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and good morning from the scene at New York Studios it's time for the 3:59 podcast episode 236 in the house today we've got Roger Chang and Alfred Inge three two one let's jam yeah I wish tat it up we've got a great show for you we were talking about Android versus iOS 11 now that we've got a look at both of them obviously the full purchase will come out to the fall but our own Jessica dual courts already kind of made an early judgement as to which is better I will talk about the upcoming UK elections tomorrow and the impact of fake news it really just big news in general uh yes as referenced by Brian Vint row we were talking about Cowboy Bebop getting a live-action TV show treatment I'm not sure what to think about that really I don't want to think about it come back and covered in detail yes you have any questions about these topics as well as our CNN magazine cover Tom Holland the new spider-man feel free to leave in the comment section Brian will get tome pick out the best we'll get to them in 3 minutes and 59 seconds from 3:00 to welcome to the 359 I'm Roger Cheng I'm alfred Aang so yes we're still going to talk about Apple today while we focused a lot on hardware yesterday the events really focus on software so with both Apple and Google showing off their latest mobile OS we want pitts Android o against iOS 11 it turns out our mobile expert Jessica dual-core actually ruled to Android Oh comes out on top really comes down to the improvements in artificial intelligence AI and just sort of how Google sis is evolving relative to Siri and I mean there are a lot of other car bells and whistles that she talked about right now if you know if you're an Android fan you've got to be feeling pretty good yeah I think when you're comparing a lot of different access key aspects you're kind of taking a look at you know comparing apples and you know Android oranges yeah I'm pretty sure us with the o stands for barrios I mean on the things that they you can compare them with like VR and AR I think Android o comes out on top of this one I mean definitely with Apple they were showing off a lot of the AR features words like look at the shadow on that and look how can ya look at look at this digital Cup call a cup which is cool but like doesn't really help with Android Oh like the AR features were actually useful where you know you could find out like what the menus like at this bar that you're at or where you can find out you know your friends Wi-Fi password just by using your camera on like a barcode and things like that just Jessica notes you know with the with Android oh you get a picture and picture with Google Maps which is super useful you get a more enhanced cut paste you know the iOS 11 you can pay with your friends using iMessage and Apple pay you can control different audio on multiple speakers in your house all these things are nice to have but just seems like Google's improvements are a little bit better a little bit more useful right I mean I think with all these bells and whistles like assistant versus Siri there AR VR features you know maps and you know being able to pay your friends through text I think those are all cool features and you can stack them up against each other all day long but I think at the end of the day it's gonna come down to like speed and I think Apple you know iOS might have Android beat on that yeah that's for sure yeah um so look it's we don't really know what this is going to look like until the fall until we see this stuff working in iPhone 8 pixel 2 makes that wait really really hard though all right next up around Katie called a story on the impact of fake news on tomorrow's UK general election obviously it's been a busy year for elections really going back to our own back in 2016 and fake news has played a role in all that I mean what do you what do you think is still a big problem I don't think the UK will be hit as hard as the u.s. was with like fake news I think they've kind of learned from like the USS mistakes Facebook for sure has learned from its mistakes I even put out like a large series of ads out on it and I think they're much more aware of it now and I think there's much less like confirmation bias when it comes to you know these this kind of news in the UK and I think the more interesting thing is that the the bot army that they had like spreading this fake news day a research firm found out about like 11 percent of the fake news spreading in the UK was from BOTS yeah it's like what 1 in 10 person is a robot like spreading like fake news which is although she didn't know that it escalated as the election went on anyways as three huge cowboy bebop fans we could not talk about the live show in development is this something we're excited or worried I think I'm glad that it's actually showing not a movie because Cowboy Bebop is so nuanced as a show where it has like women like vignettes and it like captures like oh you know spikes like story but it doesn't do it Epis ah it doesn't do it like in a linear like way it does it right episode 1 then episode like 13 um like