Gadgetory


All Cool Mind-blowing Gadgets You Love in One Place

Steve Wozniak explains 'Woz's Law of Robotics' to us (Tomorrow Daily 329)

2016-03-10
on today's show we deep dive into the world drone pre we talk about software that helps you create music with face tracking and we also talk a little bit about good years massive tire balls we also sat down with someone who legitimately changed the world Steve Wozniak tells us about the Silicon Valley comic-con and finally we bring back back at our hackett with a fantastic phone game that's gonna let you play FPS laser tag out in the streets sounds good to me do not turn away so help me this is tomorrow daily trading stairs into the internet welcome welcome to tomorrow daily the besties talk show the known universe on ashley's gather i'm jeff cannata oh my goodness what a what a huge episode was it delight it was a true honor i think for both of us to talk to Steve Wozniak that was great it really was we both agree bucket list item yeah uh it was great to meet somebody in Jeff said earlier this week and I agree with this great to meet somebody who truly changed the world you can you can actually talk to a person who literally has proven to have changeable and you know it's the first time I ever got to be in the same room with him he does not disappoint he is exactly who you think he should be not at all you want is to is to have him be the exact person he is that's great even exceeded my expectations but we got some topics to deep dive about and then we'll get to watch so lots of the headlines alright so the world drum pre I just love that that's a thing can we go to it yes let's go to there can we have the world drone pre happen every day of my life for the rest of my life yeah first person drone racing is really exciting to me this is awesome okay so this is happening in to buy if you weren't here earlier this week Dubai is hosting the world drone Prix where many and difference look how they control it oh I know it's amazing they have their first person headsets on and then a gets it I would get motion sickness maybe just I know right it's the world's bar spree is what it would be just a little bit right and it's um it's really amazing look at how nimble and fast these guys can fly these things I think you know this is a level of skill anybody that's actually tried to fly a drone knows it's tricky as a learning curve but what these guys are doing and gals are doing with with drones is really impressive I'm wondering how it would be live to really see it that's the thing i think a lot of people are wondering about like Logan had mentioned that too there's a motion graphics oh it's tragedy so they go what a terrible thing um I I really like the nighttime track to which we'll get to in a minute but one of our hey TD is a couple people had said do you think Nikki said do you think drone racing will become the next big sport to watch or get involved with especially in an fpv VR experience that's how I want to watch how you mean just put me in the cockpit with these guys I do think it would be a little bit nausea-inducing a little bit yeah the speed and and quickness with which they pilot these things and zip around corners and right i mean i'm sure if you're not the one controlling it it might be a little indus oriental disorient ence and then Derek actually asked so we're while the sponsor decals fit on the drones the foot of us they put him on the guys the the drivers I mean you always cut back to the guys with the with the goggles on actually I'm gonna one-up you on this no one up units cuz I thought a lot about this you guys a lot about this you really i love the feedback for this I really thought about this and I've got it QR codes on the drums when you lift up your phone to watch the race all the logos are like explodes out of that out of the drone that's pretty awesome changes as it goes around the track like you've maybe see a little like Thank I that'd be kind of RAD AR is the future of drone racing I just I'm very curious if the experience of like going there and sitting in stands because you know I've seen a lot of drone stuff we saw a bunch at CES right you know you see you see a drone and then it flies away and just a little speck and it comes back I mean that's not much different than a scar racing I guess right every yeah I mean for me I think it's I mean let's take a look at if we have this footage they'll take a look at the nighttime track because this is amazing this is the right track it's f 0 which is pretty much a Sierra and all of those lit up tines can actually any one of them can be articulated into a hoop so they fold up and around and they create a hoop for the drones to fly through so they can change the track you can see a couple loops there on the track um one of ours oh it's so amazing one of our users product or one of our viewers said the world drone for your minds we have light cycle battles in the movie Tron literally wondering whether someday that's going to happen as well I can only hope Wow but VRI chemically working toward the tron future for sure very true yeah and then Dustin wrote in said you and Jeff need a live commentate on the drone race on periscope come on I know you want you should we should totally it would