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from the Giant Bomb podcast studio in San Francisco California it's the apple byte extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Bryant on the top guy type top guy you hear me you hear me plane that actual introduction on my keyboard my Erick Aybar air keyboard a betta betta Peppa I like this gestures oh that's the classic one that's the classic what's up everybody welcome the album white extra crunchy its episode 61 we're gonna jump right into it we know what you're all here for we want to break down and talk a little bit more about apple's new macbook pros we saw the keynote and I've got one thing to say before we start the show you know what it is beat him no let's get ready to dongle oh I got it from the mound I could have got I could have gone longer but I wanted to spare the people that are actually listening this with headphones it's free i could have gone honestly maybe another i might do it you know i'll do it at the very end of the show we'll see maybe you could tie me to see how long i can actually hold that das impressive it's a pretty pretty big dongle a pretty long dong so long that's a lot that's a long dong tanggal all right so look we have the new macbook pros yes they've got some great at least power improvements from the previous one more time about fifty percent roughly depending on the configuration about a fifty percent speed increase twice as fast graphics increased flash performance but the big thing there's there's a couple Bugaboos here especially in the pro side I think that again before I go off on this I do want to say that the macbook pro if you're in the market for an actual new macbook pro and you're looking for a speed upgrade and you've owned previous macbook pros this is going to be a really nice update it's gonna be a great upgrade for you from a processor standpoint but i think also though if you're super professional looking for more you might be a little frustrated with this machine and the reason why I say that is one of the biggest complaints is that it's it tops out at 16 gigs of RAM you can't put more ram inside the machine I than that I mean do you know how much RAM are you running on some of your machines for audio production Beach I'd a lot the more than 16 yes way more than 16 most I can't remember this is like years and years ago yeah I'm I know it's a lot so that that's a big frustration in the you know from the pro side and I think that when you look at this machine it tells you a few things about what Apple has now been thinking we've always talked about making machines thinner and slimmer it feels like to me that they're starting to say you know we're gonna make everything thinner and smaller and yes that's sexy but i don't think that serves their pro audience no no no actually yesterday I saw a lot of people saying you know apples making putting the word pro on the end of everything but it's not a pro is that it ain't pro that ain't right they prolly ain't pro so yeah I mean like it's just a moniker now it's like let's put pro and everything I totally agree with that the thing about this is great design right but again an obsession of making things them winner when is a pro machine just because you have for us bc ports doesn't mean it's a pro machine now let's talk about these ports let's talk about what you lose basically when you get this new macbook pro compared to previous macbook pros all right fine we have these for us bc 3 sorry us bc / thunderbolt three ports but they got rid of the magsafe adapter we knew that but it doesn't mean that makes anyone feel any better there's no hdmi there's no SD card slot if you wanted to I did the math a little earlier we feature this in the actual video podcast show that's coming out later today if you add up all the dongles that you're going to need okay you'll need most likely a USB see the current on the macbook pro to a regular standard rectangular USB you'll probably need at least one of those if you're a pro person you probably have some sort of Thunderbolt 2 hard drive you're going to need a thunderbolt adapter a lot of times guess what ethernet still Jeter net drops are still going to be faster than Wi-Fi so you'll probably need an ethernet one this is the work this is one of the most offensive ones to me how do you connect your iphone or ipad hardwired to your new macbook pro you have to get a USB see the lightning adapter cable you can't even change thirty dollars you can't even plug it into the computer directly and I know there's Wi-Fi sinking I know this but when when I actually want to back up my my iphone and ipad i just plug it directly in i'm i'm having a hard time wrapping that around my head right now because i haven't heard that yet yeah you didn't look like you know that that it blows my mind it it's my it's my boggling it boggles my mind to the the good thing is they kept the headphone jack but you're taking away so much and guess what was the motivation to make this a better performing machine to a certain extent right these Thunderbolt three ports are a lot faster but really you know why they put the four USBC port center to make this thing thinner yeah also also I feel like that you have to buy all of apple's dongles and there you know there are other displays and stuff like that so I again that there there's there are going I'm gonna talk about a few the benefits but that but that is a little bunk to me I added up all those dongles and if you wanted to there's a company called griffin technology that makes this really cool thing called the break safe it's basically bre AK safe it's basically their USBC magsafe adapter so they've created their own magsafe adapter because guess what Apple got rid of it on the super ultra thin macbook 12-inch I think another issue that people are gonna face and I'm