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good Monday morning everyone and welcome to another week full of the 359 podcast well semi full it's episode 95 and you are joined here by Roger Cheng and Samantha Rhodes what is going on today happy Monday hello yeah what's what is going on we've got it we've got a couple of cool stories for you we're gonna talk about nokia we have young piece this morning about the startup bringing the nokia brand back and how the how the other plotting to come back and whether or not you care honestly uh and we're gonna talk about whether or not we are our first experiences with our phones Sam has never had a nokia phone which is unusual for folks at least at my age so makes me feel old and then next up will be talking about the the next wave of iPads coming out over the next two years well then lastly just a bit about a couple hotel chains that were hit with some mom we're just something be aware of so as always if you have any questions leave them in the comments section or producer Brian will pick out the best ones and we will do our best we will do our best answer them like sam says ask us ask us anything well almost anything we will sorry Carol answer yeah I now within reason within reason and preferably with the topics that we're actually talking about but yeah or or just general Apple questions because we know you have them and we will answer them so when we get started you're promising the world here right all right let's let's let's kick off the podcast alright audio to speed will be taking questions in exactly three minutes and 59 seconds starting three two welcome to the 39 when we talk about the top tech news of the day and all the other crap you want to throw in I'm Roger Cheng I'm Samantha roads so nokia is back finished start of AMD's plans to bring back the brand to help raise awareness action AMD has hired Pekka Rinne Tala the former CEO of Angry Birds maker rovio and a long time no key event in a story that I a published this morning it just sort of brings me back then I had a lengthy email chat with with Pekka and he seemed to be convinced that people still value the nokia brand and I've questions about that especially from from some like Sam who has never owned has never owned a millennial who has never owned a nokia phone and what is your take on the nokia brand yeah i only know nokia is the kind of phone that can like a cockroach can withstand like a nuclear holocaust or something i know very mean those things were tough whenever that I know has or wants to have a nokia phone so it's an interesting dilemma because he seemed really convinced that people were just you know it's a nostalgia playwright they they they grew up with the Nokia phone and you know a lot of people are still kind of loyal to the brand and they feel I feel like if they can come out with a decent android-based phone people will come back but it has to be pretty good though because we we always think of tech is like going forward and red though the nostalgia might work I don't want to be going backward in terms of high technology no that's actually a really good point I mean for me the bigger thing is Apple and Samsung sort of dominated our minds when it comes to smartphones come to advanced technology and then you've got a brand like Nokia which has had a lot of trouble over the years and it's been linked to windows phone for a while right and it didn't really do so well so I want to see what happens we'll have to see I probably won't buy one thought of that well I'm you gonna see it come back but we'll see so apple also is planning at ten and a half inch iPad pro for 2017 and 0 le D iPads for 2018 yes so oled so all that displays are a you know they've been a feature mainstay feature for samsung devices they've been our phones and tablets the the benefit is that the colors are vibrant the blacks are truer they say that it's you know it's a better visual experience so it's at that time that Apple kind of caught up right but although I mean on a broader level do you think any of this will make a difference like do you care about iPads at this point not really i don't use an ipad but then again people just crave new Apple products Frau they're going to be excited about it we'll see I mean like Apple has definitely struggled with the ipad business it's it basically was on a downward spiral up until the last quarter and so we'll see if like a better display will actually help all right lastly this is more of an why he booked a hotel with Starwood marriott or hyatt watch out the hotel chains have been hit by malware that exposed customer data so if you booked a hotel between march first of last year to june twenty first of this year you could be hit yeah it's 20 hotels the united states and they have a link online so you should go find out yeah check us check it out on Tina for sure we've got a link there you just put hotel right are you saying I did yeah I'm safe i booked at the crowne plaza and minneapolis although other minneapolis hotels were hit so yeah I mean this is just sort of the latest incident where again hotel chains airlines have just been hit by by hackers I mean it seems like we're we're not poor never safe right yeah everywhere gets hit DNC Hillary Clinton yes yeah and with you Donald Trump I guess that's a good thing I don't yeah he was at he was a fan that one yeah so all right oh why normal rocky stories check us out on cnet I'm Roger Cheng I'm Samantha roads thanks for listening whoa way under I realized you don't need to tell everyone that for once we're gonna hit the mark on a three minute 59 podcast as opposed to be in like four minutes and 6 seconds that's true okay I decide to change it up by going under door not over you were efficient yes no one's mad about that alright we have some great freaking commented I honestly I was a bit distracted when you started cracking up in the mill was like what is going on is this bad then I was trying that I didn't know what's going on so I just kept talking so I just have this might be my favorite comment of all time that we've ever gotten in the show alright so the snake game will be back I'm boss on that the