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we are alive from giant bomb studios on the first floor in san francisco california it's the apple byte extra country podcast with your host mr. brian Tong what up what up everybody welcome to the show it is a new place a new vibe a new feeling I'm looking around I don't even I'm far away from steven i can't see what what i look like like he controls all the cameras i see nothing this is episode 53 of the apple byte extra crunchy again the show is all for you if you want to call us and leave your voicemails by the because i mentioned it last week we had a boatload of calls phone number is 1 800 61 62 63 8 that is to leave your name where you're from and your comment question or your bad apple get into it so we can actually recall you guys are guys and gals are still calling away too long it's like way too long we have some minute long call longer than a minute yeah longer than a minute it's like get to it but get to it so look this week is the week really we're about four or five days before apple's keynote that is happening on sep tember the 7th that is going to be this coming wednesday at ten a.m. pacific time in san francisco at the bill graham civic center is it the civic center auditorium or is it to the civic center i think it's the civic center auditorium i believe so so we're all amped about this this is an official you know officially officially happening after all these rumors and all this weight and I've got to tell you right now beach that the timing of what has happened outside of Apple could not have been more perfect yeah for them to have this keynote next weekend for all of the you going like oh I know what he's talking about I'm talking about this this note is on fire literally literally on fire um you know it I'm not gonna say it happens it has happened to ipods and iphones in the past that are exploding but they never did a recall they've never done a recall because of the number of cases it's been pretty minor i mean we know that lithium ion batteries have the potential to explode but from what it appears samsung officially has recalled their entire flight of notes Evans up to this point what they said is that there were 35 documented cases up to this point where notes Evans had actually exploded that's over the amount of 2.5 million units sold up to this point and so look there be no sorry see that number again how many how many sold or how many have exploded oh if you have that I have that number for you 35 okay that warrants a recall for sure you might have a handful here there but this is 35 out of and someone's like oh I have 2.5 million but this is an issue that can plague any company and my hunch i have samsung is not revealed the details of why it's happening if it's a specific supplier if it's a specific connector or chip or a factory that made a certain batch of batteries that are having a tendency to overheat we don't know the specifics they have officially state put out a statement for recall my hunch is that and people that have used the phone say it does get warm over time but we have just what about how it's just an amazing phone technically and there's so many things going on with it and I just wonder if that screen that amazing screen that makes it so special in combination with that battery has just made the phone too hot over time possibly I don't know we don't know where were these batteries are notoriously dangerous though I mean like hoverboards just had a big up aboard low battery I've actually had an iphone 3gs the battery like expand inside oh yeah so it was like three years old so the phone like kind of bursts open right yeah like I hopped open but it had been turned off for a while I was having problems with it you know it was more than three years old and it been turned off for a while and I turned it back on and I tried to charge it yeah I'd like expanded inside the phone and then it was done yeah and so we'll wait and see what happens the reason why this is perfect timing for Apple come on let's be honest Samsung has all the momentum right now as of well as of today they did or as of yesterday they did I mean they're coming out with products the s7 phone built momentum then the note 7 really again technically feature wise the best phone of 2016 and ones like the iPhone you know whatever we may or may not upgrade it well now it's kind of looking like apples going to be about least mentally psychologically and from a marketing standpoint kind of turn the tables you've got to it believe they're gonna say something about the batteries oh for sure they're gonna have some little like why some wit some little bit wisecracking there about that but they to me they can't because their products have exploded as well like we just did like a month ago or within a month we had the guy that was on his bike and he fell on his butt yeah and his battery exploded on his leg because the impact and went boom that's that's dangerous that's know about that is dangerous so um we'll see how this recall falls you know comes into play they really have are jumping on it now I'm just curious of this story of this recalls gonna go beyond a couple weeks or if it's gonna be an issue with other products out there that's gonna last more you know a few months cuz you want to just nip this in the bud if your Samsung yeah yeah well well last week it's funny because we were talking about iphone possibly having the recall because the touch the touch disease problems disease but it makes more sense that this is dangerous like fire causing