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we'll lenovo be the first to launch a Windows 8 tablet in October speaking of October is that when we're going to see windows 8 at all is mog off the auction block and into the arms of HTC and beets and our gamers going to be able to change the ending of mass effect 3 all that and more on today's rumor has it brianna now it's Tuesday March twentieth 2012 and welcome to rumor has it I'm Kareem levy and I'm Emily Dreyfuss and you are watching the Internet's techie astounding show where every day or every week we round up the hottest rumors and then we bet on them gameshow style that was that that's it that's all we know you're watching so speaking of let's cut to the rumor has it game board real fast you'll see that emily is oh yeah I have seven points you can't see it a try to look at ease I don't I do a seven like my parents taught me no no me that's how I do it oh good that the European Way um so the reason why I got another point is because but I'm still losing mind you don't get too worked up is way back in episode three a hundred years ago we voted on whether the Xbox would be announced at e3 and uh just the other day just recently we had a story that microsoft said don't expect a new Xbox anytime soon they will not be announcing it at e3 and that was the episode where Sharon Vaknin filled in for Emily so and she voted that it will be announced at e3 and I said no and the moral of that story is neither of us can ever go on vacation ever again because whoever replaces I was literally in Chile and I like I got a cold shiver in the in the Andes because I like knew that something had gone terribly wrong well I'm so cold and I mean I guess that honestly like I really should have done a little bit of due diligence and informed Sharon that I had already voted in a previous episode that we were not going to see the Xbox until 2014 and then we voted there was another rumor and she contradicted my earlier but I don't even remember that 2014 was that yeah that was like um episode 1 which we have like I have not we never kept when we first started the show we like wrote it down on post-it notes barely any idea what happened in the beginning so I for a while I felt like should I even have to take this lost point because I didn't bet it and my real heart said the other way but know that those are the rules of game I had a substitute the substitute failed me yeah I mean I don't know why she did what she did fail you but I don't think it was uh I don't think it was a bad though because why not there's not anything can any other thing is that Sharon maybe you'll be right maybe we'll be proved wrong and maybe Microsoft's definition of soon is not what we think and we will see it before well they said III yeah well that they're not gonna release today okay mine sorry I mean no I but I mean to her credit Sharon is a gamer she plays video games and you know so maybe you know maybe she was bringing her own personal bias to it because since I don't care about video games i'm like yeah 2014 whatever yeah more affect my life at all really well and then in a later episode i voted that it's going to come out in 2013 I mean with this xbox rumor it was like the iPad rumor or the Kindle Fire rumor weed in the samsung s3 the whatever the Nexus that one that we keep voting on every galaxy s3 yeah that whatever yeah we were like vote yes no we don't know why don't we look don't know it'll have that and so now we've just like put the kibosh yeah the kibosh on any possibility to get any votes yeah because we've already voted on everything having to do with that phone I don't want to talk about it and we're not going to so we probably will one day ok so let us let us continue please yes proceed um the first rumour guys that I have for you I have two windows 8 related rumors today give a round of applause Microsoft it's not oh so the first rumor is that Lenovo not Dell will launch the first Windows 8 tablet in October a report says so citing unidentified sources you guessed it usual I just had to drink sorry about that pause I was taking syd because this is a drinking game if you've forgotten and any time we say unidentified sources you need to be imbibing whatever liquid is nearby that is potable uh-huh so citing unidentified sources the verge reported yesterday that Lenovo will be the first company to launch a Windows 8 tablet there unidentified sources that they don't even give us any inkling or even order from where they live probably one deja to who they could be the dude at the window at kentucky fried chicken who knows but according to that dude at kentucky fried chicken lenovo will get it but ahead of dell and ahead of HP who have both also gone on the record and said that they're going to have windows 8 tablets for sure now this the the guy at Kentucky Fried Chicken i'm using quote marks here Colonel Sanders Colonel Sanders also told The Verge that the device will come with an intel chip which makes a lot of sense and so this contradicts what the dell CEO michael dell oh um went as far as to tell Bloomberg which was that his company was going to launch a windows tablet the same day as Windows 8 she'll be there their launch pad there does a call they're like main the thing the word for when flagship flashing launch pad landing in my yeah that'll be their flag mean not as how they'll announce the windows 8 will be with with with a dell with a dolt who is what Del was saying but then this is saying that actually lenovo will be the first one so i don't know if perhaps maybe the lenovo tablet will come out a little bit sooner and then on the day that Windows 8 is available will get the dell I'm not sure or maybe they don't know or maybe they're