snake game appropriately by a user named Scott boss nice very nice got boss I challenged you to snake sand do you know what this net game is I know a game called snake game where you have a little snake yes and that was like one of the that was I think a default game on most nokia phones back in the day and there's really like the only niggas the screen the screen was tiny yeah how do you just how long was the game as long as you had patience for it yeah as long as it kept going like you could theoretically keep going if you were skilled enough and if it's a small screen eventually a snake just takes up the whole yeah again you're done and then you're pretty much done this is how you occupied your time in high school you would get my age you could well for me was college but you couldn't download any new games or anything so like if that was basically it all right Lee I challenge everyone out there let's get it let's get it trending hashtag bring back snake yes let's do it maybe hm deal do it maybe that's that's their marquee feature by the Nokia phone it's got snakes mm-hmm there you go yeah we work with the nostalgic culture we live in these days that would actually work i don't know i mean if the power rangers can come back that's true that's true also ashley in gaming always loved snow at nokia sneaking keep it coming more snake everyone let's play snake rudolph and cocoa what do Apple think of Samsung do they hate them and they hate them well an interesting that's an issue in question no return i would say apple doesn't hate samsung but apple definitely feels that samsung has ripped off a lot of stuff jay has evidence by the myriad of lawsuits that they fought against and vice versa and vice versa for sure for sure but Apple really kicked off the whole you guys are copying our stuff uh battle yeah it's not a full hate let's go if it's full hate you know I mean to be heroes behind the behind the curtain conversation some of the executives might have but as far as her public presence at you know what i would i would probably bet that Steve Jobs probably hated Samsung probably they probably hate google more though basically anyone that's copied you know what what he brought out to the iphone so everyone ever yeah yeah uh well yeah they all they borrowed all the ideas for their stores but now Apple has new stores true what stores what stores you mean windows stores no no like Amazon doors the physical stores yeah I mean I'm talking about people who copied Apple oh yeah yeah yeahs Microsoft or yes yes yes uh there's my google store isn't oh I haven't seen a google store but there that'll be cool but in those stores Microsoft at Microsoft sorry um Mohammed says I still use my nokia e90 communicator made a thousand dollars yeah with legit I don't remember that indicator i think was like i'm even never the numbers were terribly mixed up but i think that was was it a tablet almost like a almost like a proto tablet i honestly don't know anything about if you give us more details man mohammed does more focus of my ID yeah we're all were all blinking you know what we have the internet we can look this up that's when thanks to you Brian wash I don't have the internet will they run out of ideas for their iPads that's a loaded question um no but also I would argue that you know they did it's definitely tougher to innovate on product like the ipad now like I feel like it's it's pretty polished at this point has basically everything you want in it it goes fast enough for any app you want to run on and so I keep changing the size but I'm trying to think of any sort of cool things that could come up with there hasn't been no really I mean like the coolest thing for that that Pro was the like the connector for the keyboard and that is something I sold for Microsoft so I don't know in terms of ideas for a significant upgrade to an ipad I don't know you know I don't got any more of those I think we're gonna see more phone stuff before we see anything on the tablet yeah absolutely and even then they're kind of like reaching at straws I should just make it waterproof and wireless charging just like everything else like I wouldn't mind a waterproof like that run out in the rain waterproof anything would be a huge leap forward yeah an across the board yes so to remind everyone we're talking about the big nokia come back and we got Tommy in the chat room saying I don't care I don't even want to know Thank You Tommy for clicking through watching the 30-second ad absolutely there's nokia topic that you don't care about you know that's the thing there are people who care about the brand i think it's definitely sure hits hits a certain age right like you have to be kind of like my age basically or older like in the mid to late 30s because below that like yet nokia sort of lost its relevancy and it was any real reason your phone was a a pink razor pink razors for a lot of people like the motorola the moto motorola razr the original one the thin flip phone their first i was my face those things work last my girlfriend went through three of those in college yeah yeah yeah they weren't that durable no no no he dropped in it just yeah it powdered it was bad did it literally powder is that what does she do that phone no everyone you just drop it in him yeah no it wasn't it wasn't difficult take a single hit like if you put it down on the counter too hard it shut off I mean that was the first it was first of a wave of like form over function products right yeah letting you know you started valuing the way it looked good before that like most of the phones i had before the razor were pretty bulky were pretty durable yeah nokia ones were pretty awesome like they were you could use it as a self-defense weapon throw it at thrown against someone you know exactly Shahriyar is talking about the Golden Age of Nokia saying that they should just kind of like ride off into the sunset remember when it was wonderful antec pimp expands on this yes tech pimp sure raving about their camera features their camera functions for me yes he says project already 1 megapixel all the carl zeiss lenses the way ahead of their time yeah they were was like