fires and stuff so it makes more sense that they would recall it you know rather than the iphone having a loose microchip yeah but it's you know they can't apple also though they can't go they can't go too deep into samsung meaning apple had antennagate okay yeah Steve Jobs said you're holding the damn phone wrong and then they issued cases for everyone okay it's funny they they didn't have to do a recalled at the time people were calling for a recall an apple basically did everything in their power to be like you know what if we give people free cases at least we won't have to recall the phone and it won't be as bad and no one has ever said Apple recalled phones right you you want to do everything but recall the phone quite honestly right so Apple can't get diggin on them and then with this whole touch disease issue we'll talk about it later in the show but there's a class action lawsuit and we'll get into some of the details with that who but people are like hey this is not right either and we'll see how they respond or don't respond because there's a lot of people out of warranty that have been left in the dust by that so like we said perfect timing for Apple to kind of swoop in this is that time of the year where everyone's trying to figure out what phone to get if that note 7 was that you know the ideal phone and now people are gonna there's going to be a percentage of people that say uh I'm worried about it I'm going to maybe just end up getting another iphone for a year now hmm right there's going to be a majority I'm not a majority a slice of the segment of techies and people buy up during the phone that are going to do that now well do we know what Samsung's doing like they're recalling the phone where they're going to replace it or give you a new battery are they just taking back the phone and get they said they're gonna replace said they will replace the phone okay with a different is gonna have a different battery in a problem well whatever back yeah whatever they identify we really just don't know they have not specifically outlined the plans of the recall the details of which models are affected or not they're just saying we're doing a recall so we'll just have to keep posted on that but it does affect the overall Apple story now let's look back at this invite though this is the fun parts that we like to decode the Apple invites so for those of you watching that don't have access to a computer if you've seen the apple invite it's a lot of blurred out kind of background lights with a black background that um form the shape if you don't have eagle eyes like like btz does can you can you identify that shape Beachum I don't come on come on don't see a shape okay what if I did I see when I when I this is what I think I'm gonna see when I die just like yeah it's like disintegrating what if i told you that is the top of the apple logo can you see it now oh yeah yeah i see yeah see all right eagle eyes okay nice one up on you now there's other Apple always likes to bury hints within their invites and we've heard a lot about this chatter about a DSLR like dual lens camera system coming to the next iPhone okay so you can see that blurred out effect with the lights in the background that's what is referred to as the bouquet effect bouquet bouquet is that what you throw at weddings know the no I throws at weddings and see a lot of people are getting mad because like people mispronounce you know do not pronounce this properly there's plenty of mispronunciations like bouquet bouquet it's supposed to be from what I gather bow k bouquet you guys can correct me on that but uh because the way everyone knows like the whole jif gif 88 here at there are plenty of the tomato tomahto I mean even that's been a life that's been that's been a lifelong debate so that's that effect is specific to DSLR cameras shallow depth of field being able to blur out parts of the image by using a DSLR lens that's another hint but look if you look carefully there's also these like two like white dots kind of like a little off left center you see that on the logo yes yes could those could that mean there's a dual lens camera lens camera yeah we're really digging too yep is that a reach or not is that a reach now you know you're not reaching it could be possible they always tried it you know do something funky with this and then in addition the invite is dark black so everyone's talking about hey maybe low light photography low light photography yeah Beachum is not buying beef is not buying any of this I just you know it's funny it's funny how people parse this it's an invite it's it's literally an invite and these are people that have nothing better to do with their lives like myself so again the event will happen next week wednesday we'll have our live coverage live show it'll be a little different because we're in this studio someone on periscopes like bow k ka why I've heard bouquet I'm gonna say but we're gonna kabak wet it's not Boak wet we're gonna let the internet decide this not us okay we're gonna let the internet decide this but just a few little quick nuggets about the iphone 7 upcoming things that we haven't heard yet and you're probably just you probably want to throw up when you hear about the stuff but i'm just gonna run through them okay spec sheets rumored spec sheets from away bulb lot microblogging site have shown that the iphone 7 will potentially come with 256 gigs of swords as the iphone 7 plus booya according to the spec sheet we already have heard rumors about the minimum 32 gigs which is a good thing