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The 404 - 1,578: Too Many Cooks, more on Amazon Echo, Facebook news feed changes

2014-11-07
Oh hey what's up everybody happy friday is friday november 7 2014 i'm jeff bakalar welcome to the 404 show i'm joined by Bridget Carey once again I'm back Armenia is over on the board howdy are you doing on the board good on the boy on the boy i got this friggin bored here uh welcome to the show everyone so uh I as I is he's still very sick he's a very sick man small bring up some soup I hope so little little alka-seltzer help the tricks I hope his girlfriend made uh it was able to provide some chicken soup relief for him I don't know he i talked him online he seems like he's in good spirits hopefully he'll be back monday and we can get back in the swing of things so our today's kinda like a weird news day there's not a lot of stuff going on it's sort of like the Amazon echo hangover a little bit that happens on Friday sometimes right i love i love that sometimes that no like news is like man I got mom picking a three-day weekend don't care to do anything on on Friday and we like that so we're going to keep things a little short today uh but first thing I do want to do is get a little back into Amazon echo we talked about it yesterday with dan graziano and I and I talked about it this morning on CBS n and I'm like come you know my first major thing is to like make fun of this thing because I just think I i think new ideas are stupid i know it sounds terrible i was excited when i first heard you were excited see I guess I'm I get more hyper geeky in this kind of case when it's a totally new type of product right so what what makes you enthusiastic / optimistic excited about it okay the fact that I saw it as the more useful interpretation of a Serie device where I don't have to take my phone out and hold the button which is great for asking directions somewhere or but but this is more something you just sit in the home and you can talk to but it's gotta be in one room yeah you're not gonna I guess move it around a lot you're not in the video and we made fun of this yesterday they have it every room in their bathroom it's in their bedroom it's everywhere in the basement like hearing it around with you like like a lovetoy there's no rechargeable battery so you're clearly just unplugging it and plugging it back in mm-hmm all right regardless of all that my big thing that I was talking about today's like look they are not in the business of giving you serious information all right they don't care to help you define words right this Pringles can thing is gonna be uh an intermediary for you to buy junk from amazon oh yeah like I'm out of this we add that to your shopping cart right let me help you let me help you buy it or I imagine if it takes another couple steps up and i can buy a movie from it or something else the right now I'm sure they can kind of merge the streams and the stream cross the streams so that's the thing and like you know there's a reason they're giving it out to Prime people for 99 bucks is a prime person and maybe this is just like a demographic but it is my belief that a prime person doesn't look at a hundred dollars and balk at it I think they see a hundred a hundred bucks now like all right yeah that's fine a prime person sees a discount oh it was 200 yeah yeah I kill ya Ben Hunter's 200 you are totally right right and look and I and I think like there is some sort of core prime fanboy out there that's like I'm amazon they have a fire phone and they have like one of the ten people with that thing and they're into it they're like oh it's it its request by invitation I feel like if you have a fire phone you got an invitation for this thing probably just because they're like okay you're on board with us yet whatever it is we're doing here you're on board big spenders on board those big spenders right so yeah I don't know I guess that's really it but you an update today you're covering new details yeah there's a couple new things I figured out by you know reaching out to them it people wondered because it implied in the video if you could say more than just Alexa right words well yeah yeah the magic word to make it start recording your audio right um or send your question along I sure you can also call it amazon brand in the future they will add more wake words more more activation words but I guess that's handy if you don't want to stay a lexer if you know or someone in your family is named alexa that's a problem what is your conflict and let people are also talking about the security the creepiness cuz it's always recording to be able is listening yeah it's always listening to be able to hear the right I'll i connect right so sort of paranoia mm-hmm the the details on that are when it does hear that word Alexa or Amazon it will send that audio to the cloud and also a few seconds before so it is recording right so it's like caching get a little bit right a little bit a little bit of a backup and I don't like that now also um if you want you can have a noise come on so you know when it is sending your audio along I know you yessir your little little comfort to know like with notification you can turn it off and only talk to it by pressing a button on top great so that way you you have more control than it really is Siri right yeah then it is Siri and you can go into amazon's archive to hear everything you've ever asked and delete things that are weird to you maybe or we'll never know if they're fully deleted right or or go in and help it learn by saying you don't know this word this is what it means you can watch if I feat feedback there you know I i get the paranoid thing and it's something we're always talking about but this is a generation of people and these paranoia people are the same people that walk around with a laptop with a camera facing them hold a phone with a camera facing them you know at least like with kinect i get it you know connect is basically watching everyone you know like masturbate and just like sit in their pajamas in front of the TV and just think about what connects sees I know oh my god not I'm not I'm not talking about me personally