be us just going oh oh oh are we being like I don't know what's happening but they're all flying around and it's crazy like I have your big jobs in the hand rhodri.jones ahead my link electrician to yeah exactly oh man I hope they named the drum God they should be named like horses like Mama's little drone Mama's little drone baby Oh Mama's little baby yeah there's no place like drone oh all just your own buns perfect I think we are revolutionising the sport as we speak we might be checking out some drone racing here in Los Angeles I would love that so we'll we'll keep you posted on that but but yeah so drum racing I think big I think big deal I think if they can do something like a virtual ticket I think that's where it's at where you can put on let's say your oculus rift you boot in and it says okay will you pay twenty dollars for a virtual ticket and you can choose any of the racers in particular race to check out their point of view and you can switch back and forth to different racers as they're racing I would I would give that a shot like I said I think it might be a little disoriented yeah but I were I would I would give it a shot I think that's really a cool it's a cool new way to it experience a sport I think that maybe we'll be seeing that in other sports to wear with virtuality watching of even football basketball we've talked about you know football you get you know buying a virtual reality ticket to the Super Bowl or to some other event that's happening I think that that's not realistic at all yeah I think that that is a hundred percent going to happen at some point if it helped it's already happening in some way but yeah so that is the drumroll pre if you want to check that out the world drone pre calm website as it has the livestream up so you can watch all I'm gonna be checking it out it's pretty cool and they have recaps you want the video that we're showing earlier so recap from day one and then day two and then there was some some of the races 11 there's like an 11 year old kid that really yeah I have like age divisions or he's just that good that's a good point I'm not sure and I and honestly I couldn't guess because an eleven-year-old might be better at drone racing than anyone else in the legit legitimately it I can't say for sure um okay so let's talk about I conductor so I conductor we discussed earlier this week facial tracking software that can enable either disabled person or a regular person to create music with just moving their face or their eyes the best thing about this is that it's very inexpensive this is all just off-the-shelf components face trackers like a hundred bucks standard simple webcams cost less than two hundred dollars to do this so you know it really can enable anybody the goal is to enable anybody to be able to express themselves creatively which i think is in a really lotta below and look how cool this works like this person is being right now like that's he's like oh and then you can hear like a chorus singing because he's chosen that as an instrument and then he can create that in a track which is pretty amazing stuff so and it requires such little movement and I think I'm a Jeanette you know more and more familiar with the input like for example someone that doesn't have the use of their limbs can really get in here work with it and get to a shorthand where they can hear it something really sophisticated sure yeah i think so and and i think one of the things you had mentioned was the fact that he didn't have to move his face all that much it's actually scalable to how limited somebody's facial movements are so even somebody with limited she'll mobility would also be able to use a software like this which is incredible yeah and also I can see something like this or this being picked up and developed for computing use or gaming or you know there's a million other ways that they could incorporate this and they took it to a few different places and used it and people really responded it just warms your heart to see these videos it's amazing and they were so excited to be able to create music and and he said you know we really connected with even the nonverbal patients people who couldn't speak or to you know when they created that music they knew what was happening and they were really excited it's an amazing thing an amazing thing you know it's important and I'm glad people are working on communication ways to you know get around be be functional if you have severe disabilities but take it taking it to that next step to just let someone express themselves creatively it's not just about function it's not just about being essential you know yeah you say functionality in the world it's not just about you know being able to take care of your side right it's that next step of really being able to contribute something and create something and feel ownership over something it's it's a beautiful thing and it's really inspiring it is absolutely inspiring and I like we just love that story it's so so cool and kudos to the designer and everybody kind of working on this project is amazing um okay so very last one which a lot of people have a lot of things to say good years concept for spherical tires why hasn't this already been a thing you know like this is