finally after all these years but also the details on the back of this again rumored specs sheet have indicated that there is going to be a light earpods apples current headphones earpods with a lightning connector okay so wired ear pods but also there will be a lightning to 3.5 millimeter jack adapter that is supposedly allegedly included in this box as well that's nice so hey they're covering your butt's until you lose them in you have to pay twenty dollars from that's nice also just kind of set reading the tea leaves Apple has been granted product certifications specifically for two new iPhones also though for products with the name air pods mm-hmm what could that be the Eurasian Economic Union has approved that and ear pods is also a u.s. trademark that Apple using kind of the shell company this fake company apply for back in October so I've got to imagine that we're gonna see the air pods at apple's keynote well I mean what do you think I hope so I mean I'm way down you know like we already did the whole dick uh you'll owe me a pair of bluetooth headphones that didn't fit my ears just in familiars either but yes if they are the current ipod ear pods that are bluetooth I'm sold see I will wear them I'll get them I will use them as well now here's here's another fun little thing that we don't know what it's how it's going to come together but there have been these headphones that were kind of showed off at CES this year for the first time from a company called Bragi okay they're called the Bragi dash headphones and these are literally what you would imagine wireless bluetooth earbuds to be like with touch-sensitive controls okay on the actual earbud so not on these big knock you know these cans that I have in my ears also the ability to track your heart rate through your ears okay that's cool well on bra gi's Twitter account they announced that they have big news sep tember fifth which is monday of next week in cupertino at 10am where and Cupertino is the obviously the home of Apple computers now everyone starts trying to put these pieces of the puzzle together I don't know it would make sense that Apple has some sort of a partnership with Bragi just because they're ahead of the curve on this also at the same time I always imagined Apple doing their own headphones like it wouldn't is Yahoo just gonna sell their headphones and Apple stores why where does Bragi come they have beats where does Bragi come from it's so random is it just for the Bluetooth technology probably they're trying to the design is very Apple right and my hunt my hunch is that Bragi is kind of leveraging the fact that the apple keynote is happening on the Wednesday they're playing up to the hype and that they'll announce maybe that their headphones will be sold in Apple stores right like first major retail distribution so Apple stores branching out and just letting they sell other products right like cases and stuff but that never had fun other than beats no headphone phones or other kind of peripheral back in the day they used to but you're right they kind of day for what little time for a small time they actually removed bows from their shelves oh really yeah and then brought him back because like everyone buys bows like what are you doing what are you doing Apple uh but maybe the other the other thing could be what if they were in a partnership or what if Apple is acquiring Bragi to be basically the in-house bluetooth headphones that will become the air pots that's a possibility as well that's cool I mean looking at that video the design looks awesome the design is slick yeah it's super sleigh according to other reports leaked out beats products will debut new headphones alongside the iphone 7 on wednesday that is pretty much assumed to be some sort of beat headphones with a lightning connection and then another little tidbit is that the iphone 7 might have we always talk about these colors of all these phones it might again might have a fifth color that they're bringing the table deep blue is out which you are fan of ah come on no deep blue till midnight blue no midnight blue you my boy ah my boy blue but they will have gold silver space grey rose gold we all like rose gold and a new glossy black according to this leaked picture of SIM tray the little sim tray slot gloss black sounds cool I don't know I want to know what the people think I'm just gonna let people listening right now China was what would be their favorite color from those five I mean what I like the gloss black honestly well as as a person who always wears black t-shirt I'm probably gonna roll with the end black shoes yeah gloss black is probably gonna be mice well well well I thought your rose gold Beecham no way I've been like okay you know how lame i am I've been like trying to find the 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lines up if we just kind of quickly wrap this up an Apple watch too with no LTE chip so that means it is still going to be dependent on our phone which is the big bummer but Apple tried to make that the big innovation for this next one they said the cellular chips available today would not allow them to maintain enough of the battery life for the device that they wanted so this phone this Apple watch excuse me will only come with a GPS chip which is still cool so you can eliminate a you know your phone at least for gps tracking if you're running routes or trails but also have a better waterproofing faster processor and better battery life and of course we're most definitely gonna see new watch band so I'm I'd the biggest