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welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Alfred hang Apple dropped a tree of new iPhones and a new Apple watch an event that well didn't have a lot of surprises I mean the iPhone 10s 10s Max and 10r came just as rumored and that Apple watch series for facelift was pretty much like the leaks showed you know what stood out to me was the pricing across the board increased it's now even more expensive to buy any of these iPhones it starts at 750 just two years ago it started at 650 pretty close to that 2000 price point I mean I think they saw the success of the iPhone 10 where basically it was kind of like in your face told you we can make a lot of money with ya thousand dollar phone and it's kind of like let's just lean into that now let's just make everything more expensive make more money people are gonna buy our stuff no matter what keep in mind the iPhone 10's max that starts at ten fifty but goes all the way up to fifteen hundred dollars so that two thousand dollar iPhone is actually pretty close the way we're going you know it's kind of like do you want to pay rent for this month or do you want like a new phone like sometimes you know you can just get a new phone instead like what do you need a roof over your head for more rent than I pay all right like think about all the new features on that on there ten there your iPhone is max Oh Matt just keep you warm yeah yeah that's right you can be homeless for a month and have a really sweet amazing photos you can take with that camera in the back it's my HDR and to me the I mean that the 10r was the most interesting phone and you know it was at least different than the tennis which pretty much are just last year's ten right you know it's it's bigger than the 10s but also cheaper which is kind of a weird area because you always think bigger is more expensive and this is not the case yeah I mean I'm definitely attracted to you know the ten are more than I am the other phones mostly because they didn't announce an se - yeah I was just like my dreams of a smaller phone are now dead so I mean let's get to that there were a couple of things that they kind of quietly killed all right the iPhone se is no longer available they also killed the plus models of the old phones it's really just a iphone 7 iphone 8 we thought maybe the plus would stick around and then no air power for a whole year they a year ago they announced the air power wireless charging pad and it's it's basically gone an entire year without mention yeah just I think the idea was like don't even think about it we I think something really went wrong there because that that product probably isn't gonna show up pay no attention to the yeah yeah no attention to check it out like we've got three phones instead and then like they made just like they talked about the home pod for like maybe two seconds yeah I know they're like oh yeah there's this thing we've got some updates but don't worry about it and they can sync with each other now forget about it and then there look lastly there's the Apple watch right yes what did you think of the series for the the new bad so I'm curious to see what the battery life will be like for the walkie talkie and the phone mode because I know that that was a big criticism of the last iPhone was basically yeah the phone's cool but like you're really only getting at like 30 minutes of talk time so they don't watch watch yeah yeah they talk about it with the watch where is basically like oh this has the same battery life as I'm still getting a full 18 hours and my guess is they haven't solved that problem if you're running off that LTE radio that watch is not lasting long yeah and then they made it louder which i think is kind of annoying cuz I hate it when people have speakers in public yes but I tend to actually mute mine oh that's good yeah oh you're a decent person that like doesn't just play music out loud clap for everyone here so yes I mean I thought they you know the EKG support the the fall detection was kind of an interesting angle because it's I think for older folks it's actually kind of useful I'm curious how many false positive it's gonna have though right if I if I like if I'm like you know after a long night of drinking or some of that I just fall into bed and I forget to take my watch off yeah automatically call some I call one yeah that is not gonna be so maybe it uses I guess the heart rate Meyer or the motion sensor like if you're moving your hand around within those five minutes but you can move your hand around after you've fallen too well so I think the idea is if you fall you're unconscious right yes I used to move your hand that's true well see how it works they didn't actually have us check it out during the the demo Oh gladly fall and see how or yeah well we'll definitely do a lot of fall test here anyways for more on all that Apple coverage chickens I've seen it I'm Roger Chang I'm Alfred Aang thanks for listening alright thanks for bearing with us folks and oh we're running late but there's still a lot for us to kind of wrap our heads around after yesterday oh wait no there's not oh my fault that we're running late today hey let's go ahead and take some questions and comments what would your takeaway from the keynote did anything actually blow your mind I'm kind of with you guys Roger and Alfred the fault detection thing was probably the most notable most admirable well the fact that it's got a EKG reader electrocardiogram support and that it got clearance from the FDA to be a medical device that's that can change how well who gets access to this thing right because imagine if an Apple watch is