I'm talking about what it must see that we're all speaking in generalities yeah like what that connect xbox one must see if those eyes could talk oh my god it'd be like a xxx movie yeah so now people think take that idea to audio oh my about the conversations you can turn the microphone off to right that's comforting okay I think they learn I think we've all learned or every company's learn their lesson from the whole xbox kinect situation to be able to turn it all right just how does offer the option no one's really gonna check it it's not that much different from the okay or the ok Google command that on some am on some android phones they're always listening right yeah i actually just click the box that says always listen for it how's that working out i don't know i don't know if i have it i don't know if it will work when it's sleeping ok Google no I think I have to turn it on hold on ok Google oh yeah ok I nevermind ok I feel I'm polite I'm ploy don't like okay I'm polite that's kinda guy I think it just searched ok nevermind ah alright we'll shift gears a little bit to facebook mmm today facebook announced more powerful controls over your newsfeed it was that all about alright so you have a little more say into who shows up on your newsfeed because i think we all kind of feel if we don't have much control over why some friends are always showing up and not others it's because of what your liking it's because of what you're clicking on it's trying to give you more of the same but now there's new options for your newsfeed to see the top people or pages that have been in your newsfeed the most hmm and you can sort them so you can pull them one down or show less of one so you have a little more control over going well I don't care about uncle Bert so much yeah please get him off my feet house taking photos of bird it's like freaking me out yeah so you could have a liver control also while you're scrolling on your phone if there's something you don't want to see anymore there's an arrow on top that you can click it's like a downward pointing arrow it's a drop-down menu to be able to unfollow someone faster so now there's quicker ways to unfollow people just good and I think there was some confusion over on following is that unfriending they're hoping to clear that up by just having more menus of going hey these are the people you unfollowed you want to unfollow them right so if you see a menu you get it more I would love a temporary mute yeah just like a week mute like you are r during this political season or whatever it is totally you need to just take it down a notch and I'm gonna hush you that would be nice because you don't want to forget about a nun father thinks I would like to unfollow or just a time in that in the two months leading up to the marathon that Nick is training for I don't need to hear every 10 minutes that he ran a better mile it's like I get a dude you're better shape than all of us and you're really great at running long distances I just don't hear about it for the next two months I'm with you right yes oh those those marathon what else who else I don't have healthy friends I don't around myself I make me sad pig just make me said he's marathon people who else ru uuu Spartan Race people just making us everyone else look bad like I crawled through the mud over barbed wire and flaming coals yes what did you do know they could be call a duty good for you witness those things I have no envy for them on my good good go yeah go ahead kill yourself at the waiver you have to sign again laughter you did yeah I any way too quick more quickly unfollow someone like that I am all for speaking of facebook uh I came across the story and i found it uh kind of fascinating there's this comedian dan Wilbur ok and apparently a while ago he he was he was submitting a bunch of jokes to Reader's Digest we all know what readers digest this right said oh man I don't get it either but I get it physically I understand it I just don't receive it physically right so um anyway a while ago he sent them jokes and they didn't you know readers digest is like no thanks we don't we don't want any of these but recently readers digest published a joke he wrote on Twitter this guy Dan will burn you can follow him at Dan Wilbur I believe is his handle uh and they published his his joke they give him credit they gave him a little @ symbol and his handle and they're like oh that's this guy so he had he had tried to get paid for it before and now they're basically lifting his joke and not giving them enough due diligence and and or more money like you know he says at the time i was submitting these jokes i wasn't a quote unquote established committee but now he says it's what he does for a living so he wrote this long letter to Reader's Digest explaining the situation and he basically said the what you could do is tell me you're going to use my joke and I don't know maybe send me a check for twenty-five dollars and ask how I'd like to be credited well lo and behold guess what arrived in the mail for mr. Wilbur a $25 check from readers doctor there it is in all of its glory you earned it Dan is that awesome it is good that it worked out that way of course now he's like wonder if he should ask more but yeah well it's funny because my bad five bucks per tweet that's pretty good that embed at all any actually headlined his little face book post with readers digest will pay you for your tweets now so I thought that was a cute little story it is a funny line we're walking when when you publish something for the world to see yeah and someone else feels that they want to share that in a publication right so what I want to know is and this is an example where I mean Reader's Digest is a for-profit publication right they're not doing like charity work here this this is this ain't no shopper free newsletter exactly so the fact that they thought they could just lift that I mean but maybe that's the rules like I don't really know the legality of the whole thing you know you see people's tweets being lifted and quoted and you could embed them in stories and it's like is that does that have monetary value attached to the person who tweeted it they're just