for everyone that has listened to me the biggest part about the new Apple watch order the current Apple watch is gonna be watch os3 watch shows uno watch this dos tres oh that's the bigot that that's a game changer for the Apple watch so I it sucks because I got a review these products beach him like should i buy another Apple watch I don't know I was here I was I was so tempted the other day because I don't know if anyone follows a cheapskate yeah but there was a deal when 99 yeah I work for Apple watch which is really good deal do I deserve this yeah and I think they sold out really yeah that's why I think that's why I had them for 190 even for a limited time I thought someone asked me about it and I said yeah do it that's what that's worth it yeah 194 a current Apple watch with a new watchos trace watch those threads what thoughts traits you got to do it uh looking down the road what's coming in october i was under the kind of thinking that we'd see ipads and macs together the October event and yes Apple has done back-to-back events in the past but what I want it but what I think is happening is that well not what I think what Bloomberg the thinks and what other people are saying is that we're only going to see macbooks and Mac upgrades in general in October so according to the report mark Gurman and company new macbooks and iMac and get this a new apple display are expected they're working on right now but at least a majority of these products will be announced in October apple's mac book pro right with the oled touch bar we have talked about this a bunch it's that OLED bar that's kind of replacing your row of function keys it will morph and change and adapt different button commands depending on the app you're actually using that will be a part of it also a new macbook air laptop with USB sea ports that are more multifunctional in addition they say that there will be an imac a new imac but that you'll have an option to upgrade its graphics card with a and with an AMD graphics card that'll be kind of one of the bill to order options that makes it different but the big thing is LG and Apple have been according to this report working together and collaborating for a standalone 5k monitor Wow a 5k apple display stay with me 5k apple display nice a lot of people been calling us and asking us like what's going on with the display so that's good news for them yeah so with all that Mac action and let's not forget one of the key elements of this working is something that ties it all together our good friend Mako's Sierra haha I gotta give the answer handsome like a music thing you know machal see we can work on that yeah I know what we'll figure it out so where does that leave the iPad according to this report as well the iPad may roll out new software features this would include enhancements that are part of the current iOS 10 but specific to the new iPad it'll have improvements to the Apple pencil which allow it to do handwriting I mean you know not allow it to do handwriting it already can but it'll be aimed more towards professionals in addition allowing users like ourselves to annotate objects and be used across multiple core applications kind of like a what the note does before it exploded so I'm just kidding guys come on don't don't get all mad don't get your panties in a bunch when I say that so we'll see how that plays out also the new iPad hardware that is believed to be working on and will be released next sometime next year not this year would include faster display technology that would allow for smoother zooming panning and scrolling but again according to the report they're not expecting to update the iPad this year but instead next year and we've heard also rumors of three different iPad sizes potentially next year the current 12.9 a new 10.5 inch and then a 9.7 inch and no talk of a mini oh no talk of a mini to speak I quite the bike how was the mini now I feel like it's about before the since they've updated it I feel like it's been here two or three years maybe more like to I mean from a form factor standpoint nothing's like significantly change I feel like it's like around two years but don't quote me on that alright so we will see but that I'm not saying it makes me feel better because I didn't want to buy another iPad this year well after I was screwed from a true tone display four months later ah this make just make you feel bad yeah I don't you feel icky I hate I went through it man you went through it you felt my ipad 3rd gen ipad 3 jay-z yeah so we'll see what happens um we also want to follow up on the touch disease lawsuit that is now in play right this is the touch disease issue where there has been from I fix it they documented it in detail how specific chips internally in the iphone 6 integrated circuit chips a become loose over time and prevent the touch display from working after we reported about this and we kind of piggyback on what other people are talking about let's be real everyone's talking about it now I can't tell you how many tweets people said oh my gosh my iphone 6 stopped working it was out of warranty and ended up going back to my 4s Wow I had at least four or five people men in something along those lines where their phone touch screen stopped working and they ended up have and because it was out of warranty instead of buying a new phone they ended up going back to the previous phone that was even some of her co-workers right oh yeah it Mitch had it happened one of our co-workers had it happened to his phone twice ah so a lot of people are now like hey two