this is bb-8 already showed we can make it happen bb-8 bb-8 your car on a bb8 that's pretty much what it is which is kind of cool um I so Goodyear has this idea that they showed off at the geneva motor show and they were like what if wheels were spheres what if it just was like putting your car on for basketballs right super high tag basketballs so they talked a little bit in the video you can see there's some there's some closed captioning there to talk about what exactly they can do with these tires a spherical tired read that looks I know magnetic levitation bat mo it wouldn't be using axles so that would enable using magnets would enable it to move in any direction at any time so literally you could instead of parallel parking car you could actually perpendicularly park a car by moving in 90 degrees right into a space would be really really cool and then also this I thought was really interesting the design of these tires would change based on the elements so if it was wet it would get soft it would create deeper grooves you'd be able to get more traction on the roads yeah but if not then you would have you know would be ready for dry seems stiffens would dry to deliver driving performance so I really like this idea of these sort of and I'm sure we have some technology kind of like this and current tires but I really love that they're kind of going all the way with it yeah and the fact that it really is a tire like this is this is a an actual tire just redesigned from the ground up I don't know if you played the most recent batman game but basically the Batmobile has tires kind of like this and you can move in any direction right and i think just having played that game my money my mind races and I go all the possibilities of being able to corner you can corner in in ways like look how look at this damn corner it's not just about parking I mean parking is the is the first thing your brain goes to but every way you drive the body of the car is always forward yes and you can turn the wheels which is pretty incredible that is such a cool concept idea unfortunately not coming to a car near you anytime soon although I let's talk a little bit about magnetic levitation to maglev tech because this seems to be one of the emerging sort of future well it's it exists now I mean is bullet train train fast trains use it right now and two great two great success right and it seems like we're really kind of taking maglev to the next step by incorporating into things like cars and incorporating it into things that we wouldn't normally have thought of before but now seemed very obvious like well why aren't we doing this in cars right seems like such an obvious thing I mean it looks very expensive to put in a car so I think that's a prohibited prohibitive part of it but I'm hopeful I think I'm you know I'm in favor of of this high-speed rail stuff the Hyperloop uses some maglev stuff right yeah it's uh the the tube actually is not on any kind of tracks yeah using so I believe it's like magnetic there's a football there's a few different design proposals that all kind of go around the basic of it that Elon Musk had suggested but yeah Hyperloop is an interesting technology that I think is going to incorporate some of some of the concepts from Matt I mean transportation and you know we've built us we built this world with roads so kind of stuck using them but stuff like this with these tires where you can kind of reimagine what the road how the road Randy yeah be you know traversed it's it's it's going to be it's the idea that we're gonna have to do this because we can't keep putting the same kind of cars on the road forever now we can so I'm you know I'm stoked about it no I dig it I'm into it um okay we're gonna take a really really briefly I just want to tell you guys a couple of we had a fear us right to us for hey TD and said this is great I think we're just tired of regular tires see what I did there oh I see what you did there I figured you'd like that um I'd love a good love a good pun guys we good fun mag love a good pun and I'll not know him we're gonna take a quick break and we're going to come back with the man the myth the legend of self Steve Wozniak on to our daily so don't click away everybody we are here with the one and only see what man yes and you are you are talking about Silicon Valley comic-con cuz I've always loved fun things I've always loved entertainment events I've even put on musical festivals of my own in the past yeah and so this is a big deal yes this is very exciting and we heard that this this came from a fusion of two of the people that were most influential on my life you and Stanley listen I met Stanley about two years ago and he's a hero to me and I'm a hero to him we hit it off and they couldn't stop us from pakka to each other we're so excited we said we got to do something we got to come up with something we didn't come up with it right away but other people around finally suggested let's put a comic con together we know how it's done we know how to do it and stand I said go let's do it that's amazing it is really cool and one of the things we really like personally for tomorrow daily what we like about Silicon Valley comic-con is your kind of taking these really high concept