tried the I tried a spin and I thought it was actually pretty responsive far more responsive than well not far but us more responsive than the last one they call better and better yeah it felt almost like an actual pen or pencil all right what about compared to the pencil the Apple pencil who tried the pencil absolutely have you know it doesn't come bundled with the device yeah oh boy Scott were like we'll bring him in oh my god it's not yeah and it isn't reversible hang on and Samsung didn't I mean they didn't miss the opportunity to take a jab at Apple noting that this stylus comes with the phone and right is free oh it's me charging that it's gonna have a headset oh yes audio jack yeah so that's not interested that's where we've come today in this smartphone my samsung was definitely extra punchy I thought through a little bit the show was thankfully pretty fast yes it never got to poori well there they're probably feeling a bit of an upswing right like their finances are moving up that's what best quarter profits in two years so thanks thinking about the mouth that's a huge turn around last year there are a lot of questions they had like seven straight quarters of loss right so yeah so we'll see if the node ends up doing well for them yeah so Brian any questions a lot of people are just comparing it to the s7 calling it the big brother of the s7 how do you how do you take that yes silly like the Big Brother with like 20 more muscles and skills great oh I don't know if it's that much better it does other stuff this is maybe i would i would describe yeah you know I'm kind of like your big brother in that way yeah muscle and more scale oh you talking about Roger you're really talking about me I hold it I don't think you want to bring stop into this uh well you've already broached the subject of getting face punched yeah probably be like Seth will get you to your point yes it's got a stylist it's a virus scanner yeah okay so the things that are different like oh there are gestures in the camera it's got an iris scanner that you're not really ever gonna use is your main unlock screen oh it's blah blah blah like the thing is it's gonna be more expensive I haven't fully reviewed this yet but my feeling is if you don't want it the pen and if you're not going to use it then don't bother getting a note get that yeah if you want the curved screens because this one how you want let's let's talk about the price actually because carriers have come out the pricing is 850 a tmobile 880 at eighteen t Verizon Sprint have them had prices out yet but you imagine it around the same price that's that's pretty expensive that's a starting price right i mean this grant is only one model but that's a lot for a phone right it's a lot for phone and then you look at the one plus three which is four hundred bucks and you're like I invite to all right goodbye when the serum lets just hear ya uh we got a question related uh what's the trade in situation gonna be like oh let's go question for for what for like so specifically somebody's asking if they can trade in their note 5 and get a discount on no setup sure yeah you're drinking yeah I mean that's not same thing you even have an article on Cena called how to recycle your phone for cash there you go you mean the best bets to sell it yourself really chardy gonna do a carrier he's not really gonna get the best value no but it's been like how much effort you want to put it true you're gonna be the preseason standing at the craigslist corner waiting for somebody to like turn it on and decide if they want i think wow they can't be do not mean you're held on ebay yeah you could do it on anything what about best buy uh saving same jail yes train you're not gonna get the huge value it's more convenient though it took me in thanking beautif card yeah and you can use that to another phone the same thing with your career i mean if you're gonna go in there to pick up the phone anyway and you want like one and done or you've got limited time like it's better than nothing's better than having an advice Mulder around being said you're probably gonna get it somewhere close to half the price if you sell it directly to somebody else you're always going to get more money yeah and especially with the types of these phones even if it's two years old it could be the difference of like more than a hundred dollars yeah so you it could benefit you and I'd actually put in a little bit more work when selling a phone i sold a phone recently in an iphone 5c on ebay and they sell really really quickly so yeah I feel like I don't fight though because the note series is kind of specialized and selective I feel like I wouldn't be surprised if the s7 sold more and better because it's more of a mass-market device that when people would want so the know is more expensive right in terms of being able to find a buyer I would imagine it's much easier to sell an SS in general I think it's easier sell iphones like I think I don't know I don't know what but you're absolutely easiest yeah what there's always gonna be someone who wants to buy the iphone yes not sure retain their values better than any other Samsung is number two yeah well I know too much about this Xavier wants to know why is the battery smaller than the s7 edge Oh barely it's barely smaller um that's a great question i think it's honestly that oh no others gonna hate this form factor it's the icing on their story no just just so scared don't say you just say Jerry say it and Rogers dead my partner Jessica all right you know she makes a really fair point they were able to squeeze in the same size screen in a smaller body larger than edge as larger than edge the screens large India your resources to power right so yes there had to be some trade-offs I frankly that because the battery the battery difference isn't that huge getting into a body that's that small that feels better in your