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from the top of the CBS interactive building in san francisco california it's the apple byte extra crunchy with your host Bryan Todd goodness and my co-host even be chesko now let's not put the most with the most Ming what's up everybody welcome to the apple byte extra crunchy this is our pre thanksgiving pre-black friday edition we want to welcome everyone who is watching on periscope if you guys ever get my tweet you guys can watch along with the show but also really this is for all of you listening / audio we bring some video elements we bring all types of things of the game right yeah the video is a bonus itself if you want a video you're lucky it's just a bonus if your parasol beam you can barely hear Steven it's because this is made for people are listening I'm about five feet away from that scope he has five feet away but we're still feel very close to each other very close so again this is a show where we want to make you guys and gals a part of it 1 800 61 62 63 8 is the phone 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you anywhere from five to ten percent off i know it's slightly weak yeah it's basically sales tax exactly from a mole a company that is literally sitting on billions of dollars going to give you ten dollars off the seven hundred dollar iPod it's that bad everybody it's almost a bad apple ah alright anyways let me just tell you a few places I'm not going to go down this list if you guys want to check out I gotta give credit to boy genius report BGR calm they really compiled this great list of all the discounts you guys can find I phone deals how about this if you trade in your iPhone 5 or later you can then also purchase an iphone 6s or 6s plus and get a two-hundred-dollar best buy gift card back that's pretty so that's very solid that is solid deal right pretty solid deal right there over almost the iphone deals are like thirty dollars fifty dollars here Walmart though has the other good one iphone 6s with a two-year contract on either 18 teen verizon save one hundred dollars and also get a 100-dollar walmart black friday gift card those are the two top deals when we're talking iphone okay that's a pretty good deal to iPad you can really go a lot of places there are no black friday deals on the iPad pro because Apple ain't gonna go there okay but if you want to look at something like the ipad mini 4 remember best Retina Display we talked about it last week or best LCD display on any tablet you'll get about a hundred dollars off if you go to best buy best buy has a variety of iPads and different configurations pretty much a hundred dollars off across the board target is doing target gift cards for around a hundred dollars that's really the best price that I could see out there at least for an ipad air two hundred fifty dollars off from staples yeah staples deal right here 299 apple ipad mini 4 16 gig save 100 bucks that's Booya if you're looking at max macbooks imax best buy is really the best place to go you can save anywhere from 150 to 200 dollars off of those machines these are not gift cards these are actual save cash nice which is important no new Apple TVs are going on sale target does have the third generation for twenty-five percent off which is nice I'm not going to talk about headphones oh wait wait hold up if you want an apple watch the place right now target oh yeah one hundred dollars off the 349 Apple watch that's pretty good that's a great deal three I would buy I would recommend someone who wants to dabble with the SmartWatch 249 for an Apple watch is fair to me that's that's fair to me for what it is that's fair that'd be fun to get in your stocking that's a stocking stuffer if you're a rich person so there you go some of the Black Friday deals just to be aware of pre black friday deals we also wanted to keep on kind of steam rolling through this it's gonna be a little shorter show because the holidays but want to talk about the ipad pro we've talked about it like 43 fight for three or four episodes in a row right but this is a really cool thing hamza stood who's a developer who's really always been able to unearth new things from the SDKs and the code he showed off a little quick video of iOS 9 hacked on an iPad pro now we know the ipad pro does not have 3d touch correct it does not have a touch sensitive screen but this little bad boy here my finger in my hand the Apple pencil does have pressure sensitivity so you just showed this cool thing where you push in you can do the whole peak and pop pick a pop you do pick a pop with an apple pencil on an iPad pro nice so again for all your listing though 3d touch on the iPad pro but with a pencil you can pick a pop I would be playing the video but the video says this browser does not support video playback what browser is the most current version of Firefox so that's brutal yeah I don't know here I'll see if I can get on something else so anyways you guys want to check that out pretty cool also um we we know the internet likes to break and destroy things already told about how they tore this Apple pencil apart they have shown on iFixit a teardown of the Apple pencil kind of revealing the innards of it they like sawed off the outer plastic shell of the coating to show this kind of its metal innards the tip of the pencil on the iPad pro is really unique it has