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and good morning on Wednesday July 5th it's episode 250 the big to 500 of the 359 podcast and as would see fit we've been cursed we apologize for the delay for whatever reason Ben is pointed out that we always have something technically go wrong that the lazy starting of the show on the big landmarks good morning everybody thanks for coming back to us after the long weekend what's up guys first up how are your weekends fine I was in Canada my very patriotic you are I don't have I don't have a hangover but I have a freedom over freedom over don't know what that is but too much freedom this weekend at tiny bald eagles that could veer towards some dark territory anyway should actually be a cocktail anyways why don't we get started we were talking about the delays in Samsung's this bixby digital assistant special deals that you can only get special prime day deals of them deals vixx and and lastly the the real threat of Goldeneye or not Pecha one of it's called something called own eyes a much cooler name for the ransomware attack that happened last week but I've lost the branding battle and everyone's calling it not Petya instead alright so we're going with as always if you have any questions leave it in the comment section Brian will get to the best and we'll try to answer them in three minutes in 59 seconds from 3m or after yeah most likely after three - welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Chang I'm Ben Fox ribbon I'm Alfred Eng remember big feasts keep going keep it going all right so remember Bixby probably not but it's samsung's digital voice assistant they talked about it as sort of one of the marquee features of the galaxy as eight i've despite the fact that the phone has been out for months Bixby is still nowhere to be seen the Korea Herald has a report out saying that they're having issues with the English language version they can't get enough data basically that buzz would be in Korean it doesn't work in Korean but it doesn't work here and that's delayed to launch they said initially it was supposed to be in April then and spring and now it's you know then June and now it's obviously July and we still haven't seen it still no word from Samsung on when this comes out I mean are you surprised I I mean why why they can't get this right I'm pretty simple like that's surprising because this is a major tech Titan just get your deadlines right I mean what happened what's the matter how did Amazon get the data for Alexa though because it kind of just came out of nowhere with that I I imagine Samsung had the same like ace up its sleeve or something yeah it's a good point however people tend to forget that when the echo first came out it was only did yeah it only 14 skills it was super basic and they were able to build it out as they continued to get data yeah because big speed does not have that option because it has to be much better coming out of the gate but has voice recognition technology and voice assistants are much more developed and much more complex than they used very interested that you know they were able to develop a working version in Korean first I mean I understand that they're based out of Korea and they have a lot more users there but from what my understanding is I feel like Korean is a much harder like speech recognition part of the problem and the Korea Herald kind of breaks this down is us engineers have been trying to work on this in English but they've had unsurprisingly communications problems with the managers back in Korea I think it was a lot easier to do it with with the Korean language because you know most the upper staff engineers there are all speaking Korean so the more data they had I think they probably have a friendlier base of users in Korea for to understand they had launched a beta here in the u.s. to a couple of sort of early access customers and so far the results of the mixed yeah I would like to throw out there that I kind of feel like nobody really cares to a certain extent about pick speed because you've already got Google assistant on those phones yeah you can also get Google assistant on an iPhone which I would strongly recommend you use instead of Siri so I don't think a lot of people are waiting around for yeah it's funny because I mean Sam the Galaxy has a it has a dedicated physical bixby button on the side that does nothing that's true that's right but if you want a Google assistant all you have to do is tap the home button and you're good to go so like why would you want to use Bixby even if they were working yeah so real challenge also in more voice assistant news if you're interested in prime day because God knows I my wife is all stoked right so Amazon Prime day which starts on the like at night on the 10th and it goes into the 11th you can ask your echo or your echo dot or whatever other Amazon devices that you have for special deals on Alexa so just these are all Alexa only Alexa only deals and the the reason that this is interesting is is that Amazon just continues to try to make voice shopping a thing so it's trying to create special discounts and deals to get people interested in doing this I mean clearly they're just training people to get comfortable yep using their echo to buy stuff admittedly I mean I have two echoes in my house I do not do a lot of voice shopping I always want to price compare so really I don't do it that much well yeah well unprimed a I'm very surprised that they said more than three million people like there's been more than three million like Alexa what are your deals like commands right since it's been released and it's just I can't believe that many people would shop like that there are a lot of there are a lot of echoes out there alright so lastly we wanted to talk about not petya or gold annoy or whatever you want to call