years coming around my iphone screen stopped working perfect timing Apple well there has now been a class-action lawsuit filed by three people in three different states you can also jump on board to join in on the class action lawsuit but it's very early right now but this is for the touch disease or what Steven beat him and I affectionately called last week the iphone 6s TD I forgot about that he did is pretty spurt hey everyone everyone should forget about them okay um and then finally another story just to kind of wrap up on some of the I don't want to say trouble but controversy Apple is dealing with the European Union earlier this week hit apple with a 14.5 billion dollar tax penalty ruling that its deal with Ireland was illegal now this is what has happened and Apple is not the only company that does this a lot of US tech companies have benefited from basically stashing boatloads of their cash overseas so they won't have to be taxed on it they're trying to basically avoid paying the hefty taxes that they would face if they brought all this money from you know their multiple countries that they have sold products in if they brought that money all the way back to the US I think the penalties or the not the penalties but the tax rate is high as something around like thirty five percent in the US Wow so Apple made a deal specifically with Ireland to stash their cash their other again other tech companies have done this and in return it's kind of like a friendly deal that apple would then also help create jobs or provide jobs for people to to work right in Ireland in Ireland now the European Union has decided to sweep in on this with this ruling but quite honestly if you look at the specifics of this although your in Union want you to step in here it's not big right now the way that the laws are written technically technically apple and these other companies have done nothing illegal now I wonder if this has anything to do with brexit just have to do with brexit like by light I'd honestly could not tell you if there's any kind of feels like before we break away from the European Union you guys better pay up real quick you know get a get a somewhat get us some of that dough so Tim Cook is pretty calm confident in Apple's position this is not something that's gonna get resolved in with overnight it's going to be a long process is gonna take you I was like Jerry appeals on appeals was picturing lawyers mobilizing you know like getting their suits on like you know like Batman like montage just team of lawyers getting ready for the briefcase yes the iPads like times you know everything's like really intense yeah they're there they're ready the lawyers are the ones that are gonna get the bit the best out of this whole thing maybe like two years for a trial between the EU and Apple I'll take that money cachinga chinga Chang jjjjj so I'm Tim Cooke in 800 words statement said that does ruling is disappointing but Apple is confident in their appeal and the process may take several years to get resolved but uh we will see how that all plays out and before finally before we get to our awesome voicemails from all of you and I will try and scan some of the questions that you guys have shot out to us on twitter at brian Tong not trying to get followers trying to get questions but you can't follow me after I on top it's a good metric that I can use um Apple is finally re reactivated it's Twitter account okay okay okay yeah yeah I got it right here no no it's fine i mean look know it why did why are they why are they anti Twitter so here's the thing they created this account in 2011 I remember when they first created this account I follow them and they didn't say squat it was just like this oh we have this twitter name or maybe they figured I remember always trying to you would sometimes tweet and be ad like at Apple but then it was actually there was nothing there it was like no one or it was at the time I can't remember if it was like someone else if I got there goes timeline it's so full of tweets yeah so yeah so right now this is crazy there right now timeline has literally nothing no no not a single tweet so I threw out a poll on my Twitter let me see if I can pull it up because uh I was just curious and I want to you guys and gals to help us out and be like what do you think what do you think is the first tweet that Apple puts out like what do you think I'm trying to find your your tweet it's it's like three or four tweets down just go to uh we go to twitter.com / brian Tong i remember remember that remember that everyone brian Tong just kidding i don't care i could have four followers i don't care so is it a pole yeah it's a pole so I said what will Apple's first tweet be either a Hello be good morning three the apple store is down or four we don't explode dot dot dot as much so I'll let you all jump in on that pole based on the current results 703 votes forty-one percent have voted for hello seventeen percent have said good morning eighteen percent apple store is down twenty-four percent we don't explode as much mmm very nice but then of course we always have like different people that want to contribute and I love this about the internet cole says Skynet is live they won't say anything like they will not Kareem says don't get burned by buying a galaxy note 7 come on oh we could do better this a lot of people are like hello world that's kind of like a classic you know hello introduction so generic nowadays something from do you think it'll be Seri maybe it'll be Seri that says the first thing who knows I forgot