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New iPad Pro/Apple Pencil 2 rumored for second half of 2017? (Apple Byte Extra Crunchy, Ep. 68)

2017-01-19
we are live from Giant Bomb Cass Podcast Giant Bomb podcast studio in San Francisco California see a provide extra crunchy podcast with your host mr. Brian Tom what's up everybody welcome welcome to the show believe it or not we haven't done one and I checked the calendar Beecham yeah one month and three days a month and three days people are being thirsty they were tweeting me like they were thirsty they're like yo where's Apple bite actual crunchy where are you guys at what are you doing okay let's explain ourselves Steven can you tell them where we have been like this whole time we had Christmas we had Christmas break that's like a week and a half we open gifts we had a lot of fun New Year's yes and we had a new year's time then we went to Las Vegas to the CES Consumer Electronics Show and then after that Brian Tom went home and I went to Detroit you were in Detroit for another week for natalier that yes at the Auto Show which was really cool actually so do that math it's four weeks we're gone we're here we are back we want to jump into the show and let you know it's been a month and probably the phone calls you left us a month ago probably aren't that dated a little outdated so we want to start a clean slate and get you all back in on in the drill you can call us at 1-866-376-8255 is all over the place Apple did a software fix that is still only available in beta right now it's still not available to the public the moment of this recording so we still know exactly how that's gonna affect everyday users but look I'm gonna tell you why you should just wait for the new MacBooks in 2017 kaby lake processors this is the new family of intel processors that were announced basically at CES on january 2 the third they're going to give you basically all the performance improvements that you wanted and we're hoping for that you didn't get from the first generation so we have the touch bar we can the touch bar still I think is a lukewarm feature everyone I talk to is like I'm gonna use it I don't really use it it's actually more annoying I don't like the personally I don't like the fact that there's no actual haptic feedback on it when you touch something you kind of want to know that it's registering a click especially if it's on a keyboard like your laptop you know it still doesn't have that not every app is really using it the best way but some people love it because you can at least customize some of the quick actions that you jump to anyways the new MacBook Pros that are expected to come out this year 2017 most likely around the August September timeframe will use cabbie Lake processors why do you want that kaby Lake brings you a 20% improvement in performance it also uses less power consumption which means more battery life and the 15-inch model will support a 32 gig Ram option for pros one of the kind of the big blackeyes that pros were like hey not only did you take away our ports this is just like a standard machine with the processing power that just isn't all that yeah yeah hearing that of that complaint from a lot of people that's just not as fast i I implore you if you were thinking about a MacBook Pro with the touch bar just wait I'm sure your current laptop will last you at least another year I'm sure of that yeah I mean before this laptop even came out you're telling everyone maybe wait for the second iteration you kinda you say that with every product unless but almost you know yeah cuz they always Apple always screws up the first of all I was the first to buy the iPad pro I was the further you got burned got burned three months later with their true tone display Beate I'm gonna do something about that Apple anyways um MacBook Pros I know Apple loyalists are like dude why are you telling people not to buy eggs you heard those three reasons 20% better performance better power battery consumption and 32 gig ram support so when when is this option going to come out I'm guessing most likely in the fall that's typically when they do their laptop refresh so it's about let's give it a 7 7 months or so 7 8 months all right be patient guys you can live first world hashtag first world problems to go to hashtag also Apple we talked about the battery issues that were plaguing them apples fourth beta of Makos Sierra ten point twelve point three has this new added feature that it warns you if your display brightness is higher than 75% it actually shows you a warning you can either choose to manually turn it down or excuse me automatically have it turn down the brightness to save power so they're basically telling you when your bright screen is too bright it's gonna be using more battery power than you'd like I'm looking at my screen right now I am easily over 75% is it warning use it say no Brian turn it down it's not because I don't have the beta but I would say most people probably have the brightness of their screen over 75% always I always like and then when you unplug it you know it'll turn itself down a little bit yeah but then I'll just turn it back up exactly I live dangerously my battery life you're such a rebel jump you're so crazy on my PC it does the same thing I'm like No turn up turn up turn up alright iPhone use because you want it you want to hear the latest rumors uh this is again you've probably heard