ideas in technology and science you're kind of baking them into what is now mainstream culture it's not you know being a geek isn't a weird thing anymore you're not a weirdo of your geek your your everyone and so we really like this idea that you're kind of bringing these things together like what kind of what kind of made you think like okay let's bring in technology and let's have you know babak from net from JPL come in and talk about space or you know any of the other guests that you guys have yes well the genesis of the idea was largely we're in Silicon Valley we have a lot of technical people a lot of technol people like the fantasy of the movies and the science fiction and the comic heroes of that imaginative and weird people that turn imagination into products but let's not make it a technology fair there's a lot of technology shows let's only handpick types of technology that go along with the pop culture so it just made sense and it was suggested at first cuz we're in Silicon Valley and we like doing things different I don't like doing the same thing as everyone else ever I like to be first of things yeah and we're also going to do this technology plus pop culture idea in Silicon Valley Tokyo we're working on that one too that's awesome cuz it makes sense because there's Tokyo's known for a lot of people at least in the past that we're really up on months later tomorrow it's where tomorrow happens there's robots there that I still would like to meet to this day I know as we we talk a lot about future technology on our show and we think it's really exciting and cool that you're doing this comic-con as a way to kind of merge all of your favorite things like you said but also a lot of other people's favorite things in a way that is not just kind of pandering to the masses like hey we're going to talk about one of the panels is you guys super babies versus a high mountain well you know what after reading the Martian and the way geeks kept all the numbers on the fly and do all the science yeah that seen Andy weir speak to author of the Martian that's gonna be good too but real I think the one I want to go to the most is a i vs super babies because all the time we're focused on AI it were the goods where the bads how does it come out for humans yeah and I'm on the real positive site right now you're the positive side of a I'm very positive feel all right tell us more about yeah tell us about that because I I'd gone through the negative side okay I've gone through the negative side if machines can think independently program themselves better than we can program advance faster and they get smarter than us well economically they'll replace our best thinkers even our best scientists they'll be able to think better our times faster than us or something for example economic the big the big financial traits of the world eighty percent of them are computer to computer in milliseconds because if you put a slow human in the loop you lose money well what if you set up a company across the street from Apple building similar products and you skip the slow humans even a CEO and the company does better economically could win so that's a fear what if they're replacing higher and higher levels of use of the real human brain there is so much though to do two robots being a quantity of them and running everything in the world and actually being able to to be on their own know the only their existence is going to really depend upon us for a long long time no matter how smart they are and we're going to we're gonna be working together they're going to be at they helping us have a better life we don't have to work as hard I've worked as much and maybe only one person has to work four days a week to own a home in Silicon Valley now my dream is that was like that was my dream when I was a kid when we took one person five days a week I was hoping it would go to four but now it takes two people full-time stressful jobs they do it with all the brain you can own a home yeah same thing in San Francisco so you would say did you see the new updated atlas that in Boston Dynamics post this video Atlas getting the box knocked out of his hands with a hockey stick the guy had a whole chicken kept like pushing buckle your pants poking and knocking them over and stuff we just so you would be technically pro robot in that scenario we'd be like hey stop pushing that robot around I don't know I'm but I the robots I think we're going to help us get a lot more done as human beings for a long time and they're going to realize that that we that's better to be friends to us now as a gasm off had a law of robotics no robot can harm a human being or by now it's an action allows how much good to people who the people who think good and don't believe in harming people thats thumbs good but isaac asimov had it all wrong a robot doesn't obey our rule of Robotics if it thinks for itself a thinking robot right feeling consciousness it wouldn't that rule is only one that was given to it it's a slave to human rule so I have losses law no human should harm a feeling robot when a robot has a feeling and knows you're killing it turning it off you should not because then they'll take a take us on as a type of enemy hmm no boy like that was it la yeah I