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Chang I'm out for dang and with us this special guest chart tip Ken Apple's event was last week but we're still talking about the new iPhones and Apple watch Charlie you were at the event so please give us some of your impressions what did you think when you actually got a chance to play with these phones these devices yeah I mean it's pretty interesting I think what they really did was kind of give more options in terms of you know we have the bigger screen again they finally redesigned they're cheaper iPhone which is now yeah you know above $700 the the XS sorry tennis itself is we've been mixing it up all week after will the tennis itself is you know if you have the 10 it's gonna be basically the same phone right for all intents and purposes but it's kind of those other two that are really interesting yeah they can I mean the 10 are you wrote about this ahead of time that it was sort of the most intriguing yeah I have a lineup what do you think of that phone in particular when you held it did it feel cheap it didn't feel cheap I mean it definitely was colorful I don't know if people remember the 5c so when that one came out it was it felt cheap because it was plastic so it I mean it literally was cheap materials but it was colorful this one didn't feel cheap in your hand you know it's still premium materials it's aluminum it's not stainless steel so it's just not as sleek as the other two right but it still is you know a really good phone for what it is did you see like the difference between you know the whole adversity like what I noticed was the bezels so with with LCD you can't curve it over the sides like you can OLED oh you know so you know I'd the iPhone it's just like you almost don't even notice that there's any edges around the display at all it's just kind of like all screen I kind of I know that was more noticeable I thought on the 10r but you know just kind of the edges but it didn't I didn't what I wasn't doing like watching videos or anything like side by side to be able to compare and I think for most people you probably won't notice okay just you know in what you're doing on a normal basis you're you know looking at Instagram and you know checking your Facebook and sending emails and Google Maps and whatever it is you're doing I don't think it's gonna be yeah a huge huge difference right and so you also wrote about how smartwatches are finally finally where we wanted them to be five years ago yeah and then so that's perfect I would apple watch what you think of the new series for yeah I honestly want my watches to be smaller instead of bigger which you know so that was one thing because these are definitely a little bit bigger but you know it does look a little sleeker cuz it's kind of it's a little bit yeah it's I mean you know they're using kind of some of the design techniques they were using in the phone starting with the iPhone 10 last year they've kind of taken those a little bit to the watch and then the health stuff is really interesting you know not just for I feel like a lot of us aren't gonna be using like the EKG monitor we're not gonna be necessarily like caring about fall detection all the time right but it's kind of nice just like knowing that stuff is there if you need it and for people who have disabilities the elderly some of these other areas people with epilepsy who do fall a lot like these could really be very significant devices for them okay and we wanted to talk about the latest in road trip series alfred you went to a well it's supposedly an underground bunker tell me about what that was like well yeah so i went to a factory out in los angeles it's from the atlas survival shelters they were like one of the top sellers of nuclear bunkers in the world but they also sell it for you know things like wildfires or tornadoes and things like that that's actually their bigger concern right now because they're based in california a lot of the shops are selling are for wildfires and you know that being said a lot of their customers are also very rich like a lot of them are going into like Napa Valley which is near Silicon Valley with all these like tech billionaires there one that I saw was being built was supposed to double as a wine cellar so in case of emergency you know you can also get very wasted as you what with his ending that's what I would define it you know like people have like some of this wine is worth a lot yeah it's true yeah so no room for the kids just yeah so how much how much are some of these shelters so they start at about $18,000 for like the cheapest one which was the one that I was in okay um and then they can go up to 84 like Bay Area yes eh sorry could you go up to like 8.3 million dollars and that's if you want like some crazy thing with like there were two that were built in Napa Valley that had like horse stables and then which I'm like why would you have your horse underground with you doesn't make any sense like the wildfires just think of the smell though hey you gotta protect the horse yeah all right so for more on these stories in the road trips area should curse on