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hey what's up everybody welcome to cnet's open tab this is the show where we wind down the week we have a couple drinks and we chat with you the live viewing audience wherever you're coming from YouTube Facebook to even do facebook anymore my name is Jeff Bakalar today we have a we have several special guests kicking off the show with us is our security expert Zack Whittaker over there who's still super bummed out about brexit right what no oh yeah brilliant sees British you know that also we welcome back miss Samantha roads she is our cnet news editorial intern who's been digging out all the week's most popular and relevant stories thanks for coming back Sam this is great that you were able to find time in your busy in turn schedule to make it here appreciate that these guys are going to make out the first half of today's program but before we even start we want to ask you the viewing audience to submit your questions your stories anything you want to talk about to help us start a conversation because we're going to be interacting directly with you before we get out of here alright let's kick things off with a story about tinder Sam we found out recently the tinder is gonna allow group dating so how does that work what's going on with that yeah what's group I know group dating well explain it okay so tender socials coming out it's Tinder's coming out with something called tinder social where you can get together with some buds and be like oh I'm going to a concert or I'm you know watching a movie and then match with other groups who are also doing that okay so how does that like how do I set that up not that i'm i'm not i'm looking forward to doing that I am NOT may yes a married why well right now obsolete you can do this is my person yeah jump into that decision nice well this is not dating the song yeah but if you're all just hanging out together so okay so it's not like people looking for sound like the group thing yeah it's not like what you said right at right I cuz I that's weird cuz you know I've been married for a while I've I didn't get to experience tinder did you do you guys like know so I downloaded tinder or whole house was like okay we'll just we'll download it okay and before I could use it I had a friend who swiped right that's the right way right right right yeah it's for 300 people and so yeah thats its casting a line is what that is yeah so swipe right and all these people and then she's got all these ridiculous messages and just because became too much yeah that's that's like that's like an awful prank someone could play yeah so that's my little story with it however i did bring some other stories oh that's right ok so you've got some like horror stories of people on tinder just having the worst time having a bad time no i curated these to make sure they're mostly safe for work ok i will just go with that yeah jazz fan 419 said got a tinder notification on my phone realized i don't have tender and was holding my was actually holding my girlfriend's phone oh that oh that's a double whammy cuz you know finds out his girlfriend cheating she well not cheating baby you know putting stuff out there play on a field exactly okay what else you so then he responded to all them for her I was like sorry I'm in a serious relationship sorry I know it was a lecture other ways okay um rear windows said the only tense an interesting name yeah the only tinder date i went on the woman told me her goal was to get pregnant in the next few months wow I note right out of there yes I said no hell yeah look if you're going on tinder you're not looking to get married yes it's nice don't know then again yeah I had a friend who dated someone for over a year from gender yeah I I know a couple that's getting married I believe from a spawned out of tinder yeah there are lots success stories out there that you know I'm think this is happening more and more in this day and age I think it's absolutely fine that people are meeting people the internet and it's fine oh no one's saying it years ago it sounded a bit bizarre but yeah in this day and age is absolute you know i think it's it's a good way of meeting people sure i think it totally makes sense i mean it gives you so many more options of cuz right now what do you do like you go into a coffee shop and like meet that way no that's still okay to like yeah for the record it's okay to meet anybody anyway anywhere right like that's cool i don't know i don't like this all sort of came to be after i met your mom for my mom so like so while I i I'm still a little curious she's got weird okay weird to curate a married person to just be like yeah I love my wife I love my family like it's very nice i'm very happy this little party mitch is like oh I kind of have a little bit of not regret but just like I'm a little sad I didn't get to experience that game um from my experience yeah which can't do anymore thanks to the boyfriend right probably get mad I I was just but i did download tender social for today Oh see what it was like and it seems like it makes sense you know if you're in a new place sure find some friends go out for the evening alright yeah so maybe I'll try it out tonight yeah okay out and you'll report back next week yeah we'll talk about it