again and there are a lot of great standalone episodes that really kind of show off the characters this is not I mean you can sort of sum it up as this sort of sci-fi Western but it's so much more than that yeah so I mean yes I agree that in terms of that that the lack of nuance that a movie would have and I'm really glad it's getting a TV show agreement alright lastly we want to throw out T's for the latest issue of CNN magazine newsstands now it features Tom Holland the new spider-man so definitely check it out or the interview is also online before all these stories check us out and see that I brought your check I'm Alfred a thanks for listening I don't know how I feel about Cowboy Bebop aa little worried I mean you know what that it's it's sort of how I felt when I heard about Death Note getting the live-action treatment like like but that's not already got the live-action treatment Death Note wasn't in Japan I never watched it I watched it actually was my first introduction to Death Note was washing the body like what is this weird thing and then I went back and watch but the next one the Netflix version looks really weird I actually read something interesting what was the director's name Chi Chi may the Creator oh no no no Bebop uh I'm brain farting on the on the name but there was something I was just kind of skimming an article the other day about how he actually liked the American dub better yes I do too yeah he did which is rare you know like that's kind of sacrilege Nana Mae town but you know that means that the characters were just really well pertaining good actors a good actor I'm also saying like there's certain animes were like the dub is just better like Dragon Ball Z in its original like language is terrible fair enough enough I don't know maybe cuz I was used to original language version I like the son Steve Blum is the best bike like there's oh yeah yeah yeah okay yeah I like this comment from lost legacy in the YouTube chat we already had a cowboy bebop live-action show it was called Firefly yeah maybe this one will get cancelled - o-dog do that man I just remember that first time watching Cowboy Bebop that was a real one of my original binge efforts by the way they that was like a cathartic moment by the way the director Shiro Watanabe Watanabe yes and screenwriters Keiko Nobu Muto listen one of my big stipulations about the revival of the show is as long as yoko kanno as bad yes seatbelts if you don't got the music you don't got the show I don't care if they rerecord I don't care if they remix you need that music I wonder what they were gonna do about the soundtrack for this because that that soundtrack is like just use the same soundtrack not something for I to improve upon it honestly I would have prefered they did a live-action version of like samurai Champloo than Cowboy Bebop sandwiches are like a spiritual successor yes yes absolutely yeah in in show and soundtrack style and I feel like that shall rest in peace new Jonas that show would have worked a lot better as a live-action than Cowboy Bebop did I just feel like how I probably also would be a lot cheaper to produce like the holes I feel life is getting a CGI and all that that's gonna be like it's gonna be a pricey show or it's gonna either be a pricey show or it's gonna look really cheap look what we're coming out with a the Star Trek though not too you know married are cuter old whore our parents are too much but it's like so far a lot of the imagery looks pretty sharp I mean it's getting easier to do good looking sci-fi on but you know what that's a big commit a lot of my - right sure Cowboy Bebop is a little more nice as a little Cornish there's definitely a loyal following there but it's not as wide a star trekkin better in terms of the money that'll be able to command like that that would worry me like cheap CG I could just quickly destroy show no matter how well written you're very right very interested in what they're casting decisions are gonna be I think I think a long time ago there was like a fake poster out for like a live-action cowboy Keanu Reeves yeah spike um I could see it I could do the voice um I feel like he doesn't have the crispa there he's Keanu Reeves he like plays Keanu Reeves in every movie listen I'm confident like we thought that we didn't need the movie yeah from years ago and that ended up being pretty okay because it was from the same people all over again that's the most important part but it was like he kind of telling a story but they kind of filled in some gaps what does Steve Blum look like does he look like spike at all I know he's got a he's got a beard okay because I remember there was talk about like if there was ever like a Metal Gear Solid like movie later would have to be like Solid Snake or something yeah but I mean which would never happen by the way as they would have a Hollywood star yeah please for sure yeah Steve one maybe though I don't know I might not be that big of a star if I don't even know what he looks like yeah well he's a famous voice yes he's like he's huge yeah but but that may not be a skill set right like he