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Rumor Has It Ep. 22: Is Google jealous of Siri?

2012-02-28
is the iPad 3 already enroute to Apple stores for the announcement on March 7th is Samsung resting on its laurels for the Galaxy s3 is Google copying Siri and speaking of Google did it file a patent to make a computer trackpad it's more like a phone's touchscreen all that yeas and nays and more today on rumor has it it's Tuesday February 28 2012 and welcome to rumor house and everyone I'm Emily Dreyfus and I'm Korean Levy and welcome to the Internet's most awesome greatest of all time game show who on earth ever yes and this is rumor has it where we round up the week's hottest rumors and then we discuss them forever and ever and ever and talk about them and love them and cradle them in our arms and decide which one sound true and which one sound like utter funk and then we bet on them and then at the end of the month the loser has to do something embarrassing and this month it might be me because if we check the leaderboard over here rumor has it scoreboard we went back and found yep is actually beating me by one point and that is because ladies and gentlemen if you have been brushing your teeth for the past half an hour or checking your email or in a meeting or dropping your children off from school you may have missed that Apple send out invites to the iPad 3 event so what that means is the iPad 3 is confirmed it is coming out on March 7th it may not be called the iPad 3 do we know that 4 do we know what's coming out on March 7th they just gonna know they're gonna announce it on March 7th but Apple isn't 8 we'll make it available yeah they make it available piratical and in fact they have not called it the iPad 3 I want to bring that back it could be the iPad 2's still folks great but it is definitely an iPad iPad and it's a new iPad that's gonna be released they sent out invites to an unveiling announcement that will be in San Francisco right down the street from us so I will be missing from work that day and crowding the offices of the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts to try to get in because I clearly didn't get an invite only Josh Lowen sin did and it says on this invite we have something you really have to see and touch and it shows an image of a finger marking Wednesday March 7th on the calendar on the screen of a new iPad and so there are two things to notice about this image first of all if that's the bottom of the iPad where's the home button maybe they're doing away with the home button which is crazy because that button kind of does a lot of stuff um and then second it says we have something you really have to see and touch and as we've been talking about on the show for a really long time the the most expected and exciting and lauded new feature coming on the iPad 3 is the idea that it's going to have the Retina display which is the super dense beautiful gorgeous HD display that the iPad has I mean that the iPhone has but made bigger for the iPad 3 which means that them everyone was the I've had one on the iPad 2 will be really sad because the iPad 3 will have amazing better graphics so I feel as though them saying they something you really have to see is sort of a hint that it might have said Retina display we so we voted on whether it would be happen on March 7th and so I voted yes and you said no which is where the point comes in now we also voted on whether would have a Retina display and I said no and you said yes so that's gonna happen that's for next month so it'll just depend on what actually transpired like that so that won't be in time for the humiliation day next week because the event is happening again to embarrass me in the 7th maybe that could be the humiliation is Emily trying to get into the Apple event so we will so we that means we'll have to push back our humiliation day a week which would be worth it for Emily to try to get into the event yes now um since that wasn't a rumor that's just news that we wanted to give you off the top because it's very exciting and obviously we've been talking about the iPad 3 for a really long time we're gonna get into our rumors in one second but before that we have a very special moment yes our very special steven has a message yes I would like to take this time to address our new YouTube fans we've recently began syndicating to YouTube and rumor has it is there now you can go watch all of our seen that podcast shows but before we before I address them I just I just want to be the first to make the comment you know how they do a first second third to do pre-emptive comment on our video before anyone else gets a chance to so first of all I'd like to say you're stupid yeah I believe I think you're dumb I hate your dumb face and I'm hitting the dislike button on you and I think you're lame so thank you for comment anybody who else who says anything like that is copying they're gonna have to work a little bit harder to insult how we look how we speak and everything about us why we were born right and I feel like we should do that very special welcome every week just as a reminder to our new YouTube fans we're watching your women and you should get back in the kitchen oh right that is another big one that will you keep getting and stop cackling like hens yeah so I will try to stop cackling like a hen while I cook breakfast so thank you YouTube for you thank you thank you for taking a moment out of your life so so should we get to the rumors yeah so the stuff is super exciting I'm really excited that it's finally happening that we don't have to ever talk about it anymore after next we and Steven do you have an iPad already no I'm gonna come waiting for them Wow somebody grocery list oh maybe we can all look at that one and then you have a one yeah maybe it's time to go green the one I have to see one will get a three and then we'll be like a little traveling