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it's Tuesday January 24 2012 and welcome to rumor has it I'm cream levy and I'm Emily Dreyfuss and this is the show where we round up the week's hottest tech rumors and then we bet on them to see who understands the rumour mill better turns out it's not usually me but if you will take a look at the whiteboard of shame somebody's winning where it counts for one more one do we have it is there a sound of clapping for clapping because she felt sorry for me and we took to sucker bets one was that Apple came out or they had their education event yes we were they literally the the invitation was like we are having an education event next week and then we bet on whether it would be about books that about whether or not i would have to do with the ibook software and I against everything in my heart but said of course it will be said maybe not I mean the invitation said I basically said this is gonna be my books like without actually saying that because what else would be about an Emily was a gracious gentlemen and was just like I'm gonna say no that's not what it's about the thing is what you guys are about to discover is that I am a very gracious winner and I am a very sore loser right yes I am you're about to see me just sitting here stealing in my angry juices you should move then Emily's like well this is what I should do for humiliation day I'll play a video game I'm like great doesn't think that's embarrassing that's embarrassing you guys haven't seen me play a video game it's horrible I am terrible at it I die all the time but if we're videotaping you do that in the your own house how is that embarrassing we show it on the show I walked around in a banana suit I mean and lay it in public yeah I think I should go out in public and like pretend to be Mario or something to jump around yeah maybe challenge people like I am like a hustler I could challenge the how do you gave a little banishing I think that's a little better like we'll go to the video down cake gamespot yeah yeah I would be like boys watch here to be challenged you see I was saying I was thinking to a video arcade at like the movie theater where it's a bunch of 12 year olds and you just come with a roll of quarters and be like all right who wants to play and then just like pit you know we could whatever just give them a quarter to I mean that's cool that would be totally fine by me or we could go to the bowling alley where they have your kid and then they have dance dance revolution dove em okay at Dance Dance Revolution I still look like a fool but I managed to pass levels but that's pretty embarrassing anyway just jammed Anton's revolution in public is kind of originating that I kind of like it so let's let's let's see that maybe on Sunday we'll go to the video arcade right and take care take care of a little humiliation lots of movies i want to c 2 is it for next week is it next week is humiliation day or the weekend so next week is the last show of this month okay so it's it's fine by me if we do it then like I don't need to do it the first offender it depends on when we can get ourselves to a video arcade if that's in fact what we decide to do okay yeah if you give us all any better ideas for how you want me to embarrass myself leo sore loser I also know what I'll do it does anybody use or lose me I I am such a sore loser that literally my family will not play Scrabble with me because I i think i'm gonna be okay about it I'm like it'll be fine even if I lose it's no big deal it's like just a game I'm not gonna take it to heart ain't no thing and then the moment that someone in my family begins to win like my mind just shuts down i get so angry it's like I can't deal with it I need to go to like rage therapy um about losing I one time was playing Scrabble and my friend at the time was always always won every single time we play it and what time I could not handle it we were at a coffee shop playing cuz that's what you did in college huh I started crying I'll optional Rajan's wasn't even losing by that bad and I do it well and I think it's particularly difficult for us because we're copy editors and writers this all type of lousy people expect us to win and then when we don't win they gloat about it's like oh look at you Emily you're the writer and you didn't even know that key was a word do because this is why I don't like about competitive Scrabble players can I just get this off my chest those two letter words that you just only know about because of Scrabble should be disallowed Qi Shuai Shuai I play that on words with friends all the time ridiculous I know I don't like it I agree I agree because i feel like if that should be allowed than qua Tyrion let's just have proper names and high wit big nouns like yeah and Latin in Spanish I will have vosotros por favor okay okay sorry all right shall we get to our first rumour yes please sorry scrabbles I have Scrabble players everywhere I know you love it I not to cry next time I pay um I'm losing really bad on words with friends with everybody I'm playing right now so you should play key more um okay ready see you have the first luma the first rumour is could Instagram come to Windows Phone before it comes to android so this rumor comes to us from our very very best friend frontline Andrew yeah you let him at CES it was so fun we gave him a t-shirt it was so nice to see that chat room right now yes in the chatroom line it was so great to have you there in the audience with us in vegas probably here to make sure i don't f up the rumor that he submitted to us he's like I'm very interesting take on that so anyway so a source recently left the impression I don't know what that means so the story comes from Fast Company dot-com recently left the impression that the Windows Phone team has possibly been working with the people from Instagram why would instagram come to an OS with such a low market share because it's sexy and I think that with integrated handles images so one bones are really great at nokia has good you know yeah cameras & under windows phone 7 s new design approach however devices have to live up to a certain standard and that works for Instagram as well because all the phones that they use that they have there oh whatever app on has a good camera and that is the iphone so yeah and that is the solitary only phone that they have their app on is the iphone which kind of flows with the windows fun thing you know has a nice design the OS is really sleek yeah um it's about usability not about customization exactly and not about power really it's more about the hardware they don't want to deal with slow hardware and cheap cameras like they wanted you know high-end kind of stuff and unfortunately you'll never come to the iPad exactly so um