gonna I think you're going to hear about this a lot more is people aren't going to like the new keyboard feel ya keyboard is so important like I mean you have to be comfortable and be able to type fast and have a place to rest your hands yeah and I'm gonna be honest when we were here doing the live show someone's like oh I like the new keyboard of new I'm like trust me use it for more than five minutes and then tell me if you really like it like sure it's super thin they have the whole butterfly mechanism but there's a certain feel of the depth of hitting keys and actually feeling that basically feeling that they're going down more I like the current feel I'm not a fan personally and I still haven't been able to get used to it of that 12 inch macbook keyboard it's it's just really shell it just feels different and for those of you that don't know we'll know I actually would love to hear from people that on that either enjoy the new keyboard or dislike it if you guys can call us i forgot to give us the number at the top of show so you don't binge do that what is that number just kidding 1 800 61 62 63 8 will make sure to say anything on the show for you guys to call guys and gals to call and give us your thoughts so it's there's a lot of I think if you if the pro pro users were happy with the specs across the board they would be okay with it being thinner but by being thinner it really took away it also battery life it's the same it's basically the same battery life as a previous generation that's sure yeah so um it went when I first saw the image of the keyboard during the event yesterday it looks like it's like sunk in you know like it's it's almost like lower profile yeah it's like lowered down inside the laptop and that looks kind of funny to me i was looking at 9 and my keyboards are or my keys are raised up on my laptop so yeah it's gonna definitely take some getting used to the funny thing about is we still haven't even some some people will lead with the touch bar but I didn't want to lead with the touch bar because i think the touch bar is TBD like it's really still to be determined how useful that thing is going to be and I'm not going to poo poo on it I'm gonna keep an open mind about it I'm not going to use it I'm not going to be someone who uses it for five minutes says this is amazing I think it's great eye candy I think the touch bar looks immediately what I thought you liked it this is eye candy it's like a bell and whistle kind of thing you know and Apple has their own thoughts of why they put the touch part there so we were able to actually talk to Craig federighi on-site with our reporters and really apple doesn't have a touch screen product so what we want to do is really kind of set up okay well are you got why aren't you making anything with like for example like a touch screen mac or anything like that so um do you have a cute up right now yep okay so let's hear what we owe it what Craig federighi had to say in response to just the touch bar as a whole we all do a lot of powerful work all day on our macs and our hands can be super productive right there with the trackpad with the keyboard and so that's where when we look at providing more controls that's where we want them right where you're right where your hands are right at your fingertips if you're on the keyboard you tend to want to stay on the keyboard if you're on the trackpad or using a mouse you tend to want to stay on that mouse and so having your hands on the keyboard and having just without even lifting your hand to be able to reach a control just right in front of you we saw the opportunity with the function key strip being really something that's a throwback to the past and the legacy to instead create an area that was so useful and so powerful and that really provided the controls contextually that were most relevant to what you were doing at any given time and so when the technology came together with a multi-touch display that we could actually engineer into that space and into this expression exposure you know our eyes really got got very wide as to what we can make what we can make happen there the touch bar yeah also looks so that's the thing you know when I look so here's the thing when i look at the touch barn i look at the function keys I'm like oh I move my hand up higher to get to some of these functions weird way I wonder if it would have actually been easier to put it on the row below the spacebar yeah you know like because it would still be flush with like look at the space yeah your trackpad yeah total keyboard yes I mean when I look at it now I'm like man would it just be easier to put it there and if it had some sort of at least ability if there was palm rejection on it or to know that you're not doing deliberate a finger touches maybe that's probably one of the issues like any time you swipe at it or brush it it'll do something but it almost would be more accessible to be right in that space I totally agree and you know like thinking about it more and more I'm like why don't they have a touchscreen on a Mac you know and like the trackpad is almost a touchscreen in itself yeah so that makes a lot more sense to me and having that thing up there you are going to move your hand up there to do stuff I think you will it will become natural you know because having a touchscreen laptop like it is naturally kind of like there's lots of big buttons on their arm there are and occasional just one instead of like navigating your trackpad with your mouse to find that button and then push it you just reach up and go boom yeah you know I mean yeah it's a lot faster so I understand them putting the thing there but I'm still kind of like put a touchscreen on there you guys make the ipad and it's like the best best touch screen in the world and i think the elephant in the room is the fact that apple