iPad fan yeah we can oh yeah totally you like play first of all problem my case isn't big enough for my iPad all right so our first rumor is not about anything Apple related finally for once it is about the galaxy s3 and that details of this phone have leaked online so information obtained by boy Gina support boy genius report ggr tells us that Samsung plans to launch the device across more than 50 markets or cities simultaneously which is good news for those hoping to see the US models arrive at or near the same time as its international counterpart which doesn't always happen sometimes they release it in Europe first and then everybody here is sad and then buy the thing that comes out they're done with it because they don't wanna be number one we never want to be number one so the galaxy s3 will run Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich of course and it'll have Samsung's TouchWiz UI and it will boast a massive 4.8 inch full HD display which is great no it's it's so edge to edge e more specifically the screen will be 1080p HD and will offer 16.9 16 to 9 aspect ratio which is would be perfect to connect your TV and totally and to watch movies and that is unheard of as of now no no phone until now has had the 16 to 9 aspect ratio so that's crazy and we were just getting used to the 720p HD screens and then they're gonna blow our minds with 1080p if I got this 1080p phone it would be better than my TV yeah my TV in 720 yeah so is mine totally like everybody gather round by four and point eight inch screen better it'll run a 1.5 quad gigahertz quad-core Samsung Exynos processor it'll have an 8 megapixel real rear camera 2 megapixel front-facing camera 4G LTE connectivity and rounding out the details or my favorite detail is that it'll come in a ceramic case which seems so weird is that a thing and then you know which is different from Samsung which usually goes with plastic cases which are you know the chassis my all-time so I don't know what a ceramic case it sounds like that would be even more breakable more laughable yeah but you know know there are some like hardcore intense really strong ceramics out there so maybe yeah I mean maybe that's a thing and maybe it's lighter than metal and maybe I don't know what that thing's better gets less hot or something totally so I mean clearly there's a reason for them to do that so in an earlier show in this show that we have no idea what happened in it because we were exhausted at las velas Vegas at the CES show we reported that the device might be released at Mobile World Congress and it hasn't yet it's not it's officially delayed it's not coming in my rule so it's not so that so I don't know how we voted because that that show is like stays in Vegas including that show so now the new reports are saying that it will come out sometime in May so in this story Scott Webster the person who wrote the story points out that when this phone comes out it'll be the most popular Android smartphone out there most likely because just last week Samsung announced that the galaxy 2 sold 20 million units in only 10 months and its sales are just increasing they're not even slowing down they're just ramping up and so they're doing so well with the s2 their Wonder Apple is suing them well that's oh my god totally they're ripping off yet one more thing from Apple letting people get all crazy and anticipation acting about crazy hush-hush about their device that's all rumored and whatever well in the meantime current generation product is like flying off the shelves yeah and people can't get there that's why not delete it because we were so disappointed it wasn't gonna come at Mobile World Congress and now mobile or Congress is going on right now and like nothing that exciting hate to say this has been released and this would have been the star of the show but maybe the reason they didn't release it is cuz they like Apple don't want to release it at someone else's event exactly there buddy else that's exactly right and so their current generation phone is doing so well why like burn yeah you know bridge whenever you send out an awesome tweet and it starts to get retweeted and then you tweet again don't tweet while your initial tweet is doing so well just let it ride so listen Samsung way to go that's how you do it you just sit around and let the rumor mill just like keep on swirling around you and then in May or June or whenever you want it to just let it go let this thing launch it can have anything by then it can have ceramic everything it could be 1080p whatever it could have poor battery life nobody cares it could do it you know it could be the worst phone but nobody will care they'll be so happy that you've finally finally released it and the world is going to eat it up because it's a successor to an already amazing product and I think that's what they're that's what they're banking on we're gonna I think we should vote on it right now I think well it's fresh and already so we'll the Samsung Galaxy s3 come out in May with all of these specs remember the ceramic whatever the 1080p well we have to vote on the ceramic will come out in May yeah I say no I'm gonna make it a game I say no that this won't happen oh it won't come out in May would be really weird for to be ceramic I already think that I may be wrong yeah so so we'll see so we'll see what happens I mean even if it comes out in May but doesn't have all these specs I'm I lost you give me a half point or yeah or one of us lost you got a half we're gonna start going to have is because this board is like out of control no rumors remember how we thought that we would never have any because nothing would ever come true to be so long tail and now we have eight points yeah and we don't even know where half of those points came from no somewhere we have some people on it don't you don't worry we have the name of Venus the CNET fisherman yeah okay well so shall we