understanding that well I'm giving you more attention for your tweet right of God otherwise which you gave away for free to begin with but is it like is it the same thing as saying like it's just news so I can get away with using it because I'm writing up sometimes story sometimes yes you know times it is newsworthy the topic but if it comes out of the blue then it becomes well is it newsworthy because of the celebrity involved right like if Steve Martin says something really funny we always like oh you see what do you sit on Twitter right just being the person alone makes it newsworthy then you get to that third category of funny things I found randomly on Twitter right and then you have to start going well you know he'd maybe he wants more followers out of this you know he did give it away so but if it was on Facebook that's a whole different game two because on facebook you have to have friends to be able to if it's not public right you know if it was private then you gotta be your more sticky situation to share something that wasn't public totally I think there's still so much of a gray area when it comes to property and ownership on social media because you look at sites like BuzzFeed it seems like all BuzzFeed is is just the regurgitation of popular tweets and lists and I to spawn grabs of of Instagram photos yeah I mean I don't mean to be negative but there is a lot just Randall they make a crap all the time and it's the basis of their business right yeah i mean it's it's your you're not defaming and that's what they do uh they they pretty much they take reddit threads and sort of like picturised them and and and they they find the best pictures in a reddit thread and make that a story and I mean look that's what the internet is now yeah you know you can't always use clips from a television show but now we're using killing gifts of revision is that okay and and that is a silly you version that's low quality and baby you know you can kind of go down the line right to be fair uh they a lot of these places are now acknowledging sources and they're doing like the courtesy title or whatever you want to call it when you're you know when you sort of take video in in and do stuff like that but I you know I wonder like like if I if it ok you tweet out something about Samsung right and you're like let's just you know hypothetically this Samsung new TV is it the best thing that's ever happened to me right and Samsung wants to use that in an ad well do they pay you do they I mean and then you have to worry about like the editorial sort of side of things and Roses I think it is not a clear situation with Samsung is a good example they've done that in their in their commercials totally they pull people's tweets that said you know I think this is just like the iphone you know right where whatever maybe money's gotta be change exchanging hands there's no way there's no way no no all it takes is an agreement and a little fun to think I'm gonna be famous sure I'll give it away oh so old someone's butt you're saying someone would still hacking I think lawyers are being a little careful these days and and definitely reaching out first before really yes and I think people are releasing a tweet love to talk to like a social media lawyer who's the first person with that title there's a couple like there's gotta be right there they're in San Francisco I bet they just they take calls all day about can we use this to we can we not you see movie trailers uh quick TV bumpers better that our book ended with you know someone's tweet because all the critics gave it a bedroom all that I was gonna say well when you do see that odds are the film sucks because no one with any real credibility was the scariest thing ever yeah it's just like says Joey fatone's now 133like all right well if he likes this movie maybe I will anyway I thought that was a little story okay we're gonna finish things I was something very weird but it's not just me okay that's into this but there's something going okay there's something on Twitter right now that's been trending all morning it's called too many cooks I got the 40 Ford Twitter pulled off it too many cooks you see it right here I'm circling it with my mouse pointer too many cooks it's been there all day what the hell is too many cooks everyone wants to know what it is well this morning in the lab where we're at while the construction finishes we gathered round the computer and watched what too many cooks is and it's about it's an 11 minute video that aired on adult swim I believe last night or the night before created by um I believe one of the creators of their show squidbillies okay have you heard of squeeze yeah yeah like the white trash globs of goo hmm it's like the best way to take a description right is that I think that's fair not on that a frequent viewer but I got exactly I liked I'll i believe it's co-created was this guy casper kelly and is that his name i don't want to screw that up and dave willis who's one of the co-creators as well yes Casper Kelly is his name and dave willis the co-created Squidbillies and they also did another uh um show on adult swim called uh some something about welcome to hell or you're here in hell it's about like a customer service representative who's from hell your pretty face is going to hell is what the show's called uh really weird stuff if you ever watch adult swim you know it's weird it's very strange are the most mainstream thing to come out of there is probably aqua teen hunger force which is you are car or a Space Ghost oh my god how can forget about space goes my personal favor Harvey Birdman you know yeah where's Burton yeah the the brac show again don't let like don't forget adult swim has been around for like 15 years and they've been doing the same thing for 15 years and it's owned by Turner and you know the shows are only like 11 minutes metalocalypse herschel on on on the tilt when larger squad too don't they stop loading Reuters for all my god Lourdes was fantastic i love that show yeah and it's perfect for late night cuz it is that weird humor right absolutely so there's amazing new cell phone and there's a new show black Jesus that's out of control