has not created any kind of hybrid OS that is works universally whether you're a tablet or a laptop and i know that they have their philosophies in their way of thinking like we don't want these to be the same in a weird way I think also they put a touchscreen on max that would cannibalize their actual ipad sales instead where instead of but then you look at other companies like and we'll talk about them a little bit like Microsoft who just blew us away with their keynote just a day or two before app a day before apples and I've used plenty of those products and I haven't been able to jump over yet because guess what apples ecosystem has me locked in mm-hmm but damn those are amazing products and they that's so cool when you use them and you come from it the Apple side you're just like Apple why don't you just do this the invaders or they could do it the other thing about the touch bar that during the demo of the keynote they had a few examples of pro apps and they showed a final cup Pro they showed off a DJ using up the first thing that we saw and we felt is like no one's going there like look at your timeline and scrub through it the person who demoed it was staring directly at their keyboard pressing their finger and glided they won't even look into the screen no one edits a video like that yeah no one else video so I'm trying to find the part of the minutes it's hard it's hard i mean it's deep in there like if you there's the DJ that doesn't look at all like that doesn't look that you're on this like tiny little strip like nah come on yes you're you're gonna use your you're gonna still bring your turntables to do all that definitely definitely so when it comes to kinda morbid I think Photoshop has some great uses you know just changing the colors and sizes that makes sense to me that's cool yeah and it's going to come it's going to be very contextual what apps you use it for what apps you don't we will it's I think the jury is still out on the touch bar and again it's interesting to hear Apple talk about it like they are the first to do it because a couple years ago lenovo had that prop this product called the x1 carbon they did at first it the tech it was just basically like the keys on this bar that replaced the function bar could change but is very basic it wasn't like you had anything to do with senior photo collection or colors or palette it was basically you know specific buttons within apps and it would change apples basically putting this on steroids right now with the touch bar but again it's gonna be interesting to see cuz its high carbon right here I think yeah but because i feel like when i watch this thing and then when i also look I mean we're jumping all over the place when I look at the price of the macbook pros when you compare them to last year's birthday they didn't stay the same price overall the price points jumped basically two hundred dollars higher and so to me that kind of tells me that OLED bar that touch bar is roughly around maybe a two-hundred-dollar difference to put in the hardware so then what was interesting as Apple offered multiple versions of this macbook pro they offered to 13 inch versions one without a touch bar one with a touch bar and then they offered the 15-inch macbook pro with a touch bar it's it would I know they would not have done this but I would have been really cure race if they offered a macbook pro 15-inch without a touch bar as an option for two hundred dollars less I us why I'm curious how many people would actually be like you know what I I think I'll just get the one without the touch bar like I'm really curious about that you know yeah so is is it there's more to this I'm just cool though it doesn't clip it is like super eye candy it's super cool thing about Apple too as they make stuff it looks cool and you're like I gotta have that even though it's like might not have the best specs whatever I will it looks cool and also like watching people use it it's very it looks fast yeah it looks super lots of it looks like basically playing on like your iPhone or your iPad so again the jury's out the touch bar I think it's really cool but I just don't know if I'm gonna end up using it that much uh I'm not in the market for a laptop right now and a lot of times i like i love it when Apple shows me something and I say to myself dude I gotta have that even though I'm not in the market but I actually didn't feel that way about this laptop yeah me neither i'm just hoping that we get to do a work upgrade with her laptop spells I talked to I think I talked to RIT too far IT department on our work computers i will tell you the sad fact is that if you have your computer like somewhere on three or four years you're eligible for an upgrade but the only computers available will not be the new ones ah and if you want to get one the new ones they'll charge your department which they will not they went oh man so if you really want one you got to get one yourself but okay starting at I think what 1799 for the 13-inch good luck oh and that's a villa 5chip not an i7 good luck we good good luck with that good luck just one more thing also we're talking about a lot of some of the things that can't do and I know we're jumping around so we might miss some topic points please we want to hear what you all think about the macbook pros call us at one eight hundred 61 62 63 leave your name where you're from and just don't just jump into it with us the thing though that the macbook pro 15-inch does do that is new is that because of its prowess to be able to push out better graphics possibility you know better graphics capabilities through the Thunderbolt 3 the new 15-inch MacBook Pro supports for 4k displays or 25 k displays simultaneously that's intense that's that's pretty beasty yeah now Apple did make the announcement uh that they were releasing