it that massive ransomware they hit last week Albert you had a story breaking down the real reason why this exists so essentially the idea is that this wasn't really a ransomware attack but a way to wipe out data in general ransomware in its essence like locks up your data and like you know encrypts it so that you can't get it and then ask you to pay up so you can get it back the idea behind this is they used to ransomware as a cover so they could just delete your data in general and if you looked at the code behind it and if you looked at the emails where the ransom was supposed to go to it was really bad and they never really existed to be kiddin really try that yeah so it's becoming very wise I can't say Russians theory the uranium police blamed the Russians for it but there's no definitive proof that it was that interesting alright so for more of these stories check us out and see that I'm Roger Cheng I'm Ben Fox Ruben I'm Alfred aying thanks for listening so what shall we open back up with for cheddar today I know we have a limited amount of time yeah sorry guys we've got I've got a beginning in about six minutes so this is really short if you got any questions about prime day about this video or about Bixby I know right now Harish is asking when will Bixby be available in India and that's it's all available cream having trouble with English so I have to imagine other languages are way in the back and you really can't it must Samsung's like predicted dates on this considering that they kind of missed the mark already on yeah why seal it could be rolled out to India in English though right maybe that's what he was asking about way behind the curve the legend 34 says I like the name Bixby I know we've given in a lot of a lot of guff a lot of guff in the past it was chosen because it was millennial friendly it was kind of hipster name it was also a gender free I don't get have people started naming their kids big SPEA no after the actor who played the Incredible Hulk wait yeah who I know the original Incredible Hulk actor who was that he went to my high school we were like a graduate from there I don't I remember it's only good now Bill Bixby played Incredible Hulk you tell of the original movie Hulk no I'm talking about the TV show Hulk guys more questions what are you guys looking forward to at for prime day this year I don't even a chance to look at the the alleged deals the oligo the chef's hat that's like 50 cents off this here because I don't like you last year they were kind of like oh this is just kind of like a garage sale for the past two years has been that where like they're basically trying to clear out their warehouse I did notice the deals that were being offered is Alexa deals a lot of that stuff was smart home delayed it was a lexer Elena that's true so they're really trying to push I mean we were thinking about stuff like that connected yes or whatever they're I think they're really smart plug yeah which cost like thirty five dollars and you get seven dollars off if you order it through Alexa I mean like it's still expensive I saw a plug but it's Wi-Fi connected smart plug I can turn off that plug with my phone is that how it works yeah yeah yeah or with Alexa so anyway sorry we keep triggering your Alexa's people not doing it on purpose mathew dieter is asking is primed a really anything more than just splurge spending lightning deal for something that you don't really need well I don't know late last year those diapers we're on discounted that was harsh to be fair I think they sold out on their Roomba vacuums in like three seconds or something the problem is and they did get better with this the second year around where they had really hot deals they were like the doorbuster deals yeah but they had such low inventory that they sold out of them immediately they increased the inventory but still sold out of them immediately the second year but you had a bit of a less of an excuse that like you you missed out but they had like both years I spent hours like just browsing for like good a single thing I waited for previous years I waited to buy stuff that I wanted and lo and behold like none of that stuff was actually on sale so you just probably never come Black Friday yeah you you invariably end up just like purchasing stuff because you've got like the sunken cost that you've been sitting on Amazon just like how they get you ten chefs hats now well you wear though what everyday did three for backup I just like walk are like who is the chef in this house right but going back to the voice shopping stuff like if they definitively can say like hey this is gonna be discounted from what the regular price is for something then you don't have to price compare as much and maybe you can voice shop with a little bit more certainty or like price guarantee or something that's pretty interesting yeah I very least if you know that it's discounted 20% off of like the regular market rate then like I would be much more likely shopping make makes a lot of sense I think you're shopping blindfolded Wow like it does if you if there are certain like staple goods right like milk like a bowl of cereal I don't know Bowl sir you know maybe a box of cereal you know like like like you know because of a boy I would do voice shopping if it was for food like like if I could order like a pizza from like my local like pizzeria I think you can do that like ya know you can totally do your echo I think Domino's Pizza I'm doing it Papa John's I think ya might people miss Papa John's is infiltrative just about everything yeah hey we got a rabbit us in the house wait more Christ Papa bless we got one more real good question before we wrap it up speaking of voice assistance Kellan's asking would any of you guys personally use Bigsby on a daily basis now bet I know you adhere to the the Church of echo so