a lot of this stuff but we're just kind of catching you up to speed then we can start talking about other stuff but the iPhone 8 could now potentially according to a report introduced facial recognition now this is the first time we've heard of something like this but why would this be advantage advantageous we we know that Apple acquired prime sense this was the company that was responsible for the Kinect camera on the Xbox it had a depth sensor array of different cameras in there to be able to see the world around you that's actually really important for augmented reality that's also one of the big initiatives that Tim Cook cannot stop talking about like I feel like he's said it at every recent interview like we like augmented reality thanks for keeping things a secret thanks for making things exciting and cool Tim like really just tell us everything you're doing already so that that is why that could be important again we haven't seen any reports about this it's a rumor it may or may not be true but what is pretty much been solid now while the reports are aligning with the fact that we will see the standard 4.7 inch iPhone we will see the standard 5.5 inch iPhone right so those will most likely be the 7s line of phones but everyone is pointing to the fact that we will see a premium 5.8 inch OLED iPhone not only that reports are saying that it will be roughly based or pretty much take design cues from the iPhone 4 that was my favorite iPhone of all time we've talked about in the past episode of that I from a metal frame two pieces of glass super sexy let's let's take away the whole antenna gate stuff that happened with there let's pretend like that hadn't happened right but the actual design is amazing some people like I don't like the fact that the glass shattered on the back well guess what how many times your screen shatter anyways Gorilla Glass has improved significant conservation since then they'll have to make some sort of shatterproof glass we're gonna go back to that design design there I mean the the Samsung Galaxy s7 did have some shadow problems if you dropped it but it was a sexy beast and let's be honest are you really are you iPhone users out there not going to buy an eye for the next-gen iPhone just because it has a glass backing you're gonna buy it and how many people are cruising around with an iPhone without a case I mean plenty you're crazy if you're doing that I mean you know plenty of people are doing that that's that's living dangerously steep that's very dangerously so I'm all for this new design also the fact that it would be enable with by getting rid of that aluminum backing it would enable the phone to do wireless charging one of the mmm in the year 2017 cool Apple will bring wireless charging to the table thank you finally like four years later finally it's either and might be for now it sounds bad when was the first phone that was charged while it was hold on actually I believe it was the Palm Pre pump was one of the very first phones that had wireless charging you all can check me on that YouTube or periscope but I believe it was the Palm Pre that was like then please tell us the year - if you can in the chat I'll look it up online we're talking we get we don't we don't have the resources or brainpower to keep up with that so I'm excited about that and this new iPhone premium edition we'll see what they call it you know what we like to call it iPhone X iPhone X or iPhone future so so it's gonna be like a very big iPhone 4 which I which I'm not I don't I which is cool but I don't want a 5.8 inch phone to be the printable phone neither do I that is gonna be dog doo-doo it's gotta be smaller gave me that design in a smaller form factor we're just talking about based on the reports we've heard we don't know any of this no one really knows any of what is official until it's official so again we're just pontificating but don't give me don't make the premium phone a 5.8 inch one don't that's stupid like that doesn't fit in my pant like my pocket literally can't support a 5.8 inch phone my giant hands can't hold it properly I have learned how to balance my phone though my iPhone 6 cuz it's too big I can't get my hands around it I'm like good at balancing it now but you know good luck good luck with that now we adapt good luck with that all right let's take a break cuz guess what we've got a sponsor and I've actually used this product whether you're busy professional couple a large family that runs at a breakneck pace or someone who simply wants to start cooking more check it out our friends at hellofresh make it easier tastier and healthier than ever to enjoy the experience of cooking new recipes and eating together at home this is really cool because you can go to their website you have different options you 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the entire year for all headphone manufacturers based on that first report they said that they took up 26% of all online sales of wireless headphones ok think about that they were on sale for three weeks versus other companies like Sony and LG and Sennheiser they even topped beats which are at fifteen point four percent and then Bose came in at 16.1% this is for online sales only but then but then I know beat you're like damn that's crazy Wow but then NPD data was like well actually we take the receipts of both brick-and-mortar stores and online sales how what percentage do you think earpods