take a short break and when we come back we'll talk about two interesting patent rumors from Google that are either copying everyone or on the cutting edge of innovation you decide students can register for the lottery starting tomorrow and registration is open until Friday the UAA will notify the winners of the lottery by Monday December 15th and vouchers can then be picked up from Tuesday through Thursday now students with more than 90 credit hours have the best chance of getting tickets but everyone is welcome to sign up live from the newsroom Cara Minelli w UFT news thanks Cara you and we're ban we're back that little video is so fun it's so embarrassing you know that that I mean that can happen to me any moment people sometimes people walk by the podcast room and they don't realize that we can't see them and they're like right and really animated gif of Homer Simpson going into the bush that a minute but okay so now back from our break our first rumor about Google patents today comes from the source patently Apple which is generally only concerned with Apple patents but I think watches that compels competitors to see what they're doing and if they're stealing and if Apple should be stealing it back so patently Apple reports that Google has filed a patent for a Siri like voice control for its Google TV uh that and and uh sorry one other part of it is not just that it would be for Google TV itself but it actually pulls in integration with Android devices like phones and tablets so that you can interact with your Android device with your voice and have it program your Google TV that's what this supposed patent is about now I want to mention one caveat up off the top of this that I find very strange and that is that patently Apple in their report they give images that look very legitimate they give details that look very legitimate and the figures all look right but they do not link to the actual patent filed by Google which it is supposedly and it should be a public patent and in the next rumor that Kareem is gonna talk about you'll see that in that one we get to look at the patent now this morning I tried searching the US Patent website for this patent itself but it was incredibly difficult and wanted me to do boolean logic to get to it and I had to come to work I was doing it on my phone on the bus so it didn't quite work but I urge any of you guys who really want to be sleuths to go and see if we can find this actual patent because it's a little bit odd that they didn't link to it and then all of these other sources have been reporting on patently Apple's report without the sort right and that does not look like patent I mean usually it's like big one stick figure doing this thing well and we can compare it to the patent that you're about to talk about that has real art in it rent see and actually links to the patent actually links to the patent so I'm a little bit skeptical of this that doesn't mean it's not true lots of other publications are not taking it with a grain of salt they're taking it like yes this is a patent that's been filed and I think it does a little bit odd that they didn't then go out and find a patent anyway is what it what it suggests is that merely six days after Apple announced iCloud so this was last September at Google so what was the exact date September 29th 2011 is when they say that this patent was filed Google filed to have a voice-controlled user interface that is on its Google TV which is sometimes built-in it's not something like I would have a logitech TVs but it's generally a set-top box and that would allow you to control that using your voice not using motion control which is one of the suggestions that Siri the the one that would be on the Apple TV that people are that is rumored to exist and it will be rumored to have serial control would be not just voice but also gesture so that you could say turn on or like you could say when a Seinfeld on and then go like this or something to go down to the next one this doesn't include that at all it's just voice but it's pretty cool and it's pretty cool that you can do it with your device because if you think about the fact that your TV might be in a different part of your house we've got your your smartphone in your pocket you might want to say to your phone oh hey can you turn on the Academy Awards right and start recording exactly or you can do it as you walk into the house you can say you know start recording this or turn this on or turn the TV on or turn it off yeah like if your TV is across the room and you're cooking you can say to your phone hey can you change the channel on my shows coming on and can you turn up the volume and can you record it right and I mean that's actually really rad I have no idea if it'll work people don't have Google TV my friend Liz actually has Google TV and she's written me and said you need to stop bad-mouthing Google TV because I have it I love it and good for you Liz you're keeping them the business I'm really happy about it you know somebody was selling one at the office the other day and Emily and I looked at each other we're like nope for free but this would be pretty cool now this to me seems like even though as I said I'm a little bit confused about why we don't get to see the actual patent it does seem like this is the direction that all TV manufacturers are going in and people who have TV os's and um ways you can interact with the TV and as we saw in Vegas at CES LG and Samsung have already announced TVs that have this built in to their systems and the Apple TV that everyone's super excited about I mean the main reason they're excited about it is because of this reason because it's the remote control that Steve Jobs wanted to murder right this does away with that what I kind of like about this better than the Siri dare I say it what I like about this you know patent filing or whatever better than what Siri is doing a