hand then well my iphone 6s plus is it's it's pretty interesting it's an impressive accomplishment yeah I mean to be honest like all of these phones no matter how long the battery life is you're still gonna charge it every day yeah they've actually got a cool accessory a wireless charging some backing plate that it hooks into it it's charges wirelessly so you don't they'll plug it in nice yeah yeah there I have a standard actually at my office and you just kind of like lean it up against it and it's so easy but you have to pay for it if you want it okay market it doesn't come and old I think bundled would be great because I think it would kind of convert people more people to wireless charging I'm like really excited about where I'll is charging George wants to know what you think about the OS appearance what the overall look yeah I like the tweets of TouchWiz write what they know they have an accident call TouchWiz by the way cuz like I feel like TouchWiz yeah so the the code name was grace and during my briefing I heard an exact call it grace for a second before he corrected himself is like a hawk confirmed but yeah what you think of it it's gonna be tweaked it around or the colors are a little bit softer yeah I think like the like the settings menu is just kind of like less crowded so they used to throw every single option setting everywhere and then you're like ah because it's like look how powerful we are Samsung we have everything but now it's just like buried buried buried buried which is that's nice it's nice unless they want you to discover it I think it's more there for the people who already know about it and use it or pretty who love to dive into the settings and like kind of discover for themselves but I would say it's a nice change like TouchWiz could not change fast enough yeah I review a lot of Samsung phones and this is not Samson's fault but I am so tired of looking at the door no ass like I needed to change yeah so it happens when you look at the same anything no I agree i mean i have an essex edge and I'm kind of sick of staring you that phone yeah i mean like we could change the wallpapers in the launchers and yeah maybe I call the less though it just yeah but one thing that I do like so a lot of people are diehard you know like pure Android experience I'm Nexus and things like that but honestly there are certain things that you can get with the skin that you can't get with pure Android and then Google takes that and incorporates it never he's like oh this is this great feature right but they hated it when it was bloatware somewhere else I you know there's a limit but sometimes it's nice sometimes they are nice like click the access toggles that you can get to in a drop-down I knew that Google doesn't have really it sounds like they're getting closer to that happy medium right because it really did sound like it was blow we're a couple of years ago yeah and now the i am doing a much better job with their tweet I mean they had just remember like the previous iterations they have their own translator program SEF Google's like that Google's on top of it as well as their own why did they need that no one really does they can do it right there a tech ops voice yeah yes like yes everything oh yeah yeah yes Zachary has all of it sorry Brian Zachary wants to know about the speed he just asked which is faster and Zachary you can correct me or specify if you want but I'm assuming he's referring between the seven and the edge which one performs faster or maybe the seven and the current iphone I don't know if you could give a compare contrast about and while you're at he's also curious about the durability so maybe you could go over the water resistant I've flag shed what Gorilla Glass 500 yes well Wow break the phone tell you because I just managed to break like every other phone or robot arm like um in terms of the performance speed I mean all the s7 phones have the exact same this note said it'll be just as fast as the s7 the s7 quad-core Snapdragon 820 and it was good you know but the question is also like how responsive is it when you add the pen features in because that real world stuff is different yeah right you know and that could cause lag eNOS um if it wasn't perfected right but they keep building so generally it should be good against the iphone I mean we're gonna wait yeah that's hard to say yeah it's unfair thing to measure it against last year's iPhone will probably wait for this year's and also I mean clock speed wise i mean iphone doesn't really Ranma clock speed matter or less to the iPhone because it's right stitch together software hardware yeah and we can run video like drain Testament but still if one phone is more optimized for video than the other but the other one like that is an optimized last see longer like where does that get you but well yeah we'll definitely run those tests once the new iPhone comes out well we'll let you know and once we actually get a new seven yes we still actually don't have a no 17 house we've had some time with it um you know so far I came away pretty impressed so did user ability yeah I was actually gonna mention that because I've been getting into the pool with a lot of phones lately yes sir only the pools push to the pools yes it's it's funnier the more you watch me getting Christian to a pool it's great I agree I yeah so Samsung has these phones rated ip68 that supposed to last up to 30 minutes in five feet of water and there was this issue with the s7 active that Consumer Reports found and they're like actually didn't work and so we're like well let's rerun it you know we did it like a like a bucket in a vase but let's do it in a pool in deeper water right so we did and then it killed two of the phones and Samsung's like oh no what happened and they said that they found this flaw unlike this first run batch like it was a manufacturing error and they fixed that which