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welcome to 359 röntgen I'm Ben Fox ribbon I'm Alfred Aang it's good to be back for the craziness of Las Vegas at CES one of the big themes of the show had to be the back and forth between Amazon's Alexa and Google assistant Ben you you covered this pretty closely who do you think won it's pretty obvious it was Google but it was guy too I mean I'm not Amazon's guy come on so Google won it out obviously because they spent a ton of money yes he's spending an insane amount of money on marketing so they just really wanted to flood the zone at the show and it's partly because they're right now number two in smart speakers they're like Amazon basically dominates right now they have two-thirds of the market in the United States with smart speakers Google only has about a third and then everybody else is kind of fighting over the scraps right otherwise so that gives Google a very good reason to spend I don't know how much money they did on Google the ride and really trying to do like oh go ahead I was gonna ask though why do you think they want just because their names were everywhere like did they actually have better products and features come out over Amazon I mean I think the marquee feature was the Google Google to promote being able to translate different language 27 different languages but yeah I was it was definitely for me it was more of a presence thing they were everywhere you couldn't avoid seeing them they have a lot of announcements to they a ton where's Amazon house but they were just there were announced to partners right they didn't actively announce anything themselves yeah yeah that's right and I thought it was interesting like for instance Lenovo came out with a product that looks a lot like the echo spot so that's that's you know the kind of rival the like one of those Amazon products KitchenAid came out with a smart display uses Google assistance and iOS on has to fight off KitchenAid of all companies so there was just a lot that Google was trying to stack up and I think they definitely did a good job they also advertised like crazy all over Las Vegas so it was just if they were really trying to make a big splash and show folks that hey where he and we're really looking to compete then they did that job alright so another theme from CES was foldable displays LG surround us with its big screen rollable Ola television but I was looking from the phone perspective royal flex PI was there it was just like trying to start up with this kind of janky foldable phone I tried it actually hardware wise it wasn't bad software wise it's a complete mess but we just saw report in The Wall Street Journal today that what more phones are coming particularly Motorola or Lenovo is bringing back the Motorola RAZR as a $1500 flip phone I am what the foldable display oh dude I'm good unless you know they drop that price like severely from I mean clearly this is not meant for the typical user right this is this is gonna be a novelty item this is gonna be an item for the one-percenters I'm a one-percenter I'm stinking rich but I'm good all right well that I mean look that's the future foldable phones lastly Nike and yesterday unveiled its new self-lacing shoes yesterday alfrid take us through this well one of the shoes like were they called yeah that so adapt bb's this is the sequel to the 2016 hyperadapt 1.0 is that they came out with they're gonna be available February 17th for three hundred and fifty dollars and you they tie themselves based on an app that you get through Nike or you can just you know if you don't want to use your phone or give Nike your data right it has buttons on the sides one that is closer to the back like will loosen it and then the one closer to your toes well what he's lighting it I just saw you just do a front flip is there is there like an a button on the app that pushes see the difference in athletic ability based on the tightness of the shoe yep they had all these basketball players they're like dunking basketballs and stuff but I can't dunk a basketball I tried several times shocker so I was like okay what can I do so I put it really loose and I tried the flip and then I put it really tight and I tried the flip and it definitely does make a difference you feel like you have more grip and control when it's really tightened versus when it's like loose you're more relaxed I can see that for when you're just like sitting down and just want to jello and don't want to really tie to alright for a full coverage tricks on scene at Roger Chang and Fox Ruben I'm Alfred Hank thanks for sitting oh it's good to be back thanks again everybody for joining us and thanks for putting up with us during the mini hiatus slash change a format there sorry we don't really take the chat when we're at CES it's more difficult cuz it's such a revolving door on that stage but it's still good to you know continue the coverage and for anybody who is subscribed to the audio podcast sorry we're kind of ate up your inbox there's a change from a four-minute show to a 25-minute show or whatever it was but yeah