Cena and run a channel malphur dang I'm shy recipient actual something yeah yeah that one is insane I don't know if specifically that one was but they have models that are worth like so like third they're only as always thanks for joining us for the recording of the audio podcast now it's time for me to jump into the chat they got some questions and comments and keep the conversation going I know everybody wants to talk about these phones Mike Shaw asks only 64 gigabytes of storage on high phones start at a thousand and eleven hundred dollars Apple has insulted all of us hot take guys what do you think I thought that was actually kind of surprising that they still start with 64 I really kind of thought that the minimum was gonna get bumped up a little higher yeah I have a 64 gig phone and I've never run out of memory on it to be fair I also don't yeah that's insane I don't take that many videos or terabyte an iCloud storage every month oh god no no I mean when you have kids you know I was like thinking about getting a new phone this morning and then I was looking I was like do I really need like 128 gigs no like I'm flying a 64 then I just didn't get a new phone but would you pay a thousand dollars for it I want to pay a thousand dollars for any phone so no there you go that's my hot take just no let's take one from James FIFA this is a recent question but I think this will kind of set the stage well for the rest of the conversation what does a liquid retina mean I've never heard that before oh it's because it's a term they made up yes so yeah that's why yeah this is a bad thing then again be very super retina doesn't mean anything either no huh these are all just made-up terms it was just nice little markings I thought I was like a metal gear solid reference I thought it was my disease like could that liquid retina I feel like that would be we just got like a band name if the doctor came to you like sorry I mean you know they just have these like marketing terms so you don't feel like you're kind of getting screwed when you don't have the super retina you have liquid right I'm your pain you're 750 like don't worry you've got a liquid I'd love to be in the room where they come up with that where they just have a bunch of like quasi like sounding names like mega ready that's actually on your podcast now - it's just liquid retina ready for the next one yeah from the - so I take the goal of getting a small phone is dead is that correct Alfred I think this one's for you yeah I've pretty much given up on it I like I said I was looking for a new phone this morning and it was basically just oh I'm definitely not getting a like smaller cheaper phone now but Linlin law has a column on small phones I think there is ik a Sony device that's out there that's like an Android device that's small if you want to switch to Android there are some small options but you're right most I mean with Apple killing the iPhone se I'm like pretty much still using my 5s like now like I like my phone screen crack this morning and I was gonna look for a new phone and then I decided you know I'm just gonna get screen replace because I like this phone size there are by the way there are phone se is available I think yeah it's still it sells out because it carries probably have some inventory so if you really want a small phone people are still trying to sell them for like $200 and it's just like are you kidding me no that's way too much money for a phone wait how much do they go for $200 yes they were trying to like this is like like refurbished like it it oh oh yeah no like I'm not buying that there's something out hope though that they're gonna come out with one like I think that first se came out and like March or something yeah it's kind of a weird time I think the same time yeah yes I I don't know they never tell this obviously which is unfortunate it's hard it's better long like hand-sized aside like just like you know trying to like stretch your hand so use like you know a max or anything like that kids yeah that and like pocket space is really frustrating cuz like I have I have a galaxy s7 that I use for work and I hate putting that at my pocket because it just like sticks out so you answer like insanely yeah cuz I'm insanely sim and slimming in shape so right thanks for a compliment just by the way Linds story she notes that she calls up the sony xperia x z2 compact which i've never heard and you probably buy online unlocked but if you really really want a small phone apparently that's an option for you just give me the phone that I can digest and I sure yeah is that what they do in the movie no but it's we were so close to the future and then they just completely went the opposite way that's why I'm so excited about the Apple watch being able to be like you can use it as a phone cuz like yes finally like give me something like that size i want that size of the FAFSA phone yes just like a little yeah but then it turns out that it's not that great of a phone so thanks a lot yeah last about an hour yeah imagine getting spam calls on that alright let's take one from our old friend Carlos I have questions does