if they were making displays in partnership with LG and if you go to the actual apple store on their website they calm like the LG ultra fine display you can look it up the thing about it is therefore K display I believe they're selling it for 699 but I will tell you right now you can get pretty darn good 4k displays for four hundred dollars on the market Wow now I even type in like 5k display I'm a sure it'll show up as what there you go there's there's there's some of them the 5k display I believe is it to all 99 okay and I'm gonna tell you right now what size is that doesn't say I can't remember is it a 27 I can't click on it it's got it'll say 27 is it 27 you can get like a 40 inch 4k TV for like four hundred dollars not that look but the funny thing about these displays which I always enjoyed is people that may not know I used to work in apple retail way back in the day when they first opened there you know is one of Steve Jobs stores we've talked about in past shows but I can't tell you how many customers were just rich ask people didn't even look at like what else is available is like oh you guys got a 5k display how much is that 1299 I'll take two does it have an apple logo on it well I'll take two can we grow up through thanks is it pretty good yeah I'll take two sweet kill thanks wait is it Oh sir but it's not Christmas i know it's april i just wanted to get I'm just guys just guys so uh that that's going on there Alex it has some powerful capabilities there's also been some other reports I won't get into it in too much depth but basically look the apple 15-inch MacBook Pro has a discrete graphics card so for those of you that are wondering okay what's the advantage of discrete graphics card it's basically you can have an integrated graphics card that's part of basically your whole kind of package deal with built in the machine a discrete graphics card is a dedicated one that will handle more of the high-end graphics whether it's gaming whether it's video stuff but according to reports based on the power of the am the car that is an option for these it's not you don't expect to do any really major gaming on the macbook pro yeah that's I heard Danny a camera and saying that you're not gonna be able to play like any hi res gain or anything like that even if you customize the macbook pro with the highest a AMD card it's based on the reports it could comfortably push out a 1080p 60 frames per second image you know when it comes to gaming but nothing beyond that and there's so much more stuff out there so it'll be interesting again to see like when this is these are called use the word pro like it you got to bring more to the table than that yeah just have to so um that'll be very interesting just overall to see as time goes on how these are received I don't think these are lemons but I think that these MacBook Pros have flaws for being called a macbook pro definitely and then and we have this this video right here and he's like in like what looks to be like a professional studio there's like a pro camera you know pro speakers and stuff but i don't think anyone you know we might use it to like cut some little like short video or something they'll be interesting to see ya yeah i mean you a fake it until you make it yeah I'm pro I got it I got a cannon I got a can of 5d oh yeah yeah I'm pro I'm so pro alright let's take a break and give some credit where credit is due thank you to our sponsors marketers the age of the customer has arrived 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customer success platform learn more at salesforce.com / apple byte and thank you Salesforce for that we appreciate you us thank you Salesforce site thank you i I don't I don't use Salesforce but I appreciate it yeah they're big around here man they're huge they're everywhere everywhere so I wanted to touch upon a few other things when we talk about the macbook pros look we brushed aside kind of the fact that Microsoft went ham hard as ammo you know what nice hard ham ham ham and it it just I was my mind was genuinely blown by that Microsoft studio product that desktop that pushes down that can become like a drafting board a table board and this is something I tweeted out right I said look look how things have changed these days Microsoft is now targeting creatives and Apple is targeting the consumers and I think this video where I think that's might be the surface or the studio I'm sorry yeah it's all wrong but the surface studio uh is one of those products that it's not going to shift the market yet all right there's gonna be certain industries that are going to be able to use that look the fact is that all the creatives for the most part are on the mac platform it's a platform that they've trusted for a long time when it comes to photoshop and photoshop it pretty much does the same thing depending on platform you're on exactly the function it really is like the tools and everything is is there but when you create hardware experiences and that match with software like that surf that crazy surface dial ok this is that was made for creatives an apple used to target that used to be like that those those creatives are the buzz in that creative world those are influencers those are like the cool kids yeah that trickles down and guess what Microsoft will be able to kind of maybe consumer eyes I know that's not an actual word it might have been I just made it up but be able to take this and scale it down but when you when you want to have a flagship product that is for creatives microsoft just knocked it out of the park it looks amazing this look at means that screen what makes it special is its a one-to-one ratio in the real world so an inch on a piece of paper is exactly an inch on that on that screen it's incredible so kudos them I and the dial works doesn't you don't need that thing you don't