as always we're back into the normal swing of things so send in your comments and questions what did you like at CES but more importantly guys what did you like at CES but why what did I like you guys covered the business stuff here today let's talk about the things that piqued your person I mean I said this last week but the the mouthguard though washes your mouth five seconds you know the thing is so ridiculous don't try it even if it's a chance to work I would brush your teeth it'll take you two minutes and this takes ten seconds right yeah Wow I could write a novel with the time that I buy more time so we're done stories exactly Rogers a busy man like well no I could I could I could make sure the thorough clean and go 20 seconds or you can do that but for two minutes like it's recommended and then that'll like you'll be brushing your teeth all that time so that you don't have to brush your teeth I take showers for three hours so that I don't shower the rest of the week that's the other one I like I like the the boxer but no it's not meant for individuals I think it's meant for gyms but ideas like it actually scans your stance it'll it'll shout directions at you it'll tell you change like totally move duck dodge I'm just play Wii boxing dude mm-hmm yeah I know I also mentioned this on stage but I thought it was ridiculous enough that it's worth mentioning again the Lamborghini massage oh yeah $30,000 in size chair it's like a full body thing just does it being a Lamborghini addition make a difference it's like meant to look like borghini it's made by a different company I don't remember what I thought a friend oh yeah nice it's the Korea's number one massage chair maker yeah well maybe like it's so expensive that they actually number them and make them collector's items but I have no idea I can't resell them if you like put your butter there for like a month or I mean like who would want to buy like a used $20,000 massage chair anyway it seems like all the coolest tech from CES is like out of reach for anybody that has like an average salary pretty much I was mostly impressed with the impossible burger yes yeah I really I'm hoping to see more of that in stores like right now the only times I've seen it is at restaurants I like oh we stock this but I'd like to be well you haven't tried 2.0 yet no yeah I would like to be able to try to get it as like a grocery item I haven't either I'm actually pretty eager to try cuz they I tried it it seemed like it was a lot better than 1.0 which I have tried it's not that green to me it was better I wasn't really wowed by a simply the talk of the show for sure 2.8 well they did a good job of kind of you know zigging when everybody else is agged right in that you you're talking about like a veggie patty at a tech show yes so there are tech elements in making it but at the same time it kind of stood out in that it's not a grocery show so yeah it was a just say I think this is the first time food was allowed as like an entry into CES look we can't use food tech yeah yeah your your move beyond me burgers up to you that's that's the other guy yeah yeah someone in the chat named Bonnie Gannon I'm not sure who that is she says that you were really really enamored by the property brothers now weren't you been I thank you for watching Bonnie that's really great she was she was how did she know that otherwise uh yeah I got to go to their house and check out their cool digs is the property brothers compound oh they didn't invite me I kind of just jumped over the fence you back over the fence wait wait did they call the compound I think they did because like you know one of the brothers how about its behind it like a gain and howdy big no okay no they could it could have a small cult look I would say all right so yeah they have a game room and a pool which includes a projector screen so you can like watch movies at the pool but I have a brother's property that makes way more sense that does make me more Sun so I'll tell them that next time I talk to them so yeah but yeah it was cool hanging out we're gonna get more coverage from you on that right yes yes yes and I continued my celebrity hangouts at CES last year was Tony Romo this year you know my way up next year it'll be bring I don't know Obama well we'll try you look like the like the I like it there Obama that let's spread to all these conspiracy if there is on Twitter yeah well I shot for Obama you went for Alfred yeah the same way sure you can watch all of the property brothers features on Cena calm and on YouTube at CNET we had them at the stage too and for what it's worth the the past couple of months with all of the chatter about the property brothers I don't watch Home & Garden so I'm sitting around and you guys are talking about these this show and it's like what's so special about this we've seen house flippers before this isn't anything all that spectacular and then you meet him in person and as a heterosexual male you fall in love and they are the most charming sweet wonderful people and like the fact that they're writing those children's books now to