next week right is your social dateland so we've got Zak here's access security expert for all things internet security and beyond let's be honest yeah I double you dabble another time so there's a crazy story about Amazon echo wiretapping so this is one of the strange things in Amazon were like one of the Amazon was one of asked companies to issue a transparency report to tell you how many data requests that get from the government okay um but it only takes into account its cloud numbers how many people are having their data temps in its cloud now when the Amazon echo came about this little portable speaker it made you saw one or is it listening on to everything that you say right and yet amazon won't say if the FBI has a will tap wiretap the others here is a rabbit other thing amazon won't say gizmodo some months ago filed a Freedom of Information regret with the FBI and they glow mod gizmodo what's that mean it's to neither confirm nor deny so no one knows like anywhere isn't yeah amazon echo may or may not be listening to everything well okay so so obviously the echoes ears are always open it's Israel is open right it's listening to the keyword which is Alexa LexA yeah but no one is quite sure if the feds have tapped into the power of Amazon echo so the question is not I mean the question is a have they ever done it be could they do it whenever they want right I'm the answer is we have no one to and the word was wide again they got what again the response from the FBI don't blow modes they claw mark as well the glimmer is holly anything above that nor deny it's fantastic alright is there anything else you want to scare us with or is that that's America that's enough for one episode right that's that's enough for now yeah I didn't realize having you here was gonna actually freak out I'm curious dan graziano over there is curating our chat room do you have anything for us or should we just keep going okay we'll just keep going here we're gonna take a break for just a few minutes we're gonna check in with our very own Michael Sorrentino who is out on the floor at san diego comic-con in san diego he's got to be premiering a new beer a Star Trek beer that he found this is ridiculous if you want to keep the conversation going submit your comments in the field section below keep this tab open we'll be right back is mike sorrentino its see that I'm here with Dan Curie from schmaltz Brewing Company and we are here at the gas I'm tavern in time for san diego comic-con with this Star Trek 50th anniversary golden ale yeah humming it out how the inscriptions of his beer sure so our 50th anniversary gold now is the second beer in our line of Star Trek beers in the spring we launched our Vulcan red session IPA which was a beautiful amber kind of really multi red session IPA for this summer we wanted to really do something in conjunction with the 50th anniversary of Star Trek Smeltz Brewing Company we're celebrating our 20th anniversary this summer so anniversaries to us are very important we wanted to really kind of feature the golden idea of the emblem behind Star Trek so we figured a golden pal L would be the perfect beer to match with that the the recipe behind the actual beer was created by one of our head Brewers drew Schmidt shout out to drew one of his favorite episodes of Star Trek growing up was the trouble with tribbles episode so in that episode a lot of Star Trek fans will be familiar with the fact they were delivering quadrotriticale on the enterprise which was supposed to be a super super grain that could kind of grow anywhere and it doesn't exist yet here in our measly 2016 but we do have triticale that's really been a fun beer to brew with it's a hybrid grain between barley and rye gives the beer a really nice kind of spicy pepperiness on the back end and then the hops that we've used for the beer galaxy Aurora Admiral some comet hops all have kind of a galactic tie-in and they give it a nice sweet fruitiness up top which really really balances well with that peppery finish and he was from the decoration you guys have yeah these are our troubles nibbles are creating a little noise let's give this beer a quick shot it's the pale out Cheers I'm yeah so that's what nice pale ale some like lights play bears but really really a little bit sweet I like that a bit of a pepperiness too yeah so again the sweetness is going to come from some of those fruity characteristics of the hot spring out but like you said on the back end it evolves into this kind of spicy pepperiness but all subtle it's a five percent beer you know the flavors are subtle super drinkable super sessionable just really nice smooth american-style pale ale and where I can do find the beer all over if you're down here at Camp comic con man I mean we've got a whole list that I could read off to you if you need me to but bars here and in and out the area will have it on draft all week so you know if you're down here at comic-con keep your eye out have a pint and cheers to Star Trek and schmaltz brewing company yet and thank you so much for your time yeah thank you guys for joining us if you hear a gas lamp let's give us up thank you hi it's mike sorrentino at cnet hey welcome back to cnet's open tab I'm still Jeff Bakalar and joining us for the second half of our fine program is