covered by an insurance company all of a sudden it's a lot more appealing right yeah I've seen like Fitbit it's being covered by some insurance companies yeah I've talked to analyst who say you know in terms beyond senior citizens folks who work in warehouses that fall detection thing could actually be useful as a preventative measure so there's a lot of applications I thought the Apple watch was definitely more interesting than the phone announcement yeah somebody made a really good point on Twitter that I saw what was basically like what if they sold the 10r and the watch together as like a bundle because I'm like a thousand dollars that's like the price of a 10 s so could be interesting could be interesting for I don't know I would definitely rather have the 10s for the thousand dollars or the 10 R and watch a bundle for sure but the problem is that what is it 750 for the 10 are the watch starts at 400 so 11:50 that's a $150 discount I don't know that's actually not that unreasonable yeah Apple go for it do it do it they're listening to us they never listen all right jumping into the chat taking some questions and comments from first and foremost let's go ahead and address the elephant in the room for where to go Oh from Joseph what do you guys think of Apple no longer including the headphone jack to the Lightning port outside right out of the box so dongle yeah I mean yeah I'd be I'd be kind of annoyed but I am annoyed by that those things are easy to lose I'm not surprised you know they gave us like I guess what three generations of dongles was it three I don't know six seven eight maybe two it's two years I guess yeah it's disappointing I really wish they they would have kept that little dongle in because it is useful and there are times and you still need that thing like you know if you're an airplane or something if you it's just yeah it's very frustrating that like you have to buy it separately now and let me believe it's nine dollars I mean that's not a bad price if that's the case but I don't know how all right first of all that's it is nine dollars and it has one and a half stars on their website oh yeah well probably cuz you can lose it super easily doesn't make any sense though we're like why would they it's like nine dollars like how much I'll feed your off-mike oh there you go it's like nine dollars and I don't know how like why they would get rid of it for you know something that's so essential and useful for so many people I mean I suppose they really are trying to get everybody to you know not use all about why your headphones it's all about the profits trying to get squeeze that profit out of yeah yeah those dongles let's call the dongles they were just sucking up valuable dollar bills that that Apple could've been posting that's that's what Apple does Sean wants to know if you guys think that Apple may have missed a big opportunity by not creating an SD sighs iPhone 10 yes yeah all right you not me people that are out there with small hands okay this is it fit affliction okay this is BS that's the I don't BS that they don't have smaller I would say that the fact that they dropped the se and you know they they consider now the XR to be their budget phone at 7:50 which is kind of crazy I'm pivot he's not a budget price I know that is my point though I think Apple is basically saying hey that's so much success with the iPhone 10 let's just lean into that and for folks who just can't afford these phones well sorry go to Android it proven at least with over the last year or blackberry no or Nokia I mean I was I won't say this though with with these like higher price increases I think that more people are gonna be holding on to their like different little bit longer yeah yeah yeah in the same sense that like you know you you wouldn't like just go out and buy another phone if it was like a thousand dollars but it's like another phone if a new phone was like 300 or 400 it's like much easier for you to make that like justification yeah for sure like you're much more likely to just hold on to your stuff now like it's the same thing with cars you know you don't like go out and buy a new car every year yeah ultimately they don't they don't necessarily mean they do care that you're buying iPhones continually but if you stay on iPhone and you using their services that's still an Apple I thought the whole recycling thing was kind of interesting is that knew how it were like am i that far out of the loop what situation no the in terms of the recycling like they've shown off that robot arm that could sort of disassemble the parts and reuse them for the manufacturer future devices what was new is I believe the the fact that they they've included or they're using even more recycled parts in the iPhone so it's more it's greener the idea is that you don't have to mind for certain precious materials that's necessary for these components some of them are rare they're expensive oftentimes they're in conflict areas and so I think they're trying to get away from their dependence on that Apple should have a program where if you have all the recycled materials from like old iPhones and stuff if you ship it in to them they can like make you a new phone at a discount from that oh they're not gonna do that no what you're cycling your stuff it's a that's a really cool idea I imagine an Android startup would try something like that and I can't just do a terrible job at it and fail yeah probably but Apple it's a great idea but that I mean how would Apple make its money the sweet sweet I mean they probably still sell it to you at a much higher price but like oh if they still charge you like two thousand four yeah but like you know he's