mm n 95 and 90 series was uh these were kind of like pseudo smartphones they had like slider capabilities that they were basically regular phones but they had really awesome cameras for the time like I mean nothing nothing they were making then compared to what we have now yeah then the 41 I think the 41-megapixel I think that's a reference to the Lumia 1020 that Nokia made under uh under Stephen Elop there's a windows phone as a smartphone actually had a really kick-ass camera I have to admit I mean promise you had to be into Windows Phone and people who weren't really into that speaking of ahead of their time and innovation Muhammad points at the Nokia had video call before FaceTime yes they did they had a lot of features before for a phase before Apple did maybe I'll have new ones now that all be a sort of that deal and you know what vehicles mmm that would take a huge amount of processing power she imagined you're legitimately thinking by bike Oh PR come he was like why the real Jeff Goldblum Co you never really asked if we should I know that I think that's a problem with the note with the start of a shin be there they're trying to create been using Android so they're going to be like every other android phone out there so I don't really know what they're going to do to set themselves apart I mean this guy I talked to you know really talked about the the marketing ID the brand identity is being the real differentiator but I don't know if it has its much sway as yeah that's all yeah any other questions still scanning more bring back snake come on keep it coming guys but yeah we're done we are in total agreement bring back snake I don't think my reflexes are that's good you know it's really really good at snake yeah I spent a lot of time playing that game well dad do you think there will be any Android involvement with new nokia products no I don't think I think they're just going to take stock Android they're not going to they're not gonna mess with the too much I mean they probably will but and they're not going to be working with Google to like create any cons unique features I think they're gonna they're going to do this stuff on their own I also don't know if they are going to build any kind of unique tweaks to it to set it apart will say it's there they're not looking to launch their phones this year they haven't we talked about a time frame but you could probably expect first phones and tablets to show up next year at the soonest going back to the the ipad topic tallest says you know with the trend of iPads and tablets replacing a lot of actual home computing experiences maybe that's a direction to consider what are some things that we see on a pc that you know besides something like the optical drive which is out in itself outdated what of those should be on the forefront to innovate into a tablet experience specifically the ipad that's it's interesting point i think what Apple's doing with a home kit and trying to integrate the IO either iOS device either your iPhone or your iPad as sort of the controller for your home yep I think that's a really good concept and they haven't really done much with it I know they you know you can kind of control your lights and control certain smart appliances with your iPad but hasn't feel like they hadn't really have made a big push in that it seems like a law separate not a lost opportunity but an opportunity that they it could be capitalizing moron I would like to see something being someone who does not own a tablet something that would kind of bring me over as bundling it with peripherals so buying kid that had a keyboard and a mouse with it oh yeah yeah yeah like right off to show it either I mean I want something that's really gonna thank me what have one yeah otherwise like I like my typing experience on my laptop or that kind of thing and that's just me have you Robbie if you guys try like the surface or surface pro and that that kind of small thin keyboard I had right that's why want to see more of you okay got it got it I mean I mean they're doing that the ipad pro though right oh is it yeah i mean sup the promise is not much that it's not bundled you know they've got a pencil to get the stylus they've got the keyboard neither which are free i mean you have to spend extra money for that so it you know that cost adds up there yeah it's like buying a new charger for your computer 80 bucks yeah yeah nuts yeah i mean just make me pay it out the gate and not think about it again just hate myself once right instead of a my cell twice three times well with apple if that's case you would be hating yourself quite a bit over and over and over yep absolutely true yep I think that's all we got for today is probably good time to wrap right there all right great thank you so much for everyone yeah really Zack loving the snake comments keep trending bring back snake hashtag bring back saying um it's gonna happen man I'm is going to you sir Pokemon go no actually is Pokemon go so thing I'm still playing which makes me wonder if it's no longer things so I obliterated my data plan and week really yeah so I kept on tmobile nice sorry Pokemon goes for you I'm grandfathered in from working for this company on a tentatively good deal through AT&T oh yeah you're not an endorsement nor a criticism that's just where I interesting cuz I talked to the carriers about how much data Pokemon go takes up and they argue that it doesn't really it's not that heavy Brian can when I'm differ spending a weekend working out of Philadelphia with limited access to any form of Wi-Fi and warning around the city and occupying that time by catching them all yes yeah we quit Wow well love will you it I'm stuck on 12 really yeah I'm doing tired when I've been for several days now not using fries right right it's probably a good idea yeah the bring back snake long live nokia let's get out here there you go all right long live nokia okay that's a great sentiment to end on if you liked anything you saw or heard here chicks on cnet our podcast is also available on itunes google play music soundcloud feedburner tune in and we'll call tomorrow it was fast I don't say really fast i'll forget it