need I don't need that big screen to use that dial you can use it on your laptop and use on your surface anything anything you know transfers on and let's be real if you're talking about like the dial versus the touch bar I know which one is just a more comfortable analog experience like could you man if they if they were able to plug that surface dial into it one of the video editing suites like premiere oh yeah oh my gosh just turn things I remember back in the day when Final Cut Pro I used to use like a shuttle wheel and it had some functions that you could assign that would that was that was the sweetness right there shuttle wheel I'd use that for pro tools right right right right right just knobs trouble turn up volume hell yeah so I I just where we're like brain dead because we've been talking about this so much but yes Microsoft keynote was genuinely amazing if you don't even care about Microsoft if you really care about innovation you should see what they dropped on Wednesday Microsoft's been killing it hololens hollow lens of studio that's the hollow lens can we talk about that holy cow okay we wanted to touch upon another topic that was kind of reported basically like sometime around last week i think it was basically before or right after we record our last show but i don't know about you all but have you heard of this whole iphone issue where there are two different modems inside iphone 7s but one of them is significantly inferior compared to the other have you heard about this at the only time i've heard about it was the phone call of a guy complaining about it then we got today yeah voicemail and so i wanted to talk about just to educate you of what is happening okay now tests for LTE connectivity by this group called cellular insights showed that there was a huge performance gap between the iphone 7 equipped with an intel modem versus a qualcomm modem and guess what I'll tell you how you can find out but I have an intel modem and it it didn't surprise me when I read all of this stuff of what had happened so Qualcomm we know basically has been in the industry for communication chips they they there's there an institution that Intel getting more into it they're newer to this market that's just a fact okay so this is what happens for consumers the downside of owning and Intel version Intel modem in your iphone 7 tests revealed that the Qualcomm powered iphone 7s were consistently able to establish stronger connections to LTE networks an intel-powered iphone 7s Qualcomm modems outran Intel modems by thirty percent in overall performance and seventy-five percent when the signal was its weakest wow that's big no I'm five percent and I'll tell you right now when my phone goes down to one dot on AT&T yes my phone doesn't work doesn't work a night in in the past on my other phones I'd still get some data there are points where nothing happens okay so let me 4g doesn't exist anymore pretty much it feels like yeah it's it's brutal so let me tell you that are listening how you can identify this now on the back of your phones there are different model numbers okay models a 1660 a model a 1 661 those have the qualcomm modem if you have a 7 basically a 1778 and a 1784 and you have an iphone 7 those are equipped with the Intel modem ooh I'm lucky so I have an a 1 well you have but this is iphone 7 3 okay gotcha you're safe because you have an iphone 7 no i mean you have an iphone 6s yeah I I have the 778 modem the model number so this is also how you can break down what carrier this is probably the easier way to to break this down verizon and sprint sell the Qualcomm equipped iphone AT&T and t-mobile sell the Intel equipped modem guess what I'm on I'm on AT&T now why why is there a distinction there between carriers well they view you know what it is is also the compatibility with the Intel modems don't support the CDMA networks which is what sprint and verizon are based on mm-hmm right where gsm networks like AT&T and t-mobile that they are more common and so that's why the Intel chip was most likely strategically placed in there now what can you do to resolve this Apple themselves also sells unlocked versions of the iphone 7 and 7 plus and those unlocked versions of phones come with the Qualcomm modem nice so that's what you have to do now those are more expensive now because they're unlocked they're unlocked I mean you basically pay a pimp you know you pay for the price up front instead of going through a plan but see now that I know this I'm gonna have to go through this process and figure out all right I'm gonna talk to Apple I'm gonna basically trying because we all know this issue get it swapped out and if I have to wait for a qualcomm unlocked phone and it takes for some people I've read like it takes a few weeks for them to get that they're just kind of waiting for their next phone it's worth the wait so if you have any five percent faster I'm telling you when I have one wrong way when I have one dot out of five dots of signal I get no reception at all I first thought it was when I was in LA and then I was like man I don't think my phones working and then also an eye I started reading this something like damn this is me like I am getting affected by this that's crazy i get to the bottom of that that's what think it's but it's it's that I'm I mean I feel like what I day like any layman which you know they were just like accept it but not not BTW yo find out yobt btz don't go easy alright so this is the thing you got it find out which phone you have remember if you have a seven in that model number anyways that's gonna be an intel modem I'm not trying to create any type of hysteria these are all based on quite honestly tested facts and this is going to I think I hope that this story is gonna bubble up cuz you don't hear about in the mainstream media you aren't hearing about