also designing an app for Windows Phone 7 means Instagram wouldn't be dealing with the fragmentation that comes with dozens of models of Android SAT phones which i think is true because then with an android phone you have a lot of crappy cameras a lot of slow inside parts and a lot of old like i would if and if instagram came to android i would want it but i'm running like the oldest version of android that there is yeah and it wouldn't be optimized for it be optimized the camera is only mediocre and you know and it was like a 10 second lag exactly and so I think Instagram is really really wants to maintain a level of awesomeness and to do that they'll have to you know stick with iphone and maybe go to windows and not that android phones aren't good because they are and the ones are great and they're fast and whatever but you know that story just came out that android is like now the new developers uh OS of choice exactly but because they have a lot of low-end phones on the market i think then it's hard to for instagram to like pick and choose like it can't just go to the you know droid razr or whatever the ass bone it has to go to all of them I mean unless they just say it's only compatible with like ice cream sandwich which would be a way for them to only get on the top of the line phone I mean I think they will like Instagram is gonna come to Ice Cream Sandwich I think this rumors are saying it'll come to Windows Phone are absolutely I think so which means that google got burnt because that I was saying something in if those eight people over at Instagram that's apparently their whole company they're just like eight or nine people are like the eight or nine richest people like geniuses over there are really killing it and so they're like you know what I think we're going to go with the underdog here we're going to go to Windows next and so everybody involved in this rumors really tight-lipped Instagram CEO Kevin Systrom was like I don't know I don't want to say anything which is super obvious because he doesn't want to really burn google out loud yet you know you don't want to mess with you don't as i said and i like the mob because because then google is going to come out with instagram plus and make you join it if you want to have a gmail account and then buy instagram against instagrams will yeah and then by and by blackberry and then just be like well in order to use anything you have to use our version of Instagram plus a circle also you have to have google plus yeah in order to use any of this also who use gmail and download google chrome I mean I feel like they're crazy so God I gotta say instagram has replaced my addiction for words with friends I'll use it all the time costly and I feel sorry for android users that you don't have it yet but how does it do the same thing as words with friends no I mean I'm addicted it's an actual yeah it's icy it's like the best parts of Twitter and Facebook like combine like the pictures from facebook and like little comments or whatever and hashtags and at replies or whatever from Twitter combined and you can upload to Twitter and Facebook from Instagram the same time I'll just cool mean I gotta say I'm not generally that jealous of you who have iphones like I don't as you guys know I don't care about Siri I don't care about a lot of the things the iphone i don't think it's screen is like prettier than mine i love the screen on my phone but not being able to use Instagram makes me so sad I mean it's the apps it really was like I had um an android phone I had black well I had a blackberry phone and then I was like okay I needed to get an android because I'm so jealous of all these apps and then I had android and I got all these like hipstamatic replacements that like his word and I'll of somatic and then finally I got my iphone I was like that's it like I'm never gonna get another phone and it's not because of the phone itself I could care less it's because of the apps it and will I have hipstamatic or like not hip somatic I have the the retro camera for android because Instamatic is not for Android and what's so annoying about it is that when i send the pictures from that app to twitter they show up as tiny thumbnails unless people are mm like sign up for that out oh and then it has like the all that but really all these ads and when we were at CES I was tweeting like what I thought were so my artistic shots of the back lot of CES and I kept getting all these tweets from people being like that looks like a tiny thumbnail could you please enlarge you're doing something wrong I have a couple apps that are a little bit better than that that aren't as hipstamatic II but that can you can do some like old old timey they need that yeah the actual camera sucks i want to play with it yeah totally and I after getting Instagram I don't even use hipstamatic and the cool thing about Instagram is you can use hipstamatic and then upload the photo you know another jelly so you can like I mean there's all sorts of possibilities so it's super cool you can see what your friends are posting it's like a stream of pictures which is really funny um so I don't know that this would be we did do a story on Android Atlas recently that they are working on it for Android it just I guess Windows Phone just gonna beat up to yeah which in I mean which is just a big snap if you exactly yes yes oh yeah so this would be a huge boon for Microsoft which is my new favorite company because the xbox now I love I just want to put that out there that I love Microsoft because of the xbox 360 that I just got one minute ago but the pig is the biggest problem that people have with Windows Phone is that there aren't enough apps for it and so if there aren't enough phones running well right there aren't enough anything for ya but if like one of the biggest apps goes to Windows Phone first that's going to be a huge Venable so you know I need a new phone and I would go to Windows Phone in a second just because I don't want to be an iphone user I never have wanted to be one if it had obviously needs Pandora which I can get our he has in need I need Instagram with a movie zap from fluh from no not Netflix but from rotten tomatoes where it's like you can see what's on and you can see what um what their scores are and I need Yelp and I need facebook and near times and that's about it so I then I'll go and I think most of those are on I don't know i just i imagine i don't know what's on there if there's not a facebook or twitter one and that's ridiculous but i'm sure there is i'm sure there is too i don't know about the new york times one but i don't know i think like if you had iphone for just a month you think i would love it i think i would never want I think it's just the most like a user-friendly easiest if