this nib and it depending on the orientation that you put on display you can detect that also adjust the pen stroke accordingly to that we know of that about that one unique thing though here is there's a little mini logic board like kind of in this back end it's actually folded in half and then is put inside the Apple pencil it has about five different components and only weighs a gram this thing has antenna bluetooth it also has a battery in it uh I fix it rated it a one out of 10 for repairability Oh which is as low as you can go yeah that's not good what's the battery dies there's no way to replace it uh there's there's just no way to repair this thing there's a light we know we know there's a lights on open the way they're doing here yeah they're using this little cutter all that is cut it open you know Johnny I've whenever he sees these type of videos he probably literally weeps it's like really sad for him this is not this is not acceptable to what are they doing to my pencil you do know what caught the apple pencil like that first of all we did a diamond cutter you need a diamond cut diamonds it's made of diamonds finest diamond alright um also if you're looking around the city and you're seeing these billboards we're talking Apple TV Apple is really pushing for the Apple TV with these new billboards right that are using that a test pattern that you see that smt that smpte those color bars right the color bars that you're used to seen on TV a long time ago the kind of plane off that they're long vertical bullet billboards or the horizontal ins the thing that is ironic about this though to me is there's not even actual TV on apple TV like it's funny yeah but they're working on that though right or you know I on it they're working on it this is not you know okay foreshadowing maybe it's more shadowy but the biggest the biggest flaw that the Apple TV doesn't have it doesn't have a subscription service yet ready to roll which would have made it like massively awesome but they're still using the color bars that's funny I wonder if this campaign was made already thinking that they would have the deals done and they didn't change it and they still pushed it through like we can't get our money back on this 80 story ad thats hanging through this building right here look at the look at this thing hanging down here is huge so that's my that's my thinking they had this ad campaign done already with the idea that TV was a part of it because there's no part of TV that is actually part of the Apple TV I think that's a bad apple right it's bad it's it's it's a premature Apple bad up but uh hopefully they do deliver that in 2016 there are no updates on the progress of the subscription service we Apple is pretty much say mom even Leslie Moonves has said that CBS is working with Apple on that CBS finally released their own app to stream you know cover their shows but you have to have a cable subscription we are waiting to see I'm gonna get you want to take a little time Oh actually we'll save that for our prediction show okay okay let's not let's not burn that but we want to continue to thank you all for listening and watching the show we appreciate it so much and because of you we've got to give you the love that you need with our sponsors here scottevest are what have you to get into that mean you got music for this there we go okay okay guy this is apple byte music I'm gonna give that boy okay scottevest the clothing company that designs multi-pocket clothing let you carry all your devices 42 pockets ipod iphone macbook Apple watch that should be on your wrist all the gadgets Under the Sun you can think of specialists in functional 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that stuff alright I like this one we always talk about apple patents and some of the things that Apple is looking to do right this one let me just open this link first because you know probably felt very interesting as I open it up here Apple has been granted their first major public transit related patent I'm gonna read this this is gonna benefit me directly Apple's newly granted patent generally relates to methods systems and computer programming products for determining transit routes through crowd sourcing for determined in estimated time of arrival of a vehicle and transit route at a given location I don't know about you Stephen I don't know if I've ever heard of any you know I new taxes I get these notifications on my phone every morning is their company calls the google google maps yes oh yeah yeah every morning I get a little notification it's gonna take you a little while to get to work okay well I'm gonna run a little faster thanks google apple has been granted this pan it's not specific enough of how it varies maybe the fact that this crowd sourcing might be related to iphone user specifically but this is you know they took away transit directions and finally brought them back in Iowa that's right just recently just recent months ago so it's dude like a month and a half ago didn't they bite they but I'm proud I could be wrong but didn't Apple by like a big like ways or something well Google's of our ways yeah Google's a part ways Apple has acquired probably over the course of a year three or four specific mapping type third-party independent groups their treasure now folding in yet they are their way major try and catch up