came in at once NPD decided to step in and be like hey guys here's a little reality oh man that's a tough one like this is the rotted number fifteen percent maybe you could you could try maybe try a little lower than that I'm gonna 10% you could go you know that how about two percent to two percent market share now that's obviously significantly lower than the twenty five percent number that were 26 percent number that was thrown around initially again this is brick-and-mortar and online sales but let's put this in perspective again they were on sale arguably for I'm gonna be generous and say two and a half weeks it's like not even before Christmas naughty yeah it was like rules right before the other day but it was like right before the end of the year but then if you look at other manufacturers or other competitors you have someone like Bose who through the course year made up 8% you know Plantronics you know j-bird they a for the year sold 2% so that's actually pretty incredible that the air pods in just that small amount of time this was able to match based on MPD's data to establish brands that have been selling to headphones for the entire year yeah it makes sense because you know when you buy headphones you're not really in the market for another pair of headphones anytime soon so and also air pods were so new and a high very high-profile product so that makes sense and I did see a lot of them at CES and I saw them at Detroit and I didn't hate him I was like oh yeah you're kind of like you kind of get over it you're like I could afford him you can beeps had a 25% unit sales share again Apple at 2% bows at 8% LG had 10% Sony at 7 and then like I said Plantronics in j-bird went around 2% where Apple is now neck and neck with them but it's kind of an interesting thing of how much momentum they've been able to gain and let's just be honest that is the power of the freakin Apple brand totally there is nothing like really Wireless hair earbuds headphones have been around for quite some time and even talking to some of my co-workers that are like oh yeah I've never had wireless headphones when they are almost introduced the idea of wireless earbuds thanks to Apple just talking about them so again the power of the brand in other new products coming out what about that Apple pencil a shaky sketch sketchy get it sketchy rumor hey pencil sketchy did I really have to call that out it's pretty good good job Ryan thanks loser sketchy supply chain rumor claims Apple pencil 2 will be launching along side new iPad pro models this year a recent report also pegged that iPad pro models are gonna get delayed a little bit and come out sometime in the mid the second half of 2017 we were expecting to maybe around a march/april timeframe they typically bring them up in the first kind of quarter of the year but that doesn't appear to be the case the iPad pro also for this coming year is expected to have a 12-point 9-inch my big boy my big bertha nice nine point seven inch will be the entry-level model and then rumored 10.5 inch with thinner bezels on the side I'm like okay that's fine everyone watches like dude I got my iPad I'm good no rocking the third generation so here's the thing about the Apple pencil - that they're talking about there's been a variety of patents and new features for example one of them was this Smart Cover integration where the Smart Cover could be like a drawing pad another one was using Tim Cook's like we've already been testing the Apple pencil for use on the iPhone oh that makes me sad yeah why would you do that not only why would I do that in the phone if you all look up online there is a classic moment of Steve Jobs if you just look up Steve Jobs stylist ah where he talks about he's like nobody wants a stylus you gotta put it in you lose it yak but this isn't a stylist it's a pen it's a little pen so you're right app opens so they also have a pen for using the Apple pencil or a stylus type device on a MacBook trackpad mmm to then use with your Mac sorry not a MacBook trackpad a Mac trackpad so they've been playing around with all these different ideas who knows if that's what the Apple pencil two will support to me it's like you just open up a can of worms you've got to come up with more in or UI more OS functionality - all of a sudden integrate a pencil stylus into all of your products it seems a little silly that Apple would do that but again this is not the Apple we know it's not the Apple we know it's a totally new Apple what do you think about that whole idea that I think it's it's silly I mean no one's the pen is gonna be longer than the phone first of all that's gonna be kind of funny we're gonna keep the pen you know maybe maybe telephony I could tell him the funny thing about it is people would still buy it oh for sure see I love that you see how that people would like hey I got my cool long pencil with my phone I'll see someone riding on in the bus and I'll just look at him and glare at them you just look at him with judgy eyes yeah I saw a funny tweet this morning and it said like apples apples sales plan for 2017 is all jet-black iPhone jet black Apple pencil a jet black MacBook you know zile jet black everything it's not gonna be in it's probably not that far from the truth yeah I'm Apple though trying to reinvent themselves and do different things I think based on what we've seen let me just throw this out here as a talking point yes you and I were