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good morning on Thursday October 20th it's time for episode 127 of the 359 podcast with Roger Chang and Joanie's soles Minh good morning everybody thank you for joining us morning happy Thursday I know weeks of almost all over its I'm gonna make a supercut of you going happy Thursday the weeks almost over no 827 versions and I would be amused by every version I amuse myself careful my wife says the exact same thing all right well yeah happy Thursday it's it's great that you've got another busy show unfortunately when unfortunately we're not gonna be talking about Google or Samsung or Apple fortunately refreshing yeah change a pace give it time to talk we got a lot of that out of the way yesterday yeah leave that in the past yes for one day she has watched a movie yeah my voice is sore from screaming at the TV really I just felt like more the same to me I only got through two beers versus the three to four beers that I have drunk previous debates so that's probably a good litmus test for it's called the how energy rating my wife and I were watching them on different YouTube streamed and their way out of sync they're coming like did you hear we said of like what question she was pumping all right and that's it on the promise sorry about that we're not talking about politics at all anymore instead we'll be talking about Tesla pushing its self-driving Hardware we're gonna talk about then in new Nintendo switch that's a new video game console and lastly we'll talk about let go let go the Chinese company that you probably never heard of but maybe will in the next couple weeks months we'll see as always if you vent any questions about these topics leave it in the comment section Brian our producer will wrap the best and we will answer them we'll try our best to answer them right let's let's do it alright let's start this podcast in three two welcome to the 359 when we talk about the top tech news of the day no they're crap you want to throw it I'm Roger Chang and I'm Joanie Sussman the self-driving cars are almost here Tesla said yesterday that we'll make a new suite of self-driving Hardware standard for all new models starting in 2018 so that puts a company in a clear path for a true autonomous vehicles so John are you are you ready for our self-driving driverless cars to come pick you up and take you around I mean who doesn't want a driverless car to pick you up to drop you off at your office men park itself that's what the video they released the other day kind of showed this this blissful future but the thing that's holding it back is the fact that a Tesla itself said that even though the hardware is going to be in all the cars it's producing from now on here on out you won't be able to use it right right right who knows how long it could be unlocked later on via some sort of software update right because I have to do a lot like millions of miles of road testing and we're also everybody Ford Google Tesla doesn't matter who everybody that's making these cars is waiting for regulatory yeah definitely and there are still a lot of concern out there right there was a incident earlier this year in Florida the fatality that involved auto pilot yes so there have been concerns definitely definitely and so I don't know like I'm definitely ready for that just off from car I'm I hate traveling traffic so and with the fatality kind of goes to show so many people are killed in vehicles yep every single day and it's natural to be wary of a new technology but the whole reason that a lot of Google for example is pursuing self-driving cars is because it can be revolutionary to safety if yes right yes taking out that you exactly at every car on the road is a self-driving car or uses you know AI or whatever our time is driving it is definitely a lot more safe and it's yeah that's the sort of dream but I don't know we'll see see now I'll be stuck on the Li e in traffic grumbling and just being annoyed as a biker I'll be glad that there won't be road rage e drivers yelling at me true if it would be better if those cars can actually talk to your bike you can start by going oh oh yeah car automatically swerve away oh yeah no we're getting doored that would be amazing that would help change my bio for Cena though there you go all right next up is the Nintendo switch it is the the new game console from from Nintendo unveiled today and it's it looks interesting I'm not really sure what to make of it it looks like it's several products in one it's a handheld device a convertible tablet it's got these detachable controllers and it and it's also the fault console home console to the Wii U so it's both portable and what do you think well I'm gaming isn't my forte but it seems like it's a refreshing concept at least did you just say that about it it's different and new yeah and you know when the original we came out that was new that was very different and came a huge hit the Wii U was also very different with this tablet thing that came with what the system that was not so successful and it's a little weird to me I'm looking at the concept video now and it's it's strange I don't know if I'd want another tablet in the house I mean it's not it's not a full-fledged tablet for sure it's definitely more of a game controller but I don't know this is Nintendo's away I guess of trying to go mobile yeah yeah alright lastly let go like oh Joan Derek Harker and and I spent the last week trying to figure out what makes this company tick basically the Chinese version of Apple Samsung Netflix Tesla and caramel caramel picture all bundled into one and they had this huge splashy two-hour event to unveil a couple of products the key things a huge 85 inch TV for five thousand dollars at a premium phone for $400 and these are pretty pretty eye-opening prices for them I think or high-end devices something are you interested they're not the kind of devices that are gonna make me switch from what I already have right partly because I don't have as a US consumer my familiar with let you go it was purely through having to cover it as a journalist I'm not I don't have the affiliation with the brand enough to be like oh yeah I know