fighting or maybe this report is wrong or I'm not sure but there's speculation that if this report is correct and Lenovo is going to be the one with the first Windows 8 tablet people have speculated that this could be the ideapad yeah do you guys remember that from firstly yes yeah the worst name ever they might as well called it the pretzel the downward facing dog the warrior 1 hate yoga I just take yoga class the other day yeah do it it Stephen can you name any other moves um duh sunshine pose that's that's I think that's one yeah greeting pose right yeah greeting and child's pose a child's pose I know yeah one's pretty really I like Pilates yoga is just too woo woo for me sorry I know it's really good for you I just can't okay I mean it doesn't have to be whoo whoo but I know maybe my experience with it has been very whoo-whoo and I'm just I can't anyway so this thing called the ideapad yoga and the reason why it has this insufferable title is that it's actually kind of a neat concept and it is sort of exemplified by yoga which is all about bending and stretching there it is right there you can see if you're listening to the podcast right and you can see we're looking at it's basically like a pc that is open halfway and propped up on its on both sides so it's forming almost like a V or an a-line a frame a frame rate um and what it has its own eat is a hinge that allows the screen to fold all the way back on itself so that it can be used at in tablet mode they call it and that would be if it was flattened all the way completely and the keyboard and the screen are right up against each other you could hold it like it's a tablet or you can flip it all the way around and use it in normal laptop mode or you it's a great idea I mean it's a great idea you know then you don't need to buy a separate keyboard like like a bluetooth keyboard that people are doing for their tablets or whatever it's already there it's already there very convenient hin and I mean I would take issue with the people who are saying that this would be the first Windows 8 tablet because in my estimation that is a laptop that funk has the ability to be used like a tablet but it's not a tablet right because a tablet by definition does not have a key exactly just the screen examiner keyboards yes so this is a lap that has a tablet first screen and according to lenovo a really really high quality hinge that won't break because these type of convertible things are always a little bit problematic because the hinge if it breaks and you get your keyboard on a screen exactly and and often you know something that is a movable piece like that it's easy to break so the big problem the big question is how good is this hinge lenovo says it's great right well and also look I mean it looks heavy but it has to be light like yeah you know follow the movement of tablet it has to be light it has to be you know portable and whatever yeah and this this keyboard should not get in the way of all those other thing at all and and I mean obviously because of the keyboard it will be heavier than any other tablet right but it might be a good trade-off for people who are you know I mean honestly I might be one of the people who would want this because as a writer I constantly need a keyboard and I don't use my iPad at all for any work-related tasks and I would never take it with me like on a trip by myself just take the iPad because I need to write and I'm not gonna write on let's have you considered a bluetooth keyboard I have kind of pricey but like 60 well yeah and I already have a little tiny windows computer that if I'm gonna go that far yeah it's basically a netbook I might as well just use that so I I kind of but if I were to get my next computer and if this had a really strong processor and core i5 and things like that like I want it yeah um so that that's interesting we'll see now this brings us to our next rumor because this rumor drive all related very very well with the next rumor which is that windows 8 will reportedly be released in october so that is what this rumor we've been reading was saying was that the first windows 8 tablet will come out in october from lenovo now bloomberg is reporting that yes in fact windows 8 will have an october debut our news editor Jay Greene who has the Microsoft beat reported that this means it would be done in the summer they'd send it out to manufacturers in the summer and then they can get it onto their devices and do all of that and create for it and software and data which they've already been doing because developer previews have been out there and then we will get it in October and then they will have versions of it that are running on an ARM chip architecture and then also some that are running on x86 chips and that is I don't know why Bloomberg even really needed to say that because it's completely obvious because ARM chips are what go into tablets because they're lighter and faster and 86 x86 chips are what go into traditional PCs and we know Windows 8 is putting a huge emphasis on mobile and go every so obviously they're going to have tablets I guess what's interesting about this rumor that Bloomberg also is citing anonymous sources to bring us drink is that it will not have more than it will not launch on more than five arm system chip architecture devices and so what that basically means is there will not be more than five tablets said it will launch it will launch so if we you know we say this del uh-huh the lenovo HP HP and um nokia right no don't forget about Yankees force what would be the only the fin the iPad just get on the Apple apples like we want in on this game um and then people were saying Jay Greene wrote having fewer than five devices though would