it really too much I mean internet media is talking about it but again this is something you've got to be aware of I think it's horrible yeah I mean I'll yell bad apple but I'm so I'm so disgusted by like I'm just like this is this is pathetic so get your ish together man it's funny that the small its 22 that the smaller care carriers have the faster modem you know yeah yeah and again gsm networks are more Universal across the world vs cdma network so that's why until made the more common antenna and Qualcomm's like BAM so I gotta get I gotta figure this out I got issues now I got real issues I couldn't even talk about in the apple byte show because there's so much stuff to do so that's this that's why it's here I just also want to touch upon two other quick topics during the keynote apple TV is going to get this new TV app it's better discovery really more based around shows instead of networks I've kind of gone off over and over about how we don't care about TV networks we really care about shows make shows easy to find kind of like the netflix interface so Apple at the keynote showcased this new app called TV that will work on the Apple TV and iOS devices I think it's nice the big Bugaboos it does not include Netflix or Amazon it does include hulu but really most people that are streaming content are watching Netflix and on the and if you want to watch all these other TV networks and there's some cool voice search things in there you have to still pay for your cable oh you still have to pay for a cable bill to use this app properly yeah so it just aggregates your cable into all those times you sign in and putting your Xfinity credentials that's a pin to unlock every channel that that will be resolved with this single sign-on feature that is a still yet to officially come out for the Apple TV but I think it's nice I just again we talked about it it's and we've ripped on them enough about the fact that they couldn't get their heads together and get over themselves and just come up with a TV streaming service like sling TV and PlayStation yeah so Roku needs to get this single Roku single sign it would be nice please would be really nice and I love Roku I like got nothing but love for roku but they needed they need to get that they need to get that together and then can you tell my voice is kind of can i was my psyche defeated right now I feel like I think I think the audience could tell we're both a little tired is weird about racket on yesterday true issues in long 24 hours I know like way away I don't try work in retail try work in retail on black friday I have that actually is probably do that that's been little we've been there homies and home at work in a restaurant Thanksgiving oh oh oh my gosh it's the worst that's that's rough that's hard work man but you know what you made it you're here we're here we're here we're here in the Giant Bomb studio we're here we're here the other thing that I want to touch upon is Apple's air pods Apple right the day before the keynote announced that the air pods we're going to be delayed I kind of chuckle because you know how I feel about the air pods but I think what makes this worse is that Apple took the headphone jack away from the iphone 7 in order to feature the air pods yes the air pods are not available they did not give us a date of when to expect them but I will tell you the main flaw or the biggest problem with the air pods reviewers that got early test versions have said they work fine they sound fine but from a functionality standpoint you have two options that you can do to add functionality to the earpods i love the w1 chip i think the tech of how smart it is hearing one here versus the other batt optimization for batteries syncing with bluetooth great killer stuff but on the air pods itself you can only choose to have it either activate Siri with the tap okay or pause and play your your track your music so you can't track you can't do you and you cannot do Siri and pause and play in the settings you have to choose one or the other and the other thing that we talked about right no skipping of tracks and no volume control none whatsoever no gestures it's a single tap tam pod that's in your ear it's i skipped rascal all the time pause Oh skip when you're working out all that walking to the bus sing all the time so what you're now gonna have to say hey hey Siri x phone next track or yeah go to your phone in this but that this they made that they made another product harder to use they will update that though they will fix that I'm sure they're already hearing every gesture ain't give me something give me a little swirly swirly or something just like an up-and-down motion just give me something but that this is to product to products in a row now to products in a row where they decided to make it slimmer and made our lives more actually made things more difficult we got courage Brian they have the courage courage to throw up throw up right now it's garbage all right let's go this shows all about you all so let's go hear your calls we love you and so let's see what you got cooking for us and again please call us to follow up your thoughts about apple's keynote and just some of the latest up that's happening alright first call hi brian this is matt from simi valley california i have an imac early two thousand nine and i went to do the upgrade to sierra and found out I couldn't do it is their big difference between El Capitan and Sierra thank you i would say this right for the most part i use mac OS sierra or Makos yeah basically the same i I don't know about everyone else but I don't really use the Siri voice search in it I think it's just because I was never used to talking to my computer but I think it can be super useful right to get like you're serious you know to locate files I don't do that I think the iCloud Drive is really