don't hurt the don't hurt the machines once they do what they say 13 shadows on of course will hurt animals but these machines might be a little more than an animal yeah well I mean and I think they know if they were you know sentient AI that we talk about a lot in science fiction and even now we're starting to talk about it in you know computing and everything they should see us as partners and also I think that human beings will look at the travails of the world the hunger and poverty and Wars and all that I think it comes from our own lack of lack of being thoughtful so we're kind of emotional and we react and psychologists say it comes a lot from our inner conflict of we're mortality eyetality and we know that if I don't win a contest on dying and he's losing easily and he's living it yeah so that's why I say they'll harm the robots we don't want to give them a sense of their mortality even well we have a hard enough time treating humans and Pete well it's going to be tough treating machines but I sure but i think the machines if there's so much smarter than us they're not going to make such a crummy world as we've made i really want to believe in my heart that they're going to figure out ways to cooperate and find a lot more to lock cooperation and much less of the travails we have and that they'll find a way to have a world without work and they'll flee realize the importance of nature and taking care of everything including humans that are a part of nature now we're talking about this you brought up Isaac Asimov we're talking about this in very much science fiction terms were you always inspired by science fiction and fantasy and genre always always I'd rather read and watch movies their science fiction than most anything yeah well suspense is good too but so it totally explains you know Silicon Valley compound all these things together um so aside from super babies vs AI which i think is probably one of the best panels I've seen in a con what what is one of your other favorite panel speakers happening at Silicon Valley con con I have always been very poor anything artistic in the normal sense of art other than digital art and I'm afraid to try it and show people pictures or something like that so I want to go to the cosplay events and find out what they do that just is an observer quiet well when you can cosplay would you guys play as if I would be so scared I'm so bad I would be too scared of being busted I think I think I could act the part well yeah sure I really believe that but wearing costume I don't know do you think that might be a good way for you to kind of get around on the show floor sort of like um mm does it at san diego comic-con hill dressing a verb amazing costume and be able to not get mom I'm gonna be totally open going around meeting everybody the whole time I want to meet the attendees the attendees are the important people to me and I will but I will catch a few of the panels that are important that's cool that's really cool that you're gonna be you want to also be a fan of the content that's happening as opposed to just saying it on this comic con I don't even know who runs ever comes like and i'll probably watching a lot of other plug people doing the cosplay and all that and i'll learn from that maybe i'll be ready for it someday yeah hey listen I've when you're ready to make your cosplay just let us know when we could debut it on a show he's just and we're maybe we'll do a how-to you can tell show people how bilton because I think that yeah I think that you seem to really dig the how I've ever actually intellectually I'm ready but emotionally I'm so scared do you do stuff take her Avery do you still tinker with stuff do you still work on things I wish I wish I did but I have very busy life so yeah I have some technology companies going on and I've got a lot of speaking tours I think I've no time I think about it all the time though and what could I do to bring that fun to other kids and I'd love to see them doing it yeah yes I think cosplay is an expression of that too that that hands-on craftsmanship that I you're into something that's your passion it's in your heart and I'm going to play it out I'm going to be a big part of this in my life and it doesn't even have to be worth anything when we started with personal computers it didn't have to be worth anything just had to be something we believed in and one to do yeah it'd be worth money there's a big part of the show as VR is that's a technology excites you the vr-zone yes exactly run for this because look at the imagine of images of comic books and you know and the visual effects of movies and how powerful they are and we our computer screens got better and better remember 8-bit 8-bit game but they look like little cartoon characters verily like like anything and it got more and more real i started looking like a little bit like characters in hand drawn cartoons and then they start looking like real football games and real people and real movies that's where we've gone with computers but this whole room someday could possibly be a screen yeah and i'm in a whole different world and i can press buttons and walk through it and everything well that's what virtual reality does for us now yeah oculus rift and I think I