the iPhone 10 are performant perform fast also how bad are the pixels can you see a lot of pixels does it look the same as an iPhone 7 or 8 and what is your takeaway on the general quality no sure are you you had some time earlier to kind of broach on that but now is the time we get to run free with the with the topic so go for it yeah so um it does not look like the seven or the 8 because it looks more like the iPhone 10 that was kind of the whole point of this was that phone was finally getting redesigned so there's no home button if you like touch ID you're gonna have to buy one of their older phones that still have that it has the same processor as the 10s and the tennis Mac's so it's gonna be a fast phone I mean like this is in if you just kind of compare them it's basically the sum of the materials are less premium and it doesn't have the two camera lenses so if you really like that 2x zoom that's just really easy you know you hit the button and it's you know clear great or kind of the bokeh effect where you can take a picture of your dog and like it's blurred behind him that's not gonna work on the ten are the ten are has they use kind of software to be able to blur the backgrounds if you're taking pictures of people yeah but it doesn't work with like animals and things oh really it's just people it's just for people Oh yeah they said that during the presentation did that well maybe they did I guess I was told that in like the demo room oh so it's you know if you yeah you want pictures of your pets you're gonna have to get the other one oh yeah I'm gonna drop an extra $300 for better photos of my pets yes you will I mean yeah but but otherwise it's it's very similar I didn't see those two screens right next to each other it if you're I don't think the iPhone 7 looks pixely I don't think the iPhone 8 looks pixel II and those don't have the OLED screen so you just kind of have to think of it as like kind of a similar screen to what was in those devices just you know the home button is gone yeah it's fast and snappy it's got it's everything I've gotten Center class and I've got a 10 and I look at the screens often actually and I don't I mean of course you do of course I do I rush Roger waiting so we're trying to eat a lot of emails I will say like the color the screen the OLED screen is a little bit more vibrant but it's really not that significant a difference yeah it's not a deal-breaker like if I just had LCD I wouldn't be disappointed yeah so I mean yeah it seems like this is a phone for once I'd like even though it's not cheap but it's definitely significantly less expensive than the 10 yeah and it doesn't have the compromises if I could if I see yeah I mean I honestly think the only reason you know that the only thing that's like lesser really with this that you would notice is the camera yep and that's you know the rest is like not the lack of 3d touch no I don't know I think it's okay I'm joking nobody's 3d touch I I use it I use it for one thing it's the control the cursor when I'm writing an email oh that's it yeah anyway Brian next question next question comes from DC one four seven Tim Cook proposed that iPhones are so expensive today because it's so valuable now do you think this is a justified comment well if you do look at the resale values of the iPhone versus other phones you definitely are gonna get more money back if you're selling your iPhone like if you're trading it in and getting a new one they definitely make me like retain their value so much more than the others and the fact is like the stuff that they're putting into these phones now you can hold onto these for a long time and they're good like the camera and these are good like they're you know it's not gonna they obviously make it better every year so you're like oh I need the better thing right but if you have your phone for three years it's so good I'm going to it just sounds like a very like circular argument that he's making or like chicken or the egg kind of thing it like they're very expensive because they're very valuable are they very valuable because they're very expensive yes yeah you saying the same thing you can't really what came first a shyster of the crook James fever says people in the USA are lucky Apple charges more in other countries I'm in the UK and they charge upwards of 26 percent more that sucks sorry Dan from Pamela what do you guys think about the iPhone 10s and 10's max not selling out on pre-order I actually thought that was very interesting myself because I've covered a lot of these pre-orders and these the devices sell out like almost instantly I think a lot of people I think that that's why we don't have the 10r right away either I think that you know that's coming in October so that people aren't like oh I need this your refreshment what happened with the iPhone 8 in 8 plus last show I don't think those sold either round yeah iPhone tented yeah almost instantly it was it was backordered they have gotten better with supply chain right and if you look at these they are basically the same phone you know this is an S year right it's not a complete redesign so they figured out