we've talked about there's no reason that Apple's compelling use Apple maps yet no seriously that is dangerous borderline dangerous even when i use Yelp that's integrated with Apple maps I copy the address and I pop it into Google Maps because I know it's better yeah you know everyone on Paris you like yep yeah we do that sure people on periscope they're green they're not in their heads although I can't see them on their heads they're not in their heads so um you know we'll we'll see how this they need all the help they can get with their Maps we'll see how it plays out also we told you about how Apple is developing the next Apple watch too I'm curious on people on periscope but they still want the Apple watch to just just fired your comments we'll see if we can involve you guys in this a rumor claims that Apple is now seeking a second supplier for the next gen watch I see a lot of those I'll see a lot of no's I see a lot of f knows I see a lot of yes yes I do yes no okay here's the thing about this rumor that is a little concerning apples looking for a second supplier because quanta who is currently their numero uno supplier for the Apple watch their earnings were lower than expected Apple watch sales numbers are lower than they have expected Apple still won't officially comment on that and these second suppliers that they're looking for to help them are wary of this and they don't want to be sucked into something where they can't make their numbers as well by jumping into the Apple kind of getting seduced by the fact that it's Apple we're gonna sell a lot and then they don't sell as many use as they thought yes well hmm that's that's a tough one to read it is we don't it's very it's of course it's super speculation let's let's throw that out there yeah but look at a company like Samsung who is benefited by being a component maker tons of their components are inside the iphone but it's different we're talking about an iphone versus an Apple watch yes so we'll see like do you think do you think that they Apple believes that a second supplier would help you know just spur Apple watch sales even more they just have more of a more of a reach to their customers or some larger you know bigger growth ability to make more units so that ideally buzz will be greater because initially with the Apple watch it took a long time for people to be able to even buy one yeah that's right just like the iPad pro pencil huh which came out a week or two after the ipad pro okay hold up i also i pre-ordered that stupid pencil five minutes after that thing went on sale I've still yet to receive it oh my god it's supposed to come this by the end of this week where we will be gone that's the number the third bad apple of there's there's a lotta there's a lot of apple been bad this week that's what I'm saying so we'll see how that all shakes out the Apple watch I'm in a story that I wanted to just bring it up real quickly it's kind of fun it's kind of stupid it's a little foot in mouth story I don't you guys heard about this on the CBS this morning show Jimmy Iovine who was part of the acquisition by Apple when they acquired beats and is now fronting with dr dre the apple music service he was talking about a new apple music add that has you know taraji from empire legend mary j blige kerry washington they're just grooving to music talking about music and like having fun well in this interview he kind of he got some people upset I don't know people being oversensitive or not whatever you decide during the interview when he was talking about that ad he said and I quote women find it very difficult at times some women to find music and Apple music helps make it easier with playlist by curated by people now he also said I just thought of a problem you know girls are sitting around you know they're talking about boys or complaining about boys you know when they're heartbroken or whatever and they need music for that right so it's hard to find the right music you know not everyone has the right list or knows a DJ or something that's dude just stereotyping so so crazily it's so funny it's like it's like when guys sitting around watching the football game trying to decide what to listen to you wait wait wait I had that problem that's uh that's not a generation that's right that's a real life issue that's real life funny it was just like oh my gosh like and then people are like oh now these days everyone's gonna complain about everything yeah you say something like this you're gonna hear about it so he did apologize and say he should have chosen his words a little more wisely but let's be honest he really believes that that's he said that was the basis of the TV commercial I mean it's like yeah it's like we're those talking points from the record label like women have a hard time finding their music I don't know based on our user surveys clearly that must be an issue see guys know exactly what song to listen to when they're broken up I have yet to meet a girl who has a hard time finding a song for an occasion sorry I just go straight the boys to men when I'm feeling that when I'm feeling the heart when the hearts are breaking oh man I gotta go boys to men all the time just go water run to try man well I was right or on bended knee women our hearts were always broken and clearly it's only afflicting the women of this world clearly all right