well we haven't really tried nixb so it's hard to say again makes me a little different it's supposed to be an assistant that helps you control your phone like you'll be able to run searches for specific photos in your phone or it's not it's less about search and more about sort of it helping to manage your device yeah but how often do you use the voice like assistant on your phones anyway ever yeah that's your thing Siri does a pretty good job of like helping me call my wife I mean like that's basically a tap to call yeah Mike I don't do a pretty good job of that as well all right so would you usually that way we know no because new voice assistants I would say are gonna be very shaky for at least the first couple months I if not the fire we got to wrap things up like we go so if you like anything you saw or heard here check us out a CNET our podcasts off available iTunes tune in stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and google play music we'll try to do better tomorrow have a little longer of a Q&A session everything run while Roger jumps on out of here we do want to remind everybody that we are going to be going on a brief hiatus starting next week through the week following but we are pre taping a few fun episodes to kind of fill in the gaps while we are out of the office yo do we want to do 3:59 after dark take a few more questions Roger bales what they if you want to yeah or dude yes do we need to turn the lights off no not at all okay false ending everybody more and this is like the after credits oh no we ain't finished so here's I thought though before we do wrap it up for the day if you have any requests as far as like a fill-in kind of Evergreen show we have a couple of entertainment based topics that we are going to be publishing during the hiatus that we've pre-taped if you have any great suggestions you want us to cover go ahead and throw them on into the comments ahead in the comments when this posts on demand shortly and maybe we'll try to gladly get to any of this but um so as far as what do you use your your assistant for because personally I just checked the weather check the get my news occasionally play music that's heimer that's a lot of the basics I remember the name of the Hulk guy now it's Lou Ferrigno he went to your school he went to my high school yeah no kidding I think I wasn't there the same time I love that guy so he was actually the Hulk yes he was David Banner aka Bruce Banner ok David Bruce Banner ok so say reg no that's pretty cool he's a guy he's a pretty chill dude yeah I mean I the one thing that I use my echo for that's at least slightly more advanced is to turn on and off the lights in the living room and that's not even that you're like you're like futuristic I've got some idea I will say this set up like a philips hue bridge and frankly i don't i don't really recommend it that much to people unless they're really really into it because you can either screw in a light bulb and turn the lights on and off or spend 20 minutes setting up a smart light yeah it's nice when i'm coming in the door with like an armful of groceries you see i agree once it's set up great but it's my kids to make sure that they don't like you know grab something that they're not supposed to whatever so you often times I'll yell to my echo just to like find out what time it is yeah like what's the weather gonna be but like yeah there are like more than 10,000 skills on it and I probably use five or six like it's really not that exciting you can say that about a lot of things there's like probably like millions of apps out there and you use like 13 so yeah it's just a fair assessment we do have a request for an evergreen show recording uh Dre Frey just says comics comics I can handle that I know you can't I could you still alpha do still reprinted things yes your book right now a book that I got through so here's my policy on printed books versus ebooks right I live in a neighborhood where people leave they're like just like leave used books out on their Stoops a lot and those are pretty much the only like printed books that I read it people like leave them out on their Stoops or some of the books that we have in this office it was like mostly like romances don't judge what I read okay one more to expand on a request from fumar says DC EU or MCU so we could do comics in the comic movies we're talking about movies DC expanded universe to Marvel Cinematic Universe we do have a little Comic Con related stuff coming so stay tuned for that yeah I mean I could talk about the comic-book stuff didn't I tell you about a little bit about this it's it's a little easy but not bad you know I stopped reading Marvel comic Wonder Woman long time ago and switched over to like Dark Horse and yeah the other ones image I used to read a lot of Dark Horse when they still had Star Wars yeah I've read of I went into the Indies I'm sad did not really take off I mean like one DC I love rydw though the Garfield extended universe is probably the best comic book adaptation into like films sure you wouldn't already signed on to that project normal normal you know like a three part movie series that's free I think Sony actually has the rights to the OD we're sorry and we're sorry right so that's actually probably a good point to really wrap it up right but we're not we're not gonna do the out try again but thanks everybody for your suggestions if you have any more for an evergreen show you want to hear us do - yeah fill in for the i8s send those in you know after the piece posts on YouTube yep and yeah we'll have one more regularly scheduled show before the hatest hiatus baby haters hate is in the house tomorrow so we'll see you back here bright and early tomorrow morning pending nothing breaks again and I don't cut my hand open again trying to fix it so alright later everybody thanks I