if if you don't want to do very much with your phone if you just want it to work yes but I wanted to work for phone calls is the it does is it good yeah they're fine all right it's really fine I think it was just I think it was like I got brownie i have AT&T you know I and I ever eyes eyes but I had so many friends who had the iphone on ATT and I could never hear what they were saying yeah and then i would call them and they'd and that called him like four times and then they'd call me days later and say you never called me that day and like their phone would literally not even register a mask on I think that was an AT&T thing not an iphone thing because I've knock on wood never had a problem with my verizon phone except the other day when it just bricked for no reason and then I had good and then I was like I don't know what to do and i went to jason parker and i was like he was like let me read the deadpan on your face takes an emergency i was like doing that thing where you press both but whatever and he did it and it worked yeah so he picks my ipad 12 thanks Jason okay shall we get to the next aroma yes please okie dokie this one is a valve a new luma actually it's an older and recombine with the new thing the new thing is the iBooks to which was released last week Apple the thing that is making me lose this spot is Oscar bed this month um I books to was released by apple as you know because they're trying to reinvent the textbook and I have a lot of feelings about it because even though it seems really awesome I think the semi hubris of assuming that American classrooms are gonna be able to integrate iPads into every classroom when we're in such a budget crunch is a little bit ridiculous so unless they get a really good deal from Apple but Apple didn't announce any sort of education discount so it's kind of ridiculous like I was expecting in that announcement that they would announce yeah discount 11 ipad for every student kind of thing like the wop or like if you if you are a public education system you can get it at cost or something like that yeah they didn't say anything about that which has led some people to believe that this gives extra fodder to the ipad 3 rumor that that the ipad 3 will come in two configurations a cheaper and a better version and then the cheaper version would be what would be sent to schools to be integrated in the classroom ok so that brings us to this rumor which is that I books to code reveals HD images possibly indicating that the ipad 3 will in fact have a Retina display which we've talked about before we talked about to be judged by the time yes so but this is like actual more solid evidence evidence exactly and I mean it could just be an easter egg it could just be a red herring buried in the code but what they found our images labeled within the code the the supporting files of ibooks to and iTunes you labeled to X dot PNG and then when you look when you compare those images when you actually take them out of the code and look at the image they are huge and what the people over at mac rumors macrumors no no 9to5 mac said of them is that it seems as though they are the exact right size to support a device that would be 2048 x 1536 pixel resolution which is way bigger than 1080p which is the current HD and so that is the retina display like that is what a retina retina display of the size of an ipad would be so it's kind of interesting there's also what i think is sort of interesting bout this room or two is that it doesn't involve any unnamed sources are aiming for one for once it's just the obsessive it's because they didn't go through digit times could've it's like money laundering they should have sent this rumor through digitized add together got bullied to get a couple unnamed sources in there um but actually it was just the dudes over at 95 mac who are obsessed and who had found images like this in iOS 5 when it first came out and said oh my god this indicates that the iPhone 5 is going to come out and have this and then at that time this was like a year ago Apple then responded to that and said that was just a row graphic designer yeah the future well and that engages exactly and that's what they say that they do that in the code they oh they put like a million different things and then the minute that a new OS or a new something comes out a new program or new app that all these like crazy developer people who know how to read code go in there and like I found this yaks GP you know jpg oh my god it's gonna be a microwave yeah and so they fight you know and and Apple probably puts like you said a lot of red herrings and yeah weird they're just like whatever put it and see what the response is maybe our see if it's possible and I mean I think with the with the retina display in particular there's so much a rat surrounding that rumor to say that it's true i mean we've had it reports from manufacturers in China who are working on it and we've had specific reports from unnamed sources about the progress that they're making of getting it done and who's making it and is it LG making it or is it going to be a sharp screen or what's gonna or how many cores of LEDs will it have like there's so many specific rumors I think we are going to have a Retina display I mean yeah and I think that that obvious it's almost obvious yeah why wouldn't that you know if they have the you know the technology to do it to have a thinner whatever or even a little bit thicker I remember that's one of the reasons that might be a little thicker remember the retina display Samson's reading the chat room but is that reminded me I was from Samsung I was wondering we need to go back and look at what Sam's I'm release it say yes to see if anything happened with the return adduce plea that was so like episode 8i think and we tried to sensationalize that headline by saying samsung is releasing the rich unity to see um but yeah I don't know I think that this means it's gonna have the ipad that it's gonna have the retina display on the ipad 3 I don't know what it says about whether or not there's gonna be iPad Mini or just a regular old ipad 3 that has everything one commenter on this story wrote if the ipad 3 has a retina display a better camera Siri and quad-core it'll be the best tablet ever I was like we already know and the thing is yeah it's already the best time whatever without any ways like and if they can drop it to 199 yeah it's gonna be unbeatable and it'll be unbeatable like it's ready and party is and then it's still 600 all so I think thanks for your advice to grant all right things I think thanks guy I really i don't know i like the idea of a smaller cheaper version of it for four um first not even yeah for sure for me yeah i mean i think it's i just think that apple has to do that i