all for consumers only slight alternatives to apples hugely popular iPad and I disagree with Jay because I think it's better to focus on fewer and make them great there you go a hundred windows 8 tablets out there and have one of them be the my czar touch from it which is kind of what you know what what the Android exactly Android and now it's so fragmented that people are like now it's all about the price and we and I mean if there are fewer to competing with each other fewer Windows tablets compete at each other not to mention competing with Android not to mention competing with the iPad yeah then they can focus on price on how great it is they can each have a you know a little bit something different and people won't get confused and can be like i have the dell yeah Pete whatever and instead of sams on making 14 different tablets every single is tablet running windows 8 and make it great right and make it hit the price point that you want it to be a hit the you know screen size yeah battery life like and by having only one so each you know company is focusing on one rather than 14 then they can do all that and then people won't be as disappointed as they are with like every single Samsung and also I think it sends a good message to consumers like if you are HP and you only make one windows 8 tablet and it's great and you put a lot of work into it what that says to me is that you've committed to the choices you made about this tablet because you believe they're the right choices you believe the screen size is correct do you believe the resolution is awesome and all of that whereas when you give me 17 different ones I feel like it means you the manufacturer are wavering and you're like I don't really know exactly which one of these is gonna work best I'm just gonna like throw them all out there and hope that one of them strikes your fancy right and I don't feel like I'm in good hands right and I mean to you know to play devil's advocate they're probably saying look we listen to consumers we want to give you a seven inch a 5-inch a 10-inch a 20-inch yeah you know 14 and like just give them everything I totally Tennessee where do so it's competing with itself and I think it's also just poor planning because a tablet is an unnecessary object no matter how many times a polite commercials tell you that you're not going to be able to learn a new language or lion love liver if you don't have an iPad that's not true like you don't need an iPad ever you don't need a tablet I mean you it can be additive for your life and bring value but it is not necessary great it's not food no sleep for I feel like the tablet manufacturers who make like a million different options are saying like this one is gonna be we're gonna work for this one and this one will fit your needs in this way this wasn't this one I'll did it it uh but really you don't need any of them so it would be better is if they just said this is the one that is like one size fits all awesome for everyone right exactly it's running a great OS yeah it has a great battery life just you know just as we were saying like totally yeah I know that that's best for consumers but it's definitely best for manufacturers that's my advice I guess why am I on the side of the man in argument I don't know but under the one percent yeah I'm pretending to be the one present but I just think it's that was what I would advise lenovo HP no no yeah pour nokia they're like 10 windows 8 is ours oopsies if it's like they caught windows 8 kissing someone else behind the schoolyard totally and Windows 8 is like what we're not married yeah exactly I never gave you my promise ring nokia or something good anyway that's our windows 8 moment for today yeah I think with that we should take a break yeah I let's take a mini break and we'll see you on the other side oh my god and we're back thank you for rejoining us after that quick break for the people watching live that was the song what is love played on a floppy disk drive and that was like that you know and that damned knocking their heads from Saturn alive yeah but and then that movie the night yeah I refuse the rocks night at the Roxbury I'm all night One Night at the Apollo that's not right um so anyway let us continue with our rumors has it till we will because this is called rumor has it it's a game show oh it's not the show where we just watch her a new videos all the time I mean it could be that would be a completely different channel so for was a rumor the title of it is mog the music company mog is rumored to have been sold to HTC beats if you want to say that another way HTC beats has bought button no bot you got it as button ma no um and I mean to even be a little bit clearer beats according to this rumor has botton mog not HTC so cute like I know I love I'm a copy editor I say button that's already been button according to a single source that's what is rumors hilarious according to one guy dug up by business in wow Business Insider my favorite Wow in HTC's beats the audio tech company has purchased mog Giga ohm said it confirmed it by with maybe one other person said it but I don't believe them ever so mod didn't respond to requests for comment but told Business Insider we're always looking for the best opportunity for our business and shareholders but don't comment on specific of those specifics of those conversations nothing to confirm at this time so it is still a rumor as of tonight hm mog is a subscription-based music company kind of like Spotify or Rdio or Rhapsody or whatever the main difference between it and the other big guys is that it's not a big guy at all and it doesn't have as many subscribers as those other a subscription-based music companies do it doesn't have as many