in two quick stories to wrap things up Apple pay update this is cool according the wall street journal apple is expected to launch apple pays expect to launch in china by februari 2016 we already know that the UK has got has received it now with American Express also sorry other two banks in UK are there but Australia and Canada are under the American Express card support for apple pay with more coming soon Square is also launching this really cool NFC reader to bring Apple pay to smaller businesses this is also um using that chip card technology as well as Apple pay oh wow so they haven't had a reader like this in the past it's always just been the slide to read but this new contactless card reader really cool we already already know how huge squares for independent businesses small businesses food trucks I like how crazy it is um they're implementing this into the into their ecosystem in it's smart Apple pay and square they're both have payment services but it's smart for square to be like we accept Apple pay oh sure yeah everyone should is examined everything exactly its don't walk out someone you know it's dumb to like take a product offer your website because there's competing products amazon from like taking out the Apple TV because they thought that it would take away from fire TV sales no this is dumb amazon like takes down authors books to get books in there he knows it was like yeah they probably took that until the book so Jeff Bezos could put his wife's a book on there yeah he talks about his wife's book all the time and says like okay there's like three interviews where he says own it's not because she's my wife but it's a really good book but he's like said it multiple times I'm like okay amazon can be evil but props to them for landing that rocket today did you see that they landed a rocket do they really let it ride it yeah where I don't know exactly where landed I think it let you know it landed somewhere on planet Earth obviously but but they landed it up right which is what Elon Musk has been trying to do right Bezos gets it on the first try whoa amazon prime now yo it's a bit of pee pee contest LOL Woody's like talk crap about a company and be like but they also do this thing that's so great yes all right you know what we love you guys we want to hear your phone calls again for you to be a part of the show 1 800 61 62 63 eight is the phone you might as well put on speed dial at the end of every show we want to hear from you we want to talk to you we've got some calls so Steven just kind of rip through them right all right here we go we have a few calls and let's start with number one hi guys my name is Fernando Rivera calling from Connecticut I wanted to know if we can't use the new Apple pencil for our I guess old iPads now is there something that's equivalent that we can buy thank you very much long time listener thanks bye yes thank you so much for calling um so what you can do actually to at least get some kind of pencil functionality again the pencil on the ipad pro only works on the ipad pro but there is a stylist from 53 digital now if you guys have ever played with this app called paper they actually make a physical stylus and the cool thing about it is that it has you know the tip for using two drawers right but also hey i heard a voice in layer it's okay it just goes right just goes but it has a tip on the pencil but also an eraser that you can use so oh really cool that's cool check it out it's it's actually called a pencil because it actually has an eraser unlike other companies that make pencils without erasers yeah I good I also have to point out that Sharon Vaknin did how to a couple years ago I think it's like three years ago on how to make a stylus that will work with an iPad ok and I get ya I'm not gonna hate on this ok I'm gonna be very polite it's cool oh it's a cool project but i'm not going to bust out water and a sponge to make a stylish for my freakin I'm as you know some guys might I'm not hating I pointed out I'm just saying this to each their own we came to mind it's I totally feel that's fair I'm just not gonna bust out sponge in water and a paperclip to make a stylus for my iPad instead I'm gonna buy a 92 you need Scottsdale no tips I'm not gonna comment anymore cool it's cool hey it's cool yeah it's cool I'm seep seep it's free all right price free okay voicemail number two hi my name is terrain I'm from Phoenix Arizona I was calling to find out what's the best day if I was going one day out of the week for CES 2016 would be the best day to go this is a good one okay so CES goers although you won't see many apple products there there's a huge apple section for all these accessories third-party cases companies and whatnot CES is the Consumer Electronics Show it is the Super Bowl for tech this ginormous if you want to like drool over a TV screen that you won't be able to buy until 10 years this is where you go yeah like really you could see everything there like I saw televisions underwater last year as I was walking around 30 people racing cars with their mind control so you know it's totally awesome wacky wacky cool stuff like that 3d printing was made a huge splash out at sea us a couple years ago last year now they're like 3d printing food yeah right well oh yeah last year we're having 3d printed chocolates and he's like that last year was like the year