can speak for us all when I say we're all kind of ready and willing for the holodeck but that's like the thing exactly off the whole again is exactly what I'm describing yeah I love wait yeah we can't wait thank you so much for talking to us about silicon die comment it's this weekend from next weekend I'm sorry next weekend yes it's next weekend eighteen nineteen twenty eighteen nineteen twenty it Detention Center and you can buy tickets so you should definitely go your get a chance to me was yeah you get a chance you get a shock to me was if you're on a panel you should definitely go super babies vai pounce I have a feeling you see in there yes and a lot more thanks a lot appreciate it welcome back welcome back well that was awesome um yes that was amazing I just love the idea of Steve Wozniak and Stanley like just having a bj another hangout just now being being awesome going hey how did you change the world I don't know how did you choose a row yeah just having a chat change the world meeting I incepted Jeff's brain no I accepted Jess brain more and then George Lucas walks in it goes no I did it all it was me you're both cg uh thank you again to see Wozniak and also to trip owner a CEO of Silicon Valley calm calm for letting us come in talk to Steve and also we got to talk to Tripp a little bit before the interview times all great people involved in that whole thing so thanks again and I will be following was his first law of robotics yeah let's hope we all do let's hope we all do you all do if it's a feeling robot no don't hurt it don't hurt don't hurt and on that no let's talk about back at her hackett today I thought I would bring something Oh not different but weird different weird it's weird this is called father died oh yeah and this is they they refer to it as a first the first real life massively multiplayer FPS now here's what it consists have my doubts okay so it's a nap you're gonna put on your phone yeah and you get an efficient Oh enemies nearby and you're like hall where's Millia where's the enemies I got to get out here first of all you're gonna look like a lunatic running around being like there are enemies around oh yeah um but that being said you have a device that gonna call Homeland Security exactly you have a device that goes on the top of your phone and you are then put into sort of an augmented reality situation where you can go attack other people playing the game in real life offline not on a computer again if you were doing this in the middle of a city square I think Homeland Security to come pick you up yeah here's here's the thing when I was a kid there's a commercial very much like this for laser tag yeah it was like you'll just play laser town in the world all the time everybody will have laser tags no no it's not gonna work like that real you might be able to get a couple of friends about to download this app and go out in the world but I doubt very much that it's going to work as flawlessly as the commercial the video and insists that it will yeah it's um it kind of reminds me a little bit of ingress I don't did you ever sure yeah my friend actually got really into that yeah yeah so kind of rise a little bit of ingress with some def PS at it yeah it doesn't meet the ingress doesn't require the sort of quick twitch stuff yeah I take it okay so you have this thing called the in scepter that's that's what they cause the in sep turn you put that on your phone and it looks like a looks like a good like a gun / camera lens like it looks like a camera lens a little bit um I just find this very strange and I mean it seems like it could be fun but seems like the kind of thing that we want but I i just i don't use like it seems like a thing that i felt excited about when i first watched it but then I started thinking like one actually use this and the answer is I don't know when I would actually play this so how does it know that your friend is playing I have a feeling it too uh it's like ingress where it's like you're logged into the game so it just basically has like points like oh this this person is playing the game so I point at a person and it checks the GPS location of the person i'm pointing add to make sure that that's a person is playing I can't just like shoot anybody any yeah dad you can't just shoot a person but I would imagine like the GPS would let them know if you were shooting at someone who was playing so or it would show you in the AR that they were a player yeah or a nearby enemy has it where um this is this this I love the ambition of it but this smells to me like one of those things that you see in the bargain bin at kb toys when that place existed you know it's like like a knockoff laser tag kind of dealing I will say this they are making a lot of money oh yeah what are they up to right now they wanted $50,000 and right now they have two hundred and seventeen thousand dollars well people are into this idea they are super into it ah so happy I don't think I'm backing it for 65 bucks you get to in scepters you get the app access and then you get a limited edition IndieGoGo camo weapon so I mean when we when we all are wearing are you know hololens and we all have the the added augmented reality displays on ourselves at all times then these games will