songs but it does have the highest quality to basically not as good a time right it is the highest quality at 320 kilobits per second which is really high quality audio the reason I know that is because one time i wrote a an article for Cena which is which music service should you use and i got 128 comments on it all saying that i should have added zune everybody was so me soon the big deal we get that weekend a lot of people emailing us on buzz out loud about zune pass yeah and it's a great you know and and I said fine you're right I should have included it so I included it anyway that's how I learned about mall you listened and responded I see the people I really wanted to make everybody happy I today so this follows rumors from a couple weeks ago that the service was on the auction block so we had reported in couple weeks ago that mog was for sale was putting itself up for sale they didn't confirm that either on this also follows rumors from before Mobile World Congress that beats an HTC were launching their own music service which yeah we did talk about that in the show right in which tip but that never panned out but why create your own music service when you could just buy one yeah then ally for HTC according to this rumor they didn't even have to buy it themselves they let it let beats by it and you know they own 51 percent stake in beat so it's basically the perfect but it's just you know that division so let beats handle the music thing and whatever when they've got a bunch of extra money lying around from how much they charge for those headphones I know there that's it but they're awesome and they work really well totally except for that they make it seem like it is okay to charge four hundred dollars for the cheapest version of I know maybe it's 300 maybe it's 200 either way it's insane yeah oh I think it's 300 i think the cheapest one is 299 i went to buy it for my brother as a president best buy and i honestly have never felt like more of a popper because i had promised him this gift and we go there and then i see the price and i was like nope sorry i can't there's no way you're gonna have to choose the $49 ones I don't carry and they're made by sony yeah and there's like probably actually I've never heard the company they're made by you're getting them um so anyway so mog already has mobile apps in place for its services up for android android and iOS and blackberry app is on the way a blackberry app is on the way though if HTC is involved it would probably have to make a Windows app right because HTC has windows phones and yes that's where this rumor starts to lose steam because mog has recently given a thumbs down to a Windows app because they didn't have the resources to make one interest oh well but maybe now they will right so yeah be now they will I mean HTC has other it has android and whatever and they have everything but windows I think isn't you know next on the horizon for that hmm what I realize this rumor actually does hold water is that when HTC shacked up with beats it did so because it wanted to be different from the you know other companies they wanted to lay focus on music or focus i think they also bought open app i think it's called which was like your it was something that you can like its developer your talk to your that it was like an app that you can like see your computer on your whatever okay on your phone and you find everything i think so and so but it but you know but now that they've purchased beats or have you know become a big stake holder and beats their focuses on music right and so now HTC phones are going to be the ones you go to if you're a music lover because not only do they have the you know beats audio but now if they have a music subscription service built-in kind of how Cricket Wireless has move music you know then then maybe you'll get like a great subscription fee or something or two months free of mog or whatever like if you buy their phones so maybe it's like if you are not in the iTunes universe but you're someone who really cares about music and you're looking for a great music phone right dad to the iphone you should go for HTC's a new phone right but the difference between mog and iTunes is that mug is a subscription service so you have all music in the world on their servers you don't have to buy it you just might on Philippe aunt plan and with itunes you have to you know purchase the songs uploaded yourself I think some people who are so like stuck in the iTunes world wouldn't even consider trying a subscription service because they're so unless it was available on iTunes or on the iPhone because they're so they need itunes right to manage to manage their music I see and I think mog mog does have music management side to it i'm not sure if it's available through the app itself but you know you can manage music an HTC probably has its own music management in there like I think my phone which is HTC has some music management software in there and I just don't ever use it because it doesn't have enough room to hold any right well and I have Rhapsody on my phone and i love it i use it all the time you know i think i'm actually mistaken i don't think mot let me let me read my article that i wrote about this thing I don't think let's see I said who should if you're who shouldn't use mog there's no way to manage the music you own that's not in its catalog okay so you can't manage your own music through mog so that maybe that'd be something that they change or you use HTC's like internal yeah gram to manage your own music in any case here's another reason why I think that this rumor holds true is because if HTC is going in this direction and beats and they want to have a music subscription service mog doesn't