was really really super cool so I get it now guys I get the property brothers yeah there you go yes I'm am a fan all right next question Hector wants to know what was the one product you could not believe was a thing uh you know what Katie wrote about this it was like the like the emotional support robot oh right right that was a good one yeah that was I have a hard time with that like buy a dog your large high maintenance they are but like they need homes also homes more than a robot privileged enough to be social and friendly and you know I know people whereas some of us you know just don't like people and like definitely relate to robots more so but you could get a pet I mean the whole idea is to be like a pet supplement or pet replacements no that doesn't hey you know what you guys are making some pretty good points I'm gonna have to start backpedaling now you take away your kids like teddy bears and stuff is a you know one of my kids one of my kids walked around with a pair of pants like that's his love is a bear Lance yeah father yeah I see that's kind of the perfect segue into what I thought was an oddball and stemming off of what storm Kings asking about any thoughts on the machine that folds clothes oh I didn't actually see it I just read about it I mean there's just too much to see the whole deal with this though like you you still had to feed the clothes one by one yeah and you had to sort of pre fold them so it was not what I was hoping it would be all the laundry definitely fold closer this machine you should do a challenge I mean we were gonna do that but then we realize that was stupid oh we need a Coinstar yeah always dumping go tire pile we are their millennial thing but do people still fold clothes yes yes what I just hang it all up I put on clothes hanger oh I thought everything up I don't hang my jeans like I like fold my jeans what about your socks do you fold you know I fold those two boxers I just throw that in a drawer why do those my girlfriend's taken over three of the closets and the watch tiny you should be folding everything organized everything that's organized it's all in one drawer I guess all right one other weird thing was the bread making machine hella cool robot right is it basically a vending machine yeah yeah but it was still it was interesting I I kind of think it's fun when things show up at the show that aren't really supposed to be there and that one definitely got a lot weird but still like the idea that you could have your little corner market that wouldn't be able to house a full-on bakery I could put this in the corner and say hey fresh baked but it's way too expensive but yeah it is too expensive but I mean it was a hundred thousand dollars for a five or six year lease yeah oh just a lease just on the moment just the lease also whoever came up with the headline for this on SEANET second to none give them a raise a lot of funds there yeah well I mean it is her Forte yeah she is quite rye oh god get out get out all right moving on let's get some more questions in before we got to wrap up the show we are running out of time the giant apple billboard outside CES was kind of funny I'd still don't trust it though that's from mark dybul I thought that was a nice little jab and twist of the knife but also not true yeah that's a big fat lie what stays or what something goes on your iPhone stays your iPhone it's not remotely true yeah I mean like if you're using the people on your iPhone you're still sending Google that data it's not like oh this is where iCloud hacks let you like the release of personal information like clearly this stuff on your iPhone doesn't always stay in your iPhone yeah Apple also took like nine billion dollars from Google to keep Google as a default search engine so that you know anytime you search for something on your iPhone Google what they wanted out of that it was one billboard it probably didn't cost them that much and also spurred a lot of discussion it was right there right by LBCC mm-hmm like perfectly placed by the Google they did not need to Google was spending a ton of money doing so many advertisements this was one and they got a lot of precedent that's why I'm not sure I don't really agree if your assessment that Google won this out just because they were everywhere I don't know what the return on their investment was like that's okay they look at the ROI it's probably questionable because they spent so much money but I mean I would say I agree with Ben's assessment that they basically 1cs yeah description and also just to share about announces that came death from Google itself yeah it wasn't gonna be Amazon for a third year in a row like Google just like once Amazon builds a ride then yes they'll give it back to them sir enjoy mentions did you notice that this year's CES showcase more laptops and mainstream computers in previous years I liked it I think Dan Ackerman shared that sentiment we should get him on the show to kind of expand on the thought but did you guys notice that as well yeah yeah I mean it was an arm of the show that I didn't pay focus as much on like I