know that apple is not one to ever introduced a discount product or a cheaper product but it rubbed me the wrong way that they announced this initiative for children that is amazing but we live in a stratus stratified the world where some people have a lot and some people don't and if you are going to say we need to educate our kids and here's this technology that will make it better and only the people who can afford to spend six hundred dollars for their kids ipad brain I mean and then a lot of people I talked about this on Twitter and a lot of people wrote back to me and said well I'm in college or I'm in graduate school and I'm studying foreign economics and my textbooks cost six hundred dollars in a semester so for me it would be right it's economical anyway is economical but it's not for a fourth grader right especially when you're in a school where they actually just give you the textbook so you don't even have to buy them you know you just have to wrap them in a brown paper bag to get touched up and you just have to promise not to write in the margins which everyone does but and the problem with that Apple is right the problem with when you just give people the text books that you've always had is those textbooks or 15 years old and now yeah and now they can go is not a planet right nigga be updated well they could be updated every year for maybe you know for way cheaper than it would be to buy a whole new set of textbooks they would be magic and fun and kids would like to like yeah crowd around them and watch it I'm all for it I just think they may offer subsidies yeah they need to make they need to be responsible about recognizing that you don't want to separate people so much right well and you know maybe it'll start out as it because when i saw the event or whatever and i know that they were showing like and like a kid's astronomy book and like touching whatever but like when i was thinking about it i really was thinking about college and grad school yeah this is like a perfect thing for college and grad students and maybe by micheal earley and maybe that's like their first like you know we're really pushing it for college and grad students and if it takes off in it and if people use it and if people are writing books for it then maybe later they'll offer subsidies to schools or maybe you know they'll get rid of football and the arts to get an ipad in the classroom you know get rid of all the sports programs and I might have an iPad that would be the day that American no wonder is so I don't know or maybe you know they can get used ipads or so right i think there's a lot of people who can apply for like school boards can apply for to get ipad and tech enthusiasts i think those who said it in the UM in the chat room earlier was like no iPad left behind so yesterday seen I did a story that they've already sold 350,000 textbooks in three days yeah I saw that it means be really clean up like they announce anything and it gets crazy attention and I mean kids are already using their parents iPads like I think we've talked about this on the show before but when you put an iPad in the child's hand it changes everything kids love it yeah and and they respond so great to it so I imagine if those people who bought those textbooks are parents who own iPads and they were like oh I'm gonna go ahead and get my kid that one about geography like I actually think I don't know if you people who own iPads out there one of my favorite things to do the ipad sometimes I look at it and I'm like what do I do with you what are you what should I be doing with you right now what am I absolutely everything to do with it at a time like that is to use google earth yeah well I'm just obsessed with it and so I'm from Idaho and I haven't been there in a long time and I was sad because I didn't get to go home for Christmas so I have this is so pathetic but on my on Google Earth I have perfected the ability to from zoomed out in space in one move of my fingers one pit long pinch out without adjusting it all zoom directly in on my house in Idaho that's pretty awesome there was a there's a another app that this is like now we're totally off the point actually somewhat beat master in the chat room set how come you don't think of ipad 1st generation the lower price wouldn't you know the ipad 3 gets released will make it more kid compatible I'm just true but then he then or he or she I'm not sure later says you know but what about oh no somebody else said well I don't know how to read the chat room but anyway well will they last and what I books even work on oh that was cousin of job well I will the ipad 1b support side works too I'm not sure about that I don't remember what they said about that my only thing that I would say about that is that generally when a new generation ipad comes out the next gen doesn't get that much of a discount I mean it's race that's true it's naughty but it's like ninety nine dollars in which totally I mean I i don't i don't see that helping inner-city schools get iPads oh but then people are saying that the textbooks don't even work on the first gen i have a first gen i hope they come out with the cheaper thing I can't i I don't remember what they said about that but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work on the first day I know I mean just to get me to go buy them yeah exactly they're like Kareem upgrade there is a really cool app have to say real quick it's like an astronomy app and you hold your ipad into the sky and then you it shows you like what stars ya know really cool and like I don't answer in phones to somebody has a nap except for that it's way cooler on the iPad totally so um alright let's move on to how I have an itch let's move on to our next rumor which is about casio what about me anybody put casaya yeah I know cuz when you think of Casa go you think of little likes or you think of um dick how exactly the the synthesizers only a good keyboard that's this big with the keys that big I had one of those and the little calculator watches yeah huh so that's cool anyway um a droid life tipster who claims to have spent time oh I didn't even say what the rumor was kassius is said to be prepping a quad-core handset so casio is really well known for like their ravine 2 which is kind of ugly but can be submerged in 50 feet of water yeah and then there's the other one which is like the l the elds own or g'zone zone I can never know it's goes own or is it on that's stupid ' in it that's all military grade ugly but yeah they work really well and you can like put them in antifreeze or like stomp on them they can be in an avalanche you and you can call your mom be like mom I'm in an avalanche yeah commenters in the story really we're like I don't think they're ugly I think that they work