kind of all the manufacturing kings we have like gotten all of that streamlined but also I think people just probably don't feel a huge rush you know these as much as they did like the 10 was just such a huge change and such such a big redesign that you know there was so much demand for that raised you know it's an S here it's last year there you go apparently we need to talk about 3d touch Steven Joseph R is asking what's the deal with 3d touch we had someone else in the chat Ivan are they really killing 3d touch feature on the iPhone no no they're definitely not I mean they made a point to mention it yep during its on their presentation to tennis max but not on the 10r yeah and we're thinking it's probably just cost like it costs like you have to put in that little extra layer for 3d touch to work and so you want to get the 10r to a lower price point that's a good way to cut out cut it out from Akash a trillion dollar company that will not provide accessories what are your thoughts on that one wait what do you I guess dongles not in the barrels nine dollars and what their effort is that you shouldn't want to have to have accessories right isn't that what they're trying to do yeah I mean they won't shoot it they want you to be like buying air pods or beats headphones that are Bluetooth and wireless and want you to keep now you end up carrying three I carry literally three kinds of headphones every time I travel because you need the headphone jack like you can't watch like movies on the plane if you don't have a regular heavy on Jack and then you know and then the ear pods die if you know if you're talking on the phone for like an hours or you know an hour to you they're gonna die so yeah so I'm carrying three headphones all the time but so anyway the future yeah from Tammy Thompson what was the logic of keeping the iPhone 7 and killing the iPhone 10 which people would still snap them up with the a 11 Bionic chip that's why is it still better than the other phone processors okay yeah they don't it's very easy why they don't have the iPhone 10 if you looked at the iPhone 10 and the 10s you'd buy the 10 like if it was a couple hundred dollars cheaper even a hundred dollars cheaper there's just there's not anything really in the 10s that is like oh my god I have to have that so if they kept this older device people would buy it and they want you to buy the new one and that's why it's dead one more from Carlos does the face ID unlock faster did you get a chance to try it out sharra I didn't get a try face ID unlock on these phones because you know it's kind of hard they don't really in the demo areas you don't really have a lot of time to set up that kind of stuff or at least I didn't I know like when you know when like reviews come out I know that'll be something people look at but no I wasn't able to try that yeah they said it was supposed to be faster like the sensors on the front facing camera is supposed to be much higher on this time around but I like face out he's already pretty fast so I I still have like a I would say like for a while I was a maybe a 50% success rate I had to type in my password 800 times a day now I'm it's a little better I'm like you know 70 percent or something I you know when I'm watching when it's on horizontal mode it doesn't unlock out really like if you were watching a video and it somehow goes asleep you go back you can't use face ID at the turn it back over then you should just stay sideways it's annoying doing this over and over again is not cool no I mean when you set up face ID scan it so it thinks your heads on sideways yeah but then it doesn't work if I'm holding it normal way so get to phones and alright with the last few minutes let's talk about that bunker cuz that was pretty gnarly yeah completely out of everybody's reach here but still kind of cool to think about yeah shrim Joyce says I'm disappointed with the limitation of the 8.3 million dollar bunker the highest end model should allow a pair of species and be called the bunker of Noah and they probably could yeah we could probably fit as many animals in there as you want we just you know yeah and they would probably be dead within like a week or so cuz I would hope they would have like no circulation and food yeah exactly yeah they would probably be dead I hope it's not like a box they just yeah I mean yeah if you're paying 8.3 million dollars so you know I mean how many iPhone 10s is that yes I was just kind of interested in this tell me a little bit more about like some of the amenities that are available inside I was actually watching this like minute mini doc series on Netflix about this guy who's trying to like build an underground call the SEC I guess really but so people get a community of people kinda not like permanent living so that everybody can have like fail-safe in light of some kind of mega disaster but he was putting in like Wi-Fi and you mentioned the wine cellar and it's like what are some of these other things that are completely quote unquote necessary for these so one company is doing this thing called the they're called like rising s they're based out of like Texas and