died be grated voice acting but yeah they're gonna get to do like Fey or jet ein who are they gonna get to play yeah the Dahlia Corgi is thinking Edie but also I hey does no outlet spike out in the chat go ahead and submit your fan casting for this cowboy up we were curious to hear brie I really have no thoughts on this at all because I can't not picture the animated characters as voiced by the actors I can't put a face to that yeah we just have Adam Sandler in his homies like ahaha baby Steve Buscemi is a get out haha it looks a little bit Netflix special so Steve Buscemi would be a pretty good ed yeah that's what I'm saying oh yeah we have live by the way do we have questions on Android and iOS I imagine we do if they're all there's a lot there's a lot of oh god there's a lot of chattering amongst themselves but let's go ahead and jump back into iOS versus Android and yeah it's kind of interested to see Jessica's conclusion and all that could you maybe elaborate on some of her points yeah I mean I think it's just a matter of seems like Google's just doing more and in the places that we care about and Android assistant and a Google assistant I think was a prime example like alpha brought it up with AR right you know apples kind of showing off this like gimmicky check out this cool fake coffee cup on the table whereas Google's like we're gonna let you put your phone and restaurant and get yelp reviews right up right on the setting that seemed to be the thing the theme of Android oh that stuck out to me the most that like made me think it beeped out I owe s11 where it's basically it's all the things that iOS 11 is offering but like we're making it useful like we're putting in a way that like you can these are like legit use cases that you can have it for as opposed to this is really cool and we got it like it's just they're all useful and they're all like relevant and you know we talked about a are a lot obviously with VR Google's you know way ahead with daydream with a platform I mean Apple hasn't even talked about virtual reality yeah that's not did with the Star Wars thing didn't I that was was it I guess I was portrayed yeah I mean they be they talked about which looked really cool but that was the that what they said was that the hardware would be able to support VR experiences they're not really doing a VR thing themselves right whereas Google is like taking ownership of that category I say hey we've got a whole platform to develop VR on so that it just seems like Google is taking more of the initiative with some of these newer areas and then I don't I'm not sure how much of like the the user interface that like Android Oh at really went into but I know with like iOS 11 that was like a big point for them that like menu bar that they had oh the control side yeah which I'm like that's been a thing unlike Android for like years now so what about the fact is what they did was basically eliminate one window so you would swipe left or right which is annoying for me right like having to like pulp the command center and it swipe left or right yeah so music but my boat like that they should that's existed on fetching from Android and also that should have been an issue Apple the first place they should have had they should have been this swipe left swipe the same thing when they were like oh check it out like the the App Store now has a game section like yo like Android has also had that for my Google Play Store so it's just one of those things where it's like yo Android has had like all these things for like a while now and I'm a to be fair and had it's been going on for years Android or Google has stole from iOS and Apple has stolen from Android they kind of like steal each other's features to tell they're kind of close to parity but it just seems like in terms of the future tech stuff definitely Google seems to be ahead of the curve here um let's go ahead and jump back into the chat real quick one gwx says is really anxious about AR but is really apprehensive about VR for one we'd like you to elaborate on that what are you favoring for AR how do you find it to be and your words useful tech as opposed to VR which I'm a you see it's just kind of like a gaming gimmick which I don't think you're alone in that what do you guys take away from the a RvR battle going on right now I mean I feel the same way I look at it the same way that I look at like blu-ray DVD versus you know like HD DVD up blu-ray DVD sounds weird I'm sorry that's wrong but no I I mean I don't think it's a format war I think it's definitely they're different I I know that they hate the term use case but they're different uses for this right like AR I think has more of a place you know in the work put in the work environment your personal life because it's it kind of blends in throughout blends it with your real world VR is Morgan it's definitely entertainment in gaming right you have to sit there you hit the good time commit Hardware likes but the throw into this view are the thing is that like AR is already like you don't need an extra like device for that like it's already on your phone yes and