and I could drop him from my up here and they'll won't break I'm I understand if I was someone who worked outside and had strength and was in the elements i would hella have totally if you were in danger of being in an avalanche sony show a droid life tipster who claims to have spent time in a Casio focus group because they have focus groups advises that the hardware makers readying a number of new Android products among them is sweet it which is an unnamed device referred to as big boy it said to future hey boy super amoled yes Amal amo amo Olivia movie display in Oh them there's a typo in this okay I gotta go back in there and fix it later I'm super amoled display in the range of four and a half inches or larger the handset has a quad huge loss assessor and eight megapixel camera a huge battery 4G LTE connectivity front-facing 2-megapixel camera and fhm micro NFC capabilities sorry micro SD card expansion slot and a curve design much like the Galaxy Nexus so this person also saw all these other things that day during the focus group will call him a he I don't know he saw a white big what a big white phone some clamshell phones he's all big white oh my G a G zone phone and then they asked him if lake the warranties should be longer like this guy went into this focus group with a mission he is by mission was to remember everything he was like the girl with the dragon tattoo is memorizing he's like what is that likely listen if he had on one of those contact lenses that had a camera seriously it Blake was this guy taking notes like he left there and knew everything there was and it's also probably an agreement that said that he would not do exactly what he's at me and I bet when he left that day he was like I'm gonna make millions because when somebody leaks something about the iphone they make millions and selecting kishimoto i make money it'll god I know this guy leaves this thing and he's like guys I have all this news about casio and everybody's like the guy is a synthesizer pieces you're gonna make a new piano I'm awake and so I don't know it's not apple buddy the thing is those features sound like the best they make it sound like the best moment the best friend of all time and if it can be dropped for you know into antifreeze and like it yeah 50 meters of water and stay submerged like who wouldn't want this would want like why what I don't understand is like then it would be ten bazillion dollars because those phones are expensive yeah they're so rugged and other phones are expensive because they have a quad-core chip and Lake have lge and whatever and a like dual front-facing camera and all those done I have a great display this has all of that so this camera this phone will be two thousand dollars but professional Mountaineers who want to climb Everest yeah and it's for people in the military and be exactly hopefully they'll get idea subsidy doing today will and the ipad won't don't let this little leaker discourage you from making this this thing i once watched a cnet focus group when we were redesigning the homepage and we had people in to see like how they liked the homepage this was years ago not even this most recent redesign and it was so awesome because it was like I was in an interrogation room and it like one-way mirror or a one-way window you know where they couldn't see me but I could see them and they had like we had this tech that sees where their eyes are looking on the page it's like what are you looking at what are you looking at and they were always looking at ad ad ad ad ad but it was really great hair like I don't know how to use this imagine if that person had left there and been like hey San Francisco Chronicle cnet is planning a redesign I know and he has big red ball to the lip of one pixel I used to work at at a university and we used to do focus groups I worked in the marketing department we used to do focus groups for like oh can you get to the page where you I don't know what I called the view book page or like to sign from oh whatever but it was like for parents and they would like click on anything and we're and then they were like trying to click and it was up open to PDF but it didn't tell you that it was a PDF and so then they were trying to click around the PDF and it was so that's it sounds horrible it was I mean we did it on purpose to see like who actually so now I'm like a PD like PDF marking not see like you have to write that it's a PDF where people get confused yeah it's very scary scary I mean a lot of people don't understand about browsers like my mom she's all over the internet but when I say to her mom go to your browser and go to a web page she's like what does that mean is that what happens when I open my computer and the thing opens right yeah so you have to use the right terminology I like when people were like googling Facebook and then got to that annual story oh yeah there's a story that people like it was a new story about Facebook and all the timeread right wet readwrite Radley heart of the comments on that story about Facebook were like hey Facebook's would you do with a Gy jewelry design I can't log into Facebook because they thought that that was facebook because that's how they get into Facebook me I'm going the SEO of that story was so high that when you googled facebook that story came up first above facebook then they went to that they went to the top link like they'd always done for all those years and it was a read/write web story about how Facebook was doing something stupid and people will go to the bottom and comment and say I'm just trying to get into facebook give me my password and then I do you know my password ee confusing because read white reb god i can't read lying web um had a facebook connect button at the bottom oh you could sign in to their website using your facebook so I'm we're hitting that for and then weren't they were still just on readwriteweb and that they commented like we just don't get it they were there was like 300 comments on this poor oh my god I think there were thousands actually and the the moderator of the site wrote like guys this is a news article this is not Facebook you need to go to HTTP colon slash slash WWF ace book calm and they were like we don't want to do and then nobody was even reading that part like they put that in the story so anyway so let's talk let's move on to our next uh rumah I'm like what is that word the next thing ya the thing that I chose on will do a really quick eon this one won't give it the duck timer but it'll be as though there's a duck time okay ready Netflix oh oh Netflix is set and that's what the headline music Oh Netflix is set for an even worse 2012 according to our favorite people in the world analysts love you analyze a tune for analysts corner which is we're going