them I can trust them I'll I'll drop five thousand dollars on the website yeah yeah right I mean that's I think the biggest challenge with this company there they're huge in China they're they're big sort of entertainment companies well streaming streaming video streaming content they have they will be launching streaming service here in the US to pair with these devices but I don't know if that's gonna be enough I'll say for more about these stories check us out and seen it I'm Roger Cheng I'm Joni Salzmann financial sting you said this is Nintendo's way of getting into mobile and you realize that they've had the game boy since 1980 it's like a full fledge then today it sounds like Tiger Electronics there is the game and watch well it's I mean my arm is it's the full console experience on mobile I what I'm curious about with this new Nintendo concept is are they going to discontinue 3ds 2ds support or will they okay maybe use the wrong word but will they'll be another strictly mobile yeah yeah system a launch to pair with this or is just like no Nintendo's like this here's the thing here's your Nintendo that would be bold if this were like the the one thing that's our rule them all but yeah I don't know the Diaz franchise there are actual portable gaming franchises like right there's an actor separate version little portable game franchise ip's it's way more successful than there are home consoles so it's just kind of hard for me to see them giving up on that it's just such a cash cow for them yeah it's just a thought that kind of popped into my head as soon as I saw this this morning so we have a question so what do you think of that court in Germany this had to stop using auto pilots oh yes right there that they've ruled that that Tesla can't use the term autopilot in existing in the existing cars though and why is that basically I think it's just it over States the claim that it's actually autopilot that it's driving by itself that's that's the concern that they're good yeah and I think that's that's for the status that it's at right now yes exactly like it's not really autopilot I mean it's cool name for it but it semantics yeah I mean I think it over States the the capabilities of the car fair enough that's more of a marketing case yeah yeah yeah yeah it's your magic does not like buzzwords they're more straight ladies are pretty serious serious Bunch here's a funny thought will SpaceX ship be self-driving ah is a bold thought you know I feel almost I wouldn't I wouldn't rule out anything from him yeah no kidding see looking for more are you guys gonna try the Nintendo we were talking a little bit about gaming before we come in here I'd like to try it out for sure I haven't I mean I'm saying the last console Nintendo console I had was the n64 well Pokemon go could have some sort of element to switch I don't know well kind of book one goes kind of died out but it went no it's a different developer maybe they could bring it in-house and I'm that's actually a pretty interesting application to it but yeah I don't know Parvez I don't know what the actual specs are for this a bit like does it have GPS isn't has its own location tracking or a or is it just a portable gaming system like a DS right I don't know that's a lot under one hood though interesting to see where it's going they got to give it to Nintendo for for innovation though it is unique yeah it's really unique in a landscape that doesn't have a lot of unique yeah we always talk about this issue or we're always complaining about the fact that there's a little innovation going on there's there few companies trying different things the one like a company does try something different really god it's too weird what do self-driving cars do when they can't connect to the server for instructions what is the fail set crash come on no that's the big question I think that's why a lot of people are fearful of this is like I mean the cognitive 'ti has to be perfect that's to be very low latency like that has to be there can't be any lag between the car talking to the network and vice versa I mean I imagine the car itself has to have a little smart to kind of run on its own it doesn't even necessarily need to connect to a server all the time it'll have to use you know the cameras its own internal processor that's in the car everything's kind of local as sort of failsafe they couldn't it couldn't 100% connect and the things that Tesla said that the new hardware includes is a real souped up processor like 40 times yeah right now so feasibly what that means is that a car can do fine just on its own right got inside its own it's got a nice so that they're bringing us there they're announcing this or telling their customers essentially their future proofing themselves except for the future proofing but people that already like shelled over those oh yeah sorry for those who have been feature model are you proving themselves folks now or just sort of like oh you'll never have a real auto pilot no do you need a driver's license to operate an autopilot that's where I gets the regulatory questions come into play yeah because is like a ten year old kid get into a car and drive it somewhere that's what regulators have to decide yeah yeah they're still a big debate about that so if there's ever any question if that system fails I think they'd have to vote in favor of like no you still have to be able to operate this machine be legally registered exact Sheen they've all makers have talked about the several stages and that sort of that middle stage where it can drive by itself but there's uh there's control for you to take over or whatever and you have to sit in the absolutely but there's a good leader stage that everyone talked about words like you sit in the back and use your shot you just hang out and the or you just you sit in the front seat but it's facing backwards and you're like sleeping or something I wouldn't trust that it'll happen just it's gonna take a long a long time the Jetsons will get here yeah The Jetsons didn't even have autopilot do you think Tesla might start their own ride-sharing company out of this oh that's an interesting question that's speaking of why eco I mean