gonna discount like I don't know like now you wouldn't get a discount with Apple Apple doesn't do discounts even if you send in your own part yeah they don't care I gathered all the materials please and thank you but you pay extra for feeling good about yourself Green that's the app premium right there we didn't pay for any of these parts but we're still gonna charge you premium if you send me your old iPhone I will take it apart and solder it together into a statue for you I would love to see that actually it's like a commemoration it's like when you when you have your pet cremated and you put it on in a jar on the Shelf you can do that with your old iPhone now oh you guys I'll make it for you you just be reasonable and sell your phone it's your money back get some money back don't chunk it there that's that's actually really environmentally the bad I mean the last couple the first couple of phones I had were obliterated there was no coming back for them so I had them destroyed were they all like rage obliterated yeah well I have my surprise I'm not surprised all right more questions we've got a couple minutes left James Cook is it true that the new iPhone will take advantage of t-mobile's faster speed yes yes I believe so I don't think they talked about during the presentation call my buddy John he I will I will it's actually more it's Nevel Rae their CTO he would know John actually doesn't I don't think he even knows but yeah I believe the new one is optimized for t-mobile 600 megahertz spectrum which is there they called extended LT it's really just LTE with better range and coverage so extended yeah you're right you're right no but they market it as like it's special extended LTE like as if it's special that's not it just don't see you guys anyway man on top of a telephone pole is like extend yes he has a shout actually the entire time it's a terrible job here's a good question from Sean Vega will Apple watch for be bought by nursing homes for patients that's the thing I mean it could that's like I don't know about nursing homes but like if my parents thankfully or not at that that age or that condition were this is a real risk but like if they get older like I wouldn't mind I would consider buying on these things and paying for the LTE connection I'm curious about like what you know the popularity of like EKG on your watch will do for like the public mindset because there's a lot of like young people that don't need EKGs that are gonna have Apple watch they're just gonna start doing it yeah I'm what you're like are they gonna be much more conscious of like they're they're like health because of that like they don't need it at all right it's on there like it's there as like a constant like I don't know I think with this yesterday's presentation it seemed like Apple was trying to go after a broader base not just say that the young folks who have been wounded - brace wearables but even older folks there's the the health kick definitely kind of signaled that this wasn't just for you'd be young and just like kids using it as like a makeshift lie-detector now ooh maybe there'll be an app for that it's gonna be so it's gonna be completely inaccurate and it's fine oh so well can we refresh Ricardo what the size of the battery is on the XS the XS Max and the XR did they give out the actual battery specs they usually oh by the way go ahead and at me Chet I'm calling it the X yeah it's fine I just X s max just I can't say that fast too many times even though I want to say X but anyway it's I know it's it's basically it's supposed to be more battery it's supposed to be a little bit longer life than the last year's model I believe the 10 s is supposed to last like I don't know half an hour longer or a little bit longer and the maxes as longer battery life I don't think they gave out battery capacity you know they usually don't I don't recall battery capacity either and I'm scanning through our review right now put it up on screen for some other let's see one or not have yeah it claims 90 minutes or 30 minutes longer depending on which mode for the unit that's the 10s right yeah well I mean I've got all three lined up here okay so the 10s is thirty minutes longer than the 10 the max is 90 minutes longer than the 10 and the R is 90 minutes longer than the eight okay that's not mean okay yay but that's a claim without a test so far so what exactly then yeah and also you know it really depends on how you use the phone right if you're constantly streaming video it's not gonna last long exactly yeah I just remember like they kind of glazed over it at the keynote yeah it is slightly longer though which gives people more time to watch their favorite like live streams on YouTube such as the stream economy oh yeah okay your Alphabet City yes those are excellent shows yeah yeah it breaks it down there you go that's that's really all the good shows on yeah I'll see that and think of our YouTube self all of YouTube yeah okay sir enjoy for the people who are paying close attention was Tim Cook's Twitter troll ever surpassed in the rest of the event did he set that bar too high I remember when that came out our artist yeah they aren't tweet yeah an office chat was like what's going on you know it actually kind us the fight had kind of worked well but that was that I saw they know if that was around think he was I don't think that was on purpose I think because it worked well with the video I think that was a theater for the videos absolutely stay no I think that he sent out that accidentally I was like we got to cover this up now and then they made that whole video yeah do it they have the money that's probably like I don't care if it cost ten