they have they're offering these things called virtual windows which is basically just a TV with like a live stream of like stuff going on outside because you're underground it's depressing there's not really much to see or do or anything like that so here's a live stream of you know like the actual outside world and you can pretend like you're you're actually living in like not in an underground bunker yeah and then yeah it's like that's supposed to work as long as you have Wi-Fi but I'm very curious about how well the Internet is going to function you know if like a bomb like struck like a major like city or something like that you know so I don't really know how well that worked there was one other thing that I saw it was in a poster but it wasn't like in any of the shelters that I saw I was called like the power station 3000 which it's a stationary bike that connects to a battery bank I ride it for 15 minutes and it like charges your devices and stuff the best part was it work out to was like on the on the poster that was like trying to sell it was like anyone can ride a kids teenagers adults athletes and senior citizens and I'm like cool that's the future you'd have to live in if you lived in an underground bunker trying to think what else like was interesting that I had seen like during my research on this what else was there oh yeah they mentioned like some of them could have like smart home capabilities but again like I said like I don't know how well they would work like in an event like it's a waste of power yeah like I don't know why you'd want to do something like that but you know smart home yeah you'd need like a Wi-Fi network like connecting all of them like a mesh network yeah yeah there was one there's one in Las Vegas that was built in 1978 the underground house which is now owned by like a nonprofit society that is very mysterious and doesn't want to let anyone know like it so they didn't let me in as like a Crestview kind of thing but I mean they explained it was like kind of for good reason like they're trying to keep it more secretive because like the times that they did show it off they literally got calls and threats a lot from people that lived in the area those basically tell him if a nuclear apocalypse happens we're going to break into your house and we're gonna use that or whatever there was one woman who basically offered like hey look if you let us use your nuclear bunker I will contribute to repopulating the planet and I'm like and apparently she wasn't the only one that has done that as like offered to that because they were just like yeah we're not interested sorry don't come to our house but yeah they that one was really nice too they have a pool they have a bar they have a grill underground the bunker I don't know man exhaust just a chimney in there and it has like a guest house and everything is it's ridiculous so yeah they can get like really extravagant down there okay all right so closing thoughts what is the one feature you would need in your tiny bunker your tiny smart bunker go probably you got 8.3 million dollars to burn what are you installing in your tiny bunker just happened don't worry about it don't worry about it I don't know like survival skills that I noted this pretty heavily throughout my story was I usually what the one like perk or the one like dumb questions just give me a dog I'll just hang out with a dog the whole day you like cats yeah that would be better in a bunker yeah cuz you don't have to walk it yeah yeah well basically I noted in my story that like I have no survival skills so even if I did have a bunker and I survived like the initial plan it's so done I would be dead like a nice day somebody would find me that's like hey look this guy is a bunker so yeah I guess I guess a gun then can I can I choose gun but no you're paying like 8.3 million dollars you can get those like really cheap put likies the our center gravity like maybe a massage chairs your mom yeah like that but i don't know i hate playing these games probably gonna get like tense if you're down there and you know stressful I don't know if I'm gonna eight point three million dollar I'm not stressed they're probably like just chillin a babysitter alright Shara of save us Mike shots is a bowling alley I like that yeah that's a good one yeah I do like the bowling alley idea cuz you gotta have like something to entertain yourself you know I hate karaoke but I could see like a karaoke yeah but are you down there alone this is probably not sick sing karaoke by yourself at the end of the world swing that's depressing thought we got Matt says Internet or unlimited books Matt also included Playboy magazines and maybe will steer away from that one for me the ultimate thing that I'm going to need in my end of the world bunker is a notch and on that note we're going to wrap up the show thanks everybody for joining us we'll be back tomorrow Roger send us out alright this podcast is available on iTunes TuneIn stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner google play music google podcasts on echo of course Tina calm thanks everyone see y'all tomorrow good bye