series like making you in the rumored I really yeah yell at your TV and so you're like turn on turn on Seinfeld or whatever and then and in this you're yelling into your device yeah but what if it if this were to surpass the Siri implementation in the ITV what I like about what I would like about it is like right now like with the Kinect or whatever when you talk or with the Xbox you have to say like being searched you have to like use very static commands and with Siri or was something like this that would be interesting if you just said turn on whatever and that's what this Pat this patent suggests the it one of the images shows them saying what time is Seinfeld on and then it lists Seinfeld is on Fox at 7:00 dadada do you want to watch and so it understands regular English like every good robot should right uh-huh I mean please don't make me use stock questions because I don't remember how to do merely remember like the stock things I do mean I I have a voice-controlled GPS that's built into my car and there are certain things I have to say to it and what's wonderful about it is that like it's like my secret language with my car I'm all go home and then it can take me home but I can't say please take me home and then it's like do you want to display but yeah I mean I actually think that it's probably likely that when the ITV does come out if it does later in the year which I'm sure we're gonna talk about forever that it will include some sort of iOS fully baked implementation where you could talk to your iPhone and and and your iPad and do it that way I mean and and that'll that stands to see if the iPad 3 will have Siri which we're not sure but the iPad 4s currently has Syria so you could use that perhaps but yeah the thing that's interesting about this is that the filing was so early that it was September 29th of last year before we were even talking about Apple TV really I mean Jean monster was talking about it but we weren't and so the suggestion is since they've been working on it and they already have Google TV that exists they're not having to build an actual television from scratch at Google headquarters that perhaps they beat Apple to the punch with this voice controlled stuff that actually to me doesn't seem that exciting because LG and Samsung already did that so who cares but that is the rumor love it I love it I love yelling into my phone so now let me say we'll let us bet on it are we going will Google TV get voice control to make you shout into your phone to your phone yeah will Google TV get mobile voice control for its TV yes what do you think um yeah I think yes I think it's inevitable if it doesn't happen we'll both be like that we were wrong have you girls ever used Google the voice search on Google like where you just speak into Google and I'll search something for no but it's pretty x yeah it's really works really good I think it works a lot better than Siri actually so yeah oh that is cool well then they're already on their way to making it awesome kaboom blam hmm alright so now that we're on a Google a Google kick let us continue with Google Google has replaced Apple today in the in no that happens spill the beans yeah we have nothing to talk about yeah we can talk about Google all day long so here's another Google patent and the thing with patents is that it seems like companies just like Willy's Patent file patents for everything that they think is gonna be big or not big or whatever just to cover themselves so who knows you can never tell with patent filings but here is a Google patent that hints at a mobile and desktop convergence which makes me say duh why wouldn't they do that of course so patently Apple found a patent filing titled mapping trackpad operations to touchscreen events and it describes a system for turning something like a trackpad on a computer or a notebook computer into an analog for the touchscreen used in conjunction with touch based applications essentially putting Android on to a desktop computer the patent application reads something boring it's like blah blah touchscreen device allow a user to provide direct interaction with a computing device so basically it means that if you it's basically like the Magic Trackpad like that Apple is already been using has been using you know if you use like four fingers you to the side it goes to your next open window or whatever whatever so it were this patent refers to capabilities that will allow the trackpad operations to be mapped to the touchscreen allowing even computers that don't have touch capabilities to run Android and apps designed for it so Android OS for a computer and maybe that's what the rumored jellybean OS is all about it shows that this patent what it shows is that Google is really seriously eyeing the desktop realm and the market and they're trying to make their own version of the Magic Trackpad that Apple already is using and basically again just goes back to the fact that everything is becoming more increasingly influenced by mobile because people are computing on their smartphones and on their tablets and not just on the computer and all of that is sort of merging into one thing and so Google has to do that and as we're gonna see tomorrow we're there's a big announcement coming tomorrow morning you guys should stay tuned for don't don't stay in front of your computers the entire time but tune back in tomorrow morning for this big Microsoft announcement where we're gonna get to see most likely Windows 8 they've announced that that's happening oh but then we should have won a point for that because that was we said that that was coming out in February oh well we're gonna we're gonna wait what happens well yeah I mean what will see the they're gonna talk about it at least and we feel as CNET feels that Windows 8 is gonna be much more focused on mobile it's for tablets it's it's also for computers but it brings everything sort of together and I