what was the firt what was the first computer that said hello world I I can't it's out Watson it sounds really stupid for me to say that but I know someone's gonna be like duh hello world was first on this like IBM blah blah blah like that was the first you know like words a computer said whatever you guys they should quote um what's her name the beetles woman who was married to the beetle Yoko Ono yoga owner they should quote Yoko Ono what she says hello earth how are you oh no she said people of Earth how are people of Earth how are you eva is this this is a note this is on your twitter feed guys at the note 7 right there oh yeah its pants on fire it is I just found that amusing I know yeah it is it is nice okay um let's get to the calls i will talk about our little apple TV giveaway for everyone that's watching we do have an apple giveaway it's a sweepstakes it's done by the apple byte and cnet it's apple.com apple byte sweeps so don't do it sorry it's cnet co did I say I see Nicole / Apple Apple by sweeps okay that's it then I don't think it went to the right place it's okay don't worry either way we're giving away to Apple TV's to brand new spanking apple tv's and that's all i wanted to say to make it worth your time if you're still like a guy what do you guys talk about this is lame okay so we get two voicemails yes yeah right we've got a good we've got a good batch from yells got some good voicemails thanks guys the first one comes from heavy stuff heels I think that's his name okay it's hard to hear but let's let's see what he has to say I got to turn this up here we go hey Brian and beach Danny beer AK heady stuff here from Orlando Florida with all the controversy surrounding the mission of the headphone jack on the iphone 7 i started thinking about the durability and longevity of using the Lightning port I personally don't think it's better in this regard what do you guys think excellent show and thanks for keeping it real right we like to keep it real here and in the question just over about the durability of the Lightning port uh nope we'll see what happens it's gonna be frayed within six months it'll be the cable connection yeah yeah I mean unless they make that dongle like industrial strength the Ghadir yeah the I've got imagine there's gonna be a lot of issues more with the cable than with the actual port the port has shown that it's pretty much gonna be pretty durable historically ever since they went to a lightning port so I wouldn't worry about that it's more about the cables yeah definitely more worried about the cable than the port like all of my lightning cables are coming apart and I even like shrink-wrapped some of them just to fix them to like so they last longer and it's still they still a coming apart yeah it's right off you next voicemail next call Shamar from Hotlanta hey guys it's tamar from atlanta just wanted to provide some quick insight as to why a one-year device as cell phone has a one year warranty and you often sign the two-year contract if something goes wrong with that device within that two-year period your carrier was supposed to come in offer you a contract renewal and a new device in order to stay on the service so is it coincidence and now that iphone 6 is having its touch disease issues right around the time iphone 7 is supposed to become available just like iphone 5 had is battery issues right around the time i phone sixes come available so whether it's just coincidence or scumming business practices i'll leave it to you guys to make the call so i just wanted to drop that quick nugget thanks guys what do you think about the timing of how historically sometimes when phones batteries have started to die or be faulty or now that we have touch disease coming out right to around two years before an iphone Oh incidents or no no I I mean it could be coincidence but it is not that he's not the only guy saying this like we've all been saying this for years like my phone starts to fall apart after two years and that makes sense because I mean we'd aren't handling our phones and they we never turn them off they're just on all the time we drop them we do all kinds of crap to them you know so it's hard to say it's really hard to say I think it has to do with just basically general tech durability yes like any product you have look they they can say these things last forever but quite honestly from a speed standpoint and then how they upgrade operating systems and then just purely the hardware itself typically you're just gonna feel like oh man this is way slower around the one and a half year two year mark oh yeah this nurse get sluggish we've seen this sure you can say oh I hope my laptops for years fine laptops maybe three years but I remember for a while I would just sell my laptop right when a new one came out on ebay get the most value for it with the applecare and then get a new one and then you always like on top of the game yes so I think I don't think it's coincidence a combination of just that's this way Tech is these days yeah unfortunately and for people that are like I can't hear the voicemails it's because we're in a new studio so that's just the way and it is for the next few months so sorry very sorry watch both watch the tears go live and hang out on the YouTube yeah you can allow you to bin live stream all three of them on everything what are you doing seriously okay drew from Philly checking in well it's true but I'm from Philly and I'd like to know if there's any isn't going to be like any new updates to the macbook pro or use MacBook Air because