make sense running around my phone you know I just don't think that makes sense yet you know what it is for me we're adults that's what it I think for yourself Ashley how dare you it's that if I was a kid I would love this yeah but when you're a kid these are the kinds of things when you're a kid that let you down because the commercial looks so awesome and so seamless and so flawless and it just works and is exactly what you want is a kid you're like yeah I'm gonna get my little brother is gonna be amazing and then you get everybody invested it you asked for for Christmas is the one thing you get you and your little brother both get it for Christmas and you have it and you unwrap it you're like oh my gosh and you download the app and you hold it up and you go well this doesn't work that was you preached that so much like that's exactly your breach of the choir yeah I get it I get it I know my friend was talking about spiky when I when I was like four to 12 14 wherever we want to spy gear like that or do you remember rock boy from home alone 2 and it was like everyone yes this is awesome and then they got anyways because it doesn't which ever you heard of mindflex yeah yeah mindflex were you it could you control a ball with your mind no you don't Ron oh you don't rock now listen maybe this is brilliant it works but I have my doubts and it's only because I've been burned a thousand times and the little child inside of me that asked for it for christmas has been hurt so if this is the thing that will deliver that child into the Promised Land I'm excited but I just don't think it is I way I'm gonna go wait and see for now Hackett maybe maybe we're happy maybe pick it up when it's on sale at target I would love to be wrong about this yeah me when this thing hits it hits the shelves i hope that i hope we get a father Aereo as i'm calling ontario instead a father died oh yeah fine valerio very oh uh I think we need to discuss what we're into this week because you are legitimately bursting at the seams to talk about it so it's time for it to it please you go first okay I mean here's the thing Cloverfield was it was a great movie there is a pseudo sequel that's hitting screens this weekend I got a chance to see it early at a press screening it's called 10 Cloverfield Lane and it's awesome it's phenomenal now I should write the top all disclosure I should disclose that one of my best friends in the world directed it and it's his first movie and I'm I couldn't be more thrilled for him that this thing is not only out in theaters but it's awesome I'm telling you guys go see this movie avoid spoilers it delivers it's scary it's thrilling its edge of your seat tense it feels like a Hitchcock movie with sort of like a Steven Spielberg movie stuck on the end of it it is so great and I'm so happy for my friend Dan trachtenberg who directed this movie I want everybody to rush out and support it so this is this is me not being impartial usually now I'm pretty impartial on show and I will you know tell you about the things I'm into but this one I'm into it for two reasons one its my friends movie and two it's really really really good I'll go see it for the marshmallow fluff sandwiches Aloha I mean alone in the trailer that's number one marshmallow fluff sandwich I'm in but secondly I actually I really did enjoy cloverfield and what's very different great notices but yeah it's great mary elizabeth winstead who plays the lead is fantastic and it's very much her story and she is this awesome like empowered powerful female lead and uh it's thrilling there are very long portions where I was like forgetting to breathe cuz it's I'm like oh so good go see it go see 10 closed a lane go see it not only because we're telling you to go see it but go see it because it's a good movie yeah good movie uh I would like to tell you what I'm into i miss you alfa GO alfa GO alfa GO i don't know if you've been keeping tabs on this you guys but the game go is a really old game i think it originated in China like the thousands of years ago one of the oldest um it's very easy game to learn you can get get an app on your phone you can learn it it's also extremely difficult to master and is a game that really relies more on human intuition as opposed to sort of a linear strategy like you would see in checkers or chess so it's actually they say more complicated a game than chess is yes that's true that's true and so Google got their eyes on go as a great way and a challenge for their own AI well that's only because we've conquered chess that's true like me half they were there were decades there where it was all like well computers do this it's been decided computers can do Jess I'm gonna tell you right now I played chess master 5000 I was a kid and it was beating me then so I now all about imperial battle chess what the animations um so alphago was created to play against a legendary go player this guy lee sedol is that is literally the second winningest go champion in in the world he's won 18 World Championships this guy is not a joke and they said okay well why don't we have a best of five and you can play against alphago and he said before the matches he's like okay that sounds great I will totally beat this robot they might go foreign one and