our crack reviews in turn fresh from the lab Jake crow how you doing man I'm great I'm so glad you're back right you're having so it's my bits only my pleasure we got a lot to get to but before that I want to talk about a topic that we're you know sort of following this week it's been a fun week on social a couple things happening in Cleveland specifically could that be yeah what could what could be going on whatever it is the social world was following it pretty hawkish Lee and we kind of love when Twitter melts down like this acknowledging all the relevance that might be there or not they're right the Republican National Convention had its own share of tweets this week I just want to go and look at a few that we kind of thought were funny using the amazing power of social media let's go a few through a few of those right now this was the first one uh saying it was a live shot of the Republican National Convention oh wow a really solid Biff Tannen joke not mad at that that's pretty good right it's not bad what do we have next ser Brion there's the ultimate that's what she said I mean you gotta admit some of these are not bad people are really using this as time to shine for their jokes i actually just wrote two pieces this week about RNC and twitter and it's just dominated like RNC related tweets have dominated the platform it's amazing like all this really is is a platform for people to commentate on right like that's what it is it's almost like it's it's like that's not the real world the real one is like what you know what I mean I think this weird spectating sort of psychology and then finally we really dug some of this awesome comic inspired Twitter art whatever you want to call it from a user of the name of Stephen burn 86 giving us that like really solid Trump comic book villain thing going on oh that one's said it's pretty good right what I mean I like the computer what's that like computer apps like ultra pick that I like do it for ya I don't know like it's a really excellent you know job and hey if the shoe fits right like come on so Jake you had a story about Gorilla Glass yes so Gorilla Glass where people don't know it's the it's the branded glass that's used on a lot of smartphones super hard and they keep doing this thing we're like oh there's gorilla glass 2 3 4 or 5 s we're up to five now 95 now and a lot of phone companies will I'm an apples notorious they don't say they use it they use the kind of their own blend of it but essentially corn grill with us five is here I can withstand a drop up to 1.6 meters which is around five feets that's comparable to the galaxy s7 active the Moto's Saturn shield thus you're saying so it so any surface it can drop that's what they're saying again they did a test it was kind of like a dummy and it was pretty thick but it dropped out of like a proprietary testing machine oh okay I'm 1.6 meters and it slammed on the ground was like a little kind sheet of a kind of gravely okay so a little worse than sand paper but not is worse is like but not like the street no one straight down bounced up and down a few times and it turned out well it was fine yeah that's like selfie height it is I said that they're doing it for self yeah and I was like this new chemical coating are no selfie height it should break I got jelly like if you're out of luck that tips on Melissa right teaches in the lesson look like maybe you drop your phone itself bi you don't deserve to have a phone in you should write meaning or to take selfies exactly you've lost the right lost or sorry and that's not all so so henschel for it to come unlike the iphone 7 maybe your Apple is probably gonna do like their own I on X or sapphire okay there's a potential that could come probably a little too late for the note 7 because I talk a second wow I've got all the dates he's got all I had on there yeah but date fri for some new smartphone during like the new LG they come out like a v10 successor okay small it could buy on there but it's definitely a cool technology to see how they continue to push it to be coming to like a new Ford car this year as well as even some ATM displays gotcha so they're definitely trying to branch out from besides phones itself so do you know like why this works so well and why it's such a huge advancement over the previous generation from what we had a reporter out there and they kind of did the interview like that people be on it it's like this new chemical coating that they put out in it just stronger I mean I guess they're probably working with competitors like the Moto shield display is nuts like what the original droid turbo that they get on last year was able to go straight down it's found very impressed with all these facts right now you're just like yeah how do you so many facts and what was like just like a blowtorch thing right yes they did like a blowtorch I don't that was I'm like making with us or what up taken with it come with Sam a good amount of heat that's okay if someone was trying to like smash mouth like a screwdriver nothing I'd like an aluminum ball not like a big one like a small like a marble sized right down like in this another proprietary testing machine uh Jake how would you smash a glass if you could yeah product oh I have a plane or something like yeah play okay the terminal