have as many subscribers as the other guys so it's price is probably going to be cheaper like even if HTC and beats wanted to buy Spotify it's it'll probably be astronomical like they'll never be able to afford it you know Rhapsody bought Napster so Napster doesn't exist anymore by itself Rhapsody has a million subscribers it's probably too expensive so only ones left really are our do and mog and since mog has the better audio quality and I don't think our do wants to sell i think that they believe that they can still get better and better and better and compete and take over right and if mog was already you know maybe on the chopping block is me you know it's not really confirmed but they confirmed it to see you know who knows why wouldn't they sell it to beats go for it sounds good sounds good to me so that was that now let us continue to my favorite rumor that might not be so excited great like I can't wait till I get to talk about this room well it's not even rumor necessarily it's just like this thing that's been going hot then they just talked on the UM I need to use my headphones as a headband I just talked about on the 40 40 40 for earlier somebody called about it but bioware maybe is considering changing the ending of mass effect 3 which I mean which is a little bit not quite what Bioware said boo is that the mass effect 3 3 trailer this game looks so awesome and I know I would love to play it I so once upon a time there was a hit blockbuster amazing humongous game came out had some back it's called mass effect in eight who had to have conversations with others you had to make relationships with others you had to shoot others and then the end you had to save the galaxy what did not that you have to do so cut to Mass Effect 3 which just launched on march six sold almost nine hundred thousand copies in 24 hours OMG then you know everybody played it for 24 hours straight so by March seventh everybody was pissed because they got to the ending and it was horrible according to them they hated the ending we won't give any spoilers guys so but they hated and one fan is reportedly so mad that he filed a false advertising complaint with the FTC awesome i love it how people in america really believe false advertising is a thing yes not it's really not you could say anything you might so regarding the end to Mass Effect 3 the executive producer of the game Casey Hudson said last week that he wanted the game to be memorable admitting that the conclusion was intentionally designed to get gamers talking Bioware says it's actively and seriously taking all feedback into consideration with no decision made yet regarding into space bound role-playing game so this might not even be end it might be the end it's probably the end of this person's story but Shepherd shepherd but there might be other mass effect games that you know trap whatever go into a new version so Oh someone in the chat room is just like The Sopranos I totally so so I I don't want to give any spoilers for people who still want to play the game i talked with eric franklin yesterday he's a huge fan he's like i have not been reading very much about it because i don't want to spoil it he's in the middle of playing it but um I can't wait for him to get to the end I know and freak out well and then but so really quick though members of the mass effect community have formed this charity petition petition called retake mass effect chip in fun where they're collecting the paypal donations for a charity as a way of encouraging Bioware to make an alternate ending and the fun has amassed almost seventy thousand dollars is an money gonna then go to bio energy cherry to the charity just to get their attention that they're like getting whatever and then it says in quote so we would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled we simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love so that's how they're trying to get by our attention by raising money for this charity and they're not entitled they just really hope that you won't crush there's just us so eric is like you know when i talked with him about it because I was like you know tell me about this game whatever he was like I just can't he's like even if I hate the ending then I just hate the ending like whatever it's already out there you can't change it it's just out there I mean there is something deflating and is kind of like The Sopranos about investing all this time in something and then it doesn't end the way you want and it's over and you're left with this like feeling of just lost yeah and you spent you know years of your life playing this game you've invested money and time in three Mass Effect games you know is that you could have been talking to your girl hours that you could have been playing Assassin's Creed right there yet there you know you miss off um so you know again I don't want to spoil it but I read spoilers because I'm that guy who does that I always do that I always read the spoilers for everything and then I'm like why did I do that so I read the spoilers I read a spoiler and because i haven't played the game it only made so so sense because it went like super into depth about all the plot holes but apparently there are plot holes and it's anti-climactic that's all i'll say so people are mad obviously because you know such a huge a game that they've invested so much time in his anti-climactic in the whole game is you know climax not to be gross filet kit but yeah you're saving the universe but you know what I actually think that happens with a lot of these like grand concept entertainment things does anyone remember lost do you remember how all of that was like this grand tease that needed to lead to some huge enormous thing