they're so they've also pushed the self-driving car and one of the models that they talked about was a potential ride-sharing deal they're also a professor in Faraday future which is also another self-driving electric car company startup and they've definitely talked about ride-sharing as a potential I mean it makes sense right yeah not everyone can afford a self-driving car but they wouldn't partner that out to lift or somebody I mean uber is already doing it okay lyft is working with Ford oh yeah so if they were gonna partner with somebody those are the two ones that you would partner with and they're already either doing their own thing or snatched up but that's not to say that lift wouldn't partner with Sonny Tesla wanted a partner was left okay okay okay yes oh yeah yeah it's it's sounding like we've gotten to that point where we have so many distracted drivers and instead of like saying shut down your damn phones stop playing candy crush when you're driving we have a sale just gonna make robot cars killing yourselves we're not going to give up our phones it's kind of pathetic though come on like I enjoy that kind of brings up an interesting concept with the self-driving car idea like you don't we're not going to give up our phones there's a lot of people that don't want to give up they're just hearing wheels oh yeah I mean day mundane getting to work getting home that's stuff that almost everybody's like get it out of my life yeah there's some car driving especially in America I mean I love my old road trip so that's one of the things I missed the most after I mother Kitty's had to get rid of my car that point you could rent a car or true but I mean like a couple weekends ago I had to go to a wedding so I drove about a thousand miles all over the state and it was just fantastic it was cathartic it was therapeutic and I don't want a robot taking that away from me not that it's gonna be mandated I don't foresee that but I like your car has to have this feature in it and be opt-in type situation but it's like I would never in terms of consumer appeal mm-hm for sure absolutely yeah yeah it's interesting though here's another security question does Tesla have encryption on the car what happens when people start hacking your car I'm sure they're into the late I'm sure the processor definitely has some level encryption I mean that that was sort of a headline went from last year I think it was Jeep that got hacked but it was not self-driving car but it was just a smart car that got hacked I think there's still a lot of work that needs to be done with automakers thinking about security and just embedding that into the systems in ho' not just self-driving and smart cars but yeah I can't speak specifically with Tesla's own terms of what their security measures are someone in the chats bringing up things like you know ships and planes they have large elements of yes self automation but it's like there's there's not a lot of traffic in the sky it's different it's very different still looking around for different you know where you're driving right like if you're on the freeway or fare out like in the countryside driving autopilot works perfect if you're in New York City you're pretty much dead so yeah it's just a lot of its context of where you're driving to very true and one more thing about the how is it aleko Iko Iko yeah so I'm a little lost on it myself I'm not seeing a lot about the chat regarding it but so okay what the hell is it so it just sounds like own big conglomerate it's a gigantic company in China it is a conglomerate in the sense it's different than the conglomerate because usually what that means it's like one company gets really big and they start buying up all these other little things become a gigantic like monstrosity or behemoth or whatever you wanna call it isn't like oh no let go started as basically like a Netflix or YouTube and became a gigantic entertainment online video platform and from there it expanded into making films so it's the third biggest film producer in China just like Disney would be here and that upcoming movie the Great Wall Matt Damon I thought that was I'm from I'll see myself out oh no we were supposed to not talk about politics I didn't say anything about politics about a wall okay all right and then and then from there they've moved into devices and like cloud yeah but it's a weird thing to bring over to an uninitiated US audience because what you have is this Chinese company they are unfamiliar with and you're like wooly what is it just your afterlife yeah tell me it sounds like movies they make cars they make bikes it sounds kind of redundant like we already have all of this and that - mark what they're trying to fight it's a perception that you know Chinese companies make cheap products which they're not really helping themselves cuz their products are cheap but they're like nice I guess and but the thing is they're like one of many Chinese companies bringing out phones that are affordable or TVs are affordable sure and they don't have that you have to buy them through their own site so then have any actual distribution beyond the ylim all love something hard leshawna yes so that I mean that that's also the problem like beyond the fact that no one's ever heard of them that you came in going you can go like a Best Buy and see if you can get a Verizon store and check out the phone it just you have to go to the site and they're quite stressed yes a unseen by this bias product that's like five thousand dollar product all right I think that's probably a good place to leave it off all right we'll be back tomorrow where we'll talk about no way to cut off my joke sorry I just will be be we'll be back tomorrow to talk about people hacking into my self-driving car and changing the radio station to all smash mouths and the forthcoming era of Robo road rage Wow okay I'm sorry about that that was a good joke yeah well thanks sorry - all right if you liked anything you saw her here check this out on CNET our podcast is available on iTunes tuning stitcher SoundCloud Feedburner and google play music again good at that yeah I had some practice 527 times alright have a good week well I'll see you Monday