to figure that out netflix says its international expansion is central to its growth growth but analysts are concerned that the companies overseas exploits could deliver a bundle of financial hurt Wedbush Wedbush led bush analyst Michael Pachter who we've we talked about my all time it's definitely going in our analyst corner totally we love Michael Packer because he always talks about Netflix and he talks crap about them because he hates them Oh George why do you hate them so much Michael I just think he's finishing the dirt I just think that I just think that he thinks that their business model is terrible it is a well-known did it he's a well-known digital entertainment analyst he criticized what he sees that Netflix's growth at all costs business model in a note adding that its desire to expand internationally will only cause it to incur losses for years and years and years and back in November this guy Pachter argued that the company should be getting its financial house in order before it starts to acquiring more subscribers overseas for little or no gain so basically here in America the company is going crazy trying to do this quick stir thing losing all these audition now marketing but that this back yeah you know trying to losing all its shares losing money losing all subscribers losing all of its subscribers and then they're like mmm you know what's a good idea right now we're gonna go to Europe late this is like what happens when you can't play for the NBA anymore so you go overseas and play play fan be over there or like when you're like a be lit rate actor you used to be on top and now you're not but you can still do commercials in Latvia right but it's because that you like have lost all ability the reason you can't do movies in America anymore is because you've like lost all ability to act and talk because you got a little fat and we here in America yeah and what about that exactly and so it's like you know rather than lose some weight and learn how to act they're just going to a different market you know what I mean and so I don't know Pachter has so much financial influence so that after he made this little prediction yesterday Netflix's shares closed down more than six percent like I mean so people are really i don't doubt one thing i'm confused about is why exactly does he think it's going to lead to a loss is because they can't because he doesn't understand why they're expanding without fixing all the problems that they have here so they are continuing to expand this broken business model into other countries without actually fixing what's wrong okay so it's just going to be the same problems there there exactly and so they're really spent you know and so so that's why says growth at all costs business model I don't think he means like financial growth necessarily but growth actual reach each which is like what Starbucks did when starbucks was like we want to be on every corner actually want to on every corner and then they were like actually this was a bad idea and now we're gonna close like three years ago they close yeah they close the whole bunch of em and so now you don't have to stand on a corner in downtown New York and c3 Starbucks's from where you're standing late in June enmeshed in that movie Best in Show and she's like um I met my husband in this starbucks and he was in the starbucks across the street oh wait prophecy and he wasn't an i ordered a double tall monkey on so anyway so I mean that's like it's true yeah so I think that what he's saying is is that how dare Netflix just continue to go out into the wild like trying to get market share when their market your home is really bad I really think it's just cuz their tails between their legs and they want to go abroad and have people be nice to them yeah except they it's not like they can't hear what's happening over here they heard about quick sir no they know what you did yeah so I don't know Netflix listen to me who's listening to Michael Pachter his name yeah actor he might know what he's gonna be matched her but I would imagine it's packed her I don't know give us a call man yeah let us know factor how to pronounce your name no I am now our final final oh okay so our final rumor is a little bit out of our comfort zone in that I don't completely understand it and it scares me and it's scary thing about this next topic freaks me out so put your adult diapers on so that you and pamphlets and dance off and a drink and show yourself up for this terrifying rumor which you probably have already heard which is that a video claiming to be made by anonymous the hacktivist group is claiming that it will attack facebook on january twenty odd their debate they made this claim though that they're gonna do this november seventh can go down well and they and anonymous came out on november seventh and said that was not us that was someone impersonating us for which they've said again this time i wonder if it's because they've failed and then they're like oh look at this is scary you know they're like oh that's is worthy of us it wasn't hate it the time has come and online war has begun between anonymous the people and the government is nice freak well so mean people out yeah I'm Congress this although he has very nice cheekbones and a little smirk for those underwear only oh my god it's that me that gives me goosebumps is so scary basically this was uploaded onto a YouTube channel that has had prior videos that were associated with anonymous on it but there's no guarantee that it is anonymous and as you know the group Anonymous is anonymous um but it's made up of hundreds or possibly thousands of people who work together to hack different groups that they decide upon they like hacked some banks and stole some money to give to charity over Christmas and then those charities were like please don't give us that money because then we'll have to give it back and pay a fine so please don't do that but you've all heard about anonymous last week they went on a semi hacking rampage it was the largest attack they said ever on the internet in one day and they took down justice gov a bunch of government websites FBI gov they took down CBS com a pair over the weekend and and that was all in the name of retaliation against the FBI's arrests or issuing warrants and arrests for the mega people who run megaupload which was a which is a site where you can load content in stream con they take all those sites down or they just like takes I think they did take them down to you yeah but so they're very mad anonymous is very mad about that because they believe in freedom on the internet and they're very mad about soap on people rightfully I mean those and and those bills have now been postponed which generally when that happens in Congress that means they're