it's not been completely refreshed in a while thank you yeah smart man asking about macbook pro updates I think technically the design for the macbook pro hasn't changed in like over four years now wow like the act the fundamental design hasn't changed in over four years so we will definitely see that and you know we talked a little bit about the macbooks earlier in the show but expect to see big revamps for the pro this year this if they don't do that do it they should all be really shocked but we've been expecting it for a while cool on one last call he did not give his name here he is hey let's go Brian a great show watch it every week I'm just wondering do you think that apple will come up with a VR set in a year or two Thanks what do you think about this Beecham apple and virtual reality headset in two years in two years that's way way too soon i don't even too soon for app I don't think so how long it took oculus a long time yeah I think that we it may not even be a VR headset per se it might be like a combination of the movement that you're starting to see now is a combination VRA our headset that we've heard in rumors from other companies well right hollow lenses right now is really an AR well as the bomb micro cannot everyone's like they are honestly who's played pokemon go still none of y'all we're happy people what happened to those 27 freaking seen at videos in one week oh I don't see any more I'm we were jumping on a trend man the vevo the vivre I'm sorry I played it you like you our Wars oh ma you got that blew you away our two handed me a lightsaber I firearm troopers I'll give you that I that memory lives in my head is if it was a real memory that I live I know I'm look I'm a huge fan of the VR thing everyone that knocks on it everyone that I've talked to that hasn't used it once they use it there like a kid I great right that's exactly what I did I was like I get it yeah yeah this is it this is the future I can't it but the oculus makes you sick so be careful with that listen to the kids bro listen to the goods bro I get it so uh from a standpoint of Apple actually doing virtual reality they've already said that they are they all look at Apple's general statement is we are exploring these areas Tim Cook outright said that they were at a their earnings report I don't think it was this most recent one but it was from 12 to earnings ago so around six months ago again Apple's trying to do a smart car are sorry a car we don't know exactly what it is if it's it could be at onimous vehicle we'll find out Apple's checking out a rvr but we don't know what they're doing we will find out but let's just before we wrap up the show like I think that coming up with this keynote from Apple I have always felt for a while now that at least if you're an iPhone user who uses a 4.7 inch screen and does not care about the 5.5 inch screen yeah I have felt that this is the this is arguably the least exciting announcement for you as a phone owner the least compelling reason to upgrade for an iphone if you're someone who does not use a large screen phone and does not care about having a DSLR camera I just feel like why are you gonna buy one now and just get the 10th anniversary phone I still like coming back to that what Tim Cook said there's gonna be stuff we cannot live without so we knows we don't we don't know so I'm hoping that they really wow me because we have seen so much stuff on the rumors like I think the dual camera is going to be awesome but for me there's no way that I'm going to just all the send decide I've got to have a 5.5 inch screen just because of that camera yeah definitely it's not a simple take care I don't care I don't care about the cameras already amazing enough it's it's great right yeah it's great so I'm not a professional well I am you are professional you are professional professiona professional photographer but you know I mean we know that there's rumors that the new camera on the standard size phone I guess I should call this down the 4.7 inch will have optical image stabilization so that's gonna be a big deal that'll be a nice improvement enough but are you telling me that it is enough to get everyone to upgrade I know that it'll be interesting to see interesting to see the numbers of who upgrades and who doesn't this time around there will still be tens of millions oh yes but I'm just do you think there's mean lines this time they're all in line well people sleeping I don't I sense there will always be lines like that but even even with the fact that i do reservation system online I just don't see or feel the the same amount of excitement i'm excited because i always love Apple keynotes they're fun like we just goof around oh we're gonna go glass we're gonna have a blast Wednesday yeah next Wednesday we will cover it but I'll wait to see if Apple can genuinely wow me and it's not because of these rumors that have leaked out I'm just curious what's going to happen so we will see I know you all will see I let's be honest my credit card will be will be just sitting on my laptop zama by so imma buy something I'm gonna buy something so uh yeah let's so we will see how it all plays out okay before we head on out again we just wanted to thank you our friends hi devices manufacturers and meticulously designed and thoughtful products like smart plugs switches thermostats and a socket plus a light 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I Maddy right about south after the day's over I'm gone he wants me to stop talking so we can go right now alright see everybody peace