cool but I use Dropbox so I don't really use that the feature that I haven't gotten used to that I should probably use the copy and paste where you copy from your phone and if you press paste on your lab your computer that works so that that that's a nice one unlocking my computer with my Apple watch it's like nice but do you really need that no I mean it's not not the end of the world so I think overall Apple pay on your computer through your phone and like these are all nice bells and whistles but I think fundamentally it works very st. a lot of the same I think the Vegas the biggest benefit that I felt like I got was when I put Sierra on my machine at work I only had like six gigs of storage space left when i installed it and let it do its thing I ended up I kid you not with 30 gigs of storage available and one of the reasons why it does that ciara doesn't take as much space also it stores some of the files that you don't use very often in to iCloud and then makes them excel for you when you need it so it kind of knows what what you're using the most and obviously when you work in media you have all these images and video files and stuff you don't access them all the time so the iCloud Drive is probably if you've never used dropbox it'll probably change your life if you've never used dropbox but but i use dropbox so i think it's a i think it's a nice upgrade even just from a performance optimization standpoint but look if you're ok right now Apple still hasn't released new Mac imax they haven't released new mac pros they haven't released new mac mini so if you're on the fence i would just wait till they do those more consumer-friendly upgrades and then go and then get a new computer with ciara and if you want to get the new macbook pro you could do that as well so thank that's my two cents on it cool yeah I think it's good i think it's good i don't i'm not like floored by it but i think it's a solid upgrade i think it's nice you haven't got to play with sheer marcos Sierra yeah you haven't played with Michaels have El Capitan ah yes see my friend my friend yes my friend I've copied on Michaels so okay next call sorry I'm stalling here it's okay my brains parting too we're gonna cut this one off halfway cuz its pretty long cities good evening all morning gentlemen my ass i'm coming from australia again let's make you guys a few weeks ago and left a message about deciding on whether or not to wait for the new macbook audit downgrade to a macbook air and I know the Brian you replied to me but I have to say that Apple guys like I just saw the keynote for a new macbook and guys I wasn't impressed I meant great tech love the touch bar love the touch ID fantastic technically I have to say the macbook pro even at 13 inch I think their price point is just way out of reach of most consumers I mean you buy one of those units here in australia i think when i was reading it on the apple store page it was something like two thousand seven hundred dollars australian just early learning in the touch goes on and that's a lie I think the prices even just the two-hundred-dollar bump people were like wait oh they increase the price of the macbook pros like what what is that still happens it doesn't stay the same at least when you thought they reached the ceiling know that that kid that can be frustrating so we feel your pain man I'd I feel it all the way so yeah okay let's go hey what's up Brian and the apple pie crew my name is will i'm from dallas i wanted to make a quick comment a feedback actually on 3d touch I had heard many of your comments in the past about how 3d touch is just under utilized and didn't seem like you had a lot of confidence that it will be around much in the future but I actually beg to differ on and I think it's not only super super useful but it is growing and the support specifically from third-party developers just give you a few examples google has a lot of their apps now use 3d touch in the native most of the native apps are now on board with it as well both from the home screen as far as quickly accessing features and also inside the app for the pecan pops and things of that nature so me personally I actually use these features every day and I don't kid when I say that and I think it's really really cool so I just want to get your thoughts on the possibility of this really being a platform as more and more third-party support and native put a native support or adding moving on in the future anyway thank you for your time every day love the call that was a legitimate call even the duration of the call was on you know I thought it was appropriate because you can't make it point I actually I agree with you I just feel like I don't use it enough but I think there's life there quite honestly with 3d touch in iOS 10 the number one feature i use it the most for is when before i used to i watch slingbox so i'm watching like NBA games when i'm traveling all the time and what used to happen is when someone would send me a text message if i wanted to respond to that crap it would take me out of the app stop my slingbox stream and then I'd have to restart it all over reconnect blah blah blah that's dumb now thanks to the magic of iOS 10 and 3d touch I push really hard on that little alert yeah and then the window pops up the stream is still playing underneath and I don't have to leave the app yes it's that that that pushin pot hey pika pop it's a push and pop you know 3d touch I was talking a couple weeks ago as I do it's in my way you know sometimes but I'm starting to realize there's the pressure sensitivity I'm starting to figure that out a little bit more so figure out oh if i push a little less hard than i can get to this and what you know so it's there's definitely a learning curve and i see its potential but i don't use it actually I wound up turning it off eventually