both at CES mm-hmm the things that you saw at CES Tim for me I felt like Apple isn't in n is in none of the hot categories that were at CES yes there are nowhere to be found in any of the hot categories our CS CES I'm not saying CES is the end-all be-all but things like the smart home like yes anymore Apple has a smart home product but nothing on nothing on the level of the Amazon echo let's just throw that out there um virtual reality we didn't see much we don't you know yeah virtual reality it's like space is still figuring itself out yeah so freaking what else what else like obviously autonomous cars house cars were everywhere everywhere there was robots everywhere robot assistants a lot of the only thing that we really talked about that was Apple related was Siri at CES you know to be able to control things control your home and stuff but that's that's about it and that's not really like a physical product no yeah I I just found it interesting that a lot of the hot things that I was excited about especially the smart home integration you know Apple just doesn't have a product and I've said this even two years ago when the echo came out that was a product that is created a new platform a new market a new ecosystem and that's what Apple used to do Alexa was in everything it's in cars was anything car every other speaker refrigerators yeah everyone it's it's the new it's the new tech plus crazy it's the new tech platform and you know just a little perspective it was surprising because I thought that Google home would have a chance to really catch up to Alexa and at CES it really made the gap of partnerships and third-party relations that Google has the gap used to be like oh here it's like here now it's like it's huge so Google is even behind yeah so Google may be smarter from a algorithm and understanding standpoint but Alexa is more than good enough but also has all this third party integration lie I just got a harmony hub then I'm gonna just be like turn on Netflix and it's gonna be able to do like turn on your TV you're receiving a night off I need that I'm like oh I need like but I'm gonna call it Netflix and chill Alexa Netflix and chill I need it for my kids right just come home and say turn on paw Patrol and I just start playing paw patrol from Amazon Prime or something that would be cool but then that then my that would empower my kids just just start turning crap on movies and stuff so I want to throw this out Apple is trying to figure out new ways to do things one of them is with content we've talked about the past that they did fail for a TV streaming service we've also talked about how they've lined up two shows one is they're basically have the rights to carpool karaoke without James Corden but they'll be doing their own version on their Apple music service which I there's it's just not gonna be as cool it's just not gonna have the same magic unless you combine two music artists together of different genres that could be cool the problem is that artists don't necessarily because artists are artists they don't necessarily get along right now and they don't want to sing another artist so you like you have to coordinate is like a neutral party yeah you know and he's also not afraid to like make an idiot of ya rock stars are trying to be cool exactly so you're right it's just not going to be this it's gonna be weird the other one was dr. Dre's a biopic vital signs which reportedly had an orgy in it oh so actually maybe Stephen might do a trial subscription about do you have Apple music I forgot I I tried it in the beginning in the night yeah got rid of it it was good it was good not great nothing like I'm like I gotta have this now so check this out Apple has been talking with Hollywood executives and we know this but they're trying to post new original content in the form of not only those two series we talked about but TV shows and movies that they claim would be on the same quality level as Westworld and stranger things it's like yeah let's throw like the two hottest shows out there and just say our stuffs gonna be like that yeah yeah we go that's kind of seems silly to do something like that you know well this could be even sillier Beach they they want to create this new content that's TV show and movie related but they don't want to put it on like their Apple TV app or anything they want to put it on the Apple music app they want to put you behind Apple music to watch their exclusive programming and in that well why would they do that so that's your first and gut instinct is why like um so it's Apple music there's an Apple TV I have the Apple TV app on my phone so that makes sense that I would go there to watch Apple TV productions yeah what one again one way of thinking of this is they're trying to boost their spot of their subscription service why right hey pay ten bucks not only do you get Apple music you get these great shows I'm like I'm sorry there are tons of other great shows everywhere else okay so they're gonna bundle this together they want Apple you some of this exclusive programming or they're gonna nitpick and like pick and choose not certain things no not even so they from what all reports are saying and what Apple is talking is that they want these TV shows and movies to only appear on the Apple music service which if the shows are good enough and Buzz were they would hope that you people like you and me would then subscribe to Apple music and