was very much like looking at like what was going on with the Amazon world I'll be the bread butter at CES is often TVs and appliances and laptops to a lesser extent but I think this year there are a lot more I don't know I'm still I remain bored with laptops I mean yeah there were some interesting things like a unique Mouse right there kind of compare it to the TV so the two that really stood out to me were like LG had a rolled old television and Samsung showed off their like the whole yeah he's a giant modular TV so made of micro LEDs I think they shrunk it this year just show that they can do that it could just it doesn't just have to be this giant but yeah people were very interested also in the rollable TV they just thought it was like a really interesting piece of technology were talking about with foldable phones is that the more you can do this with display is the more interesting stuff that's possible probably one of the most interesting things to look at was the LG waterfall right the entrance to the LG booth had all these flexible displays rolling clouds and like see my kid like starry nights yeah it was pretty mesmerizing to watch it wasn't really cool I actually liked and it's hard to say if I liked that one more than last year's Canyon the canyon was also really cool because you walked through it yes oh good because it was like right the entrance is such a hall and like you had to fight the crowds every time just to get through there yeah I was worth it it was pretty it was pretty nice like moths to a flame we all just really like rolling oh yeah Michael Browns asking if we saw any smart health items there I know last year we saw like the hit air bags but what do we see this year I'd like to go ahead and cite Clare's my Segel adventure yes yep there was actually a ton of health stuff I think Bridget talked about that remote ultrasound device that could connect to your phone that really could revolutionize how ultrasounds are taken like either remotely on the field because it just connects your phone and then yeah Claire's bike air bag yeah which basically the second you hit the ground it goes just inflates right which is pretty clever and upgrade over like last year's like it was a belt what the hip thing good thing yeah I guess I don't know if it's the same company though so there's Claire yeah they did you can't tell what a truce is very slender she's very committed yeah she also got a chance to try out the massage chair so she probably had the funnest job of the show that's very true yeah as we are running out of time let's squeeze in the last couple here from Timothy do what's the percentage of gadgets that will not make it to market oh god like 90% I wouldn't go that high but yes I'm pretty sad to go higher I would say like 95 so they're just showing stuff off just for whatever that's what CES is all about cool stuff the vision of the next five years yeah I don't know I mean yeah I mean there's a number of products that they showed that were already on the market for one thing but a lot like the feature stuff the stuff that's really cool or like stuff you find in those evening conferences show up because you're right all the future of transportation stuff that we were talking about the chances of any of that reaching the market is pretty low like there was like a flying taxi that looked super futuristic like where the hell is that axis looks like it was straight out of a Terminator movie yeah that was pretty awesome but yeah like they're supposed to be in the running for lubbers air taxi project so proves my point Uber's air taxi project come on yep those that jumble of words will never actually become a reality but then also the autonomous vehicles like all the autonomous cars which one looked really cool the autonomous motorcycle right like what totally why would you even though you don't that's the whole point they like did they did basically to prove they could do it was terrifying that's right when when Batman like controls his motorcycle from like far away to like catch up with him yeah that's the only use I could see that for whoa well we could use more crime fighters I mean especially during the government shutdown why not sure we could use all the help we can get to fight crime in this big setting yeah please please do that alright we are out of time everybody but thanks for joining us and welcome back welcome back to us welcome back to you it's good to be back before we go some of the things we weren't able to get to Samsung 75 inch 5 inch micro LED 4k TV the syringe eye sighting apples big plan to open things up the third party oh it's true and TV and airplay on that list I think air plays on that list too right yes yes yeah it's nuts man I never thought we'd see that day but yeah we'll certainly be recapping some more CES stuff but we're back in the groove will have more headlines for you tomorrow same bat-time same bat-channel Roger take us on out of here all right these available iTunes tune in feedburner google play music with a podcast the Amazon echo of course Tina calm we'll see y'all tomorrow bye bye you you