the drone though they were drones flying everywhere it was it it's yeah it's still the year that it's the years of the drone you know if you ask me so to your question anyone that's interested in going to see us first of all it's only open to industry and what does that mean you either have to be a retailer a buyer someone who works in retail someone who covers tech or tech there are ways kind of get around with it cuz I've seen people make up like sites and then get into say that they did Tex amna I'm gonna let you guys figure that one out but it goes from January sixth to ninth which starts on Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday if you want to avoid the crowds go on Saturday or even late Friday because that's when everything kind of dies down right everything dies down for the general consumer who somehow is able to get in go in the last couple days yeah now if you want to be in the zoo where you can't walk at all you go on Wednesday or Thursday yes come by our stage yeah unless you will be will be hanging out there I mean every battle will be bouncing around and stuff but um so yeah that's that's my recommendation for CES fun this totally yeah semi on Apple related but still tech related so we won't answer that okay and the last voicemail hey Brian hey Steven my name is Colin and I'm from British Columbia Canada and I have a question about the ipad pro do you think it would be more useful as a Productivity tool and a laptop replacement if it ran maca like 10 or some hybrid of iOS and medical s I think it would make out developers more willing to produce quality pro apps for the platform like putting final cut pro or logic pro because I know there's probably some professionals out there who want to create more high quality video production and music production and plus a lack of a trackpad and mouse input is annoying to get basic core activity done thanks i love the show guys alright so you know question about can it be a more productive tool if there's a hybrid of OSN that's what last week that is what we were i I've been requesting the ipad pro has potential it has the power to support this but they don't have a proper OS that is really gonna be able to allow me to use it like my laptop yes it just can't be done you can do things but there's a point where you don't you can learn to do things differently but it when it's really less efficient or honestly takes more time you're going to stop doing it on there it's gonna slow you down tues you have to close out it's gonna be slow and quite honestly when you're in laptop mode you don't want to be touching the screen and then go to keyboard and touching the screen you actually want to keep it all in that one spot that's just more efficient so uh they definitely do that another sign and he brought up a great point and what I've been saying look Apple didn't even release final cut pro or logic for their own platform to show the potential of pro apps on an iPad pro that's a red flag right there to make exactly like they help pro in the name and the days support they have their own pro sweet they didn't make anything for the ipad pro now on lunch yeah mo that's a that's a no-no so I've always said until there's a killer app that is using the eye pencil tech and the ipad pro from the ground up to show us a proof of concept that yes this is a truly pro whether you're creative or a video editor or something show me its full potential in front of me so I can really say yes this is what it's for but until then it is still a little half-baked and quite honestly why did I buy it I want a large big screen iPad to consume tons of media I read comics movies I'm on the go all the time that's why I wanted a bigger screen ipad with the idea that maybe I could be a little productive with it that's why I bought it and do I know I spend a lot of money on but I travel a lot so but I didn't buy it and I've used the panel on and it is really cool but it's not cool enough mm-hmm it needs better apps someone's there it's it's getting there so uh they I really feel like they need to work on it they are light years behind what the surface is doing unfortunately the surfaces bugaboo is that it just doesn't have enough apps that's right if it made only very cheesy and flat if it did totally different story yeah but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses I really wanted to actually answer a question that the periscopes we're giving but they had really lame questions like if I wanted to smoke out with them um there were just like dumb comment like I was like aim maybe there's that's an educated question not actually like answer but it didn't happen but it didn't happen this week ah like what's going on with your hair yes those are important things is important are they really no I'm just kidding people want to know all right everybody thanks so much for hanging out with us on this Thanksgiving edition of the apple pie for all of you the in the US happy thanksgiving yes for all of you not in the US and aren't celebrating still spend time with your family and friends that's what it's all about we are just blessed to be able to play with all these tech toys we will be back here next week yes right next friday next friday again thanks so much is the Apple white extra crunchy keep it rolling we'll keep it roll for you guys for mr. Stephen beachy myself Bruce