velocities just seen that budget what's in it see why you playin and they like will drop something on it after it can withstand a lot it's crazy I guess like I'm trying to imagine a realistic scenario we're like can we be like if it falls out of a car I'm like I feel like did you are moving for you guys how often you throwing your phone out of it you'd be sparse a lot my like Sophia of the window oops the jeep owners do all the time to try and get cool shots right something I know what am I found I can opt out of that hard work your pokemons go yeah you're just like oh well but my phone's okay that broke every bone in my body phone front I can still play pokemon gone oh nice Oh Dan real quick checking in nothing no just give it something else for the record that's all right just keep going just keep going cool thanks everyone for sending in your comments and questions appreciate it um so is that it with the the gorilla glass scranton gorilla glass yeah I would drop it into a volcano I decided that I would recall melting it though breaking it tho cuz melting yeah nothing's different phones not gonna do me any good yeah i've decided that i get to crack display you can replace the display but if it's melted like you lost all your dates girl everything's got yeah i didn't get everything that's it that's out that thing that's cool glass 7 really got 71 stand every class I like my plans like into space shall we find out oh that's a big deal Debbie Debbie tired but if they have the lower the Rings endorsement oh all right before we get out of here for the week I want to talk about what happened to this torrent site called kickass torrents and I guess what's like what's the endgame for for torrents in general obviously the BitTorrent technology has a stigma of pirated software lean ozik and all that stuff but like the technology itself isn't illegal and I feel like a lot of people have a tough time understanding the difference between illegal torrents and torrent sites like para Pirate Bay kickass torrents well what is exactly the difference and explain it to people so the way that I can sum it up the best is so bittorrent itself provides a way to stream stuff so it could be like a family movie that's hosted right on your own and that can be shared and they just launched a new app for the Apple TV as well as iOS and Android so you can stream it locally kickass torrents and pirate be like those it's illegal content so it could be not all illegal not always very simple sex soundcloud users can put stuff on there but i would say that a majority of what people use for people forget too bad name because it has like copies of finding dory or like some other sure movie and so they ended up shutting down kickasstorrents there was a clone of it created last night I know but essentially torrenting yeah but like bid torn itself is not illegal I mean companies have used in the past you like to share stuff with them employees they actually just like the bit toward the company just launched their own streaming yourselves from a sort of a they're working with VEVO as well as other than some other like european news channels to broadcast news so it's definitely a great technology and it's good to you know like the internet service to stream stuff back and forth right similar to how like I'm steam you can stream like a VR game instead of downloading it for sure I feel like um you know it's when you have these instances like the Pirate Bay or like kickasstorrents where they become like a haven for the illegal stuff like a party um but by itself in tech is the tech is great it's in a stigma to like art oh yeah most of stuff on their illegal Oh most of the stuff on piratebay and kick ass is like there's some other sites that are dedicated yes for like write freelance min Fe land but unlike indie musicians to say their music is on and as a donate option so I mean and it's essentially using the same technology like Apple pushes apps out that way like with the app store it's the same pulling from a server in its getting it back here it's also using other people downloaded the content so that way you can get it faster so it's almost kind of like a crowdsourced way of downloading totally yes and again like that's behind the curtain like that's the what's under the hood that like eggs BitTorrent such an amazing sharing technology but again like it just sort of found its away like I don't know what I got home from higher ders were like oh we got to jump on BitTorrent Lee this is where it's at but that's sort of the way it is like I know you guys are probably too old for Napster but you've heard of it right too old yeah to jump start to go I'm too old like you weren't around for that that was like the Wild West like that was like this crazy sort of facts and stop the music industry to say the least yeah it did and specifically Metallica yeah yeah all right Sam Jake everyone for coming in Zach Zach looking at you Zach big thanks to You Zach you're welcome that's going to bring things to a close thank you so much for joining us for another edition of open tab have a very safe and fun weekend keep the conversation going in the comments section below we're back next week hopefully all of our interns are as well because I like that I'll be there actually alright have a great week guys