they don't at the moment they're not planning to change the name of it either it's a mistake they're trying to make it like a little bit of everything so I have a solution for them I talked about in last week's show look Apple all you really have to do is buy Netflix let let Netflix do what they do incorporate their programming into the Apple TV or just leave the Netflix app the way it is and post put your shows on Netflix because that's where people are gonna watch them yeah like don't overthink this bro hi you know what don't let Netflix be Netflix just buy them and put your shows on there or you are sitting on two hundred billion dollar I know I've cash or they could be like Netflix and what Netflix is doing and all like TV movie movie studio directors and actors are like oh my god Netflix is just throwing out cash right now yeah like they're giving directors like we want you to make an awesome show we're not going to get in your way yeah we're going to give you this big chunk of money you go do ever you want to do right and we're not gonna get in your way make it as screwed up dark violent whatever you want you know and and all these movie directors and actors are like oh this is great I'm going to Netflix yeah you know even like Chris Rock got like 40 million dollars to do like two comedy specials or something right so look at people who didn't have a platform on mainstream TV like Aziz Ansari yes perfect example and and all these actors and directors want to go to Netflix because they know that the culture there is that where they're gonna get complete backing complete like do whatever you want you know and apples like we're gonna do carpool karaoke they're already trying to put my god they're already trying to put barriers around all their shows and like they're already trying to make you know put everything in a slot yeah and then put it on a platform where it doesn't even make sense so look I recall I can't I'm someone's gonna have to correct me on this because I used to have the number Netflix invested something like somewhere around like a billion dollars in content for last year and I think they were gonna bump that up I don't want to say too but I feel like it might be like one and a half definitely more than a billion more this year and for 2017 they're smart they're they are just giving us what is it that we want content okay this can so no matter what Apple tries to do you're not gonna tell me Netflix has a deal with Disney Civil War and Zootopia and Jungle Book are on Netflix right now bro the only is rad I like that movie bro you need to get on Netflix already now I'm a sliding on the head III borrow a friend's account now I just watch spies like us oh my god watch that cuz right right now we're in like this Cold War era you gotta go watch that movie because I'm funny and is on Netflix you know kids if you don't know what we're talking about trust us spies like us it might be just a little oh it's one of the one of the that's when comedy comedy holds up for sure anyways again Apple trying to get in the business of content I doesn't excite me because they already want to put it behind their Apple paywall and i'm sorry it took us that long to get to that point but yeah it's you know there's nothing exciting about putting two behind Apple music they gotta hire someone who's willing to just let actors and directors do what they want and make this awesome stuff then they'll be winning Emmys like Amazon and Netflix are there they're winning Golden Globe Awards Amazon is doing like Netflix is going bonkers right Amazon has carved a nice little niche and reward when he's they've got some cool stuff yes right yeah but let's just that the whole dynamic between Netflix and Amazon shows you how tough it really is that Amazon a company that bundles their programming with an Amazon Prime service right yeah it's not like they're getting 30 top-tier shows they're being very selective picking and choosing and they do have some great shows but if you match up Amazon shows compared to Netflix I mean come on where are you going where you gonna go like if you had to pick one or the other where you're gonna go you already know the answer to that Hulu Apple music is music is the correct answer for carpool karaoke and vital signs yes and this depth is Danny the dr. Dre show to this by Netflix already just just do it this is the best advice you could ever get all right you know um so we wanted we're gonna wrap things up here but again we just want to let you know call us be a part of the show let's talk about what you expect from Apple the future but more anything are you excited about the future of Apple I think that we've gotten to the point where we need to ask this question and talk about it a couple years ago I said is Apple lost their magic everyone was pissed at me no you know it's the conversation you want to have to and I'm not trying to talk down though let's be real here so um let's hear what you guys have to say guys and gals I'd love to hear that call us right now yeah they're not in this studio yeah yeah so Thursday's 2 o'clock p.m. PST Pacific time and you'll find us on YouTube livestream and periscope and periscope and possibly some other places in the future but Oh working on that working Beechum's always working all right that's the beach and tong show for this week we'll see you guys take care be safe peace
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