I think means like a couple people caught fire Mamie I don't know don't quote me I'm also speculate probably early early adopters of the active might want to check about their phones yeah there's a warranty but it'd be nice if Sampson kind of like recalled all those and you just gave you new and so you never had to worry but we did the test again and we did it with the s7 and s7 edge and all three phones past one pool dunking so hopefully this is the same and hopefully there aren't problems because it's got like a more similar body than the active which was plastic right so I feel like they're probably used to it and then now they're on extra high alert because of the ass of an active flaw how much time have you had with Gorilla Glass 5 you went to that event right um actually I did not go to that it meant but Vanessa good the nesa hand went and shot a cute video I'm sure they're quite durable and shiny I mean here's the thing you've got edges on a phone those are flaws those are automatic weak points yeah so if you're gonna get this phone get a case try to get a screen protector I don't know if they're doing molded screen protectors that go around the sides but at least you can get one for the flat right and then if your case kind of like hugs the shoulders then you know that's better than nothing to say and that's the case the cases they have don't really hug the sides there's a side protection really known that Samsung's but there are a bunch of brands that make pretty good cases like sketch um spec okay so there you go even though they promised some durability I would prob Jessica recommends getting in case if you're gonna pay almost a thousand dollars for to me yeah I wouldn't shoot a case that's true what's a little more did you spend any time with audio could you critique anything about sound and headphones um I actually don't have anything I can say about that I enough I imagine it's exactly the same as the SMSF yeah edge so somebody is interested in pre ordering my best advice is to go to a store and try it see see for yourself because Samsung's really not going to change any of that and they didn't talk about changing any of it so it's going to be this in what about the security and the iris scanner how are they yeah well it's chair you mean that's the big thing it's the the big new addition I mean I try the iris scanner works pretty quickly it's not something I don't think you'd use it every day as your normal unlock method like constantly stand at your phone just seems kinda stupid it's not as natural as putting your finger on the phone but I can't see it as you know an extra layer of protection if you have a secure folder as they as they tell secure folder in your phone where you've got personal documents driver's license whatever that was their usage that's our you see that something so you've already unlocked it with your thumb print and this is it's a second layer sound the idea is like of security over if you hand over your phone your friends they'd be able to look at photos you'd be able to browse the web but they couldn't access that secure folder right cuz I have new pictures of myself on my phone or your being statement we didn't really need to know that bank statements make a lot more sense oh I'm you said passport yeah we have you would have for my iphone i have to do touch ID a second time to get into my banking app so yeah same here yeah yeah i think it would be nice and i haven't tested this but i think it would be nice if you could just have like a bunch of different security measures sort of and like the one that you picked is the one that works like if you held the phone up to your eyes that's not very secure but it would be more challenging it is i mean i've looked at talked to a couple of scary experts and iris scanning is more secure than a fingerprint scan no except we talked about the sweat glands right was that you know II so lives it was it was Qualcomm like a year plus ago okay um they were using they were testing out some sort of like sonic mm-hmm WC last year yeah I thought beforehand and they said that it detected like it read not just your print but actually like mapped your sweat pores underneath so if somebody were to cut off your finger though and try to like use your finger apparently when that happens um your sweat glands will kind of constrict so they wouldn't be able to do it so it's this like biometric mapping that goes deeper into your actual tissue without of course harming you but that means that somebody wouldn't be able to just take like a gummy bear print either right manufacturer plastic ones right have to know your unique physiology basically every mission emboss they would never have had but that said that was a Qualcomm that was a Qualcomm tech that wasn't the tech that's being used right now correct so yeah those are a lot easier to fool unfortunately so anyways we're running out of time it got a rep things up any last questions Brian how about customization how would how do you feel about the customization options as far as the operating system and the phone goes I don't think it's changed much from the last version right there will be wallpapers there will be a few themes I think people who are more like die hard about it will want to kind of ROM their own right and which is a little riskier you should only do that if you know what you're doing right and but they haven't added anything new this is not like Motorola where you can attach different mods and covers it's going to be like everything else if you want to splash out with a new cover then you just have to find somebody who's going to make one yeah alright let's wrap things up but if you liked anything you saw or heard here checks on cnet our podcast is available on google play music itunes soundcloud feedburner and tune in we'll see you tomorrow I got awesome you
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