dead well that's not allowed to say they're dead yet because they're not or not done yet but beat master in the chatroom said it was the perfect setup to get the comp to get Congress to back to SOPA PIPA so yeah you know it happened right at the right time it did I mean and I mean I don't think there's any denying that anonymous so their attacks pretty much helped because when the representatives in the house were giving their reasons for why they had postponed SOPA they said due to recent events which I was I mean recent protests and there were there were some physical protests on the street and people signed a lot of petitions I signed a petition you guys all signed it but also anonymous ducked down a bunch of government websites and it got a huge amount of rest well and also Wikipedia blacked out panting legal blacked out the bad day yeah or the black yard yeah and then you could link to information about it yeah so big a very big deal but so now anonymous this video saying that it will attack Facebook and if we continue watching the video what it says is though Facebook has 60,000 at least 60,000 servers it can still be taken down which i think is kind of ridiculous a little I mean I because Facebook has enough servers to allow millions of people to linger on its site at once right and so what the way that anonymous have this is the part where I don't completely understand this but the way that anonymous had been attacking people is by overwhelming their servers with DDoS attacks which is like basically the equivalent of smothering a website server so that it can't it's not like they hacked into their password got the code and uploaded something from this it's just like they overwhelmed the site so that it couldn't load and so you can't really do that to Facebook because Facebook is prepared for millions of people to be on it whereas justice gov is not right because how many millions of people are lingering on that site yeah checking there why would anyone yeah there's no farmville on justice just getting like update update is something interesting update um so any other reason why it doesn't seem that likely that they would attack Facebook is that Facebook is against SOPA they came out a little Mark Zuckerberg came out a little late against it but he came out the day that everyone was protesting the Wikipedia blackout in the Google blacked out he came out saying he's completely not in support of it and it had nothing to do with megaupload so I don't really understand but maybe it's because Facebook and I think this is like the problem with that people have with Facebook anyway is that it's like has all your information and it's trying to sell you stuff constantly and it's like ads ads ads ads ads yeah I mean it so it's not necessarily a sober related thing but it's like how Facebook is taking over your I mean and maybe they're just mad about there are a million reasons to hate Facebook shall we enumerate them they track you across the web they sell your information they sell what you do across the web to stores so that they can tell you what you like they tell people what kind of cat videos you watch and how long you watch them when they change their settings so often that when you think you have set yourself to private you suddenly have it because it defaults back and you have to be constantly checking it every time they do a reason they also rolled out timeline which everybody hates and it's about everyone's about to be forced to take it even if you haven't upgraded to it I like it I like it other than the fact that I find it incredibly slow and I want to do a poll to see if it's if it's slow for other people I can't find any buddies post on there I go and like try to look for something someone posted I can't find it well i know and i think there's nothing weird about its design because it it it asks you to use both sides of the screen like both there's posts on this side and then there's that little tiny thin line and then there's posts on the other side but that is where you're used to seeing ads so my eye has like a blind you'll get really used to it though like cuz i have timeline like i signed up as a developer got timeline back when they announced it and by and it's not slow for you because this is my problem is it like when I scroll down and then it's like show more posts for 2011 it's like loading loading and then if I go to update my status from within my timeline rather than from within the main page of facebook it's so slow that like my cursor flashes and it's behind my typing huh it's like over it's not on its on both of my computers that's interesting yeah but then I just talked to Bridget Carey about it or I asked her boss talked about in Bridget said she hasn't seen that so I don't know i don't know maybe have to maybe we have to shift refresh shooters in the world um but so i have a source who may or may not be a hacker who may or may not sometimes work with anonymous who our own anonymous our own anonymous source and I ran this rumor by this person oh yeah we need to drink for our own anonymous source cheese I know we still tried to get this person to go on the record and they were like absolutely not who do you think I am um but I ran this anonymous rumor by them to see if Facebook is going to be attacked because I would be so sad and this person did not believe that that was like part of anonymous's plan this person hangs out on the anonymous's forums you know which is where they all make their decisions I guess um but he this person did send me some links that were like clues to what anonymous was maybe going to attack next and I don't understand them at all haha paste man this was like like a string of code about what if you need to attack you would need to like put into your computer bulb la to attack justice gov or usa.gov and I don't understand yes it I mean it's a lot I think it is and I like I even got flak on Twitter because the other day when they took down FBI gov I was like snap fbi.gov got penetrated by anonymous and then my Twitter followers were like they didn't penetrate anything they smothered it and were so angry they'd used the wrong nomenclature but i don't i'm not a hell right i didn't understand why would little Emily know she doesn't know what the words mean Oh says them like the I have two experiences with hacking once when I guess my mom's password to get into her amazon account to see what she was getting me for Christmas which is like hard NASA hardly aha it was just a guest name and then too I saw the movie hackers with Angelina oh I see everyone thought it was so good and I have two bits of information about this one is that yesterday when i was in safeway at the grocery store i saw that angelina is pregnant again what you just hacked and then to in