then who's to say that you can't do like AR with like gaming and entertaining either I mean we saw you can't know I'm saying is that there are more places where AR yeah applicable as opposed to feel like you've ER the workplace yes you could CA are both at home or the office I know I know a lot of companies have like kind of bet like a lot on VR two of like Facebook thinking that's where people are gonna be like going with like chat and stuff but I don't really see it honestly I feel like more people are gonna be doing like any stuff that stuff one of the problems VR general is I know Facebook wants to make it a social thing but it's not ya isolating you are kind of by yourself you're experiencing something really cool but for most for most the experiences are out there you by yourself yeah to clarify when I said the ARV are battle I didn't mean the ARV are we're battling technologies against each other that there's competing companies trying to get the top seat in AR and at the same time VR it seems like more companies are focused on AR at this point oh yeah it shifted VR was like this Hot Topic a year two ago well VR is kind of old too you know it's been that way to say trying to be and they are still the newer cars yes really it's definitely more developed it's a little bit fresher so you see a lot more companies not jumping into that but she's interesting that Apple has talked to lava AR but not BR at all yeah right so lost legacy in the chat says does the Google assistant on iOS even out the aia our debate it's an interesting thought even out know so just being having a competing assistant on iOS as opposed to well I would yes and no I mean I think it's great that Google wants to get Google assistant onto iOS but it's not going to be as proactive it's it's you know the default assistant for your phone is still gonna be yes I'm sure right can't necessarily I don't know if you have like a wake word for me okay Google it's the same way that like if you want to use Chrome on your iPhone it's still like a pain in the ass to get to it where you have to like you can't open up like links that people send to you in like iMessage in like Chrome or reset those default yes well life you could then yeah then it would definitely be in the debate yeah um all right before we wrap it up for the day let's talk about we had the kind of Gray's over let's talk about the spoderman real quick Bitterman Spearman yeah so Alfred you take issue with mr. Tom Holland to take issue with him I just like to do it and see like well tell our viewers what I want to do so I found out in the interview that we did with him that Tom Holland actually has a history in like dancing he's his favourite like dancer is Michael Jackson he really appreciates like how he came up with its own style I got his break it Billy oh yes he did yep and he actually in his audition for the role he did like multiple backflips like to kind of show you these acrobatic like Spider Man like high backflip yeah I'm Tom backflip um so I saw I saw the video I saw him doing like a few moves and I thought I could definitely beat Tom Holland in a dance battle because I breakdance regularly um and I was watching what he was doing and I'm like I can do all of that but better so maybe I could be spider-man I don't know how like how like into filming they are how deep in like maybe they could just CGI me over him um I feel like that's how Hollywood works when you beat somebody in a dance battle you take their roles yeah yeah that's exactly how pretty sure that's what happened with it's like the Highlander bottle but with dancing yes so um if any Tom Holland family members or friends are watching this please send us his way and literally or I'd love to have a dance battle of Tom Holland maybe take his role we could do an air no that being said he's gonna be the best spider-man we've ever seen yeah not seen me be cider FairPoint but you know what I really like what I saw it's in Civil War like he was yeah it was like Civil War it was pretty extra late now sorry give us a give us a with great power comes Wyatt you fight yes perfect spider-man there we go all right uh that's probably a good spot to end it for the day before we get too long-winded and off-topic we can yeah this was a fun one even though we really barely addressed the top the main topic I mean everybody's got their own opinion in their own mind there's so much only so much we can really talk about if you really want the better details check out Jessica's article yeah she can definitely flesh it out better than than we did yeah she kind of breaks it down by features too it's not just straight like androids better like she'll break down different categories in some ways iOS is better but for the most part overall her conclusion was Android right now looks to be the better opportunist fair enough all right let's wrap it up all right right date that you saw her here check us out on CNET our podcast is also available on iTunes TuneIn stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and Google Play Music see you all tomorrow later everybody bye see you space cowboy