and then you were kind of like oh yeah that was the end but like I bet I mean can you imagine writing to the lost writers and being like a zillion people exactly and so the thing about this Bioware is not saying we are going to change anything they're just like we're listening doesn't which doesn't really mean anything we were gonna like we were talking yesterday about what would really in all seriousness the likelihood be of them changing the ending and I think we both agree that it's pretty slim because of how much money and time and effort would go into creating a new ending that they would send out to people like come on millions of dollars where George Lucas did it to Star Wars hey what are you doing here totally I knew and then he was like I didn't change it that was always like that um and James Cameron did it too Titanic what oh my god are you timing as a version of hytanica news leonardo dicaprio just not yeah I don't like I really so what ha I really hated when the Titanic sank so i'm going to write a letter to james cameron and be like please when you release titanic 3d I'm really mad I'm gonna give money to charity and please don't make it end that way change the ending because I said so and so did all my buddies I mean they do that like actually Americans are notorious for not being able to handle hard endings do you guys know about the book the Clockwork Orange yes i love the pin in britain when it came out and I think it's written by Burgess it has an ending in which that everything is terrible and it's a tragedy because it's a violent horrifying tragedy and then they went to do it in America and they were like nope we need a happier ending so there is a different ending you're the American version that like wraps it up and there's a little bit of that now years later where we still think we can do that and write letters a company that they're like we already put this game you like deal with it edger yeah exactly we said this is I mean and I get it like it's a bad ending or whatever people don't like the ending but like that's the ending that Bioware went with and if you don't like it then you just don't like it like you can't make them change it I mean you can and they'll probably offer a downloadable re ending you have to pay 25 bucks for it and then it's like oh I guess who came out the winner Bioware because they just made a million more dollars on you know a DLC of a new ending so keep keep it up keep it up America yeah spend your money unnecessarily yeah buy an ipad that you don't need by a DLC because you didn't like the ending of this game so I don't know so why I love us no I love us go getters I but but why the you know the headlines that are in the media right now we're a little bit misleading is that Bioware never said that they're going to change it there just like we're listening we here yet we see we're leaving it open so that you know which is good I mean it's better than saying whiny little babies of course we're not going to change it yeah just what they could have said yeah exactly so they're listening as they should I mean they're making this game for the people and the people are revolting not to be confused with revolting anyway that wraps up that rumor BAM should we go on to yeas or neighs yay or nay if this we're on you know 19th century England on someone were playing that harpsichord one of us would have to stand in front of the room and sing that's what women were good for I mean can you blame I why I get back in the kitchen yeah sing me a song so me a sock comes okay sorry alright please let let us continue okay you are the reader i am the transcriber android to pone the ipad market by 2016 no oops i put that for me i said no to okay nor is an office web apps refresh likely on Microsoft's menu y'all I say yay to uh oh yes we're voting the same will the HTC One X be Sprint's first LTE smartphone Oh y'all I say nay I'm gonna be contrarian and now lettuce please have a moment of silence for how sad it is that sprint does not have a 4g phone yet okay thank you i was gonna post a moment of silence alright so that is the end of yeas or neighs thank you for joining us for that and now let us proceed to the voting so we have had 25 episodes OMG we can legally rent a vehicle and without having to pay extra I know we're 25 years of weeks old ok so is lenovo the first to launch a Windows 8 tablet in october according to the report I say no I say yes windows 8 reportedly set for October debut i say yes i say yes to I said yours on the internet um did beats by mog I say yours I say here as well and will Bioware change the ending to Mass Effect 3 no they I say no way to I guess we have sort of a game we have sort of a game yeah we stopped taking sucker bets we decided yeah yeah from our guns yeah so um now we have a couple three voicemails West you know we had heard them yet we had left ourselves just enough time for these three rumors effect I mean voicemails the first one is from Jeff in Las Vegas who is calling from the ipad line hi rumor has it this is Jeff from Las Vegas also known as flaming printer on the chat room oh I'm calling from the apple's new ipad wine in las vegas and it's pretty welcome but that's up there and I'm going to get the new iPad and I wanted to call and tell you guys I really love the show and unlike what someone said earlier I'm glad steven is starting to talk talk more on the show said it being like Steven makes it feel like you all are good friends so Craig it up to about thank you just from being in a line and I hope you love your new I don't let us know call us and let us know what you think of your iPad is it too hot i'm hearing about a thing to its flaming printer from yeah man there oh yeah hey flaming