yeah I i think as again my biggest gripe about is that it it works different ways depending on how you use it and i understand you know you're saying oh well you know you can the google app shows you a contextual menu of some of the things that does but again like every app is different i use it mostly for Shazam and now for when I'm watching slingbox and the fact that it exists is great but I honestly do think that you could have accomplished the same thing without actually a with just a long long press yeah you could you could if they wanted to even Google in their latest version of nougat has that but I don't at first I said is it dying I mean it's just kind of a question to pose and I'm glad I think there's a you're not the only one that uses every day I have plenty of cats my friends like dude why are you so down and I'm like I'm not down and I just don't use it as much as I thought I would and I was one of the most excited people about it when it first was announced I was like if I was like dude this game changer yeah it's a game changer like is the interface changer and I just think it hasn't reached its full potential yet and if it's something that takes a few you know more years to and all of a sudden everyone is using it then then it will be that game changer bite thought it would just move a little faster that's all but so thanks for the call doubt that was great stuff cool we got two calls left hi my name is ricky williams i have an iphone i'm blind and i want to know is there a better iphone voice assistance then series that i could put on my phone can you find that out for me hm i'ma let you take soon as you did the research baby oh yeah yeah just use google just talk to the google app but you say launch the google i'm peering launched it yeah you just say hey Siri launch my google app google app thank you just touch it or whatever say and then hey what's the best app to use for blind people if it'll help me to give me a whole bunch gave you a list give me a whole bunch of them yeah but Ricky me Ricky Williams you can again use Siri as the prompt to then launch the google app and then use the google i will tell you right now the google app for search and voice recognition is significantly better yes big-time that's why go to so i know it's an extra step but because you're visually impaired that is the way to get around with it and we want to show you some love so there you go thanks for calling cool cool alright last call what's up guys this is 1 t 2 from orlando florida ah a few shows bags you guys talked about deleted maps from your iphones i wanted to know why I being using map since I got my first iphone and ever have any issues with it and new version I've been blown away and how accurate the traffic updates are and it also recommends different routes to say some time on the go on the spot what am I missing out from google maps hoping my other question of the show guys please please well like you said it a lot of those features were on Google Maps away before they were not able like wait like you're like a year to two years more yeah so we're already used to using them and we're already like you know we're trained to use those already so why would we go try out another app that has a bad reputation for sucking yeah i would say i would say this also just to be fair and nice the reason why I I wanted to give Apple maps a really good try and when they first plugged in transit into the app it was great but then they took it away because it didn't it didn't work and so I was like me just okay recently yeah and then they put it back recently I'm when it first launched it just wasn't as accurate for routes so what it is it's more of a cumulative effect of when you start not necessarily trusting a nap as much and you know that another app just does the job for you and does it well you stop use that app that just could potentially guide you in the wrong place I I haven't I haven't made a decision to commit to like Oh use Apple maps for a month and nothing else maybe I should try that but I kind of don't want to maybe do it yeah you can make a video out of it into like you know I tried Apple maps for a month and here's what happened yeah but yeah I mean Google Maps was talking to you before Apple maps was it was also showing you different routes to go you know to get multiple routes yeah turtle routes it had transit yes I also has you could just click a button and go to google street view so you can see exactly where you're going also true they're I mean they're all these are all great there's so many thing but again this it wasn't like it happened six months before Apple where time a year to year three years some of this stuff so so that's why I'm not gonna hate on Apple maps but I just I prefer google maps just historically true true and that's all our calls man that's it we're done we dunzo we finished I've got a good topic for next week's show cool it kind of 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you ready to just incredible dude I was laughing too so I was almost like it was like there was like demon voices inside of your voice was like I was like she had to do guys wanted to see I saw him to see like 34 second I amazing I'm gonna next week I might try it one more time just to see if I can top that okay I was laughing too though that's why I was like oh if I'm not laughing I probably could take get we get further like trying hit 40 seconds or something that's great okay good job thanks man all right yeah maybe what's your time you next week and so I'm down I'm down time you guys notice I could do it all right everybody thanks so much for listening if you're still actually here you might not be it's okay all right we'll see y'all next time peace peace out oh man that's fine dude I was like oh wow this is going longer than I thought they're calling you