million dollars you make that video to fix my arrow tweet or make my air and tweet relevant it was a good cover-up video it was great so do we know what the R stands for Sandro is wondering if it means rubbish or ripoff hmm I don't know that it they just called the are like this same with you iPhone 5c there was no they ever holler they never officially they never officially said that so it's I think yeah it was up to us and I think it ended up being known more like for cheap yes that's what most people see as cheap yeah which is why there's no 10 see it's a 10 R I don't know what R is gonna rubbish would be that's a little bit overstatement I'm going with rude boy but that's just because I've been listening to a lot of sky lately the iPhone 10 rude boy so it sounds better than 10x s-max oh yeah can't say that three times fast 10s xmax oh well you were being redundant oh you're right iPhone excess max okay I still can't say that right either way Oh phone Daft says reach for reaching more people that's actually a good thought right there legitimate we're just gonna keep making bad jokes sure before we go James asks when do you think the new air pods are going to be announced I'm surprised we didn't see him yesterday I there there is we're expecting the October event so they might show up because we didn't get to see an iPad Pro we didn't see the the MacBook Refresh is that the rumor the new iPods either where the iPod nanos where the shovels Tim the DiMaggio me the iPod shuffle in like five years people want to know I had a shuffle great shuffle 10s max yeah so I mean we have the October event to look forward to I wouldn't even be surprised if they drop those airpot updates into like like a present like a quiet press release announcement I mean these question is real they glazed over the home pod and Mojave and just like on that why couldn't have just thrown pods in there everything the Mojave stuff would have like went down anyway though like the true suppose hardware stuff that's why they had the watch OS like announcements like at a completely different event right because there were like pretty cool stuff on the new watch OS but like they don't really show that with this one oh you know what we completely forgot about no one really cared about home court home court was cool Steve Nash was their home court oh never basketball oh good lord yeah I was you know this cool st. Steve Nash there it's just weird to see him be the tallest guy on stage as opposed to the shortest guy on the court just please can't wait for my iPhone to teach me how to dunk I mean great well that's the 2000 dollar model freaking help me yeah I'm paying that much alright I'll give him that much some of the AR stuff was pretty cool I did get kind of excited about the Galaga arcade game what's dumb as hell to me I'm oh shut up I'll play that alright but I'm just saying like that looks cool cuz you're seeing what's on the screen but yeah but let's see how it actually performs yes like when they pan out to just the people they look really stupid like when if you can't see what's going on it's just like three people with their phones like walking around a desk and it looks really cool if you're doing it though so is sitting in a chair and pushing buttons on a little rectangle in your lap no you look very cool Brian but like if if you were doing a are buttons like there was nothing in the room and you're just like sitting in and after you pretending to press buttons and stuff it just looks really dumb Sir Isaac for yourself enjoys asking one more time before we're out the door did you notice any improvement in the front camera I watch Scott Stein's video and the photos did look better we're gonna have him on ASAP he's actually on a plane on his way back right now or the podcast for us so I'm sure we'll have them on and very very soon facing cameras supposed to be much better not as like seven megapixels on it which if you think about it like that's better than like some of the back facing cameras on like phones just from three years ago and it's supposed to have a faster sensor yes yep and so it's like faster for like mostly it's like for face ID but like it also makes it better for like taking like clearer sound glad I'm glad they improved face ID because it's still great it's not super reliable it's also better for like depth of field constantly the depth of field stuff we mostly talk to us for the front the rear camera like it's like the sensors on the front also and also fact check there they claim that this is the first time it's ever been done that's completely false Samsung did that last year with their dual lens camera and Lytro has been doing that for a long long time so not the first time so it's been a fact check their breach Roger preach hey we're out of time for the day we're out of time for the week thanks everybody for joining us thanks for bearing with us on such a weird scheduled week we'll be back next week where we'll talk about the philosophy and theorize whether Apple will or will not create augmented reality crossfire the boardgame router you want to take us on out of here yeah the podcast is available on iTunes tune in stitcher feedburner google play music google podcasts and Amazon Alexa of course it's on Sina com we'll see you all next week take care folks we're doing an AMA on reddit about the iPhone sub so if you want Jews out there not our boss honey our boss Connie is gonna be on she was at the event definitely jump on the reddit AMA with if you have additional questions she knows way more than we do we'll put a link to that in the description of the show thanks again have a great weekend I just went live seven minutes ago you