Brenneman printer so somebody said that they don't like Steven talking I will find that person and flappers minute love I don't know I that's what Jeff yeah what's wrong we do yoga head contrary to what people are saying I like that Steven ok let us move on to our second voicemail of the week okay this one is from steve from Maryland and he's teaching us how to bet properly which we need a lot of help right girl deeva Maryland blood the shelf this whole make reference to be a cute Instagram that um you're not really having effect if on the second set I bet the same thing he has its color what you have to do is that the opposite to double or nothings really good thing anybody knew is that what you'd be losing quite much but if you guys got the same thing still be up on us if you lose the bet so it really had did that that much at least he loves the show thank you I just want to say I think his name was Steve yes Steven Maryland if you ever want to come to San Francisco and come on the show and give me a lesson in how to gamble I would absolutely one hundred appreciate it because I am like honestly I came up with the idea for the show a tebya gambling Joe and that was one of the dumbest things I've ever done because I don't know how to gamble I've never won money ever while gambling I have lost every amount of money that anyone has ever let me gamble and I just fundamentally don't understand it like I've always wanted us to double down and go for not right but we could hide like oh so yeah when we were first like talking about the show or like yeah we'll do double downs that day and then were like yeah well how would we go down would that mean so if somebody wanted to take it upon themselves to come up with some sort of rubric for us if it wants to be if you want to do it Steve that would be radical um and we'll do it at totally because this show is a work in progress we're always looking to always evolving be exactly to be a better and bigger yes we are growing we're growing grow with um i dunno to always double down on 11 as Sparkman in the chat room said I know how to play blackjack I don't know how to bet on this show i watch you win oh yeah oh yeah yeah yes I was like Vegas maureen win yeah i won like three hundred bucks I have to say I've never felt more poor in my life I said that I said that the first time today when i was in bestbuy by my brother headphones but no watching you guys gamble when I had no money in the bank and couldn't even get anything out of ATM was one of the low points in my life have to say VES is such an awesome so we have one more voicemail to listen to yeah and this one is related to one of our stories we did today and it's about windows 8 tablets I don't know who it's from sorry so when talking about tablet ecosystem wouldn't windows 8 like be the king over at all if it went and actually does come out because windows can do itunes and it can also do the amazon prime thing from for both those systems and that's all I was wondering is is wouldn't windows if a tablet does come out beat the king of contents is it can all be consistent can do the iTunes it can do amazon and plus its own xbox live content that is being hyped up a lot as well that's my question thank you very much um yeah I think he's right I think it would have you know it would be able to do content from everywhere plus its own you know xbox live content I think the thing when people think of tablets so they think of apps and I think you know windows doesn't have as many apps as the other guys do now and so native apps you know or or apps the way the app market is are like you know windows 8 this isn't necessarily true i'm not sure but like they don't have instagram or they don't have I mean I they don't have it they don't have a kindle app yet let's say and so it's not it doesn't have as many apps as the other guys so yes even though the ipad is tied to its itunes you know or it doesn't have it let's say a pandora app or whatever so yes they can get content they can get amazon prime content in itunes content or whatever man they can't but they don't have as many far-reaching apps as the other ones do yes yes the is that they may soon and with I mean the developers have had it it's coming out people are Microsoft's putting such a huge push behind it that especially to get those like 8 apps that you just named that are the kind of cornerstones like an Alex let's say I mean I'm not sure what yeah so I think that it wouldn't be that difficult to get them and then in that case yeah and also you know windows just has a reputation for being a lot more open to all sorts of software and like one of the reasons why you can't get amazon prime content on the ipad is because apple doesn't want to let Amazon have a piece of its pie you know right it's because they do allow the kindle app on the idea any good by stuffed as well I've never said they want hypocrites no but so I think the windows would be a lot more likely to let that be on there and that would be awesome yeah well totally and I think I mean again that's I think just I think it could it does have the potential to be the one tablet to rule them all of course because it is open it has the potential to have netflix hulu whatever whatever all these native apps I mean unless they unless the other tablet makers have like you know exclusivity rights to Netflix which I don't think they do so i think i think netflix is like will give it to you for free try take it in total i know poor netflix that's so anyway thanks for spending a moment of your week with us here at rumor has it call us at 1 800 750 cnet with any comments tips complaints yes Jen deviation suggestions or email us at rumor has it at cnet com and see you next week you