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hello CNET superfans I'm Jeff Bakalar with me on the stage right now is mr. robot star Carly shaken you might have seen her yesterday when she was our guest at sea that's next big thing panel on the smart home and Carly was nice enough to join us today as well hello Carly thank you so much for being here rotten floors for Carly shaken ladies gentlemen yeah that's nice that feels good yeah um so next big thing the panel you did yesterday that kind of surrounded the whole smart-home stuff obviously we talked I'm sure about that opening scene in the second season of your show mr. robot so like what what is that where does that come together I mean obviously that's like the way extreme sort of side of things yeah they had actually it said worst-case scenarios right like this is the apocalyptic sort of smart-home situation I mean what you know what are where does that tie in to like the real world sort of like application of smart-home stuff like I guess from your point of view having dealt with that topic a lot in the show I mean I think a lot of our shows kind of worst case scenario of how hacking and Technology can kind of affect the world / destroy it for sure um and I think I don't I think it kind of just plays into everybody's fear about you know what could happen and just having your kind of life hacked and taken over in your home and all that stuff and I think with everything going on about smart houses and all you know technology in the world today it's kind of I feel like it's kind of like a warning it is and I feel like it's it's never been more you know relevant in my in kind of like the world we're living in right now what I mean before you started on the show what was maybe from that point to now the thing you're able to take away the most are you are you like more paranoid now I feel like I might be I'm so much more paranoid and I also bet you know technology and hacking and any that stuff was never never even crossed my mind it wasn't something I thought about and so now since then it's kind of every room I walk into I'm like oh I could hack that no I could do that they said like your reconnaissance like every time you walk yeah or I think like people are constantly like recording me or watching me or tracking or something that I'm like now in my head everything is what's the worst case scenario and think it's actually happening right oh that doesn't sound like a lot of fun good life like that that's it's great it's great it's one of them definitely looking over my shoulder yeah who doesn't want to live like that um what what do you think maybe like the next generation of people who don't remember a world where everything wasn't connected like what do you think they're faced with it's so weird to me because I feel like you know I'm I was born in like 1990 I feel like I'm like kind of almost the last generation that experienced you know printing up MapQuest directions and not having a cell phone and you just pile up in the shotgun seat right can you get lost like there's nothing to do um and so it's crazy to me seeing all like younger kids living on iPads and learning on iPads and it really it really scares me I feel like there are a lot of the art of hand written things or reading a book or you know it is like lost for sure I think a lot of people kind of take umbrage with the fact that no one really knows how to develop a relationship with somebody yes like you can have a conversation as much as you want online and we can send little emojis back and forth and really express the way we feel about each other but you know sitting down at a bar with somebody and like observing someone's facial expressions in their body language that's going away and I don't know I just that kind of just like makes me wake up in the middle of a night it's crazy thinking you know when you go to a restaurant or go somewhere and be waiting for your friend you don't have your phone to play with or distract you and you know you kind of would just be looking around and sitting there but what did we do I don't know twiddled your son yes instead with the car butters yeah I don't know but I just you know now it's like we have this false sense of intimacy and relationships with people and connect you know a connection where we see you know pictures on Instagram and so I know what you did for Christmas so I don't feel the need to call you and ask you what you did for Christmas right um you know and I think so much of it is we feel so much more connected but at the same time we become more and more disconnected because we're not having actual human interaction yeah I worry that you know this overindulgence that we seem to be having with social media I don't know like do you think there's a way back from that yeah I mean this is oh you know so we're we're too far gone yeah it's over and we're done everyone yeah that was nice wild laugh yeah that was fun I don't know I just feel like uh you know the do you like I want to say yeah but cuz where do you know you just what take all that away because I think there there are so many benefits to social media for me personally I've been able to develop relationships with people via Twitter um and I think it gives people such a great way to reach out and have you know a bigger platform and a way to express themselves but you know there also is kind of the ability to hide behind a computer screen people think they can say whatever they want I think to me that's the scariest part yeah I mean I think you know I think when this exploded it's I think social media is the best and worst thing that's happened right agree simultaneously right um I don't know if there will be this sort I mean we are kind of like you know the guinea pigs for it where it's like oh look let's see if humanity can survive this right and then as the dust settles maybe they'll be you know sort of like a withdrawal of it a little bit I don't know like when you when you asked like I can we come back I make when they come back does that mean find a balance right I don't think we can find a balance for anything this world though apparently Wow shows really I'm so cynical I'm like we're all gonna die it's fine it's fine um so going back to the show mr. robot what I mean you know there's obviously the huge sort of socio-political you know impact that eff society has on the world you know the the culture sort of stuff I think a lot of that is also about privacy right like people kind of having the line blurred about what privacy what digital privacy is to people do you think we're living in a world now where people just have no sort of concept of the fact that they're giving that up unwilling not unwillingly but you know there's no sort of warning anymore it's just sort of I'll hit okay I'll scroll through that hit okay and move on I mean the biggest thing for me was when Pokemon go came up yeah and people would just accept it and do it and didn't realize that then their location their phone like everything in their phone everything that they were doing was being tracked right and everyone just wants to play games so they say okay nobody thinks about you know what they're actually signing themselves up for sure but I think you know and I kind of had the same thing about well I have nothing what do I care yeah if if someone you know hypothetically like has that information that meant a like I got nothing to hide right yeah about you know all those things about um even like not to get like so political but let's go all that you know with Snowden and and you know what and like exposing all that that it's like well I don't care if someone is listening and all my phone calls I'm not saying anything bad right and one of the one of the coolest things I actually did went to this like panel that he did via like robot okay but he was he was saying he was like you know saying that that you don't care is kind of like saying we don't need freedom of speech because I have nothing to say right and it's a slippery slope like that and I think that's something that the show really does a really good job at warning people about I think I think the reason mr. robot is so compelling is because it's not it doesn't really clamor eyes the entire situation and I feel like up until then the notion of hacking was this sort of like you know superhero s kind of thing like no it's real bad it's like real ugly people died you know it's the the the ramifications are intense well I think the coolest thing was you know season 1 the whole our goal is to have to start this revolution and to take down the 1% and you know what helped the 99% and take down like the biggest conglomerate and then you see that that we weren't you know it wasn't everything we thought it would be and the consequences that we suffered and you know the reality of that of kind of not being like oh we're superheroes and now everybody's saved and here's the real world about sometimes starting starting a revolution can do more damp like thinking you're doing that can do more damage and all these things with technology and so you know I feel like everything that's going on is a catch-22 all these things that you know people think are helping or benefiting even like social media there's always that like double-edged sword of it all right it's a it's a fine line to walk absolutely McCarter this has been fantastic thank you so much for being here round of applause for carly everybody