too what's that what is robot chicken is oh my god yeah but yeah so you know everyone knows me anyway every now and then they do these sort of one-offs because there's really no rules on adult swim they kind of just do whatever and if you know Tim and Eric are they kind of get car wash do whatever else yeah anyway last uh one night this week this video aired and I'm playing it without audio here just you can sort of see what's going on it's this very strange 11 minute video that's making fun of like 90s intro credit sitcom sort of gags right so it's all it is is just like constantly constantly over and over it's called too many cooks and they have this you know that full house Family Matters sort of vibe so it's just utica ok Bridget laughs now but things get weird ok because first off that the show never starts ok it's just this they keep introducing characters on a show that really is never ends for 11 minutes a long time for 11 minutes but then and I'm not going to ruin it but things start to get crazy and within these opening credits there's like a maniac loose and I'm obviously gonna link to in the show notes I love how they had the twins he's always like two twins and they play one character twins if they wanted they don't want to have a you know like Mars in it don't forget Martha character it's crazy you've never seen the right too many cooks get it you've never seen anything like this before it's I i almost want to use the word brilliant because where it goes and how crazy and and meta and just completely over-the-top this thing spirals out of they just go from settings the settings that they make no sense and they keep introducing a show that's not real oh my god it's all a big gag it goes on for 11 minutes and I don't know I and I said it to you before you know this is like the funniest thing I've seen in a very long time is it it's creative as there's super cheesy music here Oh Axl here you go making out with other people just like the elephant represent Lee right in the way and that's Roseanne yeah exactly perfect and you're like oh is this over oh no we're still going huh and you realize they're all still at the same table yeah they switch bridges it's crazy there's a lot of there's a ton of like great uh camera uh sort of tricks uh and they take that cheesy 90s aesthetic and they just go nuts with it they kick their cylinder you I can't stop watching cuz it's amazing and then it's trending for a reason usually crap trends yeah I i find that usually crap trends others guys get arrested he smiles for camera too because he's part of them now we're in the cop shows yeah it's insane okay so there's the killer oh yeah it gets crazy now here's where we're getting here okay what there's a coat who gets credit I'm not even gonna get in there's a there's a cartoon sequence that we have to deal with that it's just crazy yeah I joke I want to count fitness good the guy's name was cook on a shirt it's amazing okay it's just amazing GI joe now it's yeah it's in there he is he's back at the killers in the cartoon now too now that i'm watching all this i really like it it's amazing i thought you guys were just watching like a like one of those music videos those fake music videos right I didn't know it was like a whole opening sequences Hillary you see what they're doing here with this bird and the white in the building over and over again they're just doing it over and over again I think I cuz they can because you're allowed to do what you want I don't swim and it's like the last bastion of creativity we have on regular televisions what and the promise you'll never be able to have that this this kind of comedy again because they're gonna overdo it so much well that's the beauty and now it's like a snouts like a spanish-language soap opera yeah you know and and now this guy's just killing everyone and it starts to get intense and I'm not gonna ruin the whole thing because you guys have this you guys have to check it out done with it I was here again that was only about four minutes and 30 seconds into it hilarious uh it's it's the greatest thing I've seen in a very long time and I am just I'm in a lot of admiration now now I have to make someone watch it without explaining what it is and just watch the reactions you know now it's gonna be like it's gonna become part of an acular like are you gonna too many cooks that or what you know you think that's got too many cooks and madara that's awesome they did a great job so congrats to these two fine people and in the right of director Casper Kelly it's good stuff I love it so that's just what I wanted to share with people Lola I think it's that is a delightful thing to share for the week right what a way to end the week yeah great friday share that thank you re i like great friday a new segment one now so we'll link to that in the show notes today's the last day to enter the back to the future contests so hope you entered that and good luck to everyone who did um kind of freaking out about our xbox one winner hasn't written me back and he's got like 24 hours left or some other some other lucky lucky year dude will win it yeah I feel bad for this guy so I mean I can't bend the rules this is what has to happen check your email check your email and it's like it's not an AOL email it's like a regular commonly used domain I don't got a hotmail yahoo not like one that's just gonna like float away into the ether anyway uh next week we're gonna start the call of duty bundle so stay tuned for rules on that and that's it Bridget Carey ladies and gentleman thank you so much for being here such a pleasure thanks to everyone for checking out the show this week I believe I as is back on Monday we'll see how he's feeling check out seen it update every single day that's right all right and and you're you're on CBS n as well yeah we're gonna be on every once in a while so I think my next time up might be Tuesday check it out its CBS n dot cbsnews.com alright and that's it for us go by the cnet magazine will see you guys on Monday I'm Jeff Bakalar I'm pretty I carry a Mario nuñez this has been the 404 show high tech lowbrow see you next time
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