that movie what I learned about hacking is that all you have to do to hack is be super hot and be a really fast typist it's true that was that movie hackers that's all it was was hot people typing and now I am a very fast typist wait comment on that you have to say things like triangulate the whatever see that's what I don't know so what I need is someone if you want me to be a hacker if I'm ever in a situation where I'm called wanda like hack a bank or whatever someone's dying someone's going to die unless i am able to hack some dead they should call you busy refers I'm a fast typist but what I then need is an ear piece with a hacking genius Cyrano de Bergerac who can give me all the things on Swiss dis we get the girl from the Dragon Tattoo to whisper politely in your ear all the code maybe we should just get the girl with the dragon tattoo period yeah totally be awesome alright so we are running out of time okay and we're gonna ask oh well should we just ask who it anon this is gonna tack next during the betting round yes or will it will an attack Facebook and who do we think it will attack next let's not bet on who we think at all but oh well then let's just ask that right now before we knew it we think anonymous will attack next please tweet us yeah send us a note send us an email and maybe we will read it on the next room absolutely and do you have an idea do you think that they will attack someone next um I don't know I kind of like the idea of them attacking facebook that's because you abandoned facebook to use Twitter both of you i know i hate i hate facebook now um let's move on to the bedding all right okay ready do we have oh yeah right alright so Emily do you think a CEO will get a quad core phone yes yes I say no is the next iPad going to have a Retina display yes I say yes is Instagram going to come to windows before it comes to android yes I say yes um let's make it interesting I say no his netflix gonna shoot itself in the foot and have a really bad 2012 because it's going into the European and abroad I think it's gonna have a bad 2012 yes um I say yes to will a not anonymous attack Facebook next no I say no but I want them to I just got that and that is one quiz way to get your your account deleting yeah no but this is actually how anonymous gets their orders it's actually through Carini I'm like Julie is like Facebook next boys through it or girls all right should we play our voicemails do we have time for smells I got a minute we can do this okay we've got two voicemails over the last couple weeks and the first one comes to us from kale from South Carolina who says he knows how to make a chrome OS tablet hey guys this is kale from South Carolina I wish I just want to say that I'm a huge name in the chef in a secret for your you guys are so hilarious ah love Jesus because it's my little name is from Jim 13 you're talking about the Chrome OS tablet I have a quick three set guide on how to make a chrome tablet and it works with any Android or iOS Pavel even benign intern dollar HP TouchPad so first number one get a tablet with internet browser wants every single brother step 3 never close in a network there you go romola that's a Chromebook similar to the Cremona thanks guys absolutely love the show hi no also nice thank you doing all right let's play let's play this next one okay the mall gasps next one set it up so remember how we said we were going to have is this the analyst one yeah remember we said we were going to have analysts corner that's because we are best friends with all the analysts so much so in fact that they call us on the phone yeah so as you know I called analyst Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray who likes to talk about apple a tall drink of water because he's super handsome he is super handsome and he's super knowledgeable and then he called us hi this is gene munster calling from piper jaffray calling for crane and emily i understand i was invited to call you for personal reasons I've been trying to call numerous times and I use the number i was given there's no way to afford a message see or talk to you personally I must say don't like to be teased and that would have talked to you if I could have unfortunately the number i have is a voicemail and that your personal number this is it goodbye said we had said piper jean monsters a tall drink of water caller we didn't even say that no no we did we went call us just like that oh maybe we did look I thought we rolled back the tape and it turned out that we never said that anyway so we called this guy back yeah so we were like is that possibly actually Jean monetary so Molly's manada do you want to be on the show so we called him back exactly and we got a church so and she had no idea she I know the lady had no idea who Gene Munster was unfortunately because he's so amped and I can we talk to gene gene munster and the woman was like you've reached the first map like Baptist Church of Iowa yeah so monsters not here don't mess with us gene munster because we have yeah we have caller ID yeah man we broke our 69 um so don't play with our emotions don't exactly you stop teasing us 16 miles of people in the jet in the in the chat room or ask gene monsters religious I mean what we really think is it that that was not gene Watson yeah we got a prank call from address Frankel and we thought gene munster loved us but really gene munster does not watch her has it much to my chagrin and much much too much yeah exactly my big surprise gene munster does not watch the show as he should because I all we do is throw him compliments left and right yeah and also I mean I think he could get some good advice from us we're like this is how we think the iPads gonna go this is what we think yeah gene munster generally were citing him yeah so I think I think we really should work on or some i think it was Sparkman somebody in the chat room said that we should to analyst hot or not i think that's a good way for us to get fire we should do an analyst corner definitely are maybe we can like add like a little subhead about whether they're attractive or not and we are gonna track whether or not they get it right and we're gonna revisit them what they're saying and we're gonna have to know them a little bit so we're gonna work on because we have these two analyst that we talk about all the time Michael Pachter and gene munster yeah so maybe the others fight between them are there others there are definite spike says it was me I don't know spice cake was it will have to do some voice recognition software call us and then we'll compare alright guys thank you so much for watching work overtime crave is coming up next I'm sure they're like banging on the door we will see you next week bye and have a great week see you next week bye you