then Google can have some victim sort of victory they can claim victory over all right guys this robots up 20 to zip he's just crushing Lisa dull how long do these matches take they can last I believe the lat the first one lasted the video on YouTube is like five hours long wow so this is a and encrypt but then there are there are rules where they will time limit turns so let's say you only have so much time and they thought that would actually help the human player because the robot wouldn't have because AI wouldn't have enough time to really consider what moves it wanted to make all of them so they thought it would help but no not not so so I Lee lost the first game and then came into the second one I'm really thought okay well a google deepmind alpha go about halfway through the match was like I am really confident that I'm gonna win this and he everybody was like wait wait wait the robot is like talking smack was just like I like at this the test statistically the Alpha go said I feel I'm gonna win this match like it they might as well go home hahaha not we're not that far am not that Barney all right well we can't make terrible puns I'm sorry um but yeah so he has beaten him twice it looks like potentially he might sweep him Wow 30 which is pretty intense but i've been i've been enjoying this and following this story all week so i highly recommend going and checking out the matches it's super fascinating stuff huge for AI because a lot of AI scientists thought this would not be possible for another 10 years Wow for artificial intelligence so this is a really big deal and you should definitely be keeping tabs kind of feel bad for Lee I don't he was he thought he was talking he got a little cocky I think he should have he should have known that it was a very tough opponent and now he knows he knows the tough opponent but after the second game and he after he lost he said you know I don't know what say I'm speechless wow it's a guy just I'm shocked I can't believe that that happened and apparently there the robot is making moves that even the most kind of trained go players are really stunned at they're saying is playing really aggressively their moves that they would have never made or that their trainers or coaches would have just gotten all over them for making and he's still winning so alpha go rewrite in the rule book alphago are we doing it player hit the game and the game is gals go games go alright guys that's it for the show today let's uh let's finish it up with our phone tog refer of the day harry wrote in harry said I harry took this picture of this galaxy s6 on Mars could be you taking on Mars guys could be my all-time fave cooking all time fav he says Mars rover found water hashtag hey TD I built this margin Mars rover from a kit photo was taken at homes lake in my hometown Lincoln Nebraska it was shot under natural Martian sunlight using my samsung galaxy s6 Ashley we got to get us a Martian Rover we should it be sweet only get one of those kids there's a little metal ones that you can build and he handled it together let me build it on the show Harry sent us a whole photo album of pictures that he took with this Rover and they're all amazing but this wasn't one we picked he said I'd be sweet if you share this photo on your show permission is hereby granted i'm a maker you guys all might also like my youtube channel let me know if you need anything else formulation does this thing function like a martyr / or does it just look like them now it's just like a little metal model oh I want it to be a full-on Robert I know that would be pretty cool I mean I bet you could find a kit that you could maybe an RC kit for a rover because a lot of ruin NASA should make those if they're not already making a great way to raise money for the space bar over by it I want that so Harry thank you for sending your picture that was amazing yeah if you want to be our photog refer of the day like Harry all you gotta do is send your photo to us using these things sina.com yeah make sure you tell us uh what device you took it on give us permission to use it on the show and tell us a little story also be sure to give us the pronunciation of your name yes which Tory did yeah I did he gave us the procedure thanks good Harry good job Harry also find us on social media arava shockshare the show give the gift of tomorrow daily to somebody you like or hate depending on how you feel about us yeah tomorrow daily com is the easiest way to share it thank you again to Steve Wozniak and the whole Silicon Valley comic-con crew for hanging out with us this week I having us having us over for an interview and that is it for this week's show will be back actually Jeff will not be back on Monday GDC next week I'll be under loans ease for three short days and then on Thursday Jeff will be back for the longship on thursday i'm going to come back with stories of VR there's so much vrg you see this year it's crazy we're gonna have it just will do a whole segment about Jeff's GDC Xperia I'm very excited I'll tell everybody all about it if you have questions use hashtag hey TD and send your questions over to Jeff love it yeah yeah well until next time Egon humans hi guys you
We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.