think I was at a panel discussion the other day listening to some app young app developers talking about how everyone sort of who's making new products and new software believes that mobile and the distinction between desktop and mobile is gonna be gone really soon so I think that this might this this patent just really drives with Google trying to say trying to make a way for its mobile products to work on its desktop right well patently Apple speculated in their report of this that Intel could expand its support for Android beyond smartphones to power ultra Brooks with its new chip called the Haswell chip and it's designed to create a harmony between notebooks and tablets and by 2013 so the Haswell chip it promises to support multiple operating system functionality which is also what jellybean was about where channel in which you can sorry somebody put a coin in my jukebox requesting that I speak in milady jellybean the cool thing about jellybean was that you could boot up to your Android OS or from your Windows OS without you've gone and over it without a reboot without rebooting sorry so anyway this is could also be coupled with another story that I found which was cool which was another Google patent which you could just let's say draw I don't know how this would work exactly but like let's say you're already on Google on your phone if you draw the letter S on it it would just start searching so you basically never to leave your fingers from the touchscreen that is blowing my mind so sorry no but actually that really is blowing my mind that's pretty awesome okay is the Android OS coming to computers yes this reminds me of like the Palm Pilot when you had to like draw a certain weird little shapes and stuff to get different letters yeah yeah totally so I mean it's an interesting house was talking about that the other day sorry about how he had to learn a secret language and like then he remembered it hits like relearn how to write because it couldn't learn his writings called like graffiti or yeah and it's like and and it's so weird and it was hard it was interesting so I mean obviously that was the Palm Pilot that needed that functionality was like from 10 years ago so clearly they probably will not do it that way but like it'd be interesting to just draw a G and Google comes up or whatever that would be cool and then you continue so you're just constantly doing this on your phone person having to see well and then what's funny is that we're like oh I don't know I don't like talking to my phone like hello Siri but instead I would just want to do this all day yeah and no matter what you look like it's really like doing this and whispering and so really you look like a lunatic so alright shall we get to our layout of the main section yes please yay or nay harpsichord music alright I will read them okay and alright I'll be the Oh the secretary yes fantabulous will Apple pull Siri rival the evil Evie from the App Store yes of course they will yay I also say hey Oh oops you're the writer yeah sorry Oh Microsoft and Apple teaming up to destroy Android absolutely no I didn't read that story I chose just to do it based upon entirely the headline and it that makes no sense I love it Apple and Microsoft they're mortal enemies I'm saying yay okay good rumors are circulating that Samsung is planning a smartphone with an edge to edge screen dubbed the Samsung Galaxy B may I say yay yay and here's the most boring one of all and I sort of asked an Apple employee this yesterday and he laughed at me but I can't tell you if that is a good thing or a bad thing Oh iOS dock ports going to get smaller hey I say and here the most important question of all is that smaller iPad going to happen or what are yay or nay ordinace brought to you by mister ed okay so I think that was that's basically our show yes so now we we listen to our voice mails and I really like this new format I think we're really tightening it up and it was a lot tighter I like voting it'll help that Apple totally obliterated aren't my first rumours off the top we just have a much shorter show way ahead of the game let's listen to some voicemails from Cale from Greenville calls in just this kid he's so nice and funny hey guys this is Cale from Greenville South Carolina and I just wanted to say how much I absolutely loved the show I look forward to every Tuesday just so I can listen to you guys make jokes about all the rumors and stuff and Emily you are very good with kale that's the best is that if this is the same kid he has his own little rumor show I have tube I think it's kale the geek it's not the same guy check it out on YouTube take one break from yelling at him to go into the kitchen yeah I turn on this video and then I saw that it was women so so what are you doing out of the kitchen and yeah on YouTube and then they're all first what else do we have any more voicemails okay look at the home were hiding in a bush it's Samsung needs to do Apple won't make me laugh for 10 minutes straight I know you were having a bad day in this fix everything it was like I feel like leaving work today it's really wonderful thank you so happy I want to go do it later I'm going to escape and everybody is like where did she go and you're they're probably raccoons in there be careful Homer it's blue you would have they would have just blended into the wall oh my god okay the show today ladies and next week will be the day before the iPad 3 event so we will have a lot of final speculation about what the features will be which will I mean it's gonna be the last chance to bet and vote and then after that I will most likely have lost